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88ESR
07-05-10, 06:15 PM
Final scrappage figures are in and I believe they are talking aboutt 375,000ish cars destroyed..

Does anyone know of a database (government or otherwise) containing the details of those trashed?

Or is it all top secret??

Anyway, most probably still exist, lying in disused airfields...

Andy
07-05-10, 06:16 PM
374,000 novas

Lee
07-05-10, 06:16 PM
Hopefully most of them were french :)

Bubba
07-05-10, 06:17 PM
ive hear rumors of a few lotus carltons being done :(

wwmnw
07-05-10, 06:17 PM
Hopefully most of them were french :)

French Jap and Korean lets hope.

craig green
07-05-10, 06:20 PM
who cares! I know for about 4 Novas that entered out local yards through the scheme. 1 shell lives [ahem] on & they all donated parts except engines & the shell (the rules).

88ESR
07-05-10, 06:23 PM
ive hear rumors of a few lotus carltons being done :(

I also heard of a Lotus Carlton...

craig green
07-05-10, 06:47 PM
Mustve been a rotter, anyone would know the parts are worth strong money.

Saloony
07-05-10, 06:53 PM
My cousin is salvage manager at silverlake, they has a 1969 Ford T-bird in on scrapage, totally stunning example. Same again with a Citroen DS, some frenchy came over and paid £1600 for the interior!!

burgo
07-05-10, 06:55 PM
bedford aerodrome near me is used as a storage for them all

88ESR
07-05-10, 07:16 PM
bedford aerodrome near me is used as a storage for them all

Anything remotely ‘Nova Sportish‘ worth going over the fence for then?

You know, to assist a foundling More Door 5port project to get off the ground lol...

burgo
07-05-10, 07:17 PM
wouldnt have a clue, just saw a bit in ppc magazine about it

Sloth
07-05-10, 07:20 PM
according to kia, they did a minor, a austin a40 and a mint triumph 2000 roadster from 53. i did hear of a dealer in wales killing a cav turbo...

88ESR
07-05-10, 07:27 PM
So has anyone heard of a database or link to one where we can see the whole story?

Bubba
07-05-10, 08:22 PM
im sure there was a thread on here somewhere about a bmw dealer who refused to take a car as scrappage as it was a proper classic something

Jack
07-05-10, 08:35 PM
I suspect a lot of these are old wives tales. For a start, anyone working in a dealer who knows the value of a Lotus Carlton would (should) offer the owner a private cash sale of, say £2500, then resell the vehicle for an instant £10k+ profit. Same goes for any obvious classic tbh.

Anyway, its simply a load of old cobblers that pushes more money out of UK.plc and gets more people into debt. Oh wait, I forgot, mountainous personal debt is good for "the economy". Well fcuk the economy, maybe this country should consider actually making things again instead of trying to live off the interest payments on young kev's Corsa VXR which he'll never repay in full.

Plus there's the complete joke of newer cars being more green than old cars. Plus all the servicing costs if you decide to try and keep up on FDSH to retain value. Plus the fact a car loses about 25% of its value as soon as its driven off the forecourt.

/rant.

NovaLad
07-05-10, 08:42 PM
im sure there was a thread on here somewhere about a bmw dealer who refused to take a car as scrappage as it was a proper classic something
I don't remember this... try and find the link.

Stuart
07-05-10, 08:47 PM
Thurlouh (spelling) airfield has piccies of the cars on there... Rather a lot that the govt could easily sell back to us lot lol

Spudly
07-05-10, 08:48 PM
im sure there was a thread on here somewhere about a bmw dealer who refused to take a car as scrappage as it was a proper classic something


Nah bubba it was the one where they weighed in a 1949 triumph mayflower in better than new condition, full mot and it just got squished in favour of some new fly by wire leather seat playstation affair of a car, its crime, nothing, other than purely being old:cry:

burgo
07-05-10, 08:49 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1263548/Now-did-say-left-car-The-28m-backlog-perfectly-driveable-vehicles-waiting-SCRAPPED.html

this one stu?

MK999
07-05-10, 08:49 PM
im sure there was a thread on here somewhere about a bmw dealer who refused to take a car as scrappage as it was a proper classic something

They refused to sell it to someone as it was in on scrappage, he tried some other legal method iirc and they got back to him saying it was already crushed.

Spudly
07-05-10, 08:50 PM
Too slow Mark :p

John
07-05-10, 08:53 PM
The dealership where i work scrapped a mint morris minor, mgb, mini traveller, porsche 928s v8 (iirc) Datsun sunny, Mint old granada and a few more i've forgotten.

MK999
07-05-10, 08:53 PM
pff added more info on the actual scenario, I read your reply before I posted :p

Spudly
07-05-10, 08:55 PM
And got it wrong, he wrote to the head of BMW uk iirc and enquired as to saving it and by the time the guy had looked into it and replied it had already gone, although he did promise to look at possible ways of saving other vehicles of a similar ilk should anymore be traded in :p

MK999
07-05-10, 08:55 PM
pff, i'd go with slightly inaccurate over wrong lol

Spudly
07-05-10, 08:56 PM
Meh, ill let you have that one lol

Stuart
07-05-10, 09:00 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1263548/Now-did-say-left-car-The-28m-backlog-perfectly-driveable-vehicles-waiting-SCRAPPED.html

this one stu?


thats the puppy

MK999
07-05-10, 09:05 PM
There's not many cars there that look like sheds, other than the odd dented roof which I assume is from being transported there or stacked somewhere, they all look fine to keep driving! Sell them on imo, will help with the national debt (albeit it tiny in comparison scrapping good cars isn't gonna help it is it) and is far less wasteful.

Novasport
07-05-10, 09:07 PM
If there is enough of a case to save a vehicle they will. I was talking to one of the recovery guys(Who had some old 50's classic in real solid condition on the flat bed at the time) that was taking cars from our place a few months ago. He said there was a Daimler iirc that was one of very few made and the owners club got to hear of it and managed to save it.
We had a 1 owner mk2 Golf GTi & a one owner E30 with 40k on the clocks both scrapped. One of the lads stripped the Golf of everything, it went with no bumpers, lights, exterior trims or any interior apart from a crappy old seat he chucked in lol

Spudly
07-05-10, 09:10 PM
From what ive heard of places dealing with scrappage car Rich, the lad who stripped the mk2 was very lucky as most places wouldnt allow you to remove anything at all, our spot included :cry:

Bubba
07-05-10, 09:11 PM
my mate worked at a garage...a saxo came in, same as his...he SWAPPED bits over haha

dj_wudgey
07-05-10, 09:36 PM
im sure no one would do a lotus carlton? They need burning alive if they did!

Mike
07-05-10, 10:26 PM
Its quite crap the how the UK Scrappage scheme didnt work like the American one tho.....

Over the pond cars had to be ten years or older BUT if they were older then 1980 they woulnt take them in PX. (Public outcry of old skool classic muscle being crushed was partly to blame).

harry-nova
07-05-10, 10:51 PM
i got a mint 106 gti 30k on the clocks for £200 from local scrap yard only thing i wasn't aloud was the shell sold the engine and everything and made bout £700 :P

John
07-05-10, 11:06 PM
im sure no one would do a lotus carlton? They need burning alive if they did!

I'm sure anyone with an LC knows it's worth (ie more than 2k against a new car!) ;)

Jack
08-05-10, 12:56 AM
Its quite crap the how the UK Scrappage scheme didnt work like the American one tho.....

Over the pond cars had to be ten years or older BUT if they were older then 1980 they woulnt take them in PX. (Public outcry of old skool classic muscle being crushed was partly to blame).
That and most things pre-73 would be worth considerably more than a few thousand dollars lol