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JonBarlow
01-05-10, 06:22 PM
Hi ive just bought a bog standard 1.2 nova and im going to convert to 2.0 let

Can anyone tell me what im going to need and off what model?

and will i need to mod engine bay to make it fit?

any advice will be appreciated thanks Jon

craig green
01-05-10, 06:24 PM
you need the search function.

comptoncj
01-05-10, 06:24 PM
You started a thread about this the other day didnt you, alot of people wrote what bits were needed on there. Use the search to find that threat buddy.

MattBrown
01-05-10, 06:40 PM
Hi ive just bought a bog standard 1.2 nova and im going to convert to 2.0 let

Can anyone tell me what im going to need and off what model?

and will i need to mod engine bay to make it fit?

any advice will be appreciated thanks Jon


How many engine conversions, and cars have you built?

And how old are you?

You sound like a 17yr old, with there first car "wantin boost"


No offence, but you need to do alot of reasearch for the task in hand.

let_nova
01-05-10, 07:09 PM
How many engine conversions, and cars have you built?

And how old are you?

You sound like a 17yr old, with there first car "wantin boost"


No offence, but you need to do alot of reasearch for the task in hand.

no if he was 17 his username would bo johnborlowBOI lol

JonBarlow
01-05-10, 07:19 PM
Aint built any cars mate but i have a friend who is more than capable, sorry if i came across as a 17 year old who wants boost but i aint

And no i put an ad in parts wanted the other day to scource the parts i need

all i need to know is the basic what i need and what engine bay mods(if any) without having to do a search and go through every let related thread. thanks Jon

MattBrown
01-05-10, 07:23 PM
Aint built any cars mate but i have a friend who is more than capable, sorry if i came across as a 17 year old who wants boost but i aint

And no i put an ad in parts wanted the other day to scource the parts i need

all i need to know is the basic what i need and what engine bay mods(if any) without having to do a search and go through every let related thread. thanks Jon

Ok fella

Personally id say a c20let isnt for you.

Whats your list of fast cars you have owned?

As a c20let nova isnt the easiest to drive.

I got about 300ft and switched it off shakinglol

John
01-05-10, 07:31 PM
You sound like a 17yr old, with there first car "wantin boost"



Think you've described yourself there Matt! lol Pot calling kettle lmfao!

Nova_Tek
01-05-10, 07:36 PM
If you drive like Brian O'Connor then I'll say "I've seen the way you drive, you've got a heavy foot. You'll blow yourself to pieces"

Seriously though, LET Novas aren't scary if you drive sensibly. Drive everywhere like you're late will mean poo in pants and a smashy smashy time.

As well as the engine and gearbox, you'll need: Engine bay strengthening plates (Harry Hockley), stitch welding (best to do this whilst the plates are going in), front suspension turret plates, big block conversion mount and if you're going down the F28 gearbox route; a F28 mount kit. Suitable shafts to use the gearbox, a compatible accelerator cable.

There really is a good list of things that need uprating and stuff to buy. Go into any of the LET project threads and you'll visually see what's needed and/or done.

I for one have started a LET project so I have got like 95% of the stuff I need so you can have a look there to give you an idea. Also there is a thread in the articles section that tells you what you need to fit a big block into a Nova

Mieran
01-05-10, 07:40 PM
I got about 300ft and switched it off shaking
lol

Sloth
01-05-10, 07:41 PM
have you got 6k spare? if not dont bother.

Nova_Tek
01-05-10, 07:43 PM
I assume you mean 6k including insurance.

mowgli
01-05-10, 07:44 PM
remember, any LET engine you will find will be in need of a rebuild.. people just don't break good ones, do not just chuck the first one you find in. spend a load of hours in the projects section.

personally, i'd say to look up all of joff's stuff, he's been doing it a very long time with his let

milko96
01-05-10, 07:45 PM
Ok fella

Personally id say a c20let isnt for you.

Whats your list of fast cars you have owned?

As a c20let nova isnt the easiest to drive.

I got about 300ft and switched it off shakinglol

This comment is class... he has a 450bhp MR400 at the mo and just broke his old 580bhp Esc Cos for parts...am sure he will manage the LET.... ;)

MattBrown
01-05-10, 07:49 PM
Think you've described yourself there Matt! lol Pot calling kettle lmfao!

Seeing as im 18, and have built a fair few cars, seemling its not me


However turbo is the next project:thumb:

MattBrown
01-05-10, 07:51 PM
This comment is class... he has a 450bhp MR400 at the mo and just broke his old 580bhp Esc Cos for parts...am sure he will manage the LET.... ;)


Also many 15 year old member says they want a c20let nova.

Kinda seems odd to me.

But yeah, id say £5k will see an avrage spec one:thumb:

mowgli
01-05-10, 07:52 PM
This comment is class... he has a 450bhp MR400 at the mo and just broke his old 580bhp Esc Cos for parts...am sure he will manage the LET.... ;)

but both of those cars were sort of already built for it & there is a ready industry supplying stuff for both of them....

the 1.2 nova is not built for this sort of thing, it needs every moving component changing or modifying to run a LET properly
the shell needs stripping out & strengthening, then it needs modifying to fit the big block.

John
01-05-10, 07:52 PM
Seeing as im 18, and have built a fair few cars, seemling its not me


However turbo is the next project:thumb:

Steady on, you'll be calling yourself Matt "napalm" Brown next! lol

mowgli
01-05-10, 07:53 PM
Seeing as im 18, and have built a fair few cars, seemling its not me


However turbo is the next project:thumb:

lego doesn't count Matt.......

MattBrown
01-05-10, 07:54 PM
Steady on, you'll be calling yourself Matt "napalm" Brown next! lol

Gay Brown

Or ****ty Brown thankyou:thumb:


And meh, Im not fussed, If it takes me 10 years, then so be it.

Some of the nicest and best specced nova's have been with there daddys for 10 years plus:d

mowgli
01-05-10, 07:56 PM
with a bit of luck, matt, by this time next week, you'll be the only person called brown that we'll have to listen to

MattBrown
01-05-10, 07:57 PM
with a bit of luck, matt, by this time next week, you'll be the only person called brown that we'll have to listen to


Haha, always happy to be of service;)

Sloth
01-05-10, 07:58 PM
my 6k quote came from paul on here. ask ANY turbo owner thats had it for more than 10 mins and they have spent around that. remember you need to modify every part for this. shell, brakes, suspension, box all need modification. im guessing the o.p aint short of cash but this is different to tuning ready built performance cars. and tek, no thats not involving insurance.

Nova_Tek
01-05-10, 08:01 PM
I think it's also a case of some people over do it. Anyway, I'll be sure to add up my spend on my project :)

milko96
01-05-10, 08:01 PM
but both of those cars were sort of already built for it & there is a ready industry supplying stuff for both of them....

the 1.2 nova is not built for this sort of thing, it needs every moving component changing or modifying to run a LET properly
the shell needs stripping out & strengthening, then it needs modifying to fit the big block.

At 580bhp standard Esc Cos parts wont cut it either mate, everything was uprated on his old car. As far as I can see everything to uprate a Nova to handle LET power is available off ther shelf... jus need someone to weld the bay.

Anyway back on topic.... :)

mowgli
01-05-10, 08:01 PM
anyone who builds a let nova for much under 5k is a liar

Sloth
01-05-10, 08:06 PM
At 580bhp standard Esc Cos parts wont cut it either mate, everything was uprated on his old car. As far as I can see everything to uprate a Nova to handle LET power is available off ther shelf... jus need someone to weld the bay.

Anyway back on topic.... :)

not picking but what makes you say this?

mowgli
01-05-10, 08:08 PM
At 580bhp standard Esc Cos parts wont cut it either mate, everything was uprated on his old car. As far as I can see everything to uprate a Nova to handle LET power is available off ther shelf... jus need someone to weld the bay.

Anyway back on topic.... :)

milko, i have had a damned good look round a few let novas & i can tell you that anything off the shelf for this is only the start.. a few mount brackets & shafts are not enough to make one of these work

milko96
01-05-10, 08:08 PM
What makes you say its not available off the shelf?

I have never built one so stand to be corrected....

John
01-05-10, 08:09 PM
anyone who builds a let nova for much under 5k is a liar

Bring me 5 large, i'll put you a let in yours lol

Sloth
01-05-10, 08:10 PM
give me some time and ill add up all of it using a tv feature.

milko96
01-05-10, 08:10 PM
milko, i have had a damned good look round a few let novas & i can tell you that anything off the shelf for this is only the start.. a few mount brackets & shafts are not enough to make one of these work

Sorted, your in a great position to post up what Jon needs then...

mowgli
01-05-10, 08:19 PM
ok, a mk1 1.2 nova needs a new tank for efi. the mounts & shafts for a let/f28, a shell plating kit. shell strip modifying & stitch welding. completely renewed suspension, and i mean all components, then you have the piping, wiring & controls, plus bigger brakes & wheels/tyres, then you need to sort out the speedo, intercooler mounting, and bodywork modification, plus the cost of a new clutch, & rebuilding the engine, then the turbo will probably need work,

I would guess about 100 man hours labour
& about £2.5k of bits, then the cost of paint etc.


5 grand could easily be spent

JonBarlow
01-05-10, 08:24 PM
Wow 4 pages all ready

Im only after building a cheap toy, so have no interest in paint finish and i will be using mostly good secondhand parts to go as fast as i can as cheap as i can

so why do lets automatically need rebuilding? i find this comment strange

milko96
01-05-10, 08:25 PM
Bingo.... there ya go Jon!

Lee H
01-05-10, 08:31 PM
If you want it to be reliable you will need to fit an F28 gearbox which will add about £500 to the cost over fitting an F20 gearbox.

An engine will cost you £1000 for a good one.

I think a decent phase 2 spec one could be built for £5k depending on how cheap you got the Nova as prices are going up for decent shells now. That would include 6 speed box, bigger brakes, Vauxhall 15's, coilovers.

Sloth
01-05-10, 08:53 PM
Second hand C20LET engine, with f28 and all ancillaries £1500 – eBay
Cambelt kit (steel tensioner type) £35 – Autovaux
Gasket kit £60 – eBay
Water pump £35 – eBay
Oil pump £150 – new from Vauxhall
Coolant, 10 litres £20 – Halfords
Oil, 10w40 magnatec £30 – Halfords
Gearbox oil £10 – Halfords
Brake fluid £30 – Halfords dot 5.1
Oil filter £7 – Vauxhall
Spark plugs £40 – Bosch distributor
Beru plug leads £70 – Vauxhall
Turbo rebuild £250+ (depends on specialist, spec required, and condition)
Mount’s and shaft’s and hub’s kit £350 – eBay
F28 2wd conversion kit £70 – eBay
New front hub bearing’s £60 – motor factors
Roose hose kit (coolant, breathers, ancillary, turbo coolant pipes) - £480.17
Green cotton cone filter kit £92 – eBay
Harry Hockley strengthening kit £66
Harry Hockley Strut top plates £8
Avo coilovers, specced to suit £600
15” Alcon front brake kit £1264.02 – Harry Hockley
Full polybush kit £120 – eBay
Camber bolts £15 - Courtenay sport
Braided brake lines £43.95 – new on eBay
Bespoke exhaust system, £500 – BTB Exhausts
17” alloys, with Yokohama a048r tyres £800 – eBay
Walbro 255 fuel pump £67 – new on eBay
Labour to fit plating kit, and ns mount £300 (est.)
Paint for bay after welding £300 (est.)
Estimated time to complete to a good standard - 360 hours (est.)
This is a basic list based around a few different T.V feature cars.
If anyone can think of anything, please add it on!:thumb:

Lee H
01-05-10, 09:06 PM
Those brakes are total overkill, £50 set of Calibra turbo brakes is adequate on a Nova.

You don't need the roose hoses.

Spark plugs are £8 from Vauxhall.

I've never had to replacea set of Beru leads on about 10 engines I have owned.

Gaz coilovers are about £420 and far superior to Avo's.

No idea why you would want 17's either tbh.

mowgli
01-05-10, 09:06 PM
Wow 4 pages all ready

Im only after building a cheap toy, so have no interest in paint finish and i will be using mostly good secondhand parts to go as fast as i can as cheap as i can

so why do lets automatically need rebuilding? i find this comment strange

to be honest, they are all about 15years old, and will have been thraped, and to be even more honest, they sort of don't have a stellar reputation for reliability.......

craig green
01-05-10, 09:06 PM
so why do lets automatically need rebuilding? i find this comment strange

20 year old engines man!

Nobby
01-05-10, 09:10 PM
But yeah, id say £5k will see an avrage spec one:thumb:

bollox mine cost me about £1600 to build and that included buying the car

mowgli
01-05-10, 09:12 PM
bollox mine cost me about £1600 to build and that included buying the car

how about the replacement??? only kidding, how many hours did it take, and I know you already stuck an xe in it, so you were halfway there

Nobby
01-05-10, 09:12 PM
so why do lets automatically need rebuilding? i find this comment strange
they dont mate people said that to me but its bollox put it in if it works and runs bonus!! whay fix summat that aint broke!?!?

Nova_Tek
01-05-10, 09:13 PM
Agree. If it runs fine use it till it doesn't.

milko96
01-05-10, 09:13 PM
they dont mate people said that to me but its bollox put it in if it works and runs bonus!! whay fix summat that aint broke!?!?

Amen!

Nobby
01-05-10, 09:14 PM
how about the replacement??? only kidding, how many hours did it take, and I know you already stuck an xe in it, so you were halfway there

id say a good weekends work mate but im a engine stripper fitter so that probably helps its what a few water pipes few boost hoses connect loom plugs up shafts etc

mowgli
01-05-10, 09:15 PM
i am a bit more old school, i prefer to make sure something is in good condition before i use it.

Nobby
01-05-10, 09:16 PM
i am a bit more old school, i prefer to make sure something is in good condition before i use it.

lol mowgli old skool imo is anything that people can get there hands on baxter springs to mind!

mowgli
01-05-10, 09:18 PM
lol mowgli old skool imo is anything that people can get there hands on baxter springs to mind!

no, baxter is more old playgroup than old school

Andy
01-05-10, 09:39 PM
This thread is epic lol A lot of bullshizzle has been posted in here

JonBarlow
01-05-10, 09:43 PM
Thanks for all the input,

Nobbysnova thats what im getting at, if you go over board then you could easily do 4 to 5k, but i bet you can do it alot cheaper to

I mean cheap secondhand coilovers £150
cheap set of rims £100
Calibra turbo brakes £50
Front mount £150
Engine mounts £100
Bay strengthening kit £100
Full let conversion with f28 £1100
Fuel tank £30

Just a few cheaper options

Mike
01-05-10, 09:53 PM
You buy cheap, you get cheap. End of story.

mowgli
01-05-10, 10:00 PM
Thanks for all the input,

Nobbysnova thats what im getting at, if you go over board then you could easily do 4 to 5k, but i bet you can do it alot cheaper to

I mean cheap secondhand coilovers £150
cheap set of rims £100
Calibra turbo brakes £50
Front mount £150
Engine mounts £100
Bay strengthening kit £100
Full let conversion with f28 £1100
Fuel tank £30

Just a few cheaper options

£1780 for bits........ then pipes, intercooler, custom exhaust, labour............

it adds up.

Mike
01-05-10, 10:02 PM
IMHO the more you spend on good qaulity parts building a mediocre spec summer rag around machine the more youll save in the long run.

Unless you really enjoy fcuking around on summer evenings fixing a sack of sh1t Nova becuase you skimped on decent parts when building it in the first place.

JonBarlow
01-05-10, 10:13 PM
All the parts ive listed are quality parts(just second hand)

And ive already said i have a good mate who has spannered on all my cars who could do the conversion(hes currently building a MK2 escort with a Honda s2000 engine in it)

I shud keep track of how much it costs lol

Rickardo
01-05-10, 10:16 PM
My old turbo had £11k in it, and i was still fannying about most weekends with it..

If you have money to spend, spend it on the right stuff.

:thumb:

Mike
01-05-10, 10:16 PM
All the parts ive listed are quality parts(just second hand)

And ive already said i have a good mate who has spannered on all my cars who could do the conversion(hes currently building a MK2 escort with a Honda s2000 engine in it)

I shud keep track of how much it costs lol

If you think you can spanner it cheap then go for it by all means just dont assume you wont come across any niggles tho.

Benn
01-05-10, 10:46 PM
Use 288 (vectra) over calibra 284 stuff. Disc and pads are cheaper.

JonBarlow
02-05-10, 07:00 AM
Thanks Benn, That is the type of info i need

Rickardo
02-05-10, 07:36 AM
Instead of paying £150 for a front mount.

Use a Frontera intercooler. Should be no more then £40-£50 second hand.

More than capable for the job.

You can use some of the existing Calibra intercooler pipes as well, saves you even more money.



I used 2nd hand V6 Veccy brakes on mine, they were only £60.

Well worth the money, you'll need a minimum 15" wheel, with no weights on the inside. They catch on the caliper if you do.

You can do it on a budget, but some of the money you save i would put into buying things for the engine.

New Headgasket

Timing belt

Water pump

Idle control valve etc etc.

There all a pain in the c0ck to do when the engine is in. There isn't alot of room to work with when it's all in.

Paul
02-05-10, 09:25 AM
Im taking a back seat in this thread.

If you can find a good LET and f28 then good luck to u.

Nobby
02-05-10, 11:25 AM
as been said most people have very differnet opinions, with me im always ona budget as i have a mortgage etc etc so my build cost this -

car around £250
suspension £100
engine box - £1100
brakes - £50
Shafts mounts £120
Intercooler - £40
Petrol tank and pump - £40
Boost Pipes were diy and some came with the engine £0
water Pipes - £0 diy again
Exhaust welded onto nova system diy £0

and that was mine built and done i seam welded the bay and did all the labour so thats its £1700 on a budget so a more decent one can be built for 2k so id get that as your budget i dont see how unless you go overboard you can spend anymore on that to get it in and running etc. Yes you can after with uprated turbos and bits and bobs like that but imo start low then aim high get her in and running and then the uprated bits come after and try not to crash it after 4 miles like i did!! ( fukin dosey clio drivers grrrr))

mowgli
02-05-10, 11:36 AM
you are also someone with a lot of prior knowledge & experience on novas, so if you added in all the stuff you'd already done, it would actually bump it up massively

Paul
02-05-10, 01:48 PM
Serviceable parts;

brake fluid, oil, antifreeze, plugs, leads, cap, g box oil, paint for engine bay after welding?

Tax?

MOT?

Wheels with tyres?

Thats atleast another 350 there.

Paul
02-05-10, 01:50 PM
Buying an exhaust in the first place?

Interior to make it nicer inside?

Gauges, boost at minimum?

Theres another 150+

let_nova
02-05-10, 02:15 PM
got to page 5... what a load of crap in this thread. not heard so much crap in a longtime. there not hard to work on, not hard to fix. and they dont all need a rebuild. you would think you were building a let nova to car bomb somewhere the way people are trying to put you off.

MattBrown
02-05-10, 02:22 PM
This is my project...

Im upto £2700 counting every nut and bolt, and it still needs

Paint
Rear coilovers
Alarm
Induction kit/filter
Transducer

Thats off the top of my head, thats a £350 xe engine, not turbo.


I would say, and still say, to build a nice specced turbo its £5k+


Rick draper, Lee-h, etc, have spent alot more than that, and there cars are or were always in bits, or in lee's case, tucked away for a nice summers day lol

MattBrown
02-05-10, 02:22 PM
got to page 5... what a load of crap in this thread. not heard so much crap in a longtime. there not hard to work on, not hard to fix. and they dont all need a rebuild. you would think you were building a let nova to car bomb somewhere the way people are trying to put you off.

This I would say is true, if it runs perfectly in the donor car, then why would it not run in the nova?lol

let_nova
02-05-10, 02:24 PM
BUT ffs maybe he doesnt want a show queen or a fancy polished fecking nova, just a nova with a let engine for track days etc. why does it need rear coilovers etc!!

MattBrown
02-05-10, 02:28 PM
BUT ffs maybe he doesnt want a show queen or a fancy polished fecking nova, just a nova with a let engine for track days etc. why does it need rear coilovers etc!!


Thats my project LET

Looking at your nova, id easily say theres £5k there in new parts?

let_nova
02-05-10, 02:30 PM
yes a lot more, but i didnt built it for track. i could of built it for track for 1700

MattBrown
02-05-10, 02:30 PM
yes a lot more, but i didnt built it for track. i could of built it for track for 1700

List of parts and prices...

let_nova
02-05-10, 02:36 PM
engine and box and mounts 650
shafts and cvs £50
car £300
suspension £150
cooler and piping £50
fuel pump £20
radiator £40
brakes £50
wheels £300

Mike
02-05-10, 02:39 PM
BUT ffs maybe he doesnt want a show queen or a fancy polished fecking nova, just a nova with a let engine for track days etc. why does it need rear coilovers etc!!

I think what people are saying is, its all well & good having cheap thrills, but even they come at a price.

If it were me, and I was building even a cheap as chips LET motor to rag around Combe or somewhere, id want to be giving it death safe in the knowledge the cam belt aint gonna snap & completely destroy a £1200+ engine.

Because once that £1200 engine is fixed, it could potentailly end being a £2k+ engine after a set of new valves, head or block, couple of pistons etc etc etc etc

Paul
02-05-10, 03:38 PM
engine and box and mounts 650


Ill take 10 of them please, send me details where to send money, and will you post or collection only?

Shaun
02-05-10, 06:26 PM
Ill take 10 of them please, send me details where to send money, and will you post or collection only?

yeh and me

Maybe set up a GB letnova?? lol

let_nova
02-05-10, 06:35 PM
nope, was on ebay chaps. ****test advert ever.

calEbra turbo engine thats it. nothing else. phoned the number, offered cash he took it when i collected the next night. the day after i collected it it was still on ebay at over 1k lol

came with history, loads of spares etc.

Mike
02-05-10, 06:38 PM
nope, was on ebay chaps. ****test advert ever.

calEbra turbo engine thats it. nothing else. phoned the number, offered cash he took it when i collected the next night. the day after i collected it it was still on ebay at over 1k lol

came with history, loads of spares etc.

And the chances of that happening again are pretty much zero, which would lead me to believe that no, you cant just "get a LET" (just like that) for a few hundred quid (also makes me think the engine youve got could be from a stolen car too regardless of service history)

JonBarlow
02-05-10, 06:40 PM
Yes LetNova thats what im talking about, im not after building a show queen
The car wont need paint or a nice interior because it aint my everyday car, its sole purpose will be to go fast at dragdays, i also have lots of spare Boost hoses from previous cars even got boost gauge, dump valve and breather tank,
Everything that goes on the car will be just to do the job, dont even care what alloys it ends up on because there only to get clearance for brakes

But agree that the engine will have certain things done before it goes into car inc cam belt

nova_saloon
02-05-10, 06:44 PM
do a c20xe, if you felt like you did that easily then consider doing the let. just dont jump in unsure of what is going on, things can end up messy

Shaun
02-05-10, 06:52 PM
Right..

your going to need a complete c20let with loom and all ancillaries

gearbox, ideally f28

mount kit, including fitting/welding of new mount on pass side for f28

bay strengthening kit

shafts, can use gsi/gte shafts with mk2 cavalier inner cvs or buy big block conversion shafts

the loom is pretty much colour to colour following the guide on here

Also suspension should be upgraded with 300lb front springs to take the weight of let

brakes, ideally 2.0 16v brakes from likes of astra gsi minimum

Thats all you will need to put it in and get running. You can do it cheap if needs be but I cant see under 3k.

Good luck tbh, Ive spent easy 5k on mine

Do it once Do it properly, but mines built to last not to do a few track days and scrap it

JonBarlow
02-05-10, 06:59 PM
Thanks mate thats the basic info i was looking for at the start of the thread before i got jumped on(wish i was 17 again lol)

I will keep a list of how much it has cost to get it to its first drag day at york(not sure how long that will take though) thanks Jon

Shaun
02-05-10, 07:20 PM
no worries, thats the minimum to get it running usually standard power.

search on here mate, theres lots you can do to get 250 hp pretty easily tbh

mowgli
02-05-10, 07:27 PM
ok, a mk1 1.2 nova needs a new tank for efi. the mounts & shafts for a let/f28, a shell plating kit. shell strip modifying & stitch welding. completely renewed suspension, and i mean all components, then you have the piping, wiring & controls, plus bigger brakes & wheels/tyres, then you need to sort out the speedo, intercooler mounting, and bodywork modification, plus the cost of a new clutch, & rebuilding the engine, then the turbo will probably need work,

I would guess about 100 man hours labour
& about £2.5k of bits, then the cost of paint etc.


5 grand could easily be spent

i put this up last night, and 24 hrs later you announce you only want to 1/4 mile it........ which means you'd better properly rebuild the engine, fit a f20 box & get spares, get an LSD, and basically spend a lot more if you want it to last very long.......

Nobby
02-05-10, 11:34 PM
Right..

gearbox, ideally f28



why? mine was on a f16 lol and others have run them aswell

Lee H
02-05-10, 11:40 PM
why? mine was on a f16 lol and others have run them aswell

Because you know it won't blow up whenever you give it death, 4 miles hardly counts :d

Paul
03-05-10, 01:19 AM
Let is 1000

belt kit & quick freshen up 150

v6 brakes 50

cheapo alloys 40

tyres (grippy ish ones) 160

plating kit 100

f20 60ish

f28 200ish

clutch kit 100

fuel tank & pump 40

shafts & mounts 150

car 400 ish

tax & mot 150

thats what you need.

Nobby
03-05-10, 10:25 AM
4 miles hardly counts :d

lol :(

Benn
03-05-10, 10:37 AM
Let is 1000

belt kit & quick freshen up 150

v6 brakes 50

cheapo alloys 40

tyres (grippy ish ones) 160

plating kit 100

f20 60ish

f28 200ish

clutch kit 100

fuel tank & pump 40

shafts & mounts 150

car 400 ish

tax & mot 150

thats what you need.

Being abler to insure it £600+

Mieran
03-05-10, 01:21 PM
If its a drag car V6 route will be cheaper.

Engines are easy to get and cost less than £500.

MattBrown
03-05-10, 04:13 PM
So what have we actually taught the fella?

That let nova could build one for £1750, and I could build one with mowgli for around £5k, then we move up into lee-h and shinny benns legue, and spend way over £10k


It all depends upon what you want to do with it.

For instance, get a 3l v6, run it on avgas? and hope it lasts should see 250bhp there, and loads of torques.

mowgli
03-05-10, 04:30 PM
avgas is actually a lower quality fuel than pump petrol, its a bit of a legend that it makes you go faster.....

if i was thinking of making a drag strip car with a let, either a mk3 astra or a calibra would be my weapon of choice the calibra is slippery & has a decent footprint to give stability, then it would go on one hell of a diet... the nova suffers from severe lack of room under the bonnet, but the astra & cally have way more.

MattBrown
03-05-10, 04:34 PM
avgas is actually a lower quality fuel than pump petrol, its a bit of a legend that it makes you go faster.....

if i was thinking of making a drag strip car with a let, either a mk3 astra or a calibra would be my weapon of choice the calibra is slippery & has a decent footprint to give stability, then it would go on one hell of a diet... the nova suffers from severe lack of room under the bonnet, but the astra & cally have way more.

Often wondered this, i was told it was over 115octane?

Or is this bollox?

Mike
03-05-10, 05:13 PM
Often wondered this, i was told it was over 115octane?

Or is this bollox?

BS

76 Blue Racing Fuel your thinking of.

MattBrown
03-05-10, 05:45 PM
BS

76 Blue Racing Fuel your thinking of.

This must be the baby:)

Drag strip and stock xe here I come:d

Grey
04-05-10, 11:16 AM
This thread is epic lol well im 23 and have c20xe nova and that is good enough for me ive spent £1100 give or take including buying the engine £150 and rebuilt it and done other little pieces to it also, secretive :d i run a 14.6 at pod 2 years ago with old engine so hope to shave a few more off!

If you do start Building one start a thread! will be interesting!! :thumb:

Mike
04-05-10, 11:57 AM
This must be the baby:)

Drag strip and stock xe here I come:d

At £4 a litre (give or take) it'll be a costly run lol

JonBarlow
04-05-10, 06:11 PM
No probs, again thanks for all the advice ive just started collecting the bits i need(brakes, engine mounts and cooler) so not much more to get lol

Sloth
04-05-10, 06:23 PM
heres what i'd do. i'd buy an xe, fit let pistons, and a turbo and run it on megasquirt. £500 tops, and mappable.

nick.k
11-05-10, 10:39 PM
How funny is this thread getting. Im the person who will be building this car and im the person who has looked after many of jons cars over the past years. hard work ?i dont rthink so . expensive ?? not realy only for chavs with no cash. All i can see is is going to be hard work is getting the rusty old nuts and bolts loose a 20 year old car.plenty of wd 40 needed i think. appart from that no problem at all.

Paul
12-05-10, 07:47 AM
Hi mate,

Are you good at changing vauxhall gearboxes?

Paul

Benn
12-05-10, 08:10 AM
then we move up into lee-h and shinny benns legue, and spend way over £10k


What else is there to spunk money on..lol

MattBrown
12-05-10, 08:52 AM
What else is there to spunk money on..lol

Women, beer, hookers, clothes, shoes.

I do non of the above, so im all good:d

Sloth
12-05-10, 08:55 AM
How funny is this thread getting. Im the person who will be building this car and im the person who has looked after many of jons cars over the past years. hard work ?i dont rthink so . expensive ?? not realy only for chavs with no cash. All i can see is is going to be hard work is getting the rusty old nuts and bolts loose a 20 year old car.plenty of wd 40 needed i think. appart from that no problem at all.
im sorry but have you done a let or bigblock conversion before? i forsee a project forsale thread, as you seem to be seriously under estimating it. oh and rusty nuts and bolts are the least of your worries...

sleeperluv
12-05-10, 05:37 PM
Also not forgetting whether your drag stripping it, or tracking it, get decent managment get it mapped properly nuffin worse, then melting those loverly pistons!!!

JonBarlow
12-05-10, 06:06 PM
Pmsl, Nicks well used to changing gearboxes, he changed my cossy box 5 times in 5 years
The project is now full steam ahead ive put deposit on Engine/box and Ecu

Benn
12-05-10, 07:13 PM
Women, beer, hookers, clothes, shoes.

I do non of the above, so im all good:d

I have no woman :( don't drink, dont see the point in wasting money on posh clothes.. Cheap ones look good and i'd only end up wearing them while working on the car so.. Do like my Etnies tho and need another pair...

Mike
12-05-10, 07:49 PM
plenty of wd 40 needed i think

And a welder.

Plusgas is far better :)

nick.k
13-05-10, 07:06 PM
Hi mate,

Are you good at changing vauxhall gearboxes?

Paul
Yes !!!!!!

nick.k
13-05-10, 07:13 PM
im sorry but have you done a let or bigblock conversion before? i forsee a project forsale thread, as you seem to be seriously under estimating it. oh and rusty nuts and bolts are the least of your worries...
Your seriously under estimating how good i am ! and rust nuts and bolts is the most of my worries appart from jons wife not making the nice sausage sarnies and keeping the hot drinks flowing. Now that is a serious issue.

Shaun
13-05-10, 08:48 PM
lol pics of jons wife?

Mike
13-05-10, 10:16 PM
Your seriously under estimating how good i am !

Head swell much...

milko96
13-05-10, 10:18 PM
The man speaks the truth tho....

Mike
13-05-10, 10:29 PM
The man speaks the truth tho....

Anyone can talk the talk. Not everyone can walk it.

Lee H
13-05-10, 11:08 PM
Surely anyone is capable of throwing a LET in a Nova, mechanic or
not. I've done several and I'm merely an accountant!

MattBrown
14-05-10, 12:40 AM
Surely anyone is capable of throwing a LET in a Nova, mechanic or
not. I've done several and I'm merely a BALD accountant!


Edited for a more descriptive view.

Erm, im an apprentice spark, and I can pull engines in and out all day. For fun.

But, go for it.

Dont bother welding it.

Go for an f16 box

Wind the boost right up

Use cheap ****ty water pipes

Single point fuel pump.

Have fun:d

Lee H
14-05-10, 06:42 AM
Edited for a more descriptive view.


Don't really see what relevance my hair has to this thread. You really are a cocky tw@t for your age, no wonder so many people dislike you so much.

MattBrown
14-05-10, 07:06 AM
Don't really see what relevance my hair has to this thread. You really are a cocky tw@t for your age, no wonder so many people dislike you so much.

lol lol lol

milko96
14-05-10, 07:33 AM
Anyone can talk the talk. Not everyone can walk it.

He has worked on/built all my cars, so I know he 'walks the walk'...

380bhp Esc Cos
350bhp R32
ITR engined EG6
B16 engined EG5
335i E30
Eaton'd G40
220 bhp RST
C20XE Opel Kadett

To list just a few ;)

Mike
14-05-10, 06:33 PM
He has worked on/built all my cars, so I know he 'walks the walk'...

380bhp Esc c....
Blah...
Blah...
Blah...

To list just a few ;)

Means fcuk all to nobody really, stop carping on about it & get it built then.

I could sit here all telling you about the rally cars Ive built, but no one really cares.

MK999
14-05-10, 06:35 PM
I could sit here all telling you about the rally cars Ive built, but no one really cares.

You know the rules, pics or GTFO lol

milko96
14-05-10, 06:56 PM
Means fcuk all to nobody really, stop carping on about it & get it built then.

I could sit here all telling you about the rally cars Ive built, but no one really cares.

lol Relax mate...

and if you read the thread its not about my car.... I was jus defending the builder after you jumped on him earlier in the thread.

:thumb:

nick.k
14-05-10, 10:06 PM
Surely anyone is capable of throwing a LET in a Nova, mechanic or
not. I've done several and I'm merely an accountant!
:thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: Well said
And i am a vary good mechanic spent few years at college so my qualifications do mean something.
Some people may find this conversion hard but that normally down to not having enough cash to do the parts or decent enough parts needed
So Jon = cash = me = fast little nova.
Enough said getting boaring now some of you guys need to chill and realise that its not only you that can do a simple conversion ;)

mowgli
15-05-10, 01:48 PM
nick.k, there have been literally hundreds of threads on here where some lad & his pet cat have attempted to fit one in with a tube of no more nails & then we get involved in explaining that the conversion has to be safe & well thought out, which they then don't believe because the lad at the local burger bar knows that it is dead easy & can be done in an afternoon & is a straight swap......

we tend to get cynical when someone comes on here & starts a 'What do I need to do to fit a LET in my 1.2????' thread, cos the answer is pretty much... if you have to ask, then you shouldn't be doing it.

it is obviously going to need chassis & shell mods, then decent components, usually an engine rebuild because the LET was actually quite crap (IMO) and will have been thrashed for the last 15 years, and all the stuff that goes with that.

the tolerances on nova shells also mean that the 'conversion mounts' will most likely not fit without some work.

when it is done, please post up some pics, to show us, and let us know how much it cost,