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this is my new project, i am going to use it for autocross, it needs a good bit of work to finish it off
it has a vw beetle gearbox mounted to a 2l redtop,
it has x4 spax coilovers
x4 fiberglass wide arches
fiberglass front and back bumper
quick rack, 1.5 turns lock to lock!
here is a few pics
http://i421.photobucket.com/albums/pp297/jonny057/midmountednova013.jpg
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LEWI007
12-04-10, 10:05 PM
Looks class, when did you start building this ?
connor c
12-04-10, 10:07 PM
that is nice mate is auto cross the one where you do handbrake turns and stuff round cones or on a track i cant remember
CrAzY_kAyLL
12-04-10, 10:23 PM
what clutch you using on it ?
The Simps
12-04-10, 10:23 PM
love it. so simple and effective. what front uprights are they? manta?
That actually looks really cool!!
The Simps
12-04-10, 10:28 PM
what clutch you using on it ?
If its anything like the transaxle I'm using the std xe clutch fits ;)
i bought the nova like this today, its the standard xe clutch and a beetle clutch plate i think, the front is space framed and it has ford cortina front hubs
CrAzY_kAyLL
12-04-10, 11:00 PM
nice that sounds like a pretty simple conversion
If you're a jammy **** like me, the std xe clutch fits ;)
edited for accuracy. :thumb: lol
novalovingned
12-04-10, 11:19 PM
Cool :) will be nice to see what you do with this.
The Simps
13-04-10, 08:59 AM
edited for accuracy. :thumb: lol
Cheeky moneky! lol
vaughanmc
13-04-10, 09:00 AM
Got your work cut out there cheif - Should be interesting though :)
sound like it will be a nice nova once its done.. and for sayin its autograss lol give it a week or 2 once done before someone smashes you for having a nicer car
here is the front set up
http://i421.photobucket.com/albums/pp297/jonny057/midmountednova014.jpg
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novarally
13-04-10, 08:14 PM
that is nice mate is auto cross the one where you do handbrake turns and stuff round cones or on a track i cant remember
You're thinking of AUTOTESTS.
dj_wudgey
14-04-10, 12:06 AM
looks good mate will be well cool when its done!!
done a small bit of work this week, got the radiator nearly mounted on the front and got the steering colum set up
http://i421.photobucket.com/albums/pp297/jonny057/midmountednova018.jpg
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BRoadGhost
28-04-10, 10:47 PM
Shame it's wide arch imo but it's still going to be epic :D
dj_wudgey
28-04-10, 10:54 PM
Shame it's wide arch imo but it's still going to be epic :D
Same imo but i stil love this project!
well i scraped the idea of the beetle gearbox and i am now going to use a vectra subframe, so out came the grinder and out came the beetle axel :lol: here is the vectra subframe just sitting in place, does anyone know if a redtop engine will bolt on to the vectra engine mount?
http://i421.photobucket.com/albums/pp297/jonny057/nova16l008.jpg
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BRoadGhost
10-05-10, 09:38 PM
Urghhh …I'm at a loss ~ why go over to this less desirable setup?
Is it purely because the beetle gearbox isn't up to the job? If so I've seen single seaters running that configuration so there MUST be a box strong enough.
Look at all that extra weight before you weld it all on :(
i know its more weight and it will take alot of work to set it up but once its finished its finished the opel gearbox should last a long time and if it breaks i have 2 more of them. i had problems aswell with the beetle back brakes, their wasnt enough room to fit the brakes inside the drums because the suspension mounts were in the way. now i will have rear discs
i fitted the suspension and wheels to get everything in place to start making the frame for the subframe to mount to. i need to move the subframe back about 2" so the wheel is not as close to the bottom of the arches
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i have to say that i agree, the set up you are going for will make the car a rear engined car rather than mid engined. you may want to do a little more research before you go too far with the mods.
The Simps
24-05-10, 10:13 PM
As with above comments I'd go with the beetle or audi box.
i know the beelte gearbox and engine would be the easyist way to do it, but as i said before i had problems with rear brakes and beetle gearboxes are going to be harder to find, the other reason i am to use the subframe is that i have 2 vectras for parts, i liked the idea of the beetle gearbox but i have my mind made up and i am going to use the subframe
bit of a update
http://i421.photobucket.com/albums/pp297/jonny057/zxc003.jpg
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The red top will fit in with 2.0 Ecotec mounts so you're sorted.
Where in Ireland you at mate?
ok thanks, im in birr co.offaly
Good man, I added rep there as well, so take a look at it.
The Simps
07-06-10, 11:42 PM
Might be worth dropping Chip a PM on migweb. He's got a mid engined nova using mk4 astra struts. He's had lots of problems running the macpherson strut so maybe a few PMs etc might stop you making the same mistakes.
All brave what you're doing tho. Good to see something different.
i would be tempted to weld verticle pieces to the subframe mounts to make them alot stronger, it seems they could bend up as they are at the mo
The Simps
08-06-10, 03:40 AM
I'm assuming those tabs are temporary burgo.
thats welded in fairly comprehensively for a temporary thing, i usually just tack weld my temporary brackets
i would of kept with the beetle gearbox idea, seems so much better. and half of the work was already done for ya!
i am using them mounts for the subframe just to get car rolling. then i can move it into the other shead and get welding and strengthening with the big c02 welder and start making the inner arches to hold the strut
farmertom
08-06-10, 01:23 PM
Im sure the beetle gearbox can take loads of power.
I read in a mini magazine a few years back, about a guy who had a beetle with a v8 with over 500 bhp im sure the gearbox was standard it was used for hillclimb.
bit of work done
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scott.parker
18-06-10, 11:12 PM
This is different..
Subscribed..
started to make the rear inner arches and i put all the body parts on to see what it will look like when it gets finished, pics are $h!t quality had to use my phone
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rear exit exhaust!
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strut tops
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here is the engine in place so i can see what room is left
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shorty249
19-07-10, 07:23 PM
mmm i like the thought of a rear wheel drive nova. are you racing autocross now or is this your first car?
Angus Closier
19-07-10, 07:39 PM
Depending on what beetle box it is, Most of them would self distruct with an xe. My mate has a tuned 1303s and it has a GT box due to everything else from the 1300cc box to the 1303s box not being strong enough! As long as this subframe set up is done well it will be better than the bettle box. Plus the Gearing on the beetle box's are w**k. Looks good work mate! keep the updates!
i am already racing a 1.6 16v nova, this my second car to build and i am only turning 17 next month!
saloonwoody
19-07-10, 10:08 PM
Depending on what beetle box it is, Most of them would self distruct with an xe. My mate has a tuned 1303s and it has a GT box due to everything else from the 1300cc box to the 1303s box not being strong enough! As long as this subframe set up is done well it will be better than the bettle box. Plus the Gearing on the beetle box's are w**k. Looks good work mate! keep the updates!
try to keep up lol
shorty249
20-07-10, 06:08 PM
my mate has got a 1.6 16v nova rally car, that goes well. but im sure this nova will be a flyer!!
brake-dust
04-08-10, 04:03 PM
empty your inbox!
started to work on this nova again, i had to join the hubs to the swing arm to use the coilovers i had, done a bit of work to the roll cage, the tops of the suspension will be mounted to the roll cage.
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those bottom arms are very clever
thanks, they are cheap and nasty but the should work lol
nova_saloon
11-09-10, 12:32 AM
that looks pretty epic if you ask me
total_vauxhall
11-09-10, 12:32 AM
is this going to be autograss mate or road legal . ps dont mean to cause any chew mate but wont that plate on the wishbone set up foul on the drive shaft ? maby not as close in real as in pic but looks very close
it will be used for autograss and mabey track days in the future if the suspension works ok, the plate looks very close to the drive shaft in the picture but it is about 30-40mm away from it
ste porter
12-09-10, 01:52 AM
that rear wish bone setup is actualy alot clever than what people realise infact you have just solved a massive engineering problem that alot of people have suffered in the past with these types of build and you havent even realised it!
chip spent a fortune trying to get his head round the problem of mid mounted engfines using front wheel drive subframes.
problem is most people run track rods and mount them to the chassis to set the track of the rear wheels when they do it as a result as the suspension travels up and down it causes the wheel to toe in or out and causes whats known as bump steer. This can be very nasty in the wrong situations when you least exspect it
that setup you have there completly eliminates it the only adverse efect though from that is the camber situation its non adjustable and as a result lower it goes the more camber you will get
thats said though it could be made adjustable via slotting the holes.
well done
thanks mate :thumb: as you said the only disadvange is the camber will change a bit when its lowered but i can put in the slots if i need to change it,
MattBrown
12-09-10, 10:54 AM
Looks well fella.
I thought about the shaft hitting the hub on full droop, but 40mm should be fine:thumb:
ok i decided to mount the coilover on to the plate where the track rod end use to go and i am going to put the top mount under the roll bar, i have the bottom mount welded in place for the coilover i just need to sort out the top mounts, i will try and get up pics 2moro when i get my brothers camera
i fitted my isuzu flywheel now so i can use small block gearboxs, f17 because i have 3 of them! here is a few pics i took tonight
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custom exhaust ;)
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engine and box
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extra engine mount
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altanator adjuster
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clutch cylinder
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scott.parker
22-10-10, 06:28 PM
lol that will be quite then!!
shed-on-wheels
22-10-10, 10:25 PM
this is a class weldone fella
bit more work done
floor and half of the firewall in
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radiator
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davidfox280585
27-10-10, 07:00 PM
looks well so whats the info on fitting the isuzu td flywheel to the xe what clutch etc etc surely the info will help a lot of conversions
their is a small bit of work involved in fitting the flywheel,
only 6 of the 8 holes lined up so i had to do a small bit of filing to get the other 2 holes to line up.
the ring gear on the isuzu flywheel would not match the xe starter so i took off the ring gear and had to take a small bit off of the flywheel on the lathe then i fitted the xe ring gear
i used a x16xe clutch and flywheel
QuickTime
27-10-10, 08:07 PM
Looks great, good to see something different :)
a bit more work done now
battery tray in
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got the ford cortina callipers for the hubs
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brake bias valve
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under wings painted, the car will be getting a full respray in white when its ready
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alloy dash
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amm did u say ur turning 17a few pages back?
is it just urself working on this or have u got help?
fantastic build so far there..
im sure alot of people on here will feel lazy with the work theyve done on there own cars reading this!
ya i am 17 now, my father does a good bit of work with me
this is an epic build especialy when your only 17 keep the updates coming. :thumb:
just a pointer...if i were you, i'd seriously look at mounting the rad in further, if you are planning autograss with it, then there will be impact, and that rad will be knackered........
and if you don't run the alternator, but just keep a good charge on the battery, it is worth 5hp.
i have to make up guards to put around the radiator to protect it. it would of been handy to keep the rad in the back but i think the temperature would be to high and not much air can get in and keep the rad cool
i got the rear of the cage finished today and i have the door bars and harness bar ready to fit
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Paddyrallyhead
03-11-10, 09:20 PM
fair play dude this is an utterly epic build makes mine look very simple.... and nice to see a few irish lads knocking about.... :-)
TeddyThom
03-11-10, 09:34 PM
Definately subscribed to this, hope this works out well, get some vids up once she is finished!! :thumb:
16v Nova Kev
03-11-10, 09:34 PM
nice build but is it going to be alot heavier now.
BRoadGhost
03-11-10, 10:45 PM
Yeah & that'll be the last thing you want 10 years down the line when it's twice the horse power ~ BODY STRENGTH, BALANCE & SAFTEY.
Cut that tubing out now & get the hole drill on every internal panel because everyone knows it's all about 400 HP drag slag turbos & fcuk all useability.
got the footwell welded up
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fitted harness bar and done a bit of priming
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scott.parker
07-11-10, 12:06 PM
Looks really good so far, but did you rub the surface rust off before priming?
Scott
16v Nova Kev
07-11-10, 12:08 PM
Yeah & that'll be the last thing you want 10 years down the line when it's twice the horse power ~ BODY STRENGTH, BALANCE & SAFTEY.
Cut that tubing out now & get the hole drill on every internal panel because everyone knows it's all about 400 HP drag slag turbos & fcuk all useability.
EH.
Looks really good so far, but did you rub the surface rust off before priming?
Scott
ya i sanded the rust off then heated it to get rid of moisture and sprayed it
i bought a new fuel filter and front brake hoses
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fitted the door bars
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fitted brake bias valve
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Mate, I'm loving this project. Well done thus far pal.
thanks DOd, started to connect up the brakes today
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scott.parker
17-11-10, 08:11 PM
Humm i might be wrong, but to me it looks like that would rub on the tire when on a lock to the right and then be on quite a stretch when locked to the left, just hope I'm wrong mate?
Scott
it looks close to the tyre in the pictures but it is ok, i jacked the front of the car off the ground so the suspension was at full travel and they were still ok
grasser26
20-11-10, 10:34 PM
Hi-What size rod end is used on your front suspension top wishbone? What size tubing is used in the wishbones?? Thanks
Hi-What size rod end is used on your front suspension top wishbone? What size tubing is used in the wishbones?? Thanks the front wishbones are made from 1 inch box iron and the hole in the rod end is 12mm
grasser26
21-11-10, 04:10 PM
Hi-That's grand,thanks.
i went to bleed my front brakes yesterday and fluid started to leak from the master cylinder so i took it off and the seal was gone. so i decided to fit a vectra b servo and cylinder, i just need to get more brake fluid and hope it works.
i got the clutch pipes connected and bleed it and it is working fine, i just need to get a small reservoir bottle for it
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clutch
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You're flying at this mate, its coming on really well. How far off driving is it?
ive not really done a hole lot since, i fitted all the arches back on and did a bit of body work, il try and get a few pics up tomorrow
i done a small bit of work on the nova over the christmass, i fitted all the arches back on, i used tiger seal and rivits for the back arches, i started to weld up the wishbone setup, and i also made a rear spoiler for some downforce!
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Looking ace mate,
keep up the good work :thumb:
i have not really done a thing to this since the last update. i bought a set of r1 carbs and fuel pump today. i still need to decide if i am going to use a dizzy and coil or aftermarket management.
i hope to get alot of work done to this over the summer
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i got the manifold off and i blanked off the water pipes.
i took off the cam cover to do the breather mod
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calibra-keith
01-05-11, 09:03 PM
i must of missed this one keep it up mate :thumb:
ryansnova
01-05-11, 11:39 PM
not seen this thread sinse it was started and i have to say i love it mate
keep up the good work lol
i got the manifold made today. it only cost me about €15 lol i just need to weld in a fitting for the brake survo then grind down the welds and get it galvanised.
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farmertom
08-05-11, 09:22 PM
thats awsome, good job!!
thanks, i should be getting my megajolt ecu setup next week
i got the ecu setup today.
the manifold went off today to get galvanised today so i should have it back in a few days.
does anyone know what sort of cable i have to get to connect the ecu to a laptop? it looks like it uses some sort of phone cable
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BRoadGhost
11-05-11, 08:36 PM
This is the sort of ignition I really need with my carbs.
Am I right in thinking it comes with TPS & air temp sensor too?
I wonder how many people can map megajolt ~ Was it about £300 btw?
For the cost of a sMegaJolt you might aswell get a mircosquirt and have the option of fuel injection in future.
Plus means you dont need the naff Ford Edith system.
For the MJ connector...
http://www.autosportlabs.net/MJLJ_V4_Operation_Guide#Installing_Configuration_S oftware
Its technically DIY but I'm petrified of spark and I've been doing engine calibration for years lol
ya i might try and make my own cable
i mounted the ecu and edis 4 today. i might do a bit of wiring today and mount the coil
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i made the mount for the coil today and fitted some 4mm rubber behind the ecu.
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i got the manifold back from being galvanished today and i gave it a coat of black paint.
i just need to drill out the main jets then get a new inlet gasket and a few jublie clips then fit the manifold and carbs
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thedondy
17-05-11, 08:39 PM
nice bit a fab work there lad :cool:
did the galvinising do your manifold any harm?
thanks, the manifold came out fine after
Jonn, the following of the thread seems to have lost momentum, but thankfully the build hasn't. Looking fantastic. One thing though, has the Galvanising left the inside of the inlet rough? Might be worth polishing it and giving it an even coat of paint instead, to aid air flow.
Crlracing
18-05-11, 02:18 AM
Looking good!
cheers DOd :thumb: the inside of the inlet was smooth so i left it alone.
i got the manifold and carbs together, i am just waiting for a inlet gasket and a 1.8mm drill bit to drill out the jets.
i am still waiting for the trigger wheel for the bottom pulley so i hope to have that soon.
i also got a lead and adapter to connect the ecu to the laptop.
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Jonn, the following of the thread seems to have lost momentum, but thankfully the build hasn't. Looking fantastic. One thing though, has the Galvanising left the inside of the inlet rough? Might be worth polishing it and giving it an even coat of paint instead, to aid air flow.
rough inlet is good, causes Mr Tumble :)
/\ Elaborate please Mr Stuart.
if the air flow is too laminar (smooth walls) then it wont mix properly in the combustion chamber, so a bit of a rough surface will breakup the boundary layer causing the air to be a bit turbulent and mix properly :)
Ah, so the particals bounce about and head off indiffferent directions and so mix whereas if it was smooth they'd just drop straight in.
Today I am more smarterier than yesterday.
i got the drill bits this morning so i drilled out the jets, put carbs back together and i replaced the old screws with allen head ones
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jets all drilled
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jets back in
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old screw
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Good thinking Batman, makes life a lot easier when it comes to removal, I would suggest giving them a wipe with copper or silicone grease as when they rust its a nightmare to get them loosened.
i fitted the oil cooler, brake servo pipe and exhaust and inlet gaskets. i am still waiting for the trigger wheel and i need to get a plug lead. once i get them it will nearly be ready to start
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Since you're handy at the old welder, why not make up your own Manifold? Although a 4 branch, they are very very restrictive and a lot of power gains can be made here.
@DOd, ya i might try making one in the future when i get it finished
i was at the scrap yard today to get a plug lead and i saw a isuzu trooper bonnet scoop so bought it and fitted it to the nova to keep things cool and get air near the carbs
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got the trigger wheel at last and have the wiring finished now! i hate wiring and being half colour blind does'nt help :lol:
i will have a go at mounting the trigger wheel later.
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tps
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mount for crank sensor
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Top work, nearly ready for its maiden voyage then!
calibra-keith
08-06-11, 03:13 PM
im sure i subscribed to this thread, looks like its coming on and should be a bit of a weapon.
thanks lads, i turned some pipe down on the lathe to make a spacer and a mount for the trigger wheel. i hope to start the engine tomorrow, i just need to mount the crank sensor and connect up the fuel pump the hope the engine fires up lol
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i got the engine turning over and checked for spark then went to turn on the fuel pump and nothing. it was siezed or burnt out so i spent about an hour an a half taking it apart and putting it back together and still nothing so i was running out of patience at this stage and took it off and threw it in the ditch lol i will try and get another one sorted in the next week or two
Awesome, nice work so far. Are you finishing the exterior off with a nice respray or anything like that once it's up and running?
thanks, i am thinking of respraying it white when its ready.
right i got a fuel pump tonight piped it all up and i got the engine fired up after a few seconds the engine was not started in about two and a half years and their was no smoke from it.
their is a slight miss fire so i am going to get new plugs for it tomorrow and pipe up a radiator for the time being so i can let the engine heat up to running temperature and see if it is runnung lean or rich.
i have to order another cable to connect the laptop to the ecu so i can download the c20xe map on to it. this should cure the miss fire,
i will get a few pictures tomorrow and try and get a video up
i spent most of the day fitting the pipes for the radiator. i started it a few times to see if i could find out why it was miss firing. i found out that two of the plug leads were mixed up so when i started it again it was like a new engine, the engine revved twice as good and the noise of it! a good few flames came out of the exhaust! i will definitely get a video up of it tomorrow, i dont want to upset the neighbours to much.
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I love this build thread, its not pretty but its really taking shape mate!
Any chance of a few pics of where the Nova body meets the box chassis? I'm keen to see how its done.
scott.parker
11-06-11, 09:17 PM
I gather your going to try put some sort of bulk/door seal edging round the holes so theres no chance of them cutting in?
@ Dod, ya i will get a few pics Dod
@scott, ya i have to get some sort of a seal to cover the edge of the holes.
i am going to make a small tunnel that will cover up the water pipes and i can mount my gear lever on. the next big steep is to try and get the gear linkage working
here is a video its not great but you get the idea
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pt-7EWva6jQ
boyd_1989
13-06-11, 03:46 AM
Me 2 :thumb:
farmertom
16-06-11, 08:32 AM
flames ftw good stuff jonn
ya the flames will keep the cobwebs out!
i started to prime the cage and inside, the car will be getting a full respray, mabey white!
i started to wire in the ignition switch and start button, i need to wire in a big oil light aswell.
i also removed the bonnet skin to save some weight.
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calibra-keith
18-06-11, 09:22 PM
sounds angry jonn i like it, will it not be to loud ?
its possible that it could be to loud, i have no way to test the noise so i will have to see if the scrutineer passes it.
OllieKing
18-06-11, 09:38 PM
:thumb: Top Work
What are you going to use it for? Trackdays? Most have noise levels about 100dB
@ Mazz, i am going to use it for autocross, if its to loud i will just make up a differnt exhaust system. i will get it noise tested when it is finished.
gave the rear end a few coats of grey oxide and its first coat of white
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Any more updates since mate?
not much really, busy working on the other nova, i will start back at in about a week or 2.
hope to get the brakes and gear linkage sorted out next
Danny s-p
19-07-11, 09:44 PM
this is mint i like the sound to
have some bad news with the engine... last sunday i started the nova and it was running fine, then on monday i went to start it and it did not go to well. the engine was turning over for a second then it locked up and the engine did not start. i had to use a socket and rachet to turn the engine back and when i turned the engine by hand it stopped a certain point.
so today i took the head off and there is very small damage to no.1 piston and the valve guide is broken, but more bad news..... the engine is still locking up. when i compare piston no.1 with no.4 piston no.1 is about 3mm lower so it must be a bent con rod or something nasty.
its going to cost a good few euro to fix it and put it back together so i am going to have to leave it for a month or two and try and work away with the rest of the car. the engine was the only thing that was fully complete and cost me a good bit
some pictures
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piston 4mm lower than the other one
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Was it a standard engine?
ya standard with just bike carbs.
piston and bent conrod. piston has slight damage but should be ok to use again
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scott.parker
31-07-11, 12:14 PM
I never seen that one before!
I know the brake under high revs etc, but not bend on them selves etc, must of already been slightly bent/stressed before you had it to do it on start up then.
I personally would replace the lot to be on the extra safe side, no point in keeping something that been under strain/stress already, as you might have to replace it in the end if it's weakened etc, could just replace with second hand goos items some how?
Scott
Bit of a weird one that, like Scotty says, it must already been weakened because (afaik) you've not really had it under any load before...
How did the piston get damaged there?
i am not sure what happened i just went to start it then bang. i think the piston got damaed when it went to come back down and it hit off the crank
Bad news mate. But I suppose its a good oppertunity to get the ****er opened up and rebuilt. I've a pair of spare pistons here if you want one? Cover the postage and they're yours.
that would be great Dod i will pm you my address and let me know how much i owe you.
it hydraulic-ed. either loads of fuel in the chamber or water. the piston had nowhere to go & the weakest thing bent.. the rod.
it must of been the fuel that caused it then because the head gasket looked to good. i had the fuel pump switch off so the switch itself must be faulty or got stuck. at least now i can give it a good rebuild and fit the apr rpd bolts.
i spent most of yesterday cleaning out the shead to start work on the nova again. i started to strip down the head today. i have an engine stand ordered so once i get that i will take the engine block out and bolt it to the stand. the engine will be getting a full rebuild over the next few months.
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Mate, sorry I havent been in touch. A lot of stuff going on but thats no excuse. I'll be home in the next few days and I'll sort all out for you.
there is no rush i wont need them for a few weeks anyway, thanks :thumb:
i have the head fully stripped now, it will be getting new valves and valve stem oil seals, i think i will need to get 2 new exhaust valve guides aswell.
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i got my local mechanic to have a look at the head off the engine and he says that the valve guides are ok so i am just going to give it a small skim. i am going to rebuild the head first. i should have the head back tomorrow and then i will order the valves.
i am going to redesign the rear suspension set up and use different struts. i will try and get pics up later
The Simps
30-08-11, 10:18 AM
Sounds good.
a bit more work done today, the head will be back tomorrow then its time to order the rebuild parts
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block out
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need to get a engine stand or make up something.
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started to strip some weight off the doors, still need to cut out the insides and get polycarb windows
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head back after being skimmed and i had a go at making my own engine stand needs a small bit more work and a lick of paint and it will be grand lol it saved me about €50-60 buying a new stand.
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crank out, i ordered the following below parts today
> big end bearings
> inlet valves
> exhaust valves
> full gasket kit
> bottom end, sump gasket kit
> water pump
> timming belt kit
> main bearings
> piston rings
>apr rod bolts
still need to get new bolts for the crank.
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i got a full set of early mahle pistons and rods today. i also cleaned the block and painted it red, the camera makes it look alot brighter.
i have one door cut out now aswell.
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new and bent rod!
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scott.parker
04-09-11, 09:47 PM
Is that bent one none GM or just flipped to the other way up so no GM stamp?
its gm just flipped the other way
arp rod bolts arrived this morning and the 8mm alluminium pipe for the porus head mod
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i got these parts today, still need to get crankshaft bolts
16 valves
water pump
full gaskit kits
big end bearings
main bearings
timming belt kit
piston rings
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Cenoura54
08-09-11, 09:46 PM
Top work fella.
It's like a Go kart but more fun!lol
thanks, i cant wait to get it finished now, i will have alot of time over the winter so it should be ready around december.
my plans for now are to rebuild engine, redesign rear suspension, get the brakes working.
carls nova sri
09-09-11, 12:20 AM
just read this from the start an im amazed at your hard work and efforts. keep up the good work mate
thanks carl,
i fitted the new bearings today, i will fit the piston rings later.
went to fit the water pump but it is for the early round tooth timming belt so i will have to get another one
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started to grind in the new valves today and did a bit of work with the rear suspension setup
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before
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started work on the rear suspension setup
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vectra hub
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new outer hub to hold bearing, need to get it bored out on the lathe cut a circlip grove then fit the vectra wheel bearing and hub. i will be using 2 rose joints to hold on the hub.
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i got these air filters today.
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scott.parker
14-09-11, 03:50 PM
There like minimoto filters, it's coming on well mate, nice to see the engine getting rebuilt, cant wait to see it all get finished and blasting around sideways!
Scott
cooper4x4gsi+nova
14-09-11, 04:59 PM
Im impressed its a big job for your age hope it all works out for you. Its a nice bit of fabricating those rear arms how do you get them square and at the right dimensions?? A friend built a jig for his wesfield lower arms.
Also remember clenliness is the key on the engine build a slight bit of debris from the fabricating getting in the engine will waste all you hard earned money. build it in the kitchen when the olds are out ;)
GRANT !!!
14-09-11, 06:26 PM
just read this start to finish good work pal and good to see you starting young! wish my dad pointed me in the right way! lol
thanks for the comments,
i have the head built now i just need to fit the cams. i dont think i can fit them until the head is bolted to the block because they are in the way of the head bolts. still need to sort out the water pump.
i fitted the crank, pistons and rods.
i have to get new:
1) head bolts
2) flywheel bolts
3) main crank bearing bolts
4) main crank bolt
5) cam pulley bolts
i hope to get a magnetic sump plug and heat wrap for the exhaust manifold aswell.
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i started to sand the timming belt cover and cam cover, what colour do you think i should paint them?
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scott.parker
21-09-11, 05:54 PM
Yellow and Orange, i love them colors together! lol
djbrowney
21-09-11, 08:16 PM
nice build mate :)
Did you counersink the rod caps for the arps ???
@ djbrowney, no i did not have to counter sink them after, i dont think you have to for the new bolts. mine fitted in perfect without countersinking them.
i got the water pump at last, i ordered the new bolts that i need to finish off the bottom end. i still need to order the magnetic sump plug and exhaust heat wrap. i will try and get primer tomorrow and start on the cam and timming belt cover
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Is the water pump fitted in a temporary location? As its in the wrong place
Do you not need the water jacket in the inlet manifold?
the pump is just sitting place untill i get the timming belt and head on.
no i am not using the water jacket, i am blanking it because my manifold for the carbs does not need it.
started to wrap the manifold but ran out, i ordered another roll so i should have enough to even cover the backbox!
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have the exhaust finished now
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i have the engine nearly back together at last!
just need to fit timing belt and spray cam and belt cover.
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i have most of the engine together now, just need to paint cam and belt cover.
.still need to weld up sump or make a blanking plate
.get new plugs
.new oil
.shortest oil filter i can find
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Mental mate, fantastic work!
Thanks, cant wait to get this nova finished now!
calibra-keith
25-11-11, 12:23 AM
coming on mate engine looks great hopefully in few days i should have some r1 carbs for my 16xe
nova_saloon
25-11-11, 12:46 AM
excellent work just making sure, the shot before you fitted the cambelt the pump was in the wrong position, you did change it round to the correct position? and is the cambelt on the right way aswell?
ya i moved the position of the water pump before i fitted the timing belt, does it matter which way the belt fits? there is no arrow or markings on it
decided to fit a corsa b brake setup instead,
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calibra-keith
27-11-11, 06:13 PM
did you have to mod the pedal at all ? i had a quick look at mine when i saved corsa setup but didn't have time to look at it properly.
ya i have to still mod it yet,
phunkynova
27-11-11, 06:30 PM
Hi Jonn I'm no expert at setting up carb's but from my understanding you will get a better performance from them with some carb trumpets fitted as they will effect the engine torque.
Looking good all the same :thumb:
ya i might fit trumpets in the future i heard that different lengths effect the torque.
i cut the corsa plate to the right size welded it in and covered around with seam sealer
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also ordered the rose joints for the suspension setup
Looks really factory, I am impressed :)
thanks just need to give the area a good clean and time for some paint!
autoworksnovasport
02-12-11, 11:35 PM
did you cut the plate from a corsa or buy anew one????
The Simps
03-12-11, 02:48 AM
did you cut the plate from a corsa or buy anew one????
That black piece of plate he's welded in is bolt on on the corsa.
autoworksnovasport
03-12-11, 09:20 AM
aha
yes The simps is correct! i just trimmed the corsa plate to make it look better and to level with the battery tray so i got a better weld on it.
autoworksnovasport
03-12-11, 05:23 PM
yeah found it today still attached to the servo haha
ya i thought it was made onto the servo then had a good look and it just bolts off! i just drilled a hole with a 65mm hole saw then cut and welded the plate in place
right i have now decided to take the coilovers out of the front of my other nova and use them in the back of this, i just need to order some longer gravel inserts
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i think i am now going to use these coilovers instead, the only problem is it needs 2 bolt holes on the bottom like a nova strut.
the plan is to get some 50mm pipe and bore it out and thread the inside of it then weld on the 2 bits of flat with the 2 bolt holes each side and screw in up on to the coilover and put a bolt through the rose joint at the bottom to keep it in place.
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got these rose joints today:d also i ordered a magnetic sump plug a good few weeks ago and it got lost in the post so they sent out a replacement one then today i got the lost onelol just the washer is damaged.
i am going to start spraying the cam and belt cover after, think i will do them white because thats the only paint i have
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calibra-keith
05-12-11, 08:49 PM
ya i might fit trumpets in the future i heard that different lengths effect the torque.
i cut the corsa plate to the right size welded it in and covered around with seam sealer
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also ordered the rose joints for the suspension setup
still need to do this to mine if i decide what im doing lol, did you happen to take any measurements ?
no i took no measurements just a good guess lol it is roughly in the center of the battery tray, so in between the bolt that clamps the battery tray down and the bit of angle at the back that holds the battery in
autoworksnovasport
05-12-11, 09:44 PM
so is the pedal in the right place??
ya its where i want it, it will need cutting as its to long
small update got this 8 way fuse holder still waiting for fuel tank, oil pressure & water temp gauge and pod, should all be here by the end of the week. the father got the new hubs welded up as well so i will get pictures up tomorrow.
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the new suspension setup still needs some work i just threw it together for some pics i will try and collect the threaded inserts i am getting made for my coilovers tomorrow.
i got the gauge pod today, hope i get the gauges and tank tomorrow.
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i got the 2 threaded pipes for the coilovers, i just need to weld on 2 brackets so i can bolt on to the hub.
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autoworksnovasport
16-12-11, 12:13 PM
sorry if im being stupid i dont understand what you doing with the tube?
so your coilover is threaded right to the bottom?? are you using an extra ring to lock it to the tube??
and are the shocks going at the 45degree angle or on the flat back of that metal triangle???
the shocks will be bolted to the flat part not the 45°
i will use lock tight and i have to drill and put a bolt across at the bottom to hold it in place.
the reason why i am using them is because it is the cheapest way, i am 18 so work off a very low budget!
this is what they really look like i still have to drill a hole for the damper adjuster aswell.
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autoworksnovasport
16-12-11, 01:22 PM
so work off a very low budget!
dont we all :d
i see now you have explained how its goin together yes a bolt through the tube were the bottom of the shock eyelet will be is ok depending how far down the tube you want the coilover to sit or are you drilling several holes??? personaly i would get another lock ring (so you would have 3 rings on the bottom of the shock 2 to lock the spring and one to lock the shock in place on the tube then this would also be adjustable! And the threaded part of the tube would act as your mounting point for the shock so in theory you could cut the eyelets off the bottom and wind the shock as far in as you wanted;) just an idea its up to you
i think i will just drill one hole for the bolt to go through the tube and see what it is like. ya another locking ring would be a good idea, i will have a look on ebay and see what i can find.
got the fuel tank aswell today.
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have the hubs nearly finished now just need to drill 2 holes to bolt the coilover onto.
got my oil pressure and water temp gauges aswell.
i have the belt cover in primer still need to sand and prime cam cover then time for paint.
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going to try and get a good bit done over the holidays.
fitted the oil pressure sensor and have the cam belt cover finished.
also got the right cables to connect to the ecu. should have the engine back in next week.
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May i ask, what you haven't remove the oil pressure light switch and screwed the oil pressure sender in, in its place? As the new one you have does pressure and light..
thanks pie!
@ benn, i didnt actually know that that the sender done pressure and light!. i tried to fit it in to the oil pump where the oil light sender is but it i hitting off the block. i will have a look again and see if i can change.
Yeah they do, and oh, looks like the size of the std stuff, but must be bigger.
My aftermarket one hit the block too in the standard location on the pump also, should run fine from there in the block as mine does.
i started to get the geometry setup, my biggest problem is what height to mount the top of the coilover
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ExTrEmeOc
25-12-11, 08:27 AM
Nice build. Keeping an eye on this one :cool:
quick drawing i done on paint! wish i had solidworks. will get more pictures up later once i finish welding
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few more pics, still have to finish the brackets for the bottom of the coilovers
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BRoadGhost
28-12-11, 02:12 PM
It's going to be good...
got the cam cover sprayed today, not perfect but it will do.
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Today's 9 hours work
i got the subframe out and the diff welded in the box, got the engine fully finished and gearbox back on.
done a bit of cutting waste material off the subframe. you would be surprised how light the subframe actually is.
plans for tomorrow are to plug engine in fit exhaust and hope it starts!
got everything fitted to the subframe and bolted into the car.
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The thing I love about this thread is its momentum, it keeps going and the progress is consistent. Its not pretty but its not ment to be, its function over form and I love the fact the diff is welded. Gives it the reel thrash feel, like its built to be used and abused. Fantastic work and well done mate.
thanks Dod good to know that people are are still interested in it, it,s certainly going to be built for abuse! i would of liked to do things different with it but have a low budget and as you said its function over form, the difference between motorsport and road cars. i cant wait to get it finished and have some fun with it.
The Simps
30-12-11, 03:45 PM
Some cracking progress Jonn, loving your work.
thanks mate, i got the engine started today, it took a while to get the oil pump primed, had to fill oil filter and oil cooler with oil then pump oil in the back of the oil pump where the 19mm bolt is. once i got oil pressure i started it. its reading about 75psi when cold.
have the fuel and water tank fitted properly now. have the front brakes and hyd clutch working as well. i will have to get some brake hoses made for the back because the standard ones are a bit short. anyone know where to get some made?
quick question about the timing belt, i had the auto tensioner set perfect when i timmed the engine up but when i turn the engine the arrow moves a small bit is this normal? also the belt overhangs the adjuster by about 1mm?
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grasser26
31-12-11, 12:46 AM
Hi-Two options for brake hoses.1) Bring your short hose into a motor factors and ask if there's another hose with similar fittings but longer 2)From what I can see of your rear suspension you need a flexi hose at the inner end,the rear hub will be going up and down but not steering so could you mount your steel brake pipe near your wishbone mount,connect the flexi to it,more steel pipe connects the flexi to the caliper??
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