nathan_27 are we not worthy of a forsale thread ???

[djbrowney]

though you were going to build this one ?

http://corsasport.co.uk/board/viewthread.php?tid=553453

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120555753160&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT

[burgo]

its so he can start this

http://ngracing.co.uk/index.html

lmfao

[muzzy]

am sorry but its pointless watching this thread it will never get finished i have watched many threads naplam has started and never finished i will put money on this that it will never get finshed whos with me???

Summed it up quite well

[djbrowney]

its so he can start this

http://ngracing.co.uk/index.html

lmfao

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cb8K3jYURFI&feature=related

[Connor]

Best thread ever

[Mazz]

"and we specialise in engine conversions"

Can you fit a ZLET into my Nova please?

[Pete]

even supercars :wtf:

[Nova_Sean]

Lol...he said he was offered 3k on facebook for the nova!!

http://www.facebook.com/nova.c20xe?ref=ts

[Stuart]

lmfao. Sloth mk2

[alan b]

that is ridiculus. on the site he says professional team. he has no lift, no tools, cant even take a nova engine out by himself, they practically fall out! im not one to slag other members, but putting them pictures on a website for a business he's trying to set up is hilarious.

[Mazz]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9TQBlLtuIU

[djbrowney]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9TQBlLtuIU

lol rep for that man lol

[Edd]

I think EVERYBODY knew that he would NEVER get it running.

[Mazz]

ty Mr.Browny lol

[General Baxter]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cb8K3jYURFI&feature=related

rep lol

you can keep the engine, ill have the car, 50p thats whats its worth, do we have a deal lol

[Pistol Pete]

Numpty27 AKA the king of fail lol

[napalm_27]

like i have said to others im not happy about selling it but when it comes down to it i can start all over again once im on my feet and have enough money to back me doing a big project
otherwise theres no point so until then im going to be projectless which i feel is the more sensible approach

[djbrowney]

you pulling out because your balls are to deep in and you dont think you stand the pain any longer buddy lol

[napalm_27]

tbh mate like i said in the pm i could finish it if i didnt have other things to think of and id love to finish it but times are hard and sacrafices are being made
i will do a nova with a z20leh in it but i dont think my time is now
i know what i need i know what has to be done to do it so i will be better prepared next time :thumb:

and to all the comments on the website i didnt write any of that out i left it to the person that designed the site it will be changed when i figure out how to lol

[Mike]

Jesus wept....

[Andy]

OMFG lol @ NG Racing i wouldnt take my scalextric cars to you!!!

[Rysee]

OMFG lol @ NG Racing i wouldnt take my scalextric cars to you!!!
1+ haha

[wwmnw]

lmfao. Sloth mk2

Or is it Sloth MK1.5 :confused:

[Jon_nova1]

Lol...he said he was offered 3k on facebook for the nova!!

http://www.facebook.com/nova.c20xe?ref=ts

wow i have a mutual friend with himlol

[Stuart]

Or is it Sloth MK1.5 :confused:


Dunno, the upgrade might never happen lol

[let_nova]

http://www.migweb.co.uk/forums/members/ngracing-co-uk_55235.html

[muzzy]

lol banned

[Stuart]

because he scammed people on there and then protesteth muchly when he got ridden for it here

[muzzy]

Good start for his business then lol

[Stuart]

tbh I dont think that would matter much given the rest of the hilarity we have seen

[mowgli]

is the vxr's management stand alone because its still in the box???

[Stuart]

wasnt it going to be on megasquirt???!?!?!?!?!? while I support the MS project in terms of what it stands for but NOT for using on a real engine like that lol

[mowgli]

i can't see how fitting a vxr ecu & loom could be that difficult really

[Lee]

http://ngracing.co.uk/NovaVXR.html

Sorry, I burst out laughing at this.


got round to doing some work on the nova again and bolted the f28 to the vxr engine and trial fitted it to see what room i had and what needed doing...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v287/Bottlethroddy/CANNOTDO.png

[mowgli]

maybe it shoul be NFG racing, as in No F***ing Good

[Sloth]

i can't see how fitting a vxr ecu & loom could be that difficult reallyvery. its canbus, its like wiring the space shuttle engine into a nova. ms would have run it fine. there is a vid on youtube of a vxr running on ms and finding 30bhp over std ecu.

[mowgli]

and i'd love to see it try to run the same economy & emissions as the factory management

[Lee]

and i'd love to see it try to run the same economy & emissions as the factory management

Well it wouldn't, but I bet it would be a damn site more economical than a smokey old LET

[let_nova]

but if it was in a nova it wouldnt be built for economy though?

see your point though

[Sloth]

thing is, its the same as fitting any big block to a nova, if i had the spare dollars i'd buy it. its at 1k now on bay...

[MK999]

thing is, its the same as fitting any big block to a nova, if i had the spare dollars i'd buy it. its at 1k now on bay...

I wasn't aware the usual conversion mounts fitted and standard management was usable, good info. :wtf:

[Sloth]

is that sarcasm? if not, then yes, its the same mount points. and bh a ms setup at 400 o get it runnin is cheap.

[mowgli]

so a vxr engine is just a snazzy new label, and its just a turbo ecotec???????
i am shocked

[blue_peg_16v]

what a chancer

[Stuart]

Its not that hard to find extra power on turbo engines because they get pegged for emissions purposes and lifespan given they will be driven by overly keen retards.

MS is a great idea and Mtech have made a good stab at improving it to make it more 'pro' but its still a fair way off being what I'd class as a good reliable ecu for use on anything bar ITB's

oh and sloth have neg rep for being wrong and gay (I dont care how many places you can quote the use of bus from, its NOT how its known/called)

[Sloth]

so a vxr engine is just a snazzy new label, and its just a turbo ecotec???????
i am shocked

yep. suprising huh?
/awaits everyone bolting zleh turbos to ecotecs...

stu, vauxhalls own site words it as canbus, id say they know their own product..... :gayer:

[Stuart]

Marketing folks know jack**** about engieering products ;)

trust me, I use to write the fucking software to communicate over CAN... but oh noes you cant take a fact of realness can you :p
Take a look at the vector, mentor graphics, bosch, and many many other automotive electronics/CAN suppliers ;) engineering > marketing

[Sloth]

meh, its all just wiring.lol

[Stuart]

and the fact that just about everyone is scared of it makes me laugh oh so much... its all piss easy :p

[Southie]

am sorry but its pointless watching this thread it will never get finished i have watched many threads naplam has started and never finished i will put money on this that it will never get finshed whos with me???


why even post if your going to be a ****..?


im not bien a **** i am just stating a point and would like to proven wrong but going by your track record its highly unlikely

bainyboy was right lol

[phazer]

yep. suprising huh?
/awaits everyone bolting zleh turbos to ecotecs...

stu, vauxhalls own site words it as canbus, id say they know their own product..... :gayer:

lol I wouldn't say that different turbo, injectors, pistons, spray bars etc etc was just an ecotec (nor a Z20LET). It's a derivative yes but it's not the same engine.

As for the CAN/CANBus :tard: lol I'm with Stu on this one.

[Sloth]

lol I wouldn't say that different turbo, injectors, pistons, spray bars etc etc was just an ecotec (nor a Z20LET). It's a derivative yes but it's not the same engine.

As for the CAN/CANBus :tard: lol I'm with Stu on this one.

it was meant as a joke. i know there are internal differences.:roll:
btw i do know of a lad running a x20xev with zlet pistons and a zleh turbo on ms.:thumb:

[Edd]

Napalm_27 could of had it running if he had done the easy thing of fitting a z20let loom, ecu, transponder then had that ecu mapped for the larger Vxr afm and injectors, no need to swap turbo etc job done.

[Sloth]

and the fact that just about everyone is scared of it makes me laugh oh so much... its all piss easy :p

indeed, zlet CANbus (<--just for you stu, x ) is 2 wires for signals. the zleh needs the stereo and clocks to run tho. personally, i'd junk the stuff and fit ms/omex/dta/a pidgeon on speed, or whatever you want.:thumb:

[Sloth]

Napalm_27 could of had it running if he had done the easy thing of fitting a z20let loom, ecu, transponder then had that ecu mapped for the larger Vxr afm and injectors, no need to swap turbo etc job done.

correct! this man knows... still has CAN(of worms)bus tho....:d

[phazer]

it was meant as a joke. i know there are internal differences.:roll:
btw i do know of a lad running a x20xev with zlet pistons and a zleh turbo on ms.:thumb:

I figured you might be but it's difficult to know lol

[Stuart]

I figured you might be but it's difficult to know lol

Basically, he "knows" anyone running any form of engine you can even fantasise about on any (mostly pikey) management known to man, and its always going to be making more power than you can jizz at too lol

[General Baxter]

bainyboy was right lol

have to call him baxter Jr, starting projects and never finish them lol

[Southie]

have to call him baxter Jr, starting projects and never finish them lol
Thing is you use a angle grinder beautifully, Numpty27 couldn't handle a electric toothbrush without failing lol

[mowgli]

i remember back in about 1992, when i got hold of a rolled gte, and planned to use the engine... a long line of professional people told me it would not be possible.. so i reverse engineered the loom to work out what it all did, haynes had nothing in the book. oh, and i stuck it in a mk1 astra.

how things progress eh......

[Pete]

has anyone looked at his nova on the bay recently?
its on at 3k :wtf:
19 bids, 12 of them are the same person whether hes winning or not is still putting the price up lol

just me whos a little curious?

[mowgli]

shill selling, its the future..................mike thinks of it as a form of exercise, he's always running things up..... allegedly

[Pete]

i didnt think you could still do it of the same i.p address? :S

[mowgli]

you get someone else to do it

[Angus Closier]

HAHAHAHA this is the most amazing thing iv seen in a while, some people really do make me laugh! and bidding on your own things on ebay is onething doing it so unsubtly is just well lol

[Pistol Pete]

Someone report that ad. lol @ the bids. Any get your mates to bid it up gen?

[Pete]

The Nova (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VAUXHALL-NOVA-VXR-TURBO-2-0-16V-ASTRA-CORSA-CAVALIER_W0QQitemZ120555753160QQcmdZViewItemQQptZA utomobiles_UK?hash=item1c11aecec8)

The bid's (http://offer.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=120555753160)

[Lee]

That is an utter joke. I hope whoever buys it is a ****, because id hate to see a decent person get royally shafted like that.

[Spudly]

Clicky me.... (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VAUXHALL-NOVA-VXR-TURBO-2-0-16V-ASTRA-CORSA-CAVALIER_W0QQitemZ120555753160QQcmdZViewItemQQptZA utomobiles_UK?hash=item1c11aecec8)

[Pete]

Clicky me.... (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VAUXHALL-NOVA-VXR-TURBO-2-0-16V-ASTRA-CORSA-CAVALIER_W0QQitemZ120555753160QQcmdZViewItemQQptZA utomobiles_UK?hash=item1c11aecec8)

Did someone report it lmaoooo lol

[Spudly]

Did someone report it lmaoooo lol



Not me guv..........:roll:

[Lee]

FLOL lol

[Pete]

Not me guv..........:roll:
haha fair play to you, if i knew how to do it i would have done it lol +Rep

[Spudly]

Dont know what youre on about, i dont even have an eghey account so couldnt possibly have been me, although my mum has one lol

[Pete]

haha lol least the moron has had it taken off :)

[Keif]

Napalm failing. No!

He's even been sussed on Astra Owners Club.
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i124/Keif_1974/NapalmFAIL.jpg

[napalm_27]

if it was any of you that reported it then your a prick as it was a genuine person bidding as they rang me asking about it
and no they put that on aoc for no reason at all actually

[Andy]

Lets just say you have somewhat a reputation in the Vauxhall forum world and obviously not a good one lol

[napalm_27]

Lets just say you have somewhat a reputation in the Vauxhall forum world and obviously not a good one lol

couldnt give a **** tbh
but to go and **** up some one selling something on ebay when its met the reserve is just bang out of order
and if it was someone off here being a **** then lets see if they have the bolluxs to own up to it

[Pete]

even if they do, What you goin 2 do about it, ur on a forum ffs...

[napalm_27]

even if they do, What you goin 2 do about it, ur on a forum ffs...

your point being..?
oh and have you forgot the rules..? no txt type :tard:

[Pete]

you have obviously forgot how to sell something in the proper manner...

And if somone owns up to it, all you can physicaly do is tell them there a t**t etc,

[napalm_27]

well sorry but having astra corsa cavalier on the end of a listing when theres bits from them cars isnt listing them incorrectly is it :tard:

[sulphur]

It was me. Now what? :)

[Pete]

No mate your right... but bidding on your own item ( even tho you say you didnt lol ) cmon.. have a bit of self pride

[General Baxter]

It was me. Now what? :)
no it was melol

[John]

Hmmm i smell thread of epic proportions! lol

[sulphur]

no it was melol


Was not! I did it first! :p

[General Baxter]

lies lol

[sulphur]

Im not letting you steal my glory! P!ss off! lollol

[Jack]

http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/files/2009/01/spartacus.jpg

[napalm_27]

well you lot may think its all a laugh and joke but iv just lost out on £3k+ and im not laughing one bit

[General Baxter]

wanna fight about it,

nathan - no one in there right mind would pay over £3k for what you were selling, the shell £50, engine £1000, gearbox £200,

you cant lie, cheat or steal, theres to many spys on the web lol

were just trying to save you from wasting your money on a business that will just fail lol

[John]

well you lot may think its all a laugh and joke but iv just lost out on £3k+ and im not laughing one bit

Not really have you? if the guy has spoken to you on the phone, ring him back up and do a deal with him!

[sulphur]

Tbh mate, I'm actually giggling. :)

[sulphur]

wanna fight about it


Go on then! E-handbags at 10 paces lol

[Jack]

well you lot may think its all a laugh and joke but iv just lost out on £3k+ and im not laughing one bit
No you haven't. Ebay will contact the bidder, confirm their identity and their wish to bid, then reinstate your auction. So you haven't lost a penny.

[napalm_27]

Not really have you? if the guy has spoken to you on the phone, ring him back up and do a deal with him!

well considering i have no clue what number he rung me off and it was the other day i have made numerous calls and recieved numerous calls soo the number is most likely lost now so i cant :mad:

[General Baxter]

Go on then! E-handbags at 10 paces lol

3 - 2 - 1,





SLAP

[John]

No you haven't. Ebay will contact the bidder, confirm their identity and their wish to bid, then reinstate your auction. So you haven't lost a penny.

As long as he was a genuine bidder. ;)

[napalm_27]

No you haven't. Ebay will contact the bidder, confirm their identity and their wish to bid, then reinstate your auction. So you haven't lost a penny.

well iv relisted it now for a day which is what it had so the 57 watchers who ever they were will get a email saying its relisted anyway and anyone genuine will bid on it

[Angus Closier]

Why would the same person bid 3-4 times in a row upping the ammount from 2000-2400-2800-and so on? You have messed up big time matey however if there was another genuine bidder which they must have been really high... you can just contact them and sell off the bay!

[sulphur]

well considering i have no clue what number he rung me off and it was the other day i have made numerous calls and recieved numerous calls soo the number is most likely lost now so i cant :mad:

Why not send the fella a msg on ebay asking him to ring you when he gets the message, or to provide you with a number to ring.

I smell bullshheeet anyway. h4r h4r :p

Baxter, you slap like a pussy. lol

[General Baxter]

does this buyer know, its cash on collection only :p

[sulphur]

Does the buyer know what he's actually buying? lol

[napalm_27]

Why would the same person bid 3-4 times in a row upping the ammount from 2000-2400-2800-and so on? You have messed up big time matey however if there was another genuine bidder which they must have been really high... you can just contact them and sell off the bay!

the reserve was at £3k it was left to get on with it
so i dont see how iv messed up atall :confused:

[Jack]

Why would the same person bid 3-4 times in a row upping the ammount from 2000-2400-2800-and so on?
In his defence, thats called bid probing and I do it all the time. You increment your bidding in small amounts so you avoid putting in high max bid.

[Sloth]

y'know what, if he sells this for 3k, and sets up a sucessfull busines of the back of it, you'll all look like fags.

[General Baxter]

you'll all look like fags.

i am one, so that dont matter :thumb:

[napalm_27]

y'know what, if he sells this for 3k, and sets up a sucessfull busines of the back of it, you'll all look like fags.

they all do anyway
there just a bunch of pricks tbh
think il go looking on ebay for all and any of there listings and either report them or bid like **** so no one else will and piss them off :thumb:

[Angus Closier]

In his defence, thats called bid probing and I do it all the time. You increment your bidding in small amounts so you avoid putting in high max bid.

Ok was not aware that there was a reserve set on this! However it still sounds like bull.....what did they guy say on the phone?

[Angus Closier]

they all do anyway
there just a bunch of pricks tbh
think il go looking on ebay for all and any of there listings and either report them or bid like **** so no one else will and piss them off :thumb:

Im not a prick and i dont look/am not a fag thanks.

Good luck with your sale...your going to need it! :thumb: lol

[General Baxter]

he said,


yo yuf, da nova iz da bomb, iz want dat durbo mota, iz give ya 3k for id noz!

**** me that was hard lol

[napalm_27]

Ok was not aware that there was a reserve set on this! However it still sounds like bull.....what did they guy say on the phone?

he wanted the wheels at first and then i contacted him as there was no feedback on the persons account etc so sent him a message saying about the lack of feedback blah blah and he said oh i rung you about the wheels and decided to bid on the car instead

[Pete]

they all do anyway
there just a bunch of pricks tbh
think il go looking on ebay for all and any of there listings and either report them or bid like **** so no one else will and piss them off :thumb:

feel free, everyone remember to end the auction early keeping the bids :) 09pmg is mine btw

[Sloth]

i am one, so that dont matter :thumb:

aww cuddles darling?:thumb:

[General Baxter]

he wanted the wheels at first and then i contacted him as there was no feedback on the persons account etc so sent him a message saying about the lack of feedback blah blah and he said oh i rung you about the wheels and decided to bid on the car instead


so you do have his contact details?

[Curtoise]

TBH im actually surprised that someone has actually gone and reported this, its abit out of order tbh, yeh bitching and ect is ok on the png forum, but actually going onto ebay and fuking up someones sale, thats taking the piss tbh.
also for all the people taking the piss out of his buisiness fk off lol,
hes trying to sort something out, how can you judge this? and this money could have gone into kick starting it, and thats ****ing about with someones life, all because you dont like him on a forum........
a bit childish if im honest.

also nathan did a good job fitting my new arches so i cant see why other people wouldnt want him to work on there car!

[napalm_27]

so you do have his contact details?

well he was bidding on it so if he wants it he will bid again as ebay sends a email to people watching/bidding about items relisted so il see what happens and then if that fails il ring the person that first asked about coming for it but there in europe some were :confused:

[Edd]

lol lol lol lol lol @ this thread

Comical reading

[General Baxter]

my big wooden spoon is about to come out :p

[Spudly]

Damn ive got no popcorn, such a shame lol

[John]

Damn ive got no popcorn, such a shame lol

lol

[General Baxter]

how the computer business going ?

[brucer]

its a good job the VBOA didnt realise old napalm was a member on here, i dont think they'd have made us a fully fledged member. lol.

[Rysee]

I think i'm seeing both sides of the coin, and both to me are fishy. Regardless of the past or anything do you think people viewing this will think PNG is a fair place? Maybe even some important people that hold an event every year at Billing would frown upon this sort of thing who knows?

Nathan, try your luck with the business, and good luck from me, I hope you do some quality work and make customers happy, the economy needs people taking chances, let's just hope you know what you're doing

[John]

two good points tbf.

[napalm_27]

I think i'm seeing both sides of the coin, and both to me are fishy. Regardless of the past or anything do you think people viewing this will think PNG is a fair place? Maybe even some important people that hold an event every year at Billing would frown upon this sort of thing who knows?

Nathan, try your luck with the business, and good luck from me, I hope you do some quality work and make customers happy, the economy needs people taking chances, let's just hope you know what you're doing

appreciated mate
just think what vboa will be thinking if they see things like this happening after all the hard work has been put in
some people are actually such tools and need to act there age
iv been busting my nuts to try pick my self up from nothing and to decide to sell the nova actually put a big downer on me as i enjoy messing about with it and getting closer to finishing it but when i accept the fate that its come to sell it and its actually going to sell some **** has to go and ruin everything 'for abit of fun and a laugh' :mad::tard:

[Stuart]

y'know what, if he sells this for 3k, and sets up a sucessfull busines of the back of it, you'll all look like fags.


I will actually be pleasant to you if he ever makes a PROPER business out of this, especially with the reputation he has in the vaux world.... Best off going into VAG/BMW/ANYTHING ELSE BUT GM tuning lol

[General Baxter]

do you really think it would be one of us, ebay have there own ways of finding out things




Baxter, you slap like a pussy. lol
oi http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJ2ZFVx6A4Q&feature=related

[napalm_27]

do you really think it would be one of us, ebay have there own ways of finding out things

i do actually due to how people are on here
i wouldnt put it past ANYONE to do it

[sulphur]

do you really think it would be one of us, ebay have there own ways of finding out things



oi http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJ2ZFVx6A4Q&feature=related


LOL! I'd rep you if it'd let me! lol

[Pistol Pete]

couldnt give a **** tbh
but to go and **** up some one selling something on ebay when its met the reserve is just bang out of order
and if it was someone off here being a **** then lets see if they have the bolluxs to own up to it

This has gathered pace since earlier.

I have bollocks. Big ****king shaven ones. Fancy a lick??!! lol Sweetheart. I tried to report it. It looked like abit of dodgy bidding going on. Sue me. Couldnt find a reason under the drop downs, so didnt. I then posted on here.

Bovvered. No. Your reputation has followed you to various forums it would appear.

[napalm_27]

I have bollocks. Big ****king shaven ones. Fancy a lick??!! lol Sweetheart. I tried to report it. It looked like abit of dodgy bidding going on. Sue me. Couldnt find a reason under the drop downs, so didnt. I then posted on here.

Bovvered. No. Your reputation has followed you to various forums it would appear.

and who gives you the right to assume anything.?
was absolutely nothing to do with you was it.?
its people like you that **** things up for others

[Stuart]

See what Regal have had to do, they moved to VW/BMW tuning because no one in the vaux world trusted them anymore... looks like you may need to run that route before you even start lol

[Pistol Pete]

and who gives you the right to assume anything.?
was absolutely nothing to do with you was it.?
its people like you that **** things up for others

It looked dodgy IMO. Given your history (be honest) can you blame me/us.

Anyway, like i said, i tried...didnt succeed. Dry your eyes.

[napalm_27]

It looked dodgy IMO. Given your history (be honest) can you blame me/us.

Anyway, like i said, i tried...didnt succeed. Dry your eyes.

do you even know anything about what happened..?
as alot of people like to bandwagon alot on forums
if not this is what happened

i broke my cavalier for parts as i blew the gearbox
sold parts recieved money
spent the money thinking id get more from other parts so i could send everything out at once
i was wrong the garage got boarded up everyone started moaning
(to which i dont blame them as i was taking awhile to send things off)
i then couldnt sell anything else got stuck with no money and lots of parts to send off
jamie d off mig bailed me out which im very grateful for and STILL owe him a massive thankyou and favour/pennies
even tho he was just getting the parts for the people instead of helping me out
i was young and a total tosser for it i learned my lesson and have corrected my ways
so if you and any others want to carry on with the oh your history blah blah remarks its all there and nothing to state i cant build a car/engine what ever
it was sending off parts!

[Pistol Pete]

http://www.chevroncars.com/learn/img-old/vinyl-record.jpg

This is a record. Please change yours.

[sulphur]

You don't get 7 red blobs for a simple mistake. :(

[mowgli]

nathan, you only have to shag one sheep to be called a sheep shagger...........

[napalm_27]

You don't get 7 red blobs for a simple mistake. :(

actually stuart was the reson for the blobs as he can put silly amounts on at a time lol
and rep is abit of fun nothing serious people give me neg rep like they would give you +rep so im not to bother tbh

[Pistol Pete]

Flol...

[General Baxter]

You don't get 7 red blobs for a simple mistake. :(

i did, i said no to stu one night :(

[sulphur]

i did, i said no to stu one night :(

You must've gobbled like a champion turkey to get all those green uns. lol

[Lee]

Starting a business is all about reputation and word of mouth. Take Chris Astley. He worked his knackers off at the start, and got himself a dman good reputation for quality and value for money. His business grew and for whatever reason, the customer service side started to slip and a lot of instances popped up on forums where people were not getting any information from him for missing parts. I doubt even for a second Chris was doing this deliberately, but once word spreads that your taking money and then vanishing for months on end, people stop using you, and eventually the business collapsed. Again, I am only speculating that this was the reason, or even a factor, but it cant have helped.

Napalm, despite your pleadings, look at the evidence? You have somehow made pretty much every vauxhall forum on planet earth either ban you completely or restrict your selling abilities in some way, you start projects and then fail to complete them (for whatever reason) and you want to start a business tuning vauxhalls????

Chris made it clear he had too much on his hands with work and his personal life, but someone buying a clutch kit and then having to wait for it for 4 months with no word and no one picking up the phone doesnt care if his home life is hectic. its a business at the end of the day.

You couldnt finish the VXR for other reasons I understand (as per above) Fair enough. But im afraid the same thing applies mate, if you want to build a reputation to run a business from, a load of shonkly half assed attempts at engine swaps and a swarm of people who claim to have been ripped off isnt exactly a stable platform.

As for the ebay thing, I tend to agree that if it was reported by someone on here, then it was mightily uncalled for HOWEVER thats not to say i dont have the opinion that whoever comes to spend money (that could buy a reasonably tidy M3) on a VXR nova, which is in fact, just a nova shell with a VXR engine (minus the turbo??!!) sat on a pallet next to it, is going to want to punch you in the face.

But at the same time, if someone pays you for it, and they dont punch you in the face, then you are the worlds most amazing salesman, and if i start a business in the future where I need one, ill be knocking on your door!

[Stuart]

do you even know anything about what happened..?
as alot of people like to bandwagon alot on forums
if not this is what happened

i broke my cavalier for parts as i blew the gearbox
sold parts recieved money
spent the money thinking id get more from other parts so i could send everything out at once
i was wrong the garage got boarded up everyone started moaning
(to which i dont blame them as i was taking awhile to send things off)
i then couldnt sell anything else got stuck with no money and lots of parts to send off
jamie d off mig bailed me out which im very grateful for and STILL owe him a massive thankyou and favour/pennies
even tho he was just getting the parts for the people instead of helping me out
i was young and a total tosser for it i learned my lesson and have corrected my ways
so if you and any others want to carry on with the oh your history blah blah remarks its all there and nothing to state i cant build a car/engine what ever
it was sending off parts!



'you were young' it was only last year/18months FFS You dont get 'old' in a year lol

[General Baxter]

'you were young' it was only last year/18months FFS You dont get 'old' in a year lol

you bloody well do, i feel like on oap at the mo lol

talking about rep, who whats an engine conversion doing, cable ties and hammers ahoy :p

[mowgli]

i feel like on oap at the mo lol


theres loads of them to choose from in atherstone, just go for a walk....

[napalm_27]

'you were young' it was only last year/18months FFS You dont get 'old' in a year lol

sorry..?
a year..?
i havnt had the cavalier for 2 years more or less

[Stuart]

http://www.migweb.co.uk/forums/off-topic-discussions/376478-got-my-garage-today-found-like.html

23rd oct 2010. 18 months :p but it still goes, you dont get old/wise/maturer in that time.

[Pistol Pete]

lol i remember that thread. And him getting a roasting.

And this one lol....http://www.migweb.co.uk/forums/car-talk/374043-me-having-fun-my-cav-before-i-broke-f18.html

[napalm_27]

Starting a business is all about reputation and word of mouth. Take Chris Astley. He worked his knackers off at the start, and got himself a dman good reputation for quality and value for money. His business grew and for whatever reason, the customer service side started to slip and a lot of instances popped up on forums where people were not getting any information from him for missing parts. I doubt even for a second Chris was doing this deliberately, but once word spreads that your taking money and then vanishing for months on end, people stop using you, and eventually the business collapsed. Again, I am only speculating that this was the reason, or even a factor, but it cant have helped.

Napalm, despite your pleadings, look at the evidence? You have somehow made pretty much every vauxhall forum on planet earth either ban you completely or restrict your selling abilities in some way, you start projects and then fail to complete them (for whatever reason) and you want to start a business tuning vauxhalls????

Chris made it clear he had too much on his hands with work and his personal life, but someone buying a clutch kit and then having to wait for it for 4 months with no word and no one picking up the phone doesnt care if his home life is hectic. its a business at the end of the day.

You couldnt finish the VXR for other reasons I understand (as per above) Fair enough. But im afraid the same thing applies mate, if you want to build a reputation to run a business from, a load of shonkly half assed attempts at engine swaps and a swarm of people who claim to have been ripped off isnt exactly a stable platform.

As for the ebay thing, I tend to agree that if it was reported by someone on here, then it was mightily uncalled for HOWEVER thats not to say i dont have the opinion that whoever comes to spend money (that could buy a reasonably tidy M3) on a VXR nova, which is in fact, just a nova shell with a VXR engine (minus the turbo??!!) sat on a pallet next to it, is going to want to punch you in the face.

But at the same time, if someone pays you for it, and they dont punch you in the face, then you are the worlds most amazing salesman, and if i start a business in the future where I need one, ill be knocking on your door!

i know exactly what your on about and yer i started off on a bad foot and havnt really done much to correct my wrongs but i fully intend to do something about it and get some sort of base to what i am wanting to achieve whether its involved in forums or not
chris was very unfortunate and made the mistake of trying to go at it alone when he had to much for one person to handle but thats been discussed and isnt relavent atall

[mowgli]

i definitely didn't report it... anyone serious enough about cars would not have bid silly money on it... it was probably the dad of the kid who was bidding on it......

i did report one once. some idiot was selling a 1.4 saloon with a cheap carbar turbo sticker as a genuine turbo nova & the bidding was going crazy, so i felt duty bound to report it before it got messy.. the seller sent me a nasty message & i sent him my reasons why..

but i also regularly send messages to people who have listed stuff wrongly, advising them to correct it so they can sell the item.. its amazing how many people can't spell

[General Baxter]

i
i did report one once. some idiot was selling a 1.4 saloon with a cheap carbar turbo sticker as a genuine turbo nova & the bidding was going crazy, so i felt duty bound to report it before it got messy.. the seller sent me a nasty message & i sent him my reasons why..


i remember that lol 1.4 carb turbo as std lol

[Lee]

thats been discussed and isnt relavent atall

Im afraid it is. its about reputation, one of the most important things in business. I run my own, so i know.

[napalm_27]

Im afraid it is. its about reputation, one of the most important things in business. I run my own, so i know.

i ment the bit about chris astley mate

[mowgli]

Im afraid it is. its about reputation, one of the most important things in business. I run my own, so i know.

its a fact that it takes 20 years to build a good reputation, and about 20 seconds for a bad one

[napalm_27]

its a fact that it takes 20 years to build a good reputation, and about 20 seconds for a bad one

do 100% agree with that bad news always travels quicker and all that

[auzzy2000]

Im afraid it is. its about reputation, one of the most important things in business. I run my own, so i know.tis very true.your name goes before you.Napalm you are famous and i think you should change your line of business!!!:thumb:

[Stuart]

Reputation is EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!
I worked at a multinational company which makes very good products and is very flexible with the customer on changes etc when others in that field arent, but some folks in the customer community didnt like said company so managed to get the products removed from vehicles, and in doing so it puts concerns from other vehicle lines and eventually all products went at that customer :( All on reputation and nothing to do with the product

[napalm_27]

tis very true.your name goes before you.Napalm you are famous and i think you should change your line of business!!!:thumb:


or name lol

[mowgli]

tis very true.your name goes before you.Napalm you are famous and i think you should change your line of business!!!:thumb:

or come up with a user name that isn't linked to genocide in south east asia

[auzzy2000]

or come up with a user name that isn't linked to genocide in south east asiaflollollollol

[auzzy2000]

or name loljust stick to scrap metal!!

[John]

wasn't it napalm that nuked his mums drainpipe? lol

[General Baxter]

and the window lol

[mowgli]

thats the one....

[mowgli]

for the uninitiated, napalm is basically burning vaseline......

[napalm_27]

or come up with a user name that isn't linked to genocide in south east asia

yer there is that
but seems like things have stuck around for to long even after trying to make what was wrong right
im not giving up what i do atall as i enjoy it and it earns money at the same time but all i got pissed off about was the fact that the listing was either reported by someone (be it some one from here or not) or ebay being gay
when it was sat at £3k which is a considerable amount of money to loose out on :cry:

[mowgli]

the buyer contacted you didn't they?? did they offer a decent deal???

[muzzy]

If all was above board then you shouldn't have anything to worry about with regards to your Ebay listing.

[auzzy2000]

:thumb:
the buyer contacted you didn't they?? did they offer a decent deal???

[napalm_27]

well iv contacted the bloke from abroad as he wanted to pick it up next week if it didnt sell so going to see what happens
and cba with the original bidder as not sure if he was a time waster or not
if that all fails it will be sold in bits

[Edd]

Here's a idea, why not finish the Vxr conversion then sell it ?
Because at the moment going by your rep your not going to make any cash from doing engine conversions, setting your old dears house on fire springs to mind as a reason not to let your near a car.

You would have more luck selling snow to a Eskimo lol

[Ricky G]

napalm i bought the bucket seat off you a little while ago, if you break i'll take the shell and wheels for the right price.

[napalm_27]

Here's a idea, why not finish the Vxr conversion then sell it ?
Because at the moment going by your rep your not going to make any cash from doing engine conversions, setting your old dears house on fire springs to mind as a reason not to let your near a car.

You would have more luck selling snow to a Eskimo lol

i wasnt the actual cause to the fire the so called mate with a 9' cutting disc near the petrol tank was
and if i had the money to id be the first one to do it but i havnt got the money to finish it

[napalm_27]

napalm i bought the bucket seat off you a little while ago, if you break i'll take the shell and wheels for the right price.

what bucket seats were they iv sold a few lol

[auzzy2000]

Im sorry nathan but i aint heard so much bullsh£t in ages!!have you the same skin as a RHINO

[General Baxter]

Im sorry nathan but i aint heard so much bullsh£t in ages!!have you the same skin as a RHINO

i have, sloths a close contender lol

[napalm_27]

Im sorry nathan but i aint heard so much bullsh£t in ages!!have you the same skin as a RHINO
what you on about lol
the window..?
that really wasnt my fault lol

[Ricky G]

what bucket seats were they iv sold a few lol
the blue one, i had the transit recovery. so.....how much for the rolling shell and wheels?

[djbrowney]

every one is call you a c u n t and you dont even seem offended lol

[napalm_27]

the blue one, i had the transit recovery. so.....how much for the rolling shell and wheels?

orite
il let you know
number is still the same if youve got it

[Curtoise]

every one is call you a c u n t and you dont even seem offended lol
its because its online lol and they dont know him, so theres not much point in being offended

[djbrowney]

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i70/djbrowney/KeyboardWarriors.jpg

[mowgli]

browney, what you are saying is that because i've never met him, i can't have a valid opinion, and am just a keyboard warrior......

i'll meet anyone face to face... i stand by what i say.

[Pete]

i didnt report it, i posted on here because it looked a little dodgy to me, so i wanted to know what other people said about the matter.

And Mowgli you know where i live :P face to face? + a cuppa

[Nova_Sean]

Flol at the mig link


for all the chav haters ther wernt any at first cause all my mates are emo really we were jus bein lads really

[Hobbit]

right all jokes aside, it was me that reported it.

[napalm_27]

right all jokes aside, it was me that reported it.

erm why.?

[Spudly]

right all jokes aside, it was me that reported it.



Lies, it was me actually :p

[Hobbit]

Lies, it was me actually :p

dont try and steal my thunder potatoe boy :d

[Edd]

right all jokes aside, it was me that reported it.
+rep fooking hate people that 'bid up' stuff on eBay, more people should report stuff like this.

[Spudly]

dont try and steal my thunder potatoe boy :d



Fcuk you cheeky cow give me my thunders back, and my rep :thumb:

[napalm_27]

i dont even see what you find funny tbh
as who ever did report it if it was reported has now ****ed my life up from moving on to do what i want to do

[napalm_27]

+rep fooking hate people that 'bid up' stuff on eBay, more people should report stuff like this.

it wasnt even bid up you **** it was a genuine bidder that hit the reserve

[Hobbit]

Fcuk you cheeky cow give me my thunders back, and my rep :thumb:

ummm....



NO :p

[Spudly]

ummm....



NO :p



Ballbag...........:cry:

[brainsnova]

someone reported my ebay listing for calling the last highest bidder that never payed a ****

[Rysee]

If you report an auction does Ebay just that the smackdown and pull the auction or do they take a look at the IP address' of the bidders and other pieces of evidence?

[Bubba]

im dont log on for 3 days and i miss all this?????

[bai1ey]

in naplams defence (remember he owed me money for a long time never got it) i looked at it one day and it was at 3100 and then about a hour later it was at 3000 i must admit it does seem abit excessive tho 3000 for like has been said a nova shell and a engine not evan in situe

[ste porter]

just want to point something out that after reading through it all hasnt been raised

napalm have you ever bid on something and your sure that the owner is bidding it up?
do you know how frustraiting that is?
had it ocured to you that if there was someone genuinly bidding on it and he/she felt that you as the owner of the item (not saying it was) was bidding it up. do you not think that they may have got mad with it and reported it?

if i was bidding on it and i thought the owner was bidding it up there self to make me pay more than i would have done i would report it wouldnt most people?

Another point to take into consideration how many people nation wide will have come across you on allsorts of forums maybe even been stung by you and decided that they would report it?

as said before you need to treat a rep as your shadow you may not always see it but it will follow you round for life my friend

i feel i have a fairly good rep in the vauxhall world and feel im fairly gened up and as some will tell you such as bailey ect my work is second to none and im in a brilliant position to start up on my own but i havent and i havent for to reasons

1. if your life is in the hands of your buisness it takes 1 mistake to ruin your life

2. the vauxhall tunning industry is drying up!

want my advice lay low for a few months reapear on all the sites as a new member sort your self out start fresh with a new atatuide and dont screw anybody over because while you have a rep such as yours that follows you round you are going to get nowhere in a cut throat world that we live in

[brainsnova]

and request a new ip address

[napalm_27]

just want to point something out that after reading through it all hasnt been raised

napalm have you ever bid on something and your sure that the owner is bidding it up?
do you know how frustraiting that is?
had it ocured to you that if there was someone genuinly bidding on it and he/she felt that you as the owner of the item (not saying it was) was bidding it up. do you not think that they may have got mad with it and reported it?

if i was bidding on it and i thought the owner was bidding it up there self to make me pay more than i would have done i would report it wouldnt most people?

Another point to take into consideration how many people nation wide will have come across you on allsorts of forums maybe even been stung by you and decided that they would report it?

as said before you need to treat a rep as your shadow you may not always see it but it will follow you round for life my friend

i feel i have a fairly good rep in the vauxhall world and feel im fairly gened up and as some will tell you such as bailey ect my work is second to none and im in a brilliant position to start up on my own but i havent and i havent for to reasons

1. if your life is in the hands of your buisness it takes 1 mistake to ruin your life

2. the vauxhall tunning industry is drying up!

want my advice lay low for a few months reapear on all the sites as a new member sort your self out start fresh with a new atatuide and dont screw anybody over because while you have a rep such as yours that follows you round you are going to get nowhere in a cut throat world that we live in

thing is all the bids were under the reserve so why it would bother some one if there bid was high but hadnt hit the reserve i dont know
but owell
may just sell the engine and buy a c20let for ease side of things
cba with any of this ****e no more as its just making me feel down and depressed
so im really not bothered no more

[MK999]

If you cant afford it, that seems sensible, if you're serious about starting this business (and tbh I wouldn't leave anything with you myself atm) I'd rebuild it, to a high quality, as a C20LET to showcase the fact you can actually do the work, sticker it up with your company name and take it shows with some business cards etc. Once you have a few relatively simple conversions in use the money to finish a vxr as that will undoubtably get you work in. Noticably turning yourself round is respectable enough to attract attention alone imo, moreso than reinventing yourself as a newcomer, couple of your mates from the classy girls thread at shows might help though lol

Personally I don't see it flying, but prove me wrong :)

[napalm_27]

If you cant afford it, that seems sensible, if you're serious about starting this business (and tbh I wouldn't leave anything with you myself atm) I'd rebuild it, to a high quality, as a C20LET to showcase the fact you can actually do the work, sticker it up with your company name and take it shows with some business cards etc. Once you have a few relatively simple conversions in use the money to finish a vxr as that will undoubtably get you work in. Noticably turning yourself round is respectable enough to attract attention alone imo, moreso than reinventing yourself as a newcomer, couple of your mates from the classy girls thread at shows might help though lol

Personally I don't see it flying, but prove me wrong :)


appreciate that mate its actually nice for some one to say look i wouldnt now but if you proved me wrong i would later on
iv got a person wanting to come look at the nova so it may still sell yet but if it does i may just go buy another nova to do a 'quick' build on to 'sticker' up as you say and il document it properly on the site and on forums take it to shows like you say
and yer no point in hiding from the fact i ****ed up a while back
but i was actually talking to jamie d last nite and sorted a few wrongs out :thumb:
so i feel much better with myself for doing so

[Southie]

http://i345.photobucket.com/albums/p379/SOUTHIE01/Smilie%20GIFs/smiley4032.gif

[mowgli]

http://cache3.asset-cache.net/xc/3380992.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=45B0EB3381F7834D61715C0B6456A79D88F012B7E2AAA79D 11D40A26B3E28636

that's the pleasantries done with..................

[Pete]

Well, i totaly agree with MK999, if you can do a nice conversion and sticker it up with ur company name etc and take it to shows and people appreciate the work that has gone into it, theres nothing to say they wont come to you in the future. I dont exactly know how to do engine conversions and if i had the money to let someone else do one to the high standards i expect id like to see the previous work of the person who is doing it.

Like i say tho, i didnt report it, did seem fishy to me hence why i said about it on here. but i do wish you luck if you manage to get the business + reputation going good

[napalm_27]

Well, i totaly agree with MK999, if you can do a nice conversion and sticker it up with ur company name etc and take it to shows and people appreciate the work that has gone into it, theres nothing to say they wont come to you in the future. I dont exactly know how to do engine conversions and if i had the money to let someone else do one to the high standards i expect id like to see the previous work of the person who is doing it.

Like i say tho, i didnt report it, did seem fishy to me hence why i said about it on here. but i do wish you luck if you manage to get the business + reputation going good

i dont mean to have ago at people on here if its not them at fault but see were im coming from it if was you in the situation
i apologise to anyone that got the receiving end of my temper but its just that taking the piss out of some one thats lost a fair amount of money is abit ott in my eyes but hey we will see what happens and go from there :thumb:

[Pete]

i dont mean to have ago at people on here if its not them at fault but see were im coming from it if was you in the situation
i apologise to anyone that got the receiving end of my temper but its just that taking the piss out of some one thats lost a fair amount of money is abit ott in my eyes but hey we will see what happens and go from there :thumb:

i know what you mean, and if it was reported by me posting it on here then all i can do is apologies.
and if it was a genuine bidder then i know it can make a dramatic effect on your life.

so i do understand why your mad about it. but i wish you luck with the business and if you get the rep behind you then i dont see why it would go wrong :thumb:

[napalm_27]

well iv got some one localish (bedfordshire area) wanting to come look at it just waiting for a call to arrange it so it may still sell yet
but il be buying something else to do
most likely a cheapish decent nova and xe just to make a portfolio up from and then sticker it up and sell it
then do the same again and again which in my eyes will either work or it wont so il see what happens
and support from club members would be appreciated instead of bitchyness :thumb:

[Pete]

i dont realy know you well enough to have a feedback on you,
but yeah it always helps having the club to help but that relies on your reputation dont it?
like a few people have said its all about Rep

But your plans seem a good idea, if you XE some nova's and then sell them on at a nice profit for yourself and make sure there dont to the standards people expect, when someone's on a forum is on about getting someone to do an engine conversion the word of mouth will go around that you did a good job on someone's XE and they hopefuly the person who wants it done should get in contact with you. imo anyway.

[Sloth]

nath, bit of advice. cheap simple clean conversions are the best way to get noticed. xe's into corsa's, 1.6 8v into 1.2 corsas and novas, 2.0 8v into anything. the more you do the easier it gets. and collect stockpiles of bits. oh and upullit have some decent cheap engines available. :thumb:

best of luck bud.:cool:

[napalm_27]

nath, bit of advice. cheap simple clean conversions are the best way to get noticed. xe's into corsa's, 1.6 8v into 1.2 corsas and novas, 2.0 8v into anything. the more you do the easier it gets. and collect stockpiles of bits. oh and upullit have some decent cheap engines available. :thumb:

best of luck bud.:cool:

il have to look into some stock mate lol
i sold all my 'stock' last year which would have come in handy now lol

[Stuart]

you havent lost money till you sell something for less than you paid for it ;) first note of profit and loss accounts lol

[Ben]

you havent lost money till you sell something for less than you paid for it ;) first note of profit and loss accounts lol

Quite right people annoy the fook out of me with houses, they pay £200k they get it valued and its now £180k and they say ohhh we lost £20k on our house,

NO YOU HAVENT AS YOU HAVE NOT SOLD IT YET YOU FOOKING TARDS!

[Keif]

Quite right people annoy the fook out of me with houses, they pay £200k they get it valued and its now £180k and they say ohhh we lost £20k on our house,

NO YOU HAVENT AS YOU HAVE NOT SOLD IT YET YOU FOOKING TARDS!
Yep, your equity has dropped, but you've not lost money.

Buying, "half" completing a engine conversion then having it up for sale, isn't what i'd call an investment like a house would be. lol

[Ben]

Yep, your equity has gone down, but buying, "half" completing a engine conversion then having it up for sale, isn't what i'd call an investment. lol

Fair point lol

[dj_wudgey]

lmfao. Sloth mk2

fpmsl!

[MK999]

appreciate that mate its actually nice for some one to say look i wouldnt now but if you proved me wrong i would later on

Nah I still wouldn't pay someone to do what I can do at 4 times the cost just so I can wonder which bolts they've missed lol

[MattBrown]

The problem with the "Vaux tuning"

Is the chavs, a friend of mine owns MW performance, he has been building vauxhalls since he was 15, running c20xe engines back in the 90's etc

He doesnt touch sh!t now, anything older than a z20let he doesnt do, he has a lad in there doing the xe and c20let conversions, as he is sick of the problems, and chavs smashing them off the limiters, and demanding a re-fund!

To be honest nathan, paying £3k a year for insurace to do the work, then paying rent and rates and elecy and gas on a unit, because you obviously cant work from home doing this, is it feasable? A good unit is £10k easy a year

Say you charge £300 to put a xe into a corsa, its about 6/10 hours work depending upon the type of corsa, so thats one a day, youll have to do 20 of them to cover your bills, then the £10k needs paying?


I have thought long and hard, spun a calculator round the figures 100's of times

The bottom line is, go for it, but dont borrow money to do it, because if it all goes wrong, then youll have nothing, and owe money!

Good luck:thumb:

[Ben]

a friend of mine owns MW performance, he has been building vauxhalls since he was 15, running c20xe engines back in the 90's etc

never heard of them, link?