strangest engine fitted to a nova?

[rallypvc]

whats the strangest you've seen? pics if pos just a bit of fun:)

[General Baxter]

1L lol

[rallypvc]

lol

[smithy64]

lol at general baxter

[Ernie]

a gsi/gte with an 8v.
very rare to see one of then nowadays lol

[L14MNP]

LC lol

[Mike]

a B16 motor.

[rallypvc]

i can see i've opened a real can of worms here! lol

[AlexW]

A human, puts out the same power as a 1.0 nova i hear.

[rallypvc]

got any pics of the one with the b16?

[L14MNP]

Didn't the gearbox hang out the side on the VTEC'd one, or was that a D series?

[Mike]

Didn't the gearbox hang out the side on the VTEC'd one, or was that a D series?

Yep lol lol lol looked fab in the bay tho :cool: just would never ever work lol unless a Nova bay was a foot wider.

[Spudly]

A common one is suzuki swift GTi 1300 16v engines, iirc a lad on here did one and ive seen a few go on gaybay!

[rallypvc]

i've put a b16b civic type r vtec in mine no gearbox issues tho

[MK999]

the Audi V8/V10/whatever it was that was fitted in the boot of some sort of nova and just needed like, fitting, wiring up, mounting, driveshafts and a load of fab work before it would work, it was just about finished though!

[Angus Closier]

i've put a b16b civic type r vtec in mine no gearbox issues tho


Pics or gtfo!!!

[General Baxter]

this gay lardo thing lol

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a191/baxters83/Picture007-2.jpg

[L14MNP]

Pics or gtfo!!!

+1000

Sloth owns the most outlandish conversions on here, I'm sure we all agree.

[rallypvc]

i'll get one sorted not got em on this comp

i sorted the gearbox issue by fabricating my own steering rack ends and extended bottom arms its now 55mm wider @ front and 100mm wider @rear over standard

[Nobby]

i smell bull****

[rallypvc]

i'll post pic tomorrow when i've been to my pc

[Mike]

i've put a b16b civic type r vtec in mine no gearbox issues tho

So how did you overcome the fact that you cant get the front pass side hub,strut assembly, brake assembly & road wheel on as the gearbox is right in the way of the tie bar mount, which the lower arm mounts to, no lower arm, no mounting of hub.?

The last & only one I saw, the aforementioned problem stopped any further progress.

[L14MNP]

I look forward to pics. I hope you never killed an EK9 for this though? lol

[Angus Closier]

i'll get one sorted not got em on this comp

I think we have all heard that from sloth hundreds of times lol


i sorted the gearbox issue by fabricating my own steering rack ends and extended bottom arms its now 55mm wider @ front and 100mm wider @rear over standard

Would be nice to see:thumb:

[rallypvc]

i;ll get a pic on tomorrow when i've been back on my pc

[draper]

subscribed

[L14MNP]

subscribed
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[boyle_46]

looks a job for barry scott here folks . . . bang and the bullsh1tters gone

[MK999]

looks a job for barry scott here folks . . . bang and the bullsh1tters gone

http://www.elitecarcare.co.uk/images/AGBSRepw.jpg
lol

[craig green]

Dont Vtec engines (or maybe all hondas) rotate in the opposite direction to most engines (spin backwards)? So you cant use other types of gearboxes eg F20. You'll end up fending off 8000rpm's of Vtec torque heading backwards.

[Mike]

Dont Vtec engines (or maybe all hondas) rotate in the opposite direction to most engines (spin backwards)? So you cant use other types of gearboxes eg F20. You'll end up fending off 8000rpm's of Vtec torque heading backwards.

Erm pass, but if its true, the image in my head is piss funny lol lol lol

[Spudly]

Erm pass, but if its true, the image in my head is piss funny lol lol lol



Thats why honda engines have the gearbox on the left hand side, they run the opposite way to right hand boxed engines:thumb:

[Mike]

Thats why honda engines have the gearbox on the left hand side, they run the opposite way to right hand boxed engines:thumb:

Aaaah that would explain it then lol never really gave that much thought actually come to think of it!

[blue_peg_16v]

not seen owt that different realy as spud said suzuki 1300 16v are common with the rally boys

[muzzy]

Was there not a Nova in the projects section fitted with a CRX engine or similar a few years ago, I'm pretty sure the engine was "bolted in" and that was the end of that project.

[MK999]

Was there not a Nova in the projects section fitted with a CRX engine or similar a few years ago, I'm pretty sure the engine was "bolted in" and that was the end of that project.

That'd be the one mentioned I believe, I've not seen 2 or more.

[L14MNP]

Aye they do rotate anti-clockwise. Didn't a guy have a D16 running in a Nova? I'm sure he put up some crap pics then I found more and a video of it driving. :/

Gonna be interesting to see these pics. lol

[muzzy]

Until proved otherwise, I am in the non believer corner.

[bai1ey]

is there not a cosworth powered one

[muzzy]

is there not a cosworth powered one

Yeah it was on here and also for sale on Gumtree.

[L14MNP]

Aye, but it's a chopped down Sierra with a Nova body in essence lol.

[craig green]

is there not a cosworth powered one

Aye.

Cant say I recall any bike engined/space framed efforts yet.

[napalm_27]

aye many people have missed colins cossie powered 4x4 nova

[muzzy]

Aye.

Cant say I recall any bike engined/space framed efforts yet.

That would be interesting to see done.

[daverobson]

Aye.

Cant say I recall any bike engined/space framed efforts yet.

have always wanted too see this, always comes into the back of my mind when i think about the nove. But will never happen as i cant weld, arnt clever enough, and cant afford it :(

[craig green]

they arent fast anyway.

[L14MNP]

Austins probably comes closest?

[blue_peg_16v]

there was a guy that came on either here or pvg claiming he had a v8 in the back of a nova but the pictures he posted were very obscure and didnt show that the car was a nova so we deemed it bull **** till we got more pics none ever materialized

[ste porter]

cough cough space frame? i may know of 1 in the making

[Spudly]

Aye, but it's a chopped down Sierra with a Nova body in essence lol.



Cough cough, escort iirc :p

[L14MNP]

I'm willing to stick my neck out and say it's Escort Cos running gear (adapted to fit) and a Sierra donated the floor pan. I'm probably wrong though. lol

[John]

wasn't there a sknony looking mk2 with a honda engine in?

[napalm_27]

I'm willing to stick my neck out and say it's Escort Cos running gear (adapted to fit) and a Sierra donated the floor pan. I'm probably wrong though. lol
sierra floor pan
escort cossie engine and running gear

[alan b]

you people are all gay, does no1 remember this one?
phil suttons v8, i duno if it was ever finished, but the engine is in that bay!
http://www.pngclub.com/images/car_images/1654big.jpg

http://www.pngclub.com/forum/viewfeaturecar.php?ref=1654

[Andy]

i remember it,was trying to post that but internets failed lol

[bazil]

Aye.

Cant say I recall any bike engined/space framed efforts yet.

years ago i saw a rally preped nova for sale in motoring news (thats what it was called before it became motorsport news) with a suzuki hyabusa (sp) 1300 engine in it:wtf:

[craig green]

I'd say the oddest engines to find in a Nova would be either due to it having next to no power ie a 1.0 12v, a crazy daft large engine like V10 or straight 6 (LC's 36GET) or similar powerplant to something that is already offered by GM, ie this Cosworth V6 from a Scorpio.

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c323/turbocraig/ghettopickup2.jpg

The other strange conversion I can think of would be a Chevette or mk2 Astra 1200 OHV engine, basically a bored & stroked 1L pushrod lump.

[bazil]

I'd say the oddest engines to find in a Nova would be either due to it having next to no power ie a 1.0 12v, a crazy daft large engine like V10 or straight 6 (LC's 36GET) or similar powerplant to something that is already offered by GM, ie this Cosworth V6 from a Scorpio.

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c323/turbocraig/ghettopickup2.jpg

The other strange conversion I can think of would be a Chevette or mk2 Astra 1200 OHV engine, basically a bored & stroked 1L pushrod lump.

im sooooooooooo glad my dad cant see this lol he's wanted to do a v6 ford engine into a nova for years, WITH MY FOOKIN NOVA!!!

[mayhem]

3.0 12v straight six from a senator, and a R1 engine. but the last one was never finished. was more a low budget fun thing.

[SR-Rally]

not a nova but thought you'd all like this :)

darrens chevette raly car with honda s2000 engine. think he said it was tad over 250bhp :p
http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/ss177/sr-rally/chev.jpg

http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/ss177/sr-rally/chevettengine.jpg

best put one up of a nova :)

martyns 1400 16v. Scary how fast it is. very high spec car
http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/ss177/sr-rally/mn.jpg

[SR-Rally]

sorry about quality i used my phone :s

[craig green]

Mmm nice VTEC installation in the Chevette.

I took some pics of a VTEC powered poverty spec Peugeot 309 sleeper some time ago.

[craig green]

sorry about quality i used my phone :s

Inlet on the 14XE looks intriguing. ;)

[L14MNP]

I took some pics of a VTEC powered poverty spec Peugeot 309 sleeper some time ago.

Not this one then. lol
http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac157/itsallac0nspiracy/Random/vtec309.jpg
Was a local build IIRC.

[craig green]

No, unless it went on to become that, but I still think not.

[SR-Rally]

yeah i like the manifold on the chevette the most, darrens brother has a c20xe stage nova but is thinking about putting s2000 engine in now :s we'll see if it ever gets done

[craig green]

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c323/turbocraig/Trackdays/EUROFEST07025.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c323/turbocraig/Trackdays/EUROFEST07027.jpg

Funny seeing these again. I started a thread on MIGweb about this car & it sparked a massive argument about the wheels on it. They arent steels but some mad metal-matrix/NASA alloy citroen C5 things that only weigh 5kg & cost pittance from Citroen new.

[L14MNP]

The Chevette is impressive. Some lads were fitting an S2000 motor to a 3dr Cosworth locally a while back. I think it was destined for rally cross. :)

[L14MNP]

Craig that FWD 309 is awesome! Interesting info on the wheels!

[SR-Rally]

yeah, hoping to be going testing with darren and few others in a couple of months. will try get some vids.

i like the 309, would love to put tuned honda lump in one my cars. just for the revs :P

[craig green]

Craig that FWD 309 is awesome! Interesting info on the wheels!

Yeah if I had a 205 or Saxo, they would be on it.

[DW-Nova]

Without going completley off topic that is some very intresting info on the Citroen C5 wheels !!! I work at a breakers yard and stripped down a C5 last week, i took the spare wheel out and thought WOW thats light !!! it looked just like a normal steel wheel but obviously not hey, nice cheap lightweight wheel option there, good info, arnt they 4x100 pcd anyhow ?

[Saloony]

See LM solutions for details lol

[L14MNP]

Aren't C5's 5 stud? I'm going to find these crazy wheels on my next trip to the breakers. lol 108 PCD.

[Damo]

Aren't C5's 5 stud? I'm going to find these crazy wheels on my next trip to the breakers. lol 108 PCD.

I did a recall on the c5's they had a fault with the wheels cracking when they came out there made of alloy thats why there so light.

[MK999]

Hmmm, pugrot diseasal love? lol What width are they? :p

[Bubba]

after 20 odd mins hunting through the thread

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj152/C7LJN/13102008606.jpg

my favourite project thread :p

[SR-Rally]

Is that collins? Brilliant built

[wwmnw]

Aye.

Cant say I recall any bike engined/space framed efforts yet.

T45_Ste has a space framed one in the making.

Conversions not much heard of these days is a C20XE or C20LET in a Nova, so rare its unreal.

[Bubba]

Is that collins? Brilliant built

that it is :thumb:

[Pete]

Subscribed :)

[ben doodar]

Pics or I'm a non believer I'm affraid pal.
I think a 106 gti/vts engine would be good in a light weight nova.

[rallypvc]

So how did you overcome the fact that you cant get the front pass side hub,strut assembly, brake assembly & road wheel on as the gearbox is right in the way of the tie bar mount, which the lower arm mounts to, no lower arm, no mounting of hub.?

The last & only one I saw, the aforementioned problem stopped any further progress.

custom mounted engine further towards the passenger side inner wing was quite a big job it sits about 25mm closer to the inner wing than i would on a honda

[General Baxter]

PHOTOS lol

[L14MNP]

So the 25mm to the N/S is enough to allow the gearbox clearance?

Pics needed mate!

[rallypvc]

So the 25mm to the RHS is enough to allow the gearbox clearance?

Pics needed mate!

yes when also including the 25mm strecht lower arms and steering rack so allows 50mm ish extra clearance on the gearbox side pics will be on later today when i finish work

[L14MNP]

Sounds promising mate. :)

[rallypvc]

i'm just in the process of mockin up some drive shafts when the mock ones are ready they will be sent to proprop.co.uk to be made as a one piece solid shaft

[General Baxter]

yawn lol

[rallypvc]

i konw some people dont think its pos because of the amount of custom work involved but i'm an engineer by trade and my dads a trained mechanic and engineer also so its a little easier to over come some of the probs

[draper]

the sums 'could' work (fag packet engineering FTW)

pics will always be needed tho otherwise you'll just get every man and his dog jumping on the 'its not possible, your a liar' bandwagon

[dj_wudgey]

after 20 odd mins hunting through the thread

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj152/C7LJN/13102008606.jpg

my favourite project thread :p

was a class build this!!

[GDN16v]

Strangest engine ive seen fitted in a nova was a suzuki 1.3 WTF???
Similar car - Honda engine in a tigra, although not exactly a straight fit, lol.:thumb:

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/3454/vtectigra.jpg (http://img404.imageshack.us/i/vtectigra.jpg/)

[burgo]

the honda engine in the one a few years back was fitted and was a video of it driving around his yard. he couldnt get full lock because of the gearbox though, it was deffinetly in there though.

im surprised you lot havnt realised by now to not jump on the band wagon of disbelieving and hating when people state they have built something.

[rallypvc]

pics comin up soon just loading what i got onto photobucket

[rallypvc]

Strangest engine ive seen fitted in a nova was a suzuki 1.3 WTF???
Similar car - Honda engine in a tigra, although not exactly a straight fit, lol.:thumb:

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/3454/vtectigra.jpg (http://img404.imageshack.us/i/vtectigra.jpg/)

not supprised that didn't work its a k20 vtec thats about 2.5 inches longer then the b16b vtec i'm using

[rallypvc]

this is the first pic this is the engine being offered into place to decide how far to the passenger side it needed/could bo moved

http://i828.photobucket.com/albums/zz201/rallymann123/P110809_1851.jpg

you will of course have noticed the hole in the inner wing this is where the new mount was to be welded in as below

http://i828.photobucket.com/albums/zz201/rallymann123/P240310_1211.jpg

next we had to build up a mount on the drivers side inner wing which would hold the gearbox mount

http://i828.photobucket.com/albums/zz201/rallymann123/P240310_121101.jpg

http://i828.photobucket.com/albums/zz201/rallymann123/P240310_1651.jpg

in the first pic you will see that there is no inlet on the engine and the clever among you will be thinking the bais peddle box would be in the way this was cured easily by using an interior floor mounted bais peddle box which also helps solve the hydraulic clutch problem

as to the extended lower arms and steering rack ends i mentioned earlier in the thread i cant find the pic of the lower arms but will take a new one when i get a min but heres one of the extended rack ends

http://i828.photobucket.com/albums/zz201/rallymann123/P240310_164902.jpg

it was simple to achive just cut the rack add a thread too both the cut ends then make a piece of steel with the same thread in either end but with a 25mm blank section between so that when screwed together again the rack ends would be 25mm longer i also welded them to be sure

[burgo]

****ing love it. up yours you hater pricks

[Stuart]

/hating

lol

[lewisvalver]

im glad i had a little faith in the lad and never joined the non believer club lol

[rallypvc]

the engine does mount with no probs with wheel catching gearbox when i've got it remounted i will post up a pic as the engine and box are out at the mo because i'm uprating the engine with light weight flywheel new shell and rings and the box is away being reconed and having its new kaaz lsd and 4.7 final drive fitted as soon as the box is back the bottom end and box will be going straight back in

[rallypvc]

cheers for the faith guys lol

[rallypvc]

couple of pics of the moded fly wheel its a standard one and i thort i'd replace it with a mugen one but after looking at the mugen one i thort to myself i can do that with the standard one heres some pics first befor the work

http://i828.photobucket.com/albums/zz201/rallymann123/P260110_163701.jpg

http://i828.photobucket.com/albums/zz201/rallymann123/P260110_1637.jpg

weight was roughly a lil over 9kg now after the work

http://i828.photobucket.com/albums/zz201/rallymann123/P030210_1502.jpg

http://i828.photobucket.com/albums/zz201/rallymann123/P030210_1501.jpg

after turning and milling the finish weight was 4.25kg

[Mike]

Good job i wasnt a non beliver lol just skeptical as to how youve over come the "known" problems of a Tec'er into Nova conversion.

The B16 & 18's are fapping brilliant engines tho!!!

[rallypvc]

me and my dad love a challenge he used to rally an old talbot sunbeam with its origonal ti engine but we then fitted a toyota 4age 16v engine but after a bit he got board with that and upgraded to toyota 4age 20v blacktop on standard itb's

so were used to a bit of graft! lol

[rwaggers]

funking hell mate sounds like a great laught that you and your dad get up too !!

[rallypvc]

funking hell mate sounds like a great laught that you and your dad get up too !!

we do mate loadz of fun but lots and lots of time and money that we dont really have lol

[Connor]

funking class +rep :thumb:

[The Simps]

So really this thread was a rooze to get your pics up and dare I say post count ;)

Fair play! Owned a few in the process lol

[Mike]

funking hell mate sounds like a great laught that you and your dad get up too !!

+1 to that!

My dads more into steam trains an WW1 & 2 shÃ*t :(

[rallypvc]

So really this thread was a rooze to get your pics up and dare I say post count ;)

Fair play! Owned a few in the process lol

lol a little bit mate but also was expecting a few bad comments so was a bit shy about just posting the pics

[rwaggers]

My dads more into steam trains an WW1 & 2 shÃ*t :(

arh im safe on that one, my dad is in too rallying like me so is all good lol

plan on doing some funky sh!t to my nova this year :d and getting the mk2 escort out to play too:thumb:

[The Simps]

why bad comments? looks good shizzle to me. modifying is all about trying something different.

[rallypvc]

couple of pics of are old levin powered sunbeam now sadly sold

http://i828.photobucket.com/albums/zz201/rallymann123/SA400151.jpg

http://i828.photobucket.com/albums/zz201/rallymann123/SA400162.jpg[/URL]

[rallypvc]

why bad comments? looks good shizzle to me. modifying is all about trying something different.

thanks mate my thorts exactly!

[rwaggers]

mate thats truly amazing and it also fits a treat

[Sloth]

phone number for the haters, 1-800-eat-sh1t.

bout time someone shut you up.

respect to the o.p for this.

[rallypvc]

mate thats truly amazing and it also fits a treat

looks an easy fit but f**k me it took some doing lol

had to custom build engine mounts out of modified ford cortina mk3 rear axel mounts!

[rallypvc]

if someone says " you cant do that " we love to prove them wrong

[rallypvc]

thanks for the positive comments i've had i dont blame the people who thort i was just talking sh1t you hear a lot of stories of strange conversion that never turn out to be truth just wish i'd started this when near my home comp so could post the pics sooner might have saved about 75 posts lol

[matt_vaughan]

rallypvc, you've proven many people wrong. The old honda debate has been around countless times, well done. It's "mad" people like you, taking on the seemingly impossible that get's conversions like C20XEs/V6s into the limelight. Well done. Please keep up with it though, we want videos next :D

[Jack]

Strange

http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v3356/183/37/667958884/n667958884_2508486_1968006.jpg

[muzzy]

I will happily take back the non believing, that is a very tidy job. Main reason for me being so sceptical is you always hear crazy stories about conversions and nobody ever proves people wrong. I'm glad you have done so.

[Paul]

Ha ha ha, pics shut most of them up lol

good work

[L14MNP]

phone number for the haters, 1-800-eat-sh1t.

bout time someone shut you up.

respect to the o.p for this.

Yeah, but he delivers on his claims! lol

Nice one PVC. Very good to see it done mate. :thumb: +rep

[rallypvc]

rallypvc, you've proven many people wrong. The old honda debate has been around countless times, well done. It's "mad" people like you, taking on the seemingly impossible that get's conversions like C20XEs/V6s into the limelight. Well done. Please keep up with it though, we want videos next :D

thanks mate as soon as its running there will be many vids;)

[rallypvc]

I will happily take back the non believing, that is a very tidy job. Main reason for me being so sceptical is you always hear crazy stories about conversions and nobody ever proves people wrong. I'm glad you have done so.

i understand completely hear lots of them sorts of storries myself

[rallypvc]

i can see im going to have to start myself a build thread

[muzzy]

Is the engine fitted to a competition car?

[rallypvc]

Is the engine fitted to a competition car?

yes mate fully rally prepared nova

[muzzy]

I think you should start a thread in projects about it, I would be very interested to see the car. :)

[rallypvc]

I'll sort some fresh pics gather up a little more info and give it a go

[rallypvc]

I've had the car two years now don't have a lot to spend so I save a little then spend a little lol

[muzzy]

I would think with that engine in a light shell it could be a very competitive car.

[rallypvc]

That's my hopes mate I'm looking to get 200 bhp @ wheels

[muzzy]

Will it be a standard box your running? (Sorry if mentioned somewhere already)

[rallypvc]

Ek9 type R box (s4c) with kaaz LSD and 4.7 final drive

[fearless]

Nice to see a different project - we done so far

My only observation/question is the n/s engine mount protudes in the n/s/f wheel arch quite a bit - is there enough clearance once the wheel is on and sat low on the floor ?



Dave

[rallypvc]

Nice to see a different project - we done so far

My only observation/question is the n/s engine mount protudes in the n/s/f wheel arch quite a bit - is there enough clearance once the wheel is on and sat low on the floor ?



Dave

good observation this was another reason for widening the front track when sus is fully compressed it's close but misses

[fearless]

Another observation - seem to remember welding of steering tie rods is a big no no for MOT's - will check in the MOT bible tomorrow :(


Dave

[rallypvc]

Another observation - seem to remember welding of steering tie rods is a big no no for MOT's - will check in the MOT bible tomorrow :(


Dave


Mmmm never thort of that this was the easy way to do it if the gods of the mot say no I'll remove the whole rack end and make a new one piece part thanks for that mate something I may have over looked
Cheers

[draper]

well done squire

i notice non of the 'i smell bullsheets' etc people have returned to this thread lol

[rallypvc]

well done squire

i notice non of the 'i smell bullsheets' etc people have returned to this thread lol


Cheers mate

lol

[Stuart]

So really this thread was a rooze to get your pics up and dare I say post count ;)

Fair play! Owned a few in the process lol


agreed. spamhammer might come out and garnish things lol

[muzzy]

well done squire

i notice non of the 'i smell bullsheets' etc people have returned to this thread lol

I did :(

[MattBrown]

****ing love it. up yours you hater pricks

Haha, fair play mate, looks like a propper top job!

Vtec and s2000 engines seem to fit into anything, theyre a modern redtop:d lol

[DW-Nova]

Looks very tidy rallypvc, nice to see something different too :) also very much liking the 4A-GE 20v in the Talbot, what a great engine hey !!! I drive a AE111 Levin which as i'm sure you know is the car that the engine originally comes from, amazing engine ! and so much torquier than a b16a hey, plus factory fit itb's, makes me wanna put one into a Nova.

[total_vauxhall]

all i can say is if you want a car with a toyota or honda engine then go buy a toyota or a honda .

[rallypvc]

Looks very tidy rallypvc, nice to see something different too :) also very much liking the 4A-GE 20v in the Talbot, what a great engine hey !!! I drive a AE111 Levin which as i'm sure you know is the car that the engine originally comes from, amazing engine ! and so much torquier than a b16a hey, plus factory fit itb's, makes me wanna put one into a Nova.


Yeah there a quality engine thort of putting one in the nova was just a little too much money to fully spaceframe the front end then had a look at the b16b which produces slightly more torque than b16a due to higher compresion pistons and it would fit with the need to spaceframe

[L14MNP]

all i can say is if you want a car with a toyota or honda engine then go buy a toyota or a honda .
Gay.

There's nothing wrong with fitting superior engineering to a boxy Vauxhall!

[muzzy]

all i can say is if you want a car with a toyota or honda engine then go buy a toyota or a honda .

That's the attitude to have :roll:

[rallypvc]

all i can say is if you want a car with a toyota or honda engine then go buy a toyota or a honda .


Fair point mate but for me personally it's more about pushing myself and the bounderies of modifing I no it's not everyones cup of tea it's just what I enjoy to do

[MK999]

all i can say is if you want a car with a toyota or honda engine then go buy a toyota or a honda .

This. All those people with an S1 Elise should just buy a rover ffs. Whats the point?:roll:

[L14MNP]

All those people with certain old Rovers should just buy a Honda?

Oh wait... lol

Also why buy a McLaren F1 when Mr millionaire should have just bought an M Powered Beemer! lol

[muzzy]

Anyone who wants a 2.0 Nova should just buy a Cavalier

[John]

lol

(wouldn't put a toyota engine, would probably accellerate on it's own lol)

[L14MNP]

lol Only if you're American.

2JZ engine, no sh!t!

[John]

lol

[MattBrown]

God, all them silly mk2 escorts running vauxhall engines?

I don't see the whole "You shouldnt"

Why not?

If it keeps you happy, and doesnt hurt anyone, feel free to do whatever lol

[rallypvc]

I think this thread is going dangerously off topic and is going to get me in trouble lol

[muzzy]

No its been decided, all the Escorts must fit they're standard engines.

[L14MNP]

MB, they only run XE's as Ford stuff is too pricey. lol

As we're off topic can I ask why the 'pvc' part of your name? lol

[MattBrown]

MB, they only run XE's as Ford stuff is too pricey. lol

As we're off topic can I ask why the 'pvc' part of your name? lol


Bondage:d

[rallypvc]

MB, they only run XE's as Ford stuff is too pricey. lol

As we're off topic can I ask why the 'pvc' part of your name? lol


I'm not into rubber it's just last letters of my nova reg lol

[L14MNP]

Hmmm yeah right. lol

[muzzy]

No believer again lol

[rallypvc]

Lol @ L14MNP and muzzy I told you it was going off topic where will it go next

[muzzy]

I think it's gone fairly downhill as it is lol

[L14MNP]

No believer again lol
Ah but this is the first time for me. lol :thumb:

[muzzy]

Ah but this is the first time for me. lol :thumb:

I took it like a man and admitted how wrong I was :p

[total_vauxhall]

Anyone who wants a 2.0 Nova should just buy a Cavalier
DOESNT COUNT IF ITS A VAUXHALL MOTOR . that wasnt what i was gettin at after all i have an xe nova each to there own but personaly unless the motor was somthing huge v8 v12 that is had to come buy in a standard vaux then why not just use a vauxhall motor after all most of them apart from, eco wreck are bullet proof. 2.2 td in novas is what i like to see :thumb:

[muzzy]

It's always good to push the boundaries on what you can fit in cars IMO. It makes things more interesting. I don't disagree with using Vauxhall engines in Vauxhall's but look at the Escort's running 2.0 XE's and how competitive they are and how well the engine goes in that car.

[Angus Closier]

DOESNT COUNT IF ITS A VAUXHALL MOTOR . that wasnt what i was gettin at after all i have an xe nova each to there own but personaly unless the motor was somthing huge v8 v12 that is had to come buy in a standard vaux then why not just use a vauxhall motor after all most of them apart from, eco wreck are bullet proof. 2.2 td in novas is what i like to see :thumb:

why?? Other engines are just as good if not better? Look at the age of the C20xe and C20lets now? Let alone the 8v's. Helps if its a vaux for fitment etc but if you can get more power/newer engines/cheaper etc why not??
Looks good mate...must admit i was a non beliver due to people like "Cough" sloth "Cough" not producing what they say. HOWEVER i will eat my words. Would be nice to see some vids etc!

[Stuart]

DOESNT COUNT IF ITS A VAUXHALL MOTOR . that wasnt what i was gettin at after all i have an xe nova each to there own but personaly unless the motor was somthing huge v8 v12 that is had to come buy in a standard vaux then why not just use a vauxhall motor after all most of them apart from, eco wreck are bullet proof. 2.2 td in novas is what i like to see :thumb:


narrow it down you tool. The 1.0 to 3.2 engines are branded as ecotecs ;)

[rallypvc]

why?? Other engines are just as good if not better? Look at the age of the C20xe and C20lets now? Let alone the 8v's. Helps if its a vaux for fitment etc but if you can get more power/newer engines/cheaper etc why not??
Looks good mate...must admit i was a non beliver due to people like "Cough" sloth "Cough" not producing what they say. HOWEVER i will eat my words. Would be nice to see some vids etc!

cheers mate totally agree with you.
as soon as the bits are back together I'll do some more detailed pics and some vids thanks for the vote of confidence

[rallypvc]

narrow it down you tool. The 1.0 to 3.2 engines are branded as ecotecs ;)


Lol

[muzzy]

1.0 ecotec's are far from bulletproof in my experience lol

[Stuart]

start a project thread.

[Angus Closier]

cheers mate totally agree with you.
as soon as the bits are back together I'll do some more detailed pics and some vids thanks for the vote of confidence

Not an issue buddy, might have been coverd but why choose that engine and not a tuned C20XE? etc?

What you using it for when its done? When do you aim to have it done or is it done when its done?:thumb:

[rallypvc]

start a project thread.


Going to mate going to get better pics and info then get one started

[daverobson]

+rep :)

[rallypvc]

Not an issue buddy, might have been coverd but why choose that engine and not a tuned C20XE? etc?

What you using it for when its done? When do you aim to have it done or is it done when its done?:thumb:


Going to be used as rally car and for track days shows anything really
chose it over c20xe as I think there a little dated (that'll get some comments) and I got this engine for £450 and I no a guy in japan who can get me cheap quality aftermarket parts so I only need spend about £800 on it to have a modern 200bhp@ wheels motor

[rallypvc]

Aiming to be finished by September ish depending on cash flow

[total_vauxhall]

narrow it down you tool. The 1.0 to 3.2 engines are branded as ecotecs ;)
no need to narrow it down they are all sh1te i have had from a 1.0l 12v corsa to a 3.0l v6 eco and every thing between and they hav all been **** .egr problem / can chain stretch / oil pumps / head gaskets on many of them . not to mension the power they DONT have even t.v mag did a write up on the 1400 and 1600 16v motors and it was said they were only any good for 60'000 miles . anyway back to topic

[craig green]

Did you say its got wider track etc to fit it all in? Real shame it cant be got in under std arches for sleeper status & mass appeal.

[rallypvc]

Did you say its got wider track etc to fit it all in? Real shame it cant be got in under std arches for sleeper status & mass appeal.


Would have been good to keep it sleeper but with the wider track just not pos mate

[muzzy]

The 1400 & 1600 16v ecotec engine's are used in so many forms of motorsport and are very tunable, if they are so bad why do so many people use them? Obviously that part of your argument is from what you read in a magazine but I've seen and worked on plenty of high mileage ecotec engines of various sizes and plenty are still going strong.

[Angus Closier]

Going to be used as rally car and for track days shows anything really
chose it over c20xe as I think there a little dated (that'll get some comments) and I got this engine for £450 and I no a guy in japan who can get me cheap quality aftermarket parts so I only need spend about £800 on it to have a modern 200bhp@ wheels motor

Sounds good, Im using a c20xe only due to getting it cheap! I like what your doing and can totally see why! I will enter myself into a project when i have time and money! good luck! will be lots of fun when finished

[rallypvc]

The 1400 & 1600 16v ecotec engine's are used in so many forms of motorsport and are very tunable, if they are so bad why do so many people use them? Obviously that part of your argument is from what you read in a magazine but I've seen and worked on plenty of high mileage ecotec engines of various sizes and plenty are still going strong.

I agree my mate had a corsa 1400 Eco that pulled like a train to 150k and he sold it and wishes he never had it was a cracking motor as with any engine you look after it and it will look after you!

[rallypvc]

Sounds good, Im using a c20xe only due to getting it cheap! I like what your doing and can totally see why! I will enter myself into a project when i have time and money! good luck! will be lots of fun when finished


Cheers mate thanks I'll keep everyone posted

As for using a c20xe if you make the most of what you've got to work with you can't go wrong

[dj_wudgey]

I agree my mate had a corsa 1400 Eco that pulled like a train to 150k and he sold it and wishes he never had it was a cracking motor as with any engine you look after it and it will look after you!

i agree they can be ok motors my mate had a corsa with the eco tech in and went well he batterd it every where for 3 years and never missed a beat!!

[ben doodar]

Il get my coat!!
Very nice mate. Pleased to be proven wrong.

[napalm_27]

does look wierd with the opposit side gear box lol

good fooking work tho