View Full Version : Rat look, discuss....
save spamming kayalls thread, ive followed jacks advice (theres a first..) and posted in here. feel free to express your views. :thumb:
and remember kids, rust aint a crime....
Each to their own,
End of discussion!
connor c
19-03-10, 11:00 AM
not interested in it but everyone to there own oppinion
connor
Not a fan, never ever will be a fan.
Imo, it goes against everything a true car enthusiast should want, i mean we spend shed loads on rustproofing and changing panels, hell look at all the people who go to Duick when he comes over to buy gen panels to keep their cars as mint and rust free as possible, so why the hell should we want to encourage it to rot and rust?
And to my understanding, true rat is a barn find, left exactly as it is, with only the brakes and running gear replaced or serviced, so if you make your car rat then in my understanding youre doing it wrong?
This is only what i understand of it, ive never looked into it fully as it pains me to see what in my eyes is a perfectly good car made to look crap or even ruined!
And can we please take note this is not a place for people to slag either trend off, be it rat 'haters' as the guys on ratlook have so kindly branded those who dont agree with it, nor the the shiny 'haters' (to use that term again) ive seen the thread Liam linked from ratlook and saw some very childish comments from most of the members, but on the flip side i also saw a lot of childish comments by a lot of people on here in Kaylls thread aswell so were all to blame, but lets not let this one go off topic and start a massive argument between the sites, it will be removed if this is the case!
mk1nova_rich
19-03-10, 11:01 AM
looks crap
forced rat = scene = sheep = fail.
Let something slip into rat and its kinda cool(ish)...
IMO, rat look is spending all your money on engine/performance, possibly wheels, and either not bothering or not having time/money to spend on the looks of the car. Hence them looking tatty, or "ratty". Sure, it needs to be solid, but its very much a make do and mend style of repair.
The modern fad seems to go against that ^ as people are spending time and effort to purposefully make newer cars look old and tatty, and in most cases the engine and performance isn't all that great.
I guess my car falls into some form of rat category? It has all the money spent on the functional things, performance (210bhp is plenty for the moment :d) etc, and repairs are just done to a standard to work. I wouldn't refer to it as rat though, I'm just lazy. lol
Ahhh I dunno. I suppose I just "don't get it".
Mattman
19-03-10, 11:09 AM
Don't get it? especially the current 'modern' rat scene. Would rather a nice polished, clean, unrusted motor myself. But as most have said each to their own. I just wouldn't IMO ruin a perfectly good car.
Angus Closier
19-03-10, 11:11 AM
I can see if somthing is found in that state (barn find/origional etc) but forcing your car to be somthing most people hate at mot time? Iv never been a fan of rust and would never want a RAT car.....I feel its just a scene thats easy to do and you dont have to show any sort of tallent or skill.
Southie
19-03-10, 11:13 AM
TBH bored of the whole rat conversation on here. :roll:
they look amazing on some 1930's barn find american hotrod, and ok on some ratty 1960's vw bus, but i saw a 1998 fiesta done in rat & it looked horrendous
Nova_Tek
19-03-10, 11:55 AM
When I hear 'Rat' this is what immediately comes to my mind.
http://photos.cokertire.com/data/503/1939-rat-rod-pickup.jpg
http://images.thecarconnection.com/med/1932-ford-rat-rod_100170259_m.jpg
These are cars from the 30's, 40's and 50's (normally). Like it was said, the above cars bodywork is 'as is' no mods done no paint just how it was and cars like this are no show but all go.
However, at the end of the day, people have their own tastes and ideas and opinions. If people choose to go for an artificial/replicated rat look (as from what I've seen sometimes it's perfectly clean cars made to look tatty) then that's down to them, each to their own.
That is all.
blue_peg_16v
19-03-10, 11:56 AM
not my cup of tea
although i do have a soft spot for that let kadett coupe that been around a couple of years now
L33 LEG
19-03-10, 11:59 AM
Retards, the lot of them.
Everything looks better with a paint job. No question.
'Natural' rats can be respected a bit though, usually it's some 40+ year old vehicle that has led a varied life etc.
Bulk ordering 'retro' stickers from eBay and setting about the bonnet of your 12 dr sh!t box with the wet n dry is nothing short of pathetic. Then rake through the AdTrader for a used Paddy Hopkirk, coil a rusty chain around it, add a sh!t BMX fit for the tip and a Porsche Cookie Cutter that won't fit you cars PCD and you really are the king of cool...
If you're gonna follow a trend how's about following one that doesn't make you look like a t!t and ruin cars (some good) in the process?
LMAO @ all of the new terminology too. I prefer tw4t rat. You know who you are. lol
all valid comments. i personally like rat, no matter what it be, simply because its different, to an extent. now, if someone on here dragged an A reg merit out of a scrappy after 10 years sitting, got it mot'd and taxed then kudos, a true rat nova.
i shall have to dig up some pics i have from the summernats hot rod meet, of some true ratters....
keep it coming guys. i do think its safe to say, its here to stay mind...
all valid comments. i personally like rat, no matter what it be, simply because its different, to an extent.
I don't think it is any more. Ok its not massive, but then thats because its only a minority of people who are.... willing to do this to their cars. But then, what I would consider to be concours cars (Nick J, Keith Robinson, Benn etc) aren't all that common either.
Every style and trend no matter how played out will always remain to a degree now IMO thanks to the internet keeping various like minded enthusiasts together.
However, most modern 'ratters' are just sheep, so they will move on to the next 'cool' thing as soon as Fast Car gives them the green light.
Prove me wrong. :d
djshaggeh
19-03-10, 12:42 PM
I like cars that are inbetween, not mint but not forced ratted.
I hate it when you see some cars stored in garages looking like they left the factory, because it clearly shows its not used and is more of an orniment.
But on the other hand I don't think the rat look is anything new. I used to drive around sheds when I first passed my test as I'm sure most of us did.
At the end of the day its only a nova, if it was a mk2 escort then the shotgun would be coming out lol
Nova_Tek
19-03-10, 12:45 PM
I think what people are tryna say is that this type of look isn't true rat as it's forced (taking a good car and making it look knackered) where as the proper rat look is cars found in that state, and just big V8's strapped to them so they're quick.
. if it was a mk2 escort then the shotgun would be coming out lol
why theyre crap lol seriously, its just an escort, i really dont understand the hype. still each to their own....
I don't either, but then I never was a great fan of any Fords. Bar the Mustang, and I don't even like those all that much lol
But on the other hand I don't think the rat look is anything new. I used to drive around sheds when I first passed my test as I'm sure most of us did.
My first car was a shed, but a polished shed that was in good nick lol
I see what you mean though. Although I didn't ever see people purposefully attacking their cars with sandpaper!
The cynic in me wants to think its because they are too lazy to clean up a tatty looking car. Example, baxter has patched up the rusty bits on his 5dr; instead of putting in the effort there to fix it and look good he could have just rubbed half the car down with a grinder and left it.
why theyre crap lol seriously, its just an escort, i really dont understand the hype. still each to their own....
Ermmm an impressive motorsport pedigree, respected by some of the best in the business, 40 odd years of aftermarket parts developemnt (inc mk1) and a heavy dose of OSF tax, not to mention them looking awesome. They can (easily) be made to own. No-one sane can doubt that.
I remember when they were buttons too. :(
Example, baxter has patched up the rusty bits on his 5dr; instead of putting in the effort there to fix it and look good he could have just rubbed half the car down with a grinder and left it.
nope he cant, he's binned the grinder lol
at the end of the day its all down to personal taste. or as i was once told, "one mans crock of sh1t is anothers crock of gold":thumb:
Ermmm an impressive motorsport pedigree, respected by some of the best in the business, 40 odd years of aftermarket parts developemnt (inc mk1) and a heavy dose of OSF tax, not to mention them looking awesome. They can (easily) be made to own. No-one sane can doubt that.
I remember when they were buttons too. :(
i understand that, but surely its easier and cheaper to go faster in a cossie for example? i'll bet my rusty drawers that if you put an xe nova and a pinto'd mk2 against each other the nova would abuse it like a ho.:)
and tbh i think the mk3 escy looks better than the mk1 and 2. imo of course...
I'm torn. I love the mk3 RS1600i, and in some ways it looks better.
Maybe the Nova would beat a Pinto'd mk2, but I know which is more fun. Steer from the rear beats Rong Wheel Drive any day.
i understand that, but surely its easier and cheaper to go faster in a cossie for example? i'll bet my rusty drawers that if you put an xe nova and a pinto'd mk2 against each other the nova would abuse it like a ho.:)
and tbh i think the mk3 escy looks better than the mk1 and 2. imo of course...
on a forest stage, it would be very interesting, but on tarmac, the nova would whip it
djshaggeh
19-03-10, 01:15 PM
I'd chop my nova in for a mk2 escort anyday. Retro RWD ftw. Although I'd end up going backwards through someone living room if I had one!
As Sloth said its all down to personal taste. Although on this occasion, he is wrong. How can you not like mk2 escorts :) lol
General Baxter
19-03-10, 01:19 PM
nope he cant, he's binned the grinder lol
at the end of the day its all down to personal taste. or as i was once told, "one mans crock of sh1t is anothers crock of gold":thumb:
IV GOT A NEW ONE.
only a little 4" so i can do the chassis mod for my engine :)
thanks for the comments, i takes about 10 hours to fix a 10p size hole, but its worth it
RAT = LAZY in my eyes
Each to their own,
End of discussion!
best fukkin response!
My car's Rat check my rust... oh wait shiny bonnet fail
http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff175/Rysee_sri_130/10032010022.jpg
It's the rusty bonnets on Brand new golfs that make me laugh
the estate is currently rather ratty looking lol
As is the vx, but the bitch wont rust lol
I have a couple of minor spots I'm sorting on the 'OAP+' Lolvo tomorrow. Wish I was cool enough to leave them and let it ruin the car.
As is the vx, but the bitch wont rust lolive got plenty of rust developing :d
mines not rat look, just looks like crap if you ask me! if i had my way it would be super glossy black all over, so shiny you could use it as a mirror...how ever, it has a matt black bonnet and roof and sporting primer grey around the rust spots! would rather that than bloody rust colour...
i like rat style, just not the rust...why would you want to make it rusty!!!!!!!!!!!!! still dont get it!?
Not a fan, don't understand the point on cars like Nova's etc but the rat rod's in the states can look quite good.
Problem is when folk try too hard and start plastering stickers, general crap and Nitromors all over they're car.
novaload1992
19-03-10, 04:26 PM
i don't like it
ratr rods and Hoodride is cool.
forced rat on a modern car.. massive fail.
rat or rotten??
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a226/sclurgess/SAM_0035.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a226/sclurgess/SAM_0033.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a226/sclurgess/SAM_0032.jpg
i know what i think lol
General Baxter
19-03-10, 04:57 PM
i think that needs to see a doctor quick
meh piece of **** can rot away lol
If you want to drive a car that looks like a shÃ*tter, get an Austin Allegro.
I had a rat look motor before Rat Look was invented FFS!
IMO, rat look is spending all your money on engine/performance, possibly wheels, and either not bothering or not having time/money to spend on the looks of the car. Hence them looking tatty, or "ratty". Sure, it needs to be solid, but its very much a make do and mend style of repair.
isnt that where it all originated ? the hotrods of yesteryear in america who spent all there pocket monies on a V8 etc ?
mine will be 'rat-esque' (well true to the above statement, an old rally shell complete with dents/rust/faded sponsor stickers etc and all the money/effort gone into the engine/suspension and brakes
stroutsy
19-03-10, 07:36 PM
unless its c20let, redtop, then yeah
Pistol Pete
19-03-10, 10:31 PM
Not a fan, never ever will be a fan.
Imo, it goes against everything a true car enthusiast should want, i mean we spend shed loads on rustproofing and changing panels, hell look at all the people who go to Duick when he comes over to buy gen panels to keep their cars as mint and rust free as possible, so why the hell should we want to encourage it to rot and rust?
And to my understanding, true rat is a barn find, left exactly as it is, with only the brakes and running gear replaced or serviced, so if you make your car rat then in my understanding youre doing it wrong?
This is only what i understand of it, ive never looked into it fully as it pains me to see what in my eyes is a perfectly good car made to look crap or even ruined!
And can we please take note this is not a place for people to slag either trend off, be it rat 'haters' as the guys on ratlook have so kindly branded those who dont agree with it, nor the the shiny 'haters' (to use that term again) ive seen the thread Liam linked from ratlook and saw some very childish comments from most of the members, but on the flip side i also saw a lot of childish comments by a lot of people on here in Kaylls thread aswell so were all to blame, but lets not let this one go off topic and start a massive argument between the sites, it will be removed if this is the case!
What he said TBH.
Spotted this complete disaster on corsasport, not sure if anyone has posted this yet...
http://rat-look.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=3174
Spotted this complete disaster on corsasport, not sure if anyone has posted this yet...
http://rat-look.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=3174
Needs taking back to the crusher along with all this other rat look tat.
If i wanted my car to look like its just been dragged out a breakers yard, then I buy an insurance write off. I really cannot see the point in it all.
Spotted this complete disaster on corsasport, not sure if anyone has posted this yet...
http://rat-look.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=3174
i dont get how a piece of scrap is cool
i dont get how a piece of scrap is cool
summed up by the post "that;s just abuse... but it works as rat" I think.
Understanding what you're actually following fail.
That's Corsa is that new age "rat" look.. and is utter sh*t.
Is that a plastic tube roll cage?
i have advised people to do drainpipe cages on here, cos on a 1.poo that only gets road use & goes to kruizes, does not need a real one.
LMFAO @ that corsa! Its what, a 1.2? Wow, not only does it look sh!t, its going to be slow as sh!t too!
To be fair though, it looks a lot better now he's made it into a pickup! I hope I'm missing it, but I didn't see any talk or pics of underbody strengthening though?
it can only be a comedy show car.....its too illegal
dj_wudgey
20-03-10, 07:40 PM
looks crap
looks worse than that lol rat look = b*llocks!!!
General Baxter
20-03-10, 07:44 PM
my mum, just pissed her self at that corsa, she said if i make one, she would kick me out and disown me, for having a piece of crap on the drive lol
CoolTiger
20-03-10, 07:46 PM
not my cup of tea
although i do have a soft spot for that let kadett coupe that been around a couple of years now
mr darcys?
http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs114.snc1/4955_90653671983_716856983_2043782_5371047_n.jpg
http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs114.snc1/4955_90652506983_716856983_2043736_4677785_n.jpg
its getting painted tho it isnt "planned" to be rat just is lok
General Baxter
20-03-10, 07:52 PM
its getting painted tho it isnt "planned" to be rat just is lok
correct, if you read some of the TV mags, its getting a full PROPER make over, someday lol
CoolTiger
20-03-10, 07:56 PM
it still looks the same now just with bluish wings be the same for pv aswell i think
that kadett C is great.
no forced look, it looks like it's been pulled out of a barn where some one left it 20 years ago. hoodride!
7 pages of rat discussion? boring imho!
i prefer the look of mice
how much negitive rep would i get if i done a rat nova sport? i know someone who will sell me one for a good price lol
how many stab wounds would i get if i done a rat nova sport? i know someone who will sell me one for a good price lol
edited for truth lol lol lol
edited for truth lol lol lol
would'nt be popular then lol
:cuckoo: :tosser: :witch: springs to mind
lol i dunno,i imagine it wouldnt be appreciated lol
A rat nova I could just about understand.
A rat sport... well that'd be like cutting your own knob off. Buy a car worth between £1-4k depending on condition and make it worth £200. Oh dear lol
A rat nova I could just about understand.Buy a car worth between £1-4k depending on condition and make it worth £200. Oh dear lol
Thats what folk are doing though.Im just waiting for the day when i see a load of idiots on the beach round here,all pulling their bonnets and doors out the sea in a big net......checking on the progress of rust...........
Richie_B
21-03-10, 11:08 AM
Pony.
L33 LEG
21-03-10, 11:21 AM
That corsa...what the fcuk is going on with some people :wtf: that is seriously fcuked up on so many levels and people are actually saying how cool it is. What the fcuk is going on :roll: :confused: :tard:
The problem is they don't know what they like. They have no opinion or idea on how to style a car themselves so they follow fashions, but to stay 'cool' they don't tag onto the most popular styling of the moment.
But you bet your cab they'd all be rolling OEM+ and JDM y0 if they weren't skint t0ssers. lol
MattBrown
21-03-10, 11:27 AM
correct, if you read some of the TV mags, its getting a full PROPER make over, someday lol
Cash is the problem, every time he gets the monies he buys another car, or makes it more powerlol
CoolTiger
21-03-10, 11:30 AM
seen how many bugs he got now lol '/?
L33 LEG
21-03-10, 11:32 AM
The problem is they don't know what they like. They have no opinion or idea on how to style a car themselves so they follow fashions, but to stay 'cool' they don't tag onto the most popular styling of the moment.
But you bet your cab they'd all be rolling OEM+ and JDM y0 if they weren't skint t0ssers. lol
PMSL i have always said that. The only reason they go for this 'trend' is because its very cheap/free to do and they're dodgeing the fact that theyre skint and pretending they do it as its 'something different'.
i prefer the look of mice
Lmfao!!
Mouse look FTW lol
cornish cars rust well in the salty air :( its not good :(
I had a ratlook 1.3 SR a few years back, only had it a few weeks, i thought it was ratlook but mr mot man said it was rotten and told me it was dangerous, funny that isnt it, rust = fail, coincidence, i think not :p
lol
craig green
21-03-10, 08:56 PM
It's up there with buying £100 ripped jeans, insane.
Or the ones that look you've sat on a wet fence/wall. lol
It's up there with buying £100 ripped jeans, insane.
I rip my own, generally while being a tit lol one of the best being jumping on a bike with 2 bottles of vodka and coke in my back pockets to go to a mates before hitting town, and splitting one of the pockets right down the **** lol
I await Mowgli's input on this clothing trend. lol
something like this:
"painted jeans? pah pass my flares."
I had a ratlook 1.3 SR a few years back, only had it a few weeks, i thought it was ratlook but mr mot man said it was rotten and told me it was dangerous, funny that isnt it, structural rust = fail, coincidence = yep:p
lol
edited for correctness.
edited for correctness.
Not really as i used rust as a generalisation, it doesnt matter where it is, its still rust and it still equals fail!
nope. surface rust that isnt a sharp edge isnt a fail. as long as its not within 30cm of any mounting, be it susp or seatbelt.
Not really as i used rust as a generalisation, it doesnt matter where it is, its still rust and it still equals fail!
nope. surface rust that isnt a sharp edge isnt a fail. as long as its not within 30cm of any mounting, be it susp or seatbelt.
Again you missed the point that im using it as a generalisation :roll:
but your generalisation is incorrect dude...
Jon_nova1
22-03-10, 09:39 AM
your incorrect lol
I think the rat look corsa's just a p*ss take, he can't take it on the road as the lights have been sprayed over, and since making it a pickup he would most definately be done for driving a none roadworthy vehicle, he's got a new ford thingy too
your incorrect lol
I think the rat look corsa's just a p*ss take, he can't take it on the road as the lights have been sprayed over,
he can, daytime mot mate.
and since making it a pickup he would most definately be done for driving a none roadworthy vehicle,
sva test. or just write on the v5c and send it off.
he's got a new ford thingy too:thumb:
FB_evolutions
22-03-10, 12:43 PM
Each To There Own!
but i agree the rat look shud only for the hot rods
dj_wudgey
22-03-10, 01:12 PM
rat look shud'nt even be for those lol!!!
Sloth, that pickup SHOULD technically have an SVA as it should be Q-plated. But then, so should 75% of the cars on here lol
As for daytime MOT, wtf? They still test the headlights if its daytime you plum :p
L33 LEG
22-03-10, 04:13 PM
Daytime MOT? lol 99% of MOTs will be done before 5pm, does this mean none of them need working bulbs?
you can 'only' get a daylight mot if the lights are removed from the vehicle. Technically them being painted over isnt enough.
It MUST have working and visible indicators.
MUST have reflectors
Dont need stop lamps if the front AND rear position light units are missing.
so in short that corsa has no chance of an MOT unless he only fits indicators and strips the lights off.
Sloth, that pickup SHOULD technically have an SVA as it should be Q-plated. But then, so should 75% of the cars on here lol
As for daytime MOT, wtf? They still test the headlights if its daytime you plum :p rep for this:thumb:
edit: ghey grey rep. damn....lol
Sloth, that pickup SHOULD technically have an SVA as it should be Q-plated. But then, so should 75% of the cars on here lol]
See i want to know.
When did Rat look for from some rusty bits on a golf.. To a corsa that is just sh*t. That's been painted badly with can/brush or fingers and crap stuck all over it? The bath room mirrors? The random other make badges stuck on it and stuff?
That's not rat look, its just 10 pounds of sh*t in a 5pound bucket.
General Baxter
22-03-10, 08:05 PM
http://www.kemah.net/sights/images/rats.jpg
General Baxter
22-03-10, 08:06 PM
how do you kill a rat car
http://www.instructables.com/image/FVSQQT2F8OUNRQH/Rat-Trap-Car.jpg
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