help figuring out this exhaust

[Curtoise]

right i have a 1.2i, and i have a powerflow exhaust system show in pics, i have the back box on atm but its super quiet. I'm guessing its a big bore system, the thing is my car has a cat and i think it needs to stay on for mot purposes, how can i get this to fit my system/cat?! I'm stuck for ideas:thumb:

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[AlexW]

bloody hell i just told you. And was about to say about the cat.

Plus mechanical section is that way>

[blue_peg_16v]

what years your car curt

[Curtoise]

1992 it was registerd 1st aug 92

[Curtoise]

lol im getting other ideas awo6

[Benn]

92 is J reg so it wont needa cat. + that system is rusty as funk.

[blue_peg_16v]

you can bin the cat then not an mot requirment till 93

dam your quick ben

[AlexW]

Its K, must be 93, not 92.

[Curtoise]

nah it is k and its 92

[AlexW]

Cant be 92.

[Benn]

Must be a very early k. Just cut and slot the system just after the cat.

[Curtoise]

The vehicle details for K71* *** are:
Date of Liability 01 08 2010 Date of First Registration 01 08 1992 Year of Manufacture 1992 Cylinder Capacity (cc) 1195CC CO2 Emissions Not Available Fuel Type Petrol Export Marker Not Applicable Vehicle Status Licence Not Due Vehicle Colour RED Vehicle Type Approval
Vehicle Excise Duty Rate for vehicle 6 Months Rate £68.75 12 Months Rate £125.00

[Curtoise]

i dont reli wanna hack the system about tho, and its a massive bore compared to the standard so will never fit well

[blue_peg_16v]

dam cats were needed from aug 92

if you have a march copy of tv in the letters there is a star letter read that gives info on how to get round the cat although i wouldnt recomend it

[Curtoise]

yeh i know there needed from aug 92, but it says cars manufactured after aug 92 not registerd so mine would have been manufactured its just proving that to the mot'er

[blue_peg_16v]

no it says if the engine spec is unrecognizable ie near the engine number it dosent need a cat till 95 so if the grinder was to slip and remove that part of the engine number it wouldnt need a cat not that i would advocate this personaly id change the center section but keep the origional so i could re fit it for the mot

[MK999]

doesn't need a cat, it needs to pass emissions... my 1.6i passed the cat test with flying colours without one... it's how i started to figure out it was running lean lol

[Curtoise]

thats also what i was thinking about keeping the original for mot, but still, my down pipe has a 3 bolt flange and i need a 2 bolt flange for my exhaust system so im guessing i would need a new down pipe from somewhere with the 2 bolt flange

[Adam]

Most Nova k-plates are late '92
Mine was December 1992

And TBH as soon as the tester sees a lambda sensor and a injected engine he will put it on a cat test

[maddogdaz666]

you need a manifold from an older nova 8v and then it looks like it'll bolt on.

[blue_peg_16v]

get a gte fanimold and will be fine

[Curtoise]

hmm i think im just going to sell it tbh and possibly just get a backbox what systems can you get for the 1.2i? i see vaughan's one looks nice

[Curtoise]

is there anyway you can see on the old mot certificates what type of emissions it was?

[Saloony]

you need a manifold from an older nova 8v and then it looks like it'll bolt on.lol you tit, so what about the engine code, bolt on another?? lol

[blue_peg_16v]

any cat back system if you cant be assed with the messing about come mot time or take the system to a local exhaust place like powerflow and get them to mate the system to the cat

[Curtoise]

hmm cat back sounds good tbh

[blue_peg_16v]

lol you tit, so what about the engine code, bolt on another?? lol


grinder and punch set lol lol lol lol

[burgo]

no car needs a cat. but after a certain date they have to pass the cat equipped test!!

[Jack]

^ exactly.

TBH a 1.2i could probably pass emissions even without a cat. Simple solution would be to fit the exhaust, complete with decat; MOT it; if it fails emissions then put the old system back on and retest it.


no it says if the engine spec is unrecognizable ie near the engine number it dosent need a cat till 95 so if the grinder was to slip and remove that part of the engine number it wouldnt need a cat not that i would advocate this personaly id change the center section but keep the origional so i could re fit it for the mot
That rule is for import cars - if there's no UK equivalent, the BET only applies to cars from June (I think) 1995 onwards.

[Adam]

1.2i's cant pass the test with no cat, emissions are just too high (speaking from experience) Unless you fit an adjustable fpr and wind it right down lol

[nova1992]

Mines K and is 1992 too.

[novalicous]

1.2i's cant pass the test with no cat, emissions are just too high (speaking from experience) Unless you fit an adjustable fpr and wind it right down lol


MY OLD 1.4 PASSED WITH NO CAT WITH FLYING COLOURS namm capps lol

[Keif]

I have a Feb 1992 J-plate Nova.

K-Plates came in 1st Aug 1992.

I have a Nov 1992 K-Plate Lotus Carlton

The Nova is Cat-less, the LC has two Cats.

[Rich]

i think you need to leave some money for the mot tester on the passenger seat

[Adam]

MY OLD 1.4 PASSED WITH NO CAT WITH FLYING COLOURS namm capps lol
1.4spi? What year?

He must of made a mistake and put it on a non cat test tbh

[shaun4321]

late 1992 if it come out the factory with a cat it has to have a cat, end of story eny cat will do, wasnt till resent you now have to use "type aproved" cats on newer cars??

[Danny s-p]

ou only need a cat after 8/8/1992. my sis frende tolde me this as he work's for vosa and my saloon was put on the road on the 4/8/1992 and was on a k and didn't need a cat for mot:thumb:

[Curtoise]

not sure the mot tester would see it like that tho

[novalicous]

1.4spi? What year?

He must of made a mistake and put it on a non cat test tbh

k reg oct 92

[burgo]

am i really gonna have to scan in the wording from the MOT book. you do not need a CAT end of

[Curtoise]

do it burgo

[mowgli]

curtoise, face facts..... this bit of rusty pipe is not going to make your car faster, cat or not, it simply hasn't got enough power to need a performance system, the gte/gsi used the same diameter pipe for twice the power

[Curtoise]

yeh i know what your saying mowgli, it just i have this now so may as-well use it, plus it would sound better than rushing air lol. plus im going to hang on to the 1.2i for a while for cheapness.and my exhaust hangs silly low so wanted to sort that out while i had it off.

[Saloony]

am i really gonna have to scan in the wording from the MOT book. you do not need a CAT end of

No please dont, this is the most boring and most brought up subject there ever was on this site.

Correct no where in the MOT guide actually states that a car must be fitted with a cat. And nor does it have to pass a cat test, because its a fcuking emissions test :roll:

There are very few vehicles out there that full emissions test dont apply (see early suzuki's for details).

Fact is the cat is there to clean up the exhaust gases, no manufacture can make a car so lean that they can do away with cats all together, hence majority of new cars have pre-cats and cats.

A 92 Kplate Nova without a cat that was supposed to be fitted from factory is going to struggle on the proper test.

[maddogdaz666]

lol you tit, so what about the engine code, bolt on another?? lol
Yeah they all fit (ish) :roll: all nova 8v engines have the same mounting pattern, just slight differences at the end of the downpipe. and some have a Cat but you can use an older centre pipe to get rid of it!