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what do i need to run bike carbs on a 1400 8v ?
ive got the carbs and a manifold not sure what else i need.
ive used the search before someone says and it brought up a load of pap lol
cheers
is the 1400 originally a carb or injection model?
because you need the 1400 carb model coil, dizzy & wiring
mk1nova_rich
07-03-10, 07:54 PM
you may need to lower the alternator for clearance. you will also need a carb-specific fuel regulator and possibly a choke cable.
you didnt search very well then chap!!
if your cars already a carb then your fine on the igniton side but you will need
fuel pump and regulator
depending on what manifold your using you may need to adjust your altenator for clearance
throttle cable
choke cable
matt_vaughan
07-03-10, 11:54 PM
mark what carbs are you using?
nobbyz why the need for a fuel pump? just out of interest as i'm getting close to having all the parts for my conversion, just didnt know i needed a pump (i'm on a 1200 carb btw)
mark what carbs are you using?
nobbyz why the need for a fuel pump? just out of interest as i'm getting close to having all the parts for my conversion, just didnt know i needed a pump (i'm on a 1200 carb btw)
my bad here im thinking of my engine you still use the normal mechanical on these engines just use the fpr for correct fueling :thumb:
matt_vaughan
08-03-10, 09:38 AM
Ah right I thought so.
Mark, you'll need an FPR to bring fuel pressure to the right level (usually 3 PSI).
I'm using CBR900 fireblade carbs, which means the throttle linkage apparently fouls on the bonnet if I make the manifold runners long enough to clear the alternator, so I'll just be doing the old washer raise of the bonnet as I really dont want a tw4t scoop.
JordyzNova
08-03-10, 09:59 AM
i have a (fpr) on some bike carbs in my garage :roll:
Southie
08-03-10, 10:15 AM
You will need:
1. Carbs (what ones do you have?) Also make sure they are jetted correctly.
2. Inlet (Mine was made by bogg brothers)
http://i345.photobucket.com/albums/p379/SOUTHIE01/MINE/IMG_0249.jpg
3. Manual Dizzy setup to adjust your timing correctly
http://i345.photobucket.com/albums/p379/SOUTHIE01/MINE/IMG_0252.jpg
4. FPR (mine was a Filter King running at 3psi)
http://i345.photobucket.com/albums/p379/SOUTHIE01/MINE/IMG_0254.jpg
5. Manual choke cable (old skool) lol
6. Adjusted alternator bracket or maybe try a shorter belt, that's all I needed.
7. Also an air filter (I had a Pipercross sausage style one that cover all 4 carbs) I wouldn't get socks though as there very restricted unless you've cut your bonnet.
http://i345.photobucket.com/albums/p379/SOUTHIE01/MINE/IMG_0251.jpg
A picture of my old one. (Still have the old setup) :d
http://i345.photobucket.com/albums/p379/SOUTHIE01/MINE/IMG_0029-1.jpg
the engine is an x14nz running mechanical fuel pump and a twin choke webber, ive got a 16sv small block in a mk2 astra im thinking about puttin in instead of the 1400......
the carbs are zx6r bike carbs, the manifold is a standard carb one modified to suit, what ignition system, coil, dizzy do i need to use ?
and apart from that i need a fpr, throttle and choke linkages and just get the carbs set up and rejetted ?
cheers for all your help btw :thumb:
if you dont have any ignition system yet id get megajolt and a ford edis set-up
matt_vaughan
08-03-10, 11:40 AM
Does anyone have any jet sizes which worked well for 1300/1400 engines. As far as I can tell, 135-145 is a good starting point for main jets, then work from there.
You will need throttle and choke cables, the linkages should be on the carbs. The cables needed should be universal type ones with the little barrel on the end of them, i know they are on my CBR ones.
i have but its a 1.2 dizzy and ignition, i didnt have the 1400 dizzy to start with so i used a kent ast1 cam and the 1.2 dizzy.
what about the 1600 dizzy n ignition ? how do i check it its advanceable ??
matt_vaughan
08-03-10, 11:54 AM
Clicky (http://www.turbosport.co.uk/showthread.php?103402-X-flow-on-Yamaha-R1-carbs) - Very Good Read, and a sort of guide from a member on TurboSport
Southie
08-03-10, 02:37 PM
Also here is a PDF from Total Vauxhall when they visited the Bogg Brothers CLICKY (http://www.totalvauxhall.co.uk/resources/totalvauxhall/TOV64.tech60697.pdf)
novarallychris
08-03-10, 03:35 PM
hi i also need sum in put on bike carbs im after a manifold for a 1200 to fit bike carbs thanks chris :p
hi i also need sum in put on bike carbs im after a manifold for a 1200 to fit bike carbs thanks chris :p
there really is no point on fitting them to a 1200, unless you like spending on petrol, is it a 1200st carb, or a 1.2i
novarallychris
08-03-10, 03:50 PM
there really is no point on fitting them to a 1200, unless you like spending on petrol, is it a 1200st carb, or a 1.2i hi its a 1200 st i no haw to get a lot ov power out them just fort ad tri sum bike carbs for a chanj thanks chris
hi its a 1200 st i no haw to get a lot ov power out them just fort ad tri sum bike carbs for a chanj thanks chris
SITE RULES - NO TXT SHYT TYP
I would dearly love to know how to get loads of power out of a 1.2, please enlighten us
novarallychris
08-03-10, 04:09 PM
SITE RULES - NO TXT SHYT TYP
I would dearly love to know how to get loads of power out of a 1.2, please enlighten us hi put a 1300 cam shaft in it 1600 clinder hed 1600 twin choke carb on it and nok the timing back one tooth on the belt and then tern the dizzy forwerd about 1 digree just lisen to the engine note it will race you wont it just in betwin I HAD NOVAS SINS I WOS 16 AM NAW 27 AND STILL BIYNG THEM SO DONE A LOT OV WORK ON THEM AND PISST AROUND WIVE DIFRENT ENGINES :p
Southie
08-03-10, 04:10 PM
hi id ad a gray nova wich i sold about two years a go i sold im wonting it back if eney one nos this car can you get back to me i will pay good money for her back the reg is F572 SFU THANKS CHRIS:p
Same surname as this guy lol
http://www.gaj-it.com/wp-content/uploads/iphone-rick-astley.jpg
ibtl.
and yes, my copter is roffling...
novarallychris
08-03-10, 04:15 PM
SITE RULES - NO TXT SHYT TYP
I would dearly love to know how to get loads of power out of a 1.2, please enlighten us hi put a 1300 cam shaft in it a 1600 cilinder hed on it a 1600 carb on it nok the timeing back one tooth and ter the dizzy back 1 digree wen you do this the engine will race get it in the midel you will now by lisning to it if you done it right you will live 1600 novas for ded i youster beet rs turbo in myn
something about a 1600 being dead, getting dizzy in dungarees and then living with a rooster on a beetroot farm?
novarallychris
08-03-10, 04:42 PM
something about a 1600 being dead, getting dizzy in dungarees and then living with a rooster on a beetroot farm?hay it a masing wot a 1200 will do
First, last and ONLY warning regarding your typing 'skills' (or lack of)
read the rules and try again.
note that lot of mods alone on a 1200 is crap... try building it properly without a crappy twinchoke carb on there.
novarallychris
08-03-10, 04:50 PM
First, last and ONLY warning regarding your typing 'skills' (or lack of)
read the rules and try again.
note that lot of mods alone on a 1200 is crap... try building it properly without a crappy twinchoke carb on there.hi wot av i dun rong and all race you eney time in a 1200 and show you a proper car lol
text typing... do you not know you have a full keyboard infront of you.
izit race tiem.... wikkkkkkid. :wall:
if it is a former leading light in the rally business, then i am shocked.
if it is a former leading light in the rally business, then i am shocked.
when was he ever a leading light? or am I just being a cnut lol
This chap I do believe is mentally retarded or something of a similar disability
He didn't even get it when I was taking the piss :(
novarallychris
08-03-10, 05:00 PM
when was he ever a leading light? or am I just being a cnut lol
This chap I do believe is mentally retarded or something of a similar disability all av non ov that fella
have a holiday, learn to type and try again
right, back to what i was saying.
how do i tell if the dizzy is an advanceable one ?
right, back to what i was saying.
how do i tell if the dizzy is an advanceable one ?
Try and advance it, if it works you're onto a winner lol Usually the entire dizzy unit will twist after you undo the bolt that presses it against the block via that plate with a bent bit in it.
all av non ov that fella
Have to agree - calling someone retarded is a bit harsh - maybe not everyone can spell perfectly?
Would say re ignition that megajolt is definately much better (in my opinion) than the 1400 dizzy, having run both.
Try and advance it, if it works you're onto a winner lol Usually the entire dizzy unit will twist after you undo the bolt that presses it against the block via that plate with a bent bit in it.
my standard 1200 one does that yet people say you need to get a 1400 dizzy because the 1200 isnt advanceable ?? so i could use my 1200 dizzy for bike carbs ????
my standard 1200 one does that yet people say you need to get a 1400 dizzy because the 1200 isnt advanceable ?? so i could use my 1200 dizzy for bike carbs ????
1400 dizzy will be so it fits the cam, 1.2 will be slotted, 1400 is most likely pin drive.
1400 dizzy will be so it fits the cam, 1.2 will be slotted, 1400 is most likely pin drive.
atm ive got a kent ast1 cam on a 1200 dizzy which are both slot and dot.....
sounds fine to me then unless someone knows of some other issue with it, the difference with yours will be the cam which is for a different drive to usual... but anyway, roll with that imo, 12st dizzys are definitely adjustable :)
sounds fine to me then unless someone knows of some other issue with it, the difference with yours will be the cam which is for a different drive to usual... but anyway, roll with that imo, 12st dizzys are definitely adjustable :)
sweeeet, just need the rest of the bits now :thumb:
matt_vaughan
08-03-10, 05:49 PM
Your cam means you can run the 1200 ignition. The need for a 1400 carb ignition is when using 1400 cams, as the drive is different to 1200s.
Your cam means you can run the 1200 ignition. The need for a 1400 carb ignition is when using 1400 cams, as the drive is different to 1200s.
aftermarket cams are usually pegged & slotted..
sorted, i mite get a higher lift cam eventualy but the ast1 will do for now.
cheers lads :thumb:
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