View Full Version : bring back the nova
dave watson
20-02-10, 11:11 AM
do you think vauxhall should bring the nova back into production like a new modern nova or do you think they should leave it alone
EDIT when i say bring back novas i mean like a new nova not re make a nova like a whole new car
LEWI007
20-02-10, 11:14 AM
I think if they brought it back it'd propably have plastic wings and loads of electrics inside.
Would be good if they still made the proper thing though.
In africa you can still buy a brand new mk1 golf.
Southie
20-02-10, 11:18 AM
The nova would have to be totally butchered to pass the encap safety I.e airbags, impact bars...
... Corsa.
dave watson
20-02-10, 11:27 AM
how do you get one of them poll things on
LEWI007
20-02-10, 11:28 AM
Thread tools in the top right i think.
dave watson
20-02-10, 11:29 AM
Thread tools in the top right i think.
done it chears
Vausey_Nova_Knotla
20-02-10, 11:31 AM
would be nice to see a brand spanker no round bull **** though still nice square and bold but yer would have to be all electrical and would prob end up looking like some space age bolox
LEWI007
20-02-10, 11:32 AM
Its hard to vote, because if bringing it back meant they'd have to put airbags and all the rest of that rubbish then id say no. but if it could be made again in its original form then id say yes lol
dave watson
20-02-10, 11:40 AM
Its hard to vote, because if bringing it back meant they'd have to put airbags and all the rest of that rubbish then id say no. but if it could be made again in its original form then id say yes lol
but when i say bring bak i meen modernising all electronics
Fukk off!
Why !?
This is ACTUALLY a Vauxhall nova forum, people do come on here to talk about nova's not to get crap posts like that.
Too many non nova owners on hear slagging them off laterly.
I'd like to see them remade but sadly it's never going to happen as there would not be a market for them.
Why !?
but sadly it's never going to happen as there would not be a market for them.
Exactly that reason!
Too many delusional Nova owners on here thinking they are the best thing since the proverbial sliced!!
Most people are going to think there good on hear thats why they joined the forum :confused:
People slagging Nova's off on here is like going to church on a Sunday and saying you hate god lol
LMAO!
I'm not slagging Novas off at all.
Im slagging the people!
The majority know full well that Vauxhall will never ever, ever, ever, re-invent the Nova. (Apart form that one time, they made a Corsa!)
So, the stupid question doesn't get asked!
We all know, Novas are sh1te, but that's their appeal!!!
Stop kidding yourself!
lol It is still made in a a way, the Corsa.
If we had gotten the Corsa A instead of calling it a Nova then you would have never asked this question.
The 'D' is the equivalent of what a small, cheap car needs to be these days, so that's what the Nova has evolved into.
I agree it was a silly question.
They are little crap things but I for one really enjoy driving them.
spanishfly
20-02-10, 12:09 PM
I've said no, as by modern standards for your average person a nova is the last choice!
Also if you mean in a retro style such as the Mini and FIat 500 then it won't happen either as it was never an iconic car.
Ermmm Corsa a, corsa b, corsa c, cor............
The nova is still in production but modernised.
If they re-bought the nova out
only us lot on png are going to want to buy it
personally i wouldn't buy one is it isn't the same really,
like when they re-bought out the Raleigh chopper
It just wasn't the original IMO
Vausey_Nova_Knotla
20-02-10, 12:23 PM
id say yes even air bags so on aslong as it looked same
Could never look the same due to NCAP passenger and pedestrian safety requirements for a start. Sad but true.
General Baxter
20-02-10, 12:51 PM
LMAO!
I'm not slagging Novas off at all.
i am there **** lol
http://www.tuning4u.be/contents/media/corsa%20d.jpg
End. lol
The Nova wouldn't be able to even retain its shape as the pillars would be too weak to survive modern rollover tests, and the front isn't pedestrian-friendly enough. If they could blatt one out, nobody would buy it even with modern equipment as the only people who like Novas are us, and the majority of us can't afford to buy a £2500 mint SR let alone (what would no doubt be) a £10k brand new car. Even if we all bought one, that wouldn't be enough to warrant GM selling them. As said, the Fiat 500 worked as it had that retro appeal which the Nova doesn't have. Lots of older people may look back on them and say "yes, I had one of those in 1984", but I doubt that would be enough to make them go out and buy a "new" one.
In a fantasy world, tbh I probably still wouldn't want one. I've moved on, unfortunately whilst the Nova is a fun little car and I am entertained by my V6, the GT-Four is my main car and that comes first. If I had to sell both cars and replace with one, it certainly wouldn't be a Nova.
[awaits all the "why are you an admin if you hate novas" comments lol]
Also, in addition to the above, think about what happens when stuff is brought back. The new star wars films were sh!t, Indiana Jones was sh!t, Wispa bars... ok they were nice, but you could only eat so many of them lol
[Awaited response]Why are you an admin if you hate nova's.[/Awaited response] lol
L33 LEG
20-02-10, 04:57 PM
As said, the corsa D is the modern nova. isnt hard to work that out.
If the question was do you think they should bring out a modern nova which was basically the same car as the nova then that would be a stupid question. There's no way it would ever pass the tests on safety and whatever and nobody would actually buy a 20 year old design car for the same price as a new car...
[Awaited response]Why are you an admin if you hate nova's.[/Awaited response] lol
So I can ban you :) xx
sparkie1401
20-02-10, 05:15 PM
my mum has a brand new Nova on the driveway, oh sorry thats a corsa D lol
id love it if you could buy a bran spanka from mexico or somewhere stupid
NovaLad
20-02-10, 05:20 PM
Don't know what anyone else put but if they did bring back a nova that was identical on the outside with the driving experience of a nova but had all up to date electrics etc... i'd buy 1!
sparkie1401
20-02-10, 05:30 PM
:thumb:
Don't know what anyone else put but if they did bring back a nova that was identical on the outside with the driving experience of a nova but had all up to date electrics etc... i'd buy 1!
agree FTW
novaload1992
20-02-10, 05:35 PM
As said, the corsa D is the modern nova. isnt hard to work that out.
If the question was do you think they should bring out a modern nova which was basically the same car as the nova then that would be a stupid question. There's no way it would ever pass the tests on safety and whatever and nobody would actually buy a 20 year old design car for the same price as a new car...
what he said.
though on a different note i feel they should bring back old ads way of sellings things (if that makes sense to you). NOVA'S TAKEN OVA and ONCE DRIVEN FOREVER SMITTEN with a guitar riff in the background.:thumb:
1.9 cdti nova :cool:
But my answer is no, it was a design suited to its own time period.
But they should bring back new genuine parts such as chassis legs, quarters etc.
this is the gayest thread in weeks.. :S
pikey1986
20-02-10, 05:58 PM
this is the gayest thread in weeks.. :S
:thumb:
The nova would have to be totally butchered to pass the encap safety I.e airbags, impact bars...
... Corsa.
sell it as a kit car ;)
Joe Richardson
20-02-10, 07:19 PM
Im going to say no,as the nova is a proper 80's/90's car :)
They would loose the retro,oldskool image they now own if they brought out new ones !!!!!!:thumb:
Joe
The rarity & how cráp they are make then what they are.
But im also with Stoo on the "Fcuk off" answer.
JordyzNova
20-02-10, 07:33 PM
id say defo no but would be kool get a standerd nova ((gte-R ))with a valver in !lol
sulphur
20-02-10, 07:37 PM
No. Just..no.
I 3rd the "Fcuk off" reply. :)
the last thing we need is a twee nouveau nova... with even more ironic burberry check and retro rally stickers
they would make it twice as heavy, with 2/3 of the interior space, and make it so complicated that the real fans will hate it, but their wives will love it.......like the 'new' mini or 500
sulphur
20-02-10, 07:45 PM
Similar to the 'new' mini, and 500, it'd be huge! Probably similar to a golf in size.
nova 2L 16V
20-02-10, 08:02 PM
Sorry if im repeting but we already have a nova its the corsa. But do any of you know why it was changed to the Corsa name? Well its because as you all know they were made in Spain and sales where poor in Spain because nova in spanish mean NO GO. So would you bye a car thats called a NO GO? And thats why they changed it. And they all lived happly ever after lol
Similar to the 'new' mini, and 500, it'd be huge! Probably similar to a golf in size.
And the new Ka, thats now the size of a Fiesta. The new Fiesta is now the same size as an old Focus. And the new Focus, its similiar in size to a damn Mondeo!
peester
20-02-10, 08:16 PM
bring back the chevette
General Baxter
20-02-10, 08:17 PM
Sorry if im repeting but we already have a nova its the corsa. But do any of you know why it was changed to the Corsa name? Well its because as you all know they were made in Spain and sales where poor in Spain because nova in spanish mean NO GO. So would you bye a car thats called a NO GO? And thats why they changed it. And they all lived happly ever after lol
my god, we never knew that :eek:
Sorry if im repeting but we already have a nova its the corsa. But do any of you know why it was changed to the Corsa name? Well its because as you all know they were made in Spain and sales where poor in Spain because nova in spanish mean NO GO. So would you bye a car thats called a NO GO? And thats why they changed it. And they all lived happly ever after lol
you really are full of sh1t aren't you...
nova really doesn't mean no go. in fact gm sold loads of chevy novas in mexico which is a spanish speaking country.....link (http://spanish.about.com/cs/culture/a/chevy_nova.htm)
there was even a popular brand of leaded petrol in latin america called NOVA
nova is more connected to the word nueva which means NEW
the reason it was called the corsa in europe & nova here, was because there was an obscure toyota car that was already called the corsa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Tercel) that was sold in the UK..
now sod off & try to research facts instead of regurgitating internet bullsh!t legends
daverobson
20-02-10, 08:24 PM
^^^^ lollol
Could you not buy one from that field in spain then register it here???:confused: :roll: lol
blue_peg_16v
20-02-10, 08:40 PM
sorry but no as said by jack it would be 10k for a 1.2 and lets face it 1.2s are dull so we would the rip it to bits and fit a 150k mile xe just to make it move so weres the point in a brand new one, yes the shell would be clean but you can get a very straight shell for at most 1k so whats the point in spending another 9k for essentialy the same thing, as most people on here would throw all the poverty spec stuff like interior suspension brakes etc in the bin.
also as stated by others there is no way it would be able to meat safty standards.
Think about it right. As old an sh1t as Mk1/2 Escorts are (old & sh1t by current modern car standards) they are only sought after, an adored by car nuts because there age, rarity & obscurity. And there current price reflects that.
IF the Mk1/2's Escorts were released, everyone an there dag would be buying them up parts & shell's which would lower the current value of genuine existing old skool models. Bad for the people that currently own them, good for the people who actually want one.
So why the hell do some of you lot want to reincarnate an obscure, boxy, sh1tter of an old car that will merely de-value the ones you currently own??
Thats not even including the fact Mr GM was pÃ*ss his pants even if you gave him anal in the hope that he'd re-produce a car thats had its day, many, many MANY years ago.
P.S. Mowgli for President!
bring back the chevette
Thats more like it :d
Thats more like it :d
Saw a Chevette today actually. An a GT500 replica on a trailer going Northbound M6.
Saw a Chevette today actually. An a GT500 replica on a trailer going Northbound M6.
big trailer then
craig green
20-02-10, 09:18 PM
I dont doubt that people would buy a new Nova if it was available, but it would be so few people & yes it would be utterly laughable if GM ever caught wind of this thread at a board meeting.
General Baxter
20-02-10, 09:24 PM
I dont doubt that people would buy a new Nova if it was available, but it would be so few people & yes it would be utterly laughable if GM ever caught wind of this thread at a board meeting.
Dear Mr GM
you made a little **** car called a corsa A in the 1980's. dont you ****ing dare make another one
jakeufton
21-02-10, 12:50 AM
no one would buy one anyway you can get a mint nova for 5grand an i mean perfect if gm made say 100 novas again fot the crack theyd be at least 8 grand each to cover costs and over heads and not one of you on here or anywhere would pay,,, so no never bring the nova back once there dead and gone then thats it,, give it 5 years and theyll be as rare as mk1 escorts then soon after will be a loss of interest then thatll be it :(
1990 = vauxhall nova gsi
2010 = vauxhall corsa vxr
its still here but newer. ive got a gsi and the only other vauxhall id buy would be the vxr corsa, its still a decendent of my nova :)
vauxluva
21-02-10, 08:19 AM
The nova would have to be totally butchered to pass the encap safety I.e airbags, impact bars...
... Corsa. look at the ford mustang,old school rules in my eyes leave well alone,:cool:
Ford Mustang is a good example of a car that got reinstated back to the classic style with a modern twist.
if gm made say 100 novas again fot the crack theyd be at least 8 grand each to cover costs and over heads
For them to be £8k ech, they'd need to build at least 100,000 of them - a run of 100 would probably make them £80k each to cover costs lol
Think a LOT more Jack...
Some of the first off current shape trannies were 'valued' in at around £150K.
Just stop with these ****ting 'get GM to make a huge loss on making an 80's 5hitbox' lol
twistysnovagte
21-02-10, 11:17 AM
i votes, "DONT bring back the nova" (well they wouldnt anyway would they Lol).
i mean they wouldnt be old skool if they were brought back!
leave well alone and LOL to who(craig i think?) said about GM getting hold of this thread at the board meeting.
can just imaging them actualy all sat there laughing there socks why the crank with the little stick is pointing at his picture board about what changes will be made bla bla bla
CLOSE THIS THREAD lmao
as has been said, they do still make the nova, in the shape of the corsa D. and it would be crap if they made some more that looked like the MK1/2 cos they would either ruin it with modern crap, or even if they were made exactly the same, no1 would buy them. :tard:
LEWI007
21-02-10, 12:42 PM
It would be better if you could still buy a brand new bodyshell, or even just buy all brand new panels for them so we could rebuild old shells.
Can some one just close this thread, theres enough dangerously lethal cars on the road as it is.
General Baxter
21-02-10, 12:59 PM
Can some one just close this thread, theres enough dangerously lethal cars on the road as it is.
sorry :cry:
The only way they could get off with re-making the Nova would be in kit car form and in reality I can't see a massive market for a box when you could have a Caterham lol
dave watson
21-02-10, 03:42 PM
when i said remake the nova i ment a whole new design and and modern and i do not mean a corsa lol
the nova is a corsa though ?!?!?!?! hence opel corsa 'A' in the rest of europe
damnit mayhem, beat me to it lol
dave watson
21-02-10, 03:48 PM
the nova is a corsa though ?!?!?!?! hence opel corsa 'A' in the rest of europe
i no a nova is a corsa but a corsa isnt a nova in my opinion lol
craig green
21-02-10, 03:49 PM
There was talk of calling the new Agila 'Nova'. Glad they didnt tbh, its not a bad car like the 1st one was, but the Nova is kinda legendary & best left that way, aswell as being confused withe US Chevy Nova, which is also a cult car in the states.
Jackroadkill
21-02-10, 08:47 PM
No.
That's all there is to it. Just no.
scoobynova
21-02-10, 09:56 PM
Bring it back so parts will be more readily available
No.
That's all there is to it. Just no.
Agreed the nova has a legendary status so it shouldnt be disturbed.
blue_peg_16v
21-02-10, 10:48 PM
i wouldnt say legendary not the nova id say more infamous due to the chav and boyracer explosion
i like the little rot box but its not a legendary car
205 is legendary, Nova isn't lol
nova 2L 16V
22-02-10, 06:31 PM
Posted by MOWGLI
you really are full of sh1t aren't you...
nova really doesn't mean no go. in fact gm sold loads of chevy novas in mexico which is a spanish speaking country.....link (http://spanish.about.com/cs/culture/a/chevy_nova.htm)
there was even a popular brand of leaded petrol in latin america called NOVA
nova is more connected to the word nueva which means NEW
the reason it was called the corsa in europe & nova here, was because there was an obscure toyota car that was already called the corsa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Tercel) that was sold in the UK..
now sod off & try to research facts instead of regurgitating internet bullsh!t legends
MY REPLY
The reason I said what I said is because it was in a pub quize once and Il never forget the answere that NOVA DOES mean DOESNT GO in SPANISH. If you dont belive me then google it before you jump the gun. FACT
MY REPLY
The reason I said what I said is because it was in a pub quize once and Il never forget the answere that NOVA DOES mean DOESNT GO in SPANISH. If you dont belive me then google it before you jump the gun. FACT
I was at a pub quiz once...
The qeustion was, what is the moon made out of?
I answered "cheese".
I was only fcuking right.
Posted by MOWGLI
you really are full of sh1t aren't you...
nova really doesn't mean no go. in fact gm sold loads of chevy novas in mexico which is a spanish speaking country.....link (http://spanish.about.com/cs/culture/a/chevy_nova.htm)
there was even a popular brand of leaded petrol in latin america called NOVA
nova is more connected to the word nueva which means NEW
the reason it was called the corsa in europe & nova here, was because there was an obscure toyota car that was already called the corsa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Tercel) that was sold in the UK..
now sod off & try to research facts instead of regurgitating internet bullsh!t legends
MY REPLY
The reason I said what I said is because it was in a pub quize once and Il never forget the answere that NOVA DOES mean DOESNT GO in SPANISH. If you dont belive me then google it before you jump the gun. FACT
If its on google, it must be right!
Do you know what an "urban legend" is? Lol
Posted by MOWGLI
you really are full of sh1t aren't you...
nova really doesn't mean no go. in fact gm sold loads of chevy novas in mexico which is a spanish speaking country.....link (http://spanish.about.com/cs/culture/a/chevy_nova.htm)
there was even a popular brand of leaded petrol in latin america called NOVA
nova is more connected to the word nueva which means NEW
the reason it was called the corsa in europe & nova here, was because there was an obscure toyota car that was already called the corsa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Tercel) that was sold in the UK..
now sod off & try to research facts instead of regurgitating internet bullsh!t legends
MY REPLY
The reason I said what I said is because it was in a pub quize once and Il never forget the answere that NOVA DOES mean DOESNT GO in SPANISH. If you dont belive me then google it before you jump the gun. FACT
show me a link for the translation of nova please. cos if you'd bothered to read my links, you will have seen that i did google it for backup for my reply............
i might just start a thread on crap pub quiz questions & answers
most of the bullsh!t i've ever heard was in pubs & the rest is on your posts on this thread
General Baxter
22-02-10, 07:05 PM
most of the bullsh!t i've ever heard was in pubs
sloth has never been to a mids meet ?
nova 2L 16V
22-02-10, 07:10 PM
http://spanish.about.com/cs/culture/a/chevy_nova.htm
http://www.snopes.com/business/misxlate/nova.asp
http://spanish.about.com/cs/culture/a/chevy_nova.htm
Posted by MOWGLI
you really are full of sh1t aren't you...
nova really doesn't mean no go. in fact gm sold loads of chevy novas in mexico which is a spanish speaking country.....link (http://spanish.about.com/cs/culture/a/chevy_nova.htm)
there was even a popular brand of leaded petrol in latin america called NOVA
nova is more connected to the word nueva which means NEW
the reason it was called the corsa in europe & nova here, was because there was an obscure toyota car that was already called the corsa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Tercel) that was sold in the UK..
now sod off & try to research facts instead of regurgitating internet bullsh!t legends
MY REPLY
The reason I said what I said is because it was in a pub quize once and Il never forget the answere that NOVA DOES mean DOESNT GO in SPANISH. If you dont belive me then google it before you jump the gun. FACT
and if you had actually been
1. clever enough to read my post & tried the link
2. bothered to check that the link you found was the same link as you 'found' as proof
3. actually read it to discover that nova does not mean 'doesn't go' on the same way as carpet is not the same as 'car pet', or notable is not the same as 'no table'
4. then you would realise that I am, in fact, correct & you are wrong.
nova 2L 16V
22-02-10, 07:20 PM
Forget about it, NO VA does mean DOESNT GO but NOVA doesnt yes I know but its a fact that the chevvy nova sold poorly because spanish speking poeple automaticly thought of it as NO VA = poor sales Im I not right in saying this?
red-nova89
22-02-10, 07:26 PM
they should keep making parts but dont bring it back
they'l screw it up lol
Forget about it, NO VA does mean DOESNT GO but NOVA doesnt yes I know but its a fact that the chevvy nova sold poorly because spanish speking poeple automaticly thought of it as NO VA = poor sales Im I not right in saying this?
http://www.snopes.com/business/misxlate/nova.asp
the sales were fine in all south american markets, there is no proof that they were poor & got better by a simple name change...
back to basics now....
to say no va means no go is really bad pidgin spanish & the sort of thing that a non spanish speaker will try to explain that something doesn't work... no spanish speaker over the age of 2 will say anything like that, because it is such poor language..........
get used to the fact that NOVA NEVER MEANT NO GO ANYWHERE EXCEPT IN URBAN MYTHOLOGY....
ps. I have spanish speaking & mexican relatives..
General Baxter
22-02-10, 07:31 PM
+ rep for the grandad war lol
google told me:
no va means will not in spanish.
does not go in spanish: no va más
thank you, bye bye.
nova_niek
23-02-10, 03:12 AM
LOL
Having a reet larf over this whole argument. Whoever was on the nova_owners mailing list (preceded by onegroups IIRC) back in the day, we had the exact same raging debate going on. Good fun that was.
At the time, rumour had it that GM Spain had a shedload of newly produced, unsold Nova's sitting outside the factory. That (unfortunately?) was not true.
Back in '98 some of us visited the Zaragoza factory, only to find lots of Corsa B's being produced. BTW this was a great trip and I'd love to see someone organise something like this again. :thumb: Anyway the only new Nova (or Corsa A if you wish as it was LHD) we found, was in the factory lobby. And it was a bog standard 1.2 - nothing fancy to celebrate 3,107,000 something Nova's build.
As for bringing back parts - yes I'd appreciate that. Just keep nagging at your friendly Vauxhall dealer - as long as demand continues to live, some bright soul at GM will start making replacement parts again. As an example: Kawasaki occasionally does a run of 4 into 4 exhausts for the ancient Z900/Z1 bike of the early '70s
Did you know you can still get virtually ANY body panel for any Mercedes Benz NEW from them? If you want to restore a 1959 170D, you simply visit your local Merc dealership and order whatever you need. The only downside is that you have to bring your first born to pay for the lot. Oh well...
So as far as I'm concerned YES to OEM replacement parts (this includes shells) and NO to new Nova's/Corsa A's.
Just remember how VW brought the Beetle back (from Mexico) in the '80s. It never was the hit it was in the '50s/'60s/'70s. Point made. I'm going back to bed now. Thanks for reading. Goodnight everyone. :cool:
I think someone should try and build a Nova out of patern parts!
lol
mk1nova_rich
23-02-10, 07:49 AM
No to new Novas, maybe to new bodyshells if they could be produced cheaply enough but yes to repair panels such as chassis legs etc.
SR Kyle
23-02-10, 09:25 AM
no because it wouldnt be a nova would it .they already did... corsa lol
I think someone should try and build a Nova out of patern parts!
lol
thats how they built them in the first place
google told me:
no va means will not in spanish.
does not go in spanish: no va más
thank you, bye bye.
will not is not the same as no go......
no go is bad english, it looks right, but isn't
blue_peg_16v
23-02-10, 12:30 PM
I think someone should try and build a Nova out of patern parts!
lol
have you seen the show chop cut rebuild the build a full camero from pattern parts on that
SR Kyle
23-02-10, 01:14 PM
could you still get all the pattern parts to do this?
would be good to see the nova back but like people are saying to much health and saftey and **** so they will proberly just kill it if owt
could you still get all the pattern parts to do this?
They don't supply enough. No wheelhouse (inner arch and strut turret). Thinking about it you can barely get any parts lol.
I would like to do that with a VW bus one day though. lol
Whoever was on the nova_owners mailing list (preceded by onegroups IIRC) back in the day, we had the exact same raging debate going on. Good fun that was.
I remember that group! Yikes I feel old lol
nova_niek
24-02-10, 04:03 AM
I remember that group! Yikes I feel old lol
:cool: Spot on! Went to my friendly optician for reading glasses yesterday... nuff said!
will not is not the same as no go......
no go is bad english, it looks right, but isn't
i know ;) now that this myth is solved, can it be deleted from the internet?
it's the same as the shell myth.. i'm getting bored of hearing it.
for the parts... there are parts available thrue non official dealers, i can get hold of new GM doors, but the price aint funny:tard:
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