Engine Removal

[ianglanister]

Just wondering if its a massive job to remove a 1600 SPI engine from a cavalier? Its a weird one as its a 1600 and half way down the engine its got the sticker stating the enigine code which is a 1.6 however its got the 2L rocker cover which is bigger than the 1.6 so i can only guess its got a 2L head is that possible? Basically i am going to rebuild the engine and do a full re spray on the car just wondering if its a majoy job to remove the engine and whats the best way to do it? or anyone around Newton/St Helens/Warrington want to give me a price for removing it? and then after a month of so fitting it again? Cheers

[General Baxter]

sounds like a large block 1600 with about 70bhp lol

[ianglanister]

in the haynes manual shows how the 1600's changed from mk2 to mk3. the engines did change slightly but the head on the mk3 1600 engine is nothing like mine:S

[General Baxter]

whats the engine code ?

[ianglanister]

c16 and then the rest has faded away. I have just found two pictures off different websites of the engines-
This is the 1.6 that mine should look like according to haynes-
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i218/demondriver12345/cav16enigine.jpg

This is the 2L 8V engine according to haynes-
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i218/demondriver12345/cav2L8vengine.jpg


Now the head on mine is the same as the 2L 8V and the dizzy etc is the same however i dont have all the injection bits behind the head its just the carb etc as the 1.6 should be, im very confused with it ha ha

[General Baxter]

its simple if its got a large rocker cover on,

its going to be a large block engine lol

[ianglanister]

would the 2L 8v head fit on the 1600 bottom end and gear box? if yes would it of made it alot quicker? or how will i find out exactly what it is, as when i do the rebuild i need to get the full gasket set etc so i dont want to be messing around and getting the wrong ones

[General Baxter]

the only way the head would of fitted, would be if the block is a large block

why are you playing about with spi anyway lol

[ianglanister]

its just how i got the car, wanted to clean all engine up as was a oil leak and just rebuild it up. this engine is confusing me now ha ha

[craig green]

sounds like a 1600 bigblock. Should be small clock with a C16 eng code & if it came from a post 88 car.

[ianglanister]

will get a picture of my engine tomorrow, as the missus off with the camera again and got get stuff ready for work tonight

cheers guys

[Guderian]

Definitely a wheeled hydraulic hoist i would say. With a mk2 cav what i did was, by and large, keep the hoist still, and wheel the car in and out of the area!

The wheels are horribly small on engine lifts and everything ends up swaying around if you move the hoist too much.

[ianglanister]

Here is a few pictures of my engine sorry took longer than thought.As you can see if you look at the previous engine pictures mine is like the 2L 8v but unsure? would there be any engine codes stamped on the head and on the bottom end so i can check all of it?
anyway here is the pics-
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i218/demondriver12345/SAM_1280.jpg
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i218/demondriver12345/SAM_1279.jpghttp://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i218/demondriver12345/SAM_1278.jpg
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i218/demondriver12345/SAM_1277.jpg

Any Help Appreciated.

[General Baxter]

thats a 1.8 spi, largeblock with 89bhp lol

[ianglanister]

is it a engine that was fitted to a mk3 cav do you know? just so when ordering parts will just have to say its a 1.8 SPi cav ye?

thanks for your knowledge

[Damo]

is it a engine that was fitted to a mk3 cav do you know? just so when ordering parts will just have to say its a 1.8 SPi cav ye?

thanks for your knowledge

Yes mate was proberbly the most common engine fitted to the mk3 cavalier mate very rare they were 1.6 or 2.0lts.

[ianglanister]

on log book its a 1598cc very confused the guy who i bought it off was approx 40 so doubt he would of done it, or he would of put it on the advert:S

[burgo]

could be a 1.6 big block. i can only assume they are spi also as ive never seen one

[Damo]

could be a 1.6 big block. i can only assume they are spi also as ive never seen one

They were all small block spi's burgo in the mk3 cav the only ones that were big block were the very early carb ones i think.

[ianglanister]

ye i think you are right as the 1.6 in haynes looks nothing like the rocker on mine. and i ordered a rocker cover gasket for the 1.6 as thats what i thought it was and it was too short so can only guess its a 1.8 like you say, will have to order another rocker cover gasket so will get the 1.8 and see

[daverobson]

SOME ONE I WORKED WITH HAD A '1600' CAV AND THAT TURNED OUT TO HAVE A 1800 IN (sorry caps)

[ianglanister]

Wasnt a light blue L reg saloon was it? ha ha

[General Baxter]

1.6 or 1.8, would not even mess about with it, underpower'd POS that they are

[mowgli]

someone on here said that a few 1600 mk3 cavs were big block, but i can't remember who

[burgo]

someone on here said that a few 1600 mk3 cavs were big block, but i can't remember whoi always thought the mk3 1600 were big blocks but apparently not :confused: