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Cut a long story short, i currently have a 20 tonne pile of crush blocking a public foothpath due to some stupid w@nker tipper driver not listening to instructions.
What kinda sh1t am i now liable for?
napalm_27
05-02-10, 04:28 PM
make sure you but a barrier warning tape etc round it!! then im sure its not a problem as long as its not there for ages
None if you get it shifted before anyone complains. lol
napalm_27
05-02-10, 04:30 PM
or just put a sign up about it being a company/council's business then no one can say sh!t all about it lol lol lol
Gashgusher
05-02-10, 04:32 PM
get a shovel
None if you get it shifted before anyone complains. lol
The police have already taken a keen interest :(
Theres 4 skips & a further 15 tonne of matierials due to be delivered tomorrow :(
get a shovel
Already got a mini digger & JCB there shifting it.
napalm_27
05-02-10, 04:34 PM
The police have already taken a keen interest :(
Theres 4 skips & a further 15 tonne of matierials due to be delivered tomorrow :(
ok get a few more shuvel's lol
blue_peg_16v
05-02-10, 04:43 PM
get a biggger digger
brainsnova
05-02-10, 04:45 PM
get a decent digger driver lol
Pistol Pete
05-02-10, 04:48 PM
Be more forceful with your instructions in future lol
mike, did you sign for it???? if no, then deny all knowledge of it, if yes, then get the vaseline out, its gonna hurt
mike, did you sign for it???? if no, then deny all knowledge of it, if yes, then get the vaseline out, its gonna hurt
You might have just saved my @ss hole from a royal shafting! Plausable deniability is a sure fire winner!
get a decent digger driver lol
Got one, he works for one of the Midlands biggest demolition contractors.
Its no the issue of moving it, its the fact that its been tipped where it shouldnt have been tipped to start with!
Not my damn day today, just opened the mail & have an £80 fine from the DVLA. Also expecting a visit from plod from an escapade last night :cry:
when told to get a good digger driver............
Got one, he works for one of the Midlands biggest demolition contractors.
i'm sorry, but your statement is a contradiction............ good digger drivers don't do demolition work....... poor to reasonable digger drivers do
when told to get a good digger driver............
i'm sorry, but your statement is a contradiction............ good digger drivers don't do demolition work....... poor to reasonable digger drivers do
Thats all the work hes found local at the minute Mow. Normally he works away from home an no one see's him for months on end, but his wife & horses wern't to pleased about that.
EDIT: Altho he did once get a 40 tonne qaurry dumper on its side, so might not actually be that good?
You have to be given "reasonable time" to remove the blockage. Suffice to say the fuzz won't rock up and tell you to shift the mess yesterday; as long as you explain the caboodle was dropped there by mistake and you're working to shift it will be fine. They won't expect you to move 15t of guff with a mini digger in a few minutes.
You have to be given "reasonable time" to remove the blockage. Suffice to say the fuzz won't rock up and tell you to shift the mess yesterday; as long as you explain the caboodle was dropped there by mistake and you're working to shift it will be fine. They won't expect you to move 15t of guff with a mini digger in a few minutes.
jack, its amazing what a mini digger will do if you are desparate.... i'd reckon a 1.5 tonner could do 15 tons in 10-15mins but a jcb would do it in 5 or less
Ive just been texted an told theres still about 5 tonne left on the pavement, which is good being as the space is massivly limited, as where its been shifted to is where ground works begin in the morning, so its all gotta be moved again :(
may I ask why a painter is doing groundworks??????
may I ask why a painter is doing groundworks??????
lol were not doing it so to speak, its a compelte self contained house rennovation that "were" doing. The external works is now all thats left to be completed. Consisting of a triple space driveway an double length garage.
mike, for next time... tipper drivers have the mentality of sheep.... they are thick, smelly & don't like going backwards.
do not believe their blather about where they can tip.. but I have to say, having an hgv class1 licence is handy when having the argument with one about just how difficult it is to back one in somewhere
^ will defiently have to remember that!! Cheers matey :)
i just read the crash thread.....
there is something wrong in the equilibrium of the world, when baxter has a crash on the m6 & you have a bust up with a lorry driver........
I was late arriving at site because i was stuck on the M6 lol i would have back in time for the tipper driver, instead i had to call him!
I blame Baxter!!
next time you encounter a wagon driver with a 'problem' start by listening to what he has to say, then answer him with this time honoured saying
'well in that case, you'd better 4 cough then'.....
his attitude will change instantly when he thinks he's got a load he can't tip
i'll make a groundworker out of you yet mike.
ps. currently I am working in our transport office running loads of bricks to building sites.. so I know what works when dealing with miserable prima donna drivers
'well in that case, you'd better 4 cough then'.....
:eek: :eek: I'd just jump in my wagon and head back to my depot lol
Prima donna drivers my ass, never heard such bloody cheek! :p
On the odd occurance I have to drive a tipper, I have been known to tip my load in the wrong place so the customer complains and I get taken off the tipper and put back on me brush... WIN! Sometimes it's not so good to tell a driver how to do their job, you could end up with 15 ton of materials in the wrong place............em so to speak.
:eek: :eek: I'd just jump in my wagon and head back to my depot lol
Prima donna drivers my ass, never heard such bloody cheek! :p
you drive to a farm, connect the pipe, press start, the farmers wife brings you the regulation cup of tea & you go.........
i'm on about site drivers......
for example.....
we have one who likes to be home really early, which isn't a bad idea.... but, he was in london dropping some bricks off, and we texted him with his collection details. he was meant to go to stoke on trent to collect 2 drops which would pay really well for the next day..... so all of a sudden his crane didn't work.......but when he rang me to tell me this, i could hear his satnav talking away to him...odd when you are stuckon a building site, i thought... so we diverted him to a crane wshop, which took him about 2hrs more than it should have.... then he rang us to say it was fixed, but he now wouldn't have enough time to get the stoke job..etc.......
when i rang the crane place, i found out that the crane worked perfectly when it arrived there, and there was a connection that had been removed by the driver to make the warning lights flash.....
so we spent a couple of hours sorting, changing & apologising with customers to alter his routes round... so he could go to visit someone about selling a dog......
On the odd occurance I have to drive a tipper, I have been known to tip my load in the wrong place so the customer complains and I get taken off the tipper and put back on me brush... WIN! Sometimes it's not so good to tell a driver how to do their job, you could end up with 15 ton of materials in the wrong place............em so to speak.
we start by showing them where we want it & asking them to tip it there. if they refuse, i ask them why and explain to them that it is safe, solid, and i wouldn't have asked them to tip it there if i didn't think it was safe to do so. if they still refuse, i explain why i know its safe, having done the job myself, if this still doesn't work, then I ask them to leave, with the load...
only if they get really shirty do i start the 4 cough method of things.
it takes a brave man to tell 10 tipper drivers to go away because they 'have been told they can't go off the concrete' even though the stone road was built to take 50tonnes.
Me no likey tippers. I'll stick with ma brush ta.
you drive to a farm, connect the pipe, press start, the farmers wife brings you the regulation cup of tea & you go......
Nope, never been offered a cup o tea in two years :(
Nope, never been offered a cup o tea in two years :(
it must be cos you're not local enough..........
sulphur
06-02-10, 10:16 PM
Must agree with mowgli, tipper drivers don't seem keen on following instructions, event though that's part of their job once they enter the site gates. Had many a bust up with drivers, the 4 cough method works best tbh.
Although, some can be too keen and it all falls back on them. For example, big site for a new super school, one way system running in 100mm clean, 1200ton for a nice piling platform. One driver decides to jump the queue and go round the other way, 5 others followed him..15 wagon traffic jam which led to said drivers reversing the whole way back which was roughly 900mtrs. Silly man ended up waiting to the very end, for f*cking everything up for us. lol
/\/\ my kind of building site
just don't get me going on mixer drivers though... they make tipper drivers look like milk tanker drivers.....
sulphur
06-02-10, 10:25 PM
^^ My only kind of site. Can't stand small jobs. :(
we've got a 4000m2 concrete yard job, and a massive grain store project coming up & on 8th jan, we sacked our haulage company manager for nicking & i got 'promoted' so now i stay clean & am office based...... i'm missing the groundworks bigtime
sulphur
06-02-10, 10:36 PM
I know a few lads who got 'promoted' from hands on foreman, to site agent. Every one of them asked to get back on tools. Don't think I could sit in an office. Deep drains, or concrete slabs is where you'll find me. Or anywhere in between either...lol
i spent 8 weeks on a site in solihull about 10 years ago where i was 'assistant agent', i set the site out, measured the materials, organised the groundworks, built the shuttering, put the bases in for this really complex steel building, it was great, apart from the day a brickie's labourer nicked my circular saw & cut up some shutter ply to make spots... his boss had asked me if they could, and i said no, so they waited till i'd got a mixer in & then did it.. i ran across the site, ripped the saw out of his hand and gave the bricky boss the bollocking of his life.....
later that afternoon, the agent came to me cos the brickies needed something marking out, but were afraid to come and ask me... i was the smallest bloke on the site, but they'd really pissed me off
its the whole pecking order & trades working against each other that got to me on the big sites..
Nope, never been offered a cup o tea in two years :(
the farmers view the drivers with suspicion, like there spying and reporting back to headquarters, i know im a X farmererlol
sulphur
06-02-10, 10:53 PM
Brickies seem to be the c0cks of the site, on every site I've been on. They're the messiest, most arrogant, sly f*ckers I've ever met. Second to them, roofers. Those silly tw@ts will put their goddamn cherry pickers anywhere..they'll stay away from one area for weeks, and as soon as we there they appear first thing.
Thing that annoys me more than anything on sites, is the arrogance towards age. With me being alot younger than most lads on site, my opinions or suggestions are often pushed aside and ignored, and that really pisses me off considering most of the time I'm right. Also makes me feel a bit of a tw@t when I have to give some fella 10-15yrs my senior a bollocking for doing something wrong. lol
just hit em wif a big stick, that how we do it up here!
sulphur
06-02-10, 11:01 PM
just hit em wif a big stick, that how we do it up here!
Well you're close enough to them weegies to act like 'em. lol
Well you're close enough to them weegies to act like 'em. lol
less than 12 miles:thumb:
the farmers view the drivers with suspicion, like there spying and reporting back to headquarters, i know im a X farmererlol
Thats cause all farmers are robbing bar stewards, if i turn my back they are trying to top the vats up with water lol
Thats cause all farmers are robbing bar stewards, if i turn my back they are trying to top the vats up with water lol
a farmer near leicester was doing that on a big scale.. the dairy introduced a freeze test, so he started putting salt in the milk, then a load from his place went for yoghurt...... and killed the yoghurt culture...
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