View Full Version : anyone on here ever owned an r5 turbo?
stroutsy
02-02-10, 11:01 PM
just wondering if anyone could tell me what the good and bad points are about them?
bad points horrendous french build quality, engine with a reputation for exploding...
good points: very few left now
Bad points are the engines are weak, good points are....
will get back to you.
My mate had 2, about 8 years ago, nightmare to work on but FAF!
He was one quoted £1800 for a head gasket changelol
Pretty quick in standard form
Too many people get them, put a bleed valve on turn up too much and bang.
Good mate had a high spec one few years back and was nothing but trouble tbh.
djbrowney
02-02-10, 11:06 PM
easiest engine in the world to work on but it needs to be beacsue it will be broken every 5 mins lol
Leave the boost at sensible levels and they won't blow HG's etc.
They aren't a bad design but too many were raped by clueless fools.
blue_peg_16v
02-02-10, 11:08 PM
i never bought one got put off by my mates blew up on the way home after buying it and a further twice was fapin quick when it ran though
squirrel-designs
02-02-10, 11:09 PM
iv had 1 and although they arnt suppose to be reliable mine lasted very strong, mine had a receipt for an uprated headgasket set so this may have helped. i did a 400 mile round trip to santa pod in mine ran it 10 times maybe more and got me home fine, i also drove 150 miles to swap it.
have u got a certain 1 lined p to buy? it may be my old 1
saloonwoody
02-02-10, 11:09 PM
had one for 6 months ....rebuilt the engine twice then the gearbox went fcuk off lol
i worked with a woman who had one when they were new.... it was std & she drove it 5 miles to work up a b road at normal driving speeds & parked it up.. it then spent the next 40 mins with fans whirring to cool it down
stroutsy
02-02-10, 11:21 PM
iv had 1 and although they arnt suppose to be reliable mine lasted very strong, mine had a receipt for an uprated headgasket set so this may have helped. i did a 400 mile round trip to santa pod in mine ran it 10 times maybe more and got me home fine, i also drove 150 miles to swap it.
have u got a certain 1 lined p to buy? it may be my old 1 no i just fell in love with this one ive always like them jsut wondered what sort of problems they had http://cdn.images.pistonheads.com/aimg/1396/1396911-1.jpg (http://pistonheads.co.uk/sales/largepic.asp?i=1396911&noPics=9&make=RENAULT&model=^5| 5&imgsrv=1¤t=2)
squirrel-designs
02-02-10, 11:23 PM
nope not mine, it does look clean though not a lover of the wheels though, they look ace on clio turbines :D
saloonwoody
02-02-10, 11:26 PM
no i just fell in love with this one ive always like them jsut wondered what sort of problems they had http://cdn.images.pistonheads.com/aimg/1396/1396911-1.jpg (http://pistonheads.co.uk/sales/largepic.asp?i=1396911&noPics=9&make=RENAULT&model=^5| 5&imgsrv=1¤t=2)
looks the same as my one but mine had tsw alpines on :)
Sell the 5 spokes to Vaughan on here lol. They look like 100+?
Agreed on the ph1 Clio turbines. :)
Had one for about 18 months. Never let me down at all engine wise and was used daily running 18psi on a T25 turbo. Had two clutches though!!
The car I regret selling the most to be honest. Looked exactly like the one in the picture except it was on Clio valver wheels.
I'd a Raider a while back there. Quick enough wee car, didn't have it long enough to test reliability.
I resprayed it, and what I did notice was that the panels were paper thin, look at them the wrong way and they could dent!!!!
pikey1986
02-02-10, 11:52 PM
if you can live with a nova then you should be fine with one of these lol
floydy13
02-02-10, 11:58 PM
my mates had a few in the past, i remember the engines not lasting long and the electrics were well dodgy on all of them. he spent loads of money on them from gt tuning, his last one went like sti! off a shovel, but blew up in the end!
brainsnova
03-02-10, 12:02 AM
get one and rewire it and drop a vaux engine in win win win.
Southie
03-02-10, 12:07 AM
A mate of mine had one 12 years ago identical to the one on the picture, I've always wanted one but they where terrible for head gaskets so it put me off, my mate had 3 gaskets on his.
Put a Volvo (the cheese wedge shape motor) 1.7 turbo engine in one and you've cracked it.
Put a Volvo (the cheese wedge shape motor) 1.7 turbo engine in one and you've cracked it.
:thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
My mate had a raider for 7 years
3rd engine spec was:
fully forged raider on hybrid t2?
with chargecooler setup,
looked the nads
and did go, but sold it in fear of a nuclear explosion lol
meh i like 'em
very poo. small engine with big hp just dont work
vauxluva
03-02-10, 07:11 AM
lol lumps are made of cardboard lol had one ..............gave it bk shame realy
BluntyR5GTT
03-02-10, 07:29 AM
i currently own one and to say the engine is weak is wrong tbh the bottom ends are good for 230-240bhp its the head thats the weak point but if replaced with a group a gasket set and always make sure the fuelling is spot on and coolant levels are sound then the hg problem never comes back :), iv currently got mine running at 16psi on the t2 turbo had all the carb rejetted and set up with a wideband have quite a bit more done to it as well and boy are they quick got plenty more plans for this :).
as has been stated if you want rid of the c1j engine that its best to stick the b18ft out of the 1.7 volvo 440-480 as these are fuel injected they give a much better way of delivering power and alot easier to set up.
i paid a grand for my r5 gt turbo and its by far the best 1k iv ever spent if you want any info or tips then drop me a pm and ill be happy to help out
my mates old k-tec R5
http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v320/174/70/559165149/n559165149_4279619_5283.jpg
turbo went bang, then the cam chain just fell apart.
its now been reshelled into an imaculate 5dr as that one was rotton
http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs198.snc1/6695_218867575149_559165149_7845396_778098_n.jpg
5drs ARE the future...5dr loons :D
peester
03-02-10, 08:25 AM
Put a Volvo (the cheese wedge shape motor) 1.7 turbo engine in one and you've cracked it.
which comes as standard in the gtx and monaco.. minus the turbo lol
I had a tidy monaco few years back, but it still had overheating/leaks lol
BluntyR5GTT
03-02-10, 08:36 AM
ill get pics of my gt turbo posted up once iv got enough posts, another polular option is to drop the clio 172 engine in there then turbo that, there is a guy on the rtoc with a 172 turbo engined r5 that hit 11.27 1/4 mile
rubachuk
03-02-10, 08:59 AM
I had a standard one 10 years back. It was faultless for the year I had it.
Then my bro had a 250bhp one about 5 years ago, uprated everything. He'd had it about 2 hours before it exploded with me driving. He had it rebuilt to the same spec, but then never had the balls to run any more than standard boost, not that I blame him. Shame really, was one of his dream cars and I ruined it for him.
BluntyR5GTT
03-02-10, 09:18 AM
lol that sounds like a typical fuelling prob there they are a swine get right
i think an ideal still decent useable power level on the r5 is around 180bhp
Mine was about 180bhp. Had group A carb, front mount intercooler, t25, larger downpipe and 2.5" side exit exhaust. Lump was standard apart from uprated head gasket.
Reckon it would have beaten my XE Nova to about 70 but was running out of puff top end. Handled far better than the Nova too!
BluntyR5GTT
03-02-10, 11:45 AM
sounded like a good spec there and it would defo do an xe nova upto around 80ish mph main factor of the top end not being good is of course they only 1.4 8v but a way of getting some extra horses at the top end is to fit a t28 and a 285 cam run that at about 25psi and watch it fly haha
is that you car in your avatar if it is then that is one nice nova
Was a cool car, just bleeding me dry on fuel as it was quite thirsty plus I had the Nova in my avatar in bits and had to decide which one to keep. The Nova won. The next stage for power on the 5 would have meant a cam change and stuff and it was starting to get expensive.
Still got the Nova, there is a link to my build thread on my signature.
liam944nova
03-02-10, 01:04 PM
I had one, very fun but also very fragile. When i got it i got the silly bleed valve taken off and got put back to standard with good service and tune. Can be reliable if you dont rag it everywhere. Wouldn't use one daily though, not very good on fuel. Needs the fan on all the time to stop over heating. Trim is typical french quality :). Never had much problems with it apart from the starter motor and i had it 8 months but lad i sold it to had it blown up within days lol
scott.parker
03-02-10, 01:19 PM
Always loved the look of them, that one pictured is really nice nice very old skool (just what i wanted when i was 17) ~but then i realised they were quite horrid inside and not easy to find cheep, or a clean reliable one around when i looked, glad i never got one, i know it would of cost me the world to keep! lol
Scott
ben doodar
03-02-10, 03:02 PM
My mate had 1 that was 250bhp was fooling rapid the fastest car I've ever been in, apparently it was the 9th fastest in Europe. **** build quality tho very French and was very unreliable kept cracking the liners.
Yes, i had a wicked one when i was 17ish, ended with a massive fireball at about 70 or 80ish tho.
(not read thread yet tho lol)
EDIT: Now ive read thread...well page 1...
There are awesome little cars, but buy very carefully. They can rot like a bitch under the bodykit too. Mine ran about 300bhp IIRC but i bought it with all the work already done an gave it death. IIRC mine was either Bilstein or Spax suspension that was on it, handled very very well but drank fuel like a complete bitch! Inveitibly exploded, shot a piston & rod through the block ripping off the inlet manifold & carb & went up in a massive fireball about half mile from my parents house.
If your young insurance is a massive killer on them! I paid £3k odd at 17 :(
BluntyR5GTT
03-02-10, 04:20 PM
tbf when they go bang at over 220bhp i dont think we should be suprised i mean its only a very old design 1.4 8v engine running a retro carb.
for a fun factor iv never owned a car like it and iv owned some pretty good and fast cars but this is the only one i dont wanna get out of once im driving not sure what bhp im running at the moment its prob around 135-140 max the limiting factor is the turbo as im still on the standard t2.
main areas for rust are the sills and around the front windscreen also the battery tray needs an eye keeping on it
best one i saw was a campus, with a 1.4 turbo in it, running injection and megasquirt. has anyone seen the clio with the vag 20vt motor in it? now, that in a r5, mmm
blue_peg_16v
03-02-10, 04:33 PM
gold clio with massive amount of nos too very quick on the quarter mile
BluntyR5GTT
03-02-10, 04:37 PM
there is a r5 gt turbo with the vag 20v turbo engine in it, running about 290-300bhp its actually for sale on pistonheads he is a member of the rtoc, there is also footage of it on youtube :)
BluntyR5GTT
03-02-10, 04:38 PM
best one i saw was a campus, with a 1.4 turbo in it, running injection and megasquirt. has anyone seen the clio with the vag 20vt motor in it? now, that in a r5, mmm
iv been looking in to converting mine to efi but its not cheap at all but the benefits are massive not only for performance but reliability and fine tuning
BluntyR5GTT
03-02-10, 04:47 PM
hey and why were on the subject of diff engines etc in the 5 there is even on about running a yb cosworth engine at 340bhp :)
brainsnova
03-02-10, 05:05 PM
hey and why were on the subject of diff engines etc in the 5 there is even on about running a yb cosworth engine at 340bhp :)
yay 15 posts time for pics :d
BluntyR5GTT
03-02-10, 05:06 PM
heres a few pics of my r5 gt turbo
http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq4/bluntyn40/renault%205%20gt%20turbo/DSC00023.jpg
http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq4/bluntyn40/renault%205%20gt%20turbo/DSC00026.jpg
http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq4/bluntyn40/renault%205%20gt%20turbo/DSC00006-1.jpg
http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq4/bluntyn40/renault%205%20gt%20turbo/Image0155.jpg
http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq4/bluntyn40/renault%205%20gt%20turbo/DSC00024.jpg
Southie
03-02-10, 05:06 PM
I like it YES :thumb:
What wheels are they BTW?
scott.parker
03-02-10, 05:08 PM
Love the plate, like the car "YES"
scott.parker
03-02-10, 05:08 PM
I like it YES :thumb:
What wheels are they BTW?
Clio 16v/ Williams ph1?
Turbines FTW!!
God damn i miss mine now :(
BluntyR5GTT
03-02-10, 05:10 PM
turbines off the clio 16v (not williams) alot of people think that including myself until i got put right a few yrs back.
hehe yeah my car has been nicknamed ' the yesmobile '
brainsnova
03-02-10, 05:12 PM
nice car mate :thumb:
Southie
03-02-10, 05:19 PM
Wouldn't mind those alloys for my Nova, same fitment aren't they?
Yep just the offset. Baxter used to have standard R5 GTT rims on his old loon.
BluntyR5GTT
03-02-10, 05:29 PM
cheers guys its a really good car got a louvered bonnet here waiting to go on and be sprayed
That car is really nice!i think either that or the raider blue are the best colours they came in.
I went out in one a good 5 years back and still to this day it was one of the quickest cars ive been in!I dont know what power it was running but was told it had been highly tuned(and i can believe it!lol ).On the back window it had:
Built by the french
Tuned by ...... (forgot the name that it was!think it was gt tuning)
Driven by lunaticslol
The video on youtube with the kitcar trying to catch a white R5gtt always makes me want one just to thrash it everywherelol .
i had one a couple of years ago running nearly 300bhp realised how sh1t they really are saw sense and swapped it for a nova GTE :thumb:
BluntyR5GTT
03-02-10, 06:59 PM
haha they are awesome little things even standard they aint slow and mine is mildly tuned atm running 16psi on t2 turbo will be going for a gt25 and 20psi soon :), hey gt tuning have stopped working on 5s now not many ppl do anymore :(
cheers for the comments mate tungy grey is by far my most fav colour of them
twistysnovagte
03-02-10, 07:03 PM
A mate has just bought one of these,in grey, in full standard form from a elderly guy,full history etc........... and i must say its a sweet little car.
ben doodar
03-02-10, 09:15 PM
Where are you from mike? Did you ever used to hang about in Handforth? Nr Manchester? Sounds like a very similar story to what I've heard from a mate called Jaime. Probably just a coincedence.
Jamie from Carisma? lol
He used to like his 5's. lol
ben doodar
03-02-10, 09:23 PM
Jamie from Carisma? lol
He used to like his 5's. lol
lmao no not that Jaime mate!! Lol
didn't he go a bit pyscho n smashed a load of cars up on his street or sumit like that?
peester
03-02-10, 09:41 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/peester/r5p2.jpg
found a pic of me ol' monaco
Where are you from mike? Did you ever used to hang about in Handforth? Nr Manchester? Sounds like a very similar story to what I've heard from a mate called Jaime. Probably just a coincedence.
Nowhere near chap. I live in the midlands, used to go to a place called "Merry Hill" back in the day when it was boyracer/drag strip central until the early hours (circa 03 to 05).
Now its speed humps & bus lanes :(
ben doodar
03-02-10, 10:03 PM
Lol would of been a hell of a coincedence if it was you mate. His name was mike though!
Used to be like that in festival park in stoke bk in the day every Sunday.
Sorry to be off topic
ben doodar
03-02-10, 10:03 PM
Lol would of been a hell of a coincedence if it was you mate. His name was mike though!
Used to be like that in festival park in stoke bk in the day every Sunday.
Sorry to be off topic
Lol would of been a hell of a coincedence if it was you mate. His name was mike though!
Used to be like that in festival park in stoke bk in the day every Sunday.
Sorry to be off topic
LMAO seriously lol lol
The Fez did used to be ace back when, ive not been up there now for a good 4 years or so tho tbh.
rubachuk
05-02-10, 08:15 AM
Found a few pictures of the car I blew up for my brother :(
http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn266/rubachuk/Turbo1.jpg
http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn266/rubachuk/Turbo3.jpg
He'd had it two hours
THats nice /\
As said, cool old skool cars, rarely than novas these days. And they are quick for a 1.4 tractor engine, but have a habit of dying, turbo heat causes carb fuel problems etc etc!
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