chargerss..

[sulphur]

A mate at work was telling me today how he wants to turbo his fiesta zetec s, or more he was humming n ahhing about turbo or supercharge. Am I right in saying all he needs for the supercharger kit is the following??

supercharger
crank pulley for the belt drive
bigger injectors
intake manifold
low comp pistons
different cams (i'm right in thinking mild is best for forced induction??)
Larger throttle body
Intercooler
larger fuel rail with rising rate fuel reg?
better fuel pump

Plans to use a eaton m45 from a mini, like baxter used. Reckon this'd do the job?:thumb:

[peester]

ive feeling supercharging will require more custom work/parts = more cost most time lost, unsurity, unrealiable..? questions..
otherwise: turbo zetec's are off shelf kits i think, reliable, proven.

[Lee]

Management will be a must.

[sulphur]

Management will be a must.

Bollox, trust me to forget the most obvious. :roll:

[Edd]

im using standard mamagement with my charger.

all depends how much power you want.

[sulphur]

Said he'd be aiming for 200bhp.

[Edd]

id say,

supercharger - obviously yes
crank pulley for the belt drive -yes
bigger injectors - no
intake manifold -no
low comp pistons -no
different cams (i'm right in thinking mild is best for forced induction??) -no
Larger throttle body -no
Intercooler -yes
larger fuel rail with rising rate fuel reg?- no need for the rail-yes to 1.1 rising reg
better fuel pump -no

eaton would do, personally id go with a Rotrex, bit more expensive than a eaton but half the size.

[Lee]

im using standard mamagement with my charger.

all depends how much power you want.

If your going to charge an engine to that standard with cams, bigger injectors etc, you'd be crazy not to use SAM to get the most out of it. Just my opinion :)

[MK999]

If your going to charge an engine to that standard with cams, bigger injectors etc, you'd be crazy not to use SAM to get the most out of it. Just my opinion :)

Think he was (wrongly) pointing those things out as necessary to charge it, rather than "will be using <this spec>"

[sulphur]

Could it work if he just done the minimal?

charger, intake maniforld, fmic?

Could this run on std management, but run well and produce good power?

[Edd]

Could it work if he just done the minimal?

charger, intake maniforld, fmic?

Could this run on std management, but run well and produce good power?

id say yes.

[Plug]

all my charger needs is a 3 pin plug lol

will run 230 easily
Volts that is

[MK999]

Depends how you class 'well', run, produce decent power etc if under around 6-8psi yes, maintain a perfect air fuel ratio and run as economically as it could do, no.

[General Baxter]

if i made one, a monkey could lol

[sulphur]

Then what would be required for it to run well, produce good power AND run economically ?

[MK999]

if i made one, a monkey could lol

Yours was classed as a weapon of mass destruction under the recent terrorism act and was feared by RR operators though. lol


Then what would be required for it to run well, produce good power AND run economically ?

Standalone management. The standard management is made for a standard engine, even cams exhaust filter can throw them off their game, imagine what they're like when they try and compensate for compressed air.

[mowgli]

if i made one, a monkey could lol

i thought it hadlol

[General Baxter]

oi,

burgo did not touch it

[sulphur]

So for doing it on a minimalist type of build, we're looking at intake manifold, charger, fmic, and management?

He's already got the exhaust and induction kit ****e so that's covered.

[General Baxter]

mine cost about £600 with out managment lol

[sulphur]

So for 1k, he'd have it running..and running well? Nice one.

[General Baxter]

lol no comment

[Stuart]

depending on the age of the zetec, there are a fair few 'tuners' that can remap to suit

[General Baxter]

poot poot

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a191/baxters83/Picture007-2.jpg

[MK999]

depending on the age of the zetec, there are a fair few 'tuners' that can remap to suit

That's a good point, I forgot about the option of mapping standard management due to crappy locked out gm ecu's lol

[L14MNP]

I know of a lad that supercharged a 1600 zetec motor (mk5 ZS) Using a Cooper S Eaton. I can ask for pics/info mate.

[mayhem]

if youre going to spend money on it, why do a sh!te job of it?

just so you can say that youre running a m45 on it?

everything under 1bar is for gayers.

[Angus Closier]

At the autosports show one of the turbo tuning companys had a zetec turbo on there stand producing 220bhp. Il find out who it was and get you there number if ya like?

[General Baxter]

everything under 1bar is for gayers.

this man talks sense

0.7 bar on stick over
1.5 bar on the limiter, iirc lol

[sulphur]

I know of a lad that supercharged a 1600 zetec motor (mk5 ZS) Using a Cooper S Eaton. I can ask for pics/info mate.

Pics/info would be awesome pal :thumb:


if youre going to spend money on it, why do a sh!te job of it?

just so you can say that youre running a m45 on it?

everything under 1bar is for gayers.

I'm only asking the questions 'cos it got me curious. He's aiming for 200bhp so he'll have to look into it alot more when/if he goes through with it.

Should be able to have more than 1bar with the initial list of mods though, but like I said that'd be upto him.