C621 HGF - Nova Sport!

[greg1.4]

Wee update -

got one side almost finished -

http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii398/Vauxuki/19102010081.jpg
http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii398/Vauxuki/19102010082.jpg

filler neck after getting spot welded to the inner panel and bodyfilled -

http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii398/Vauxuki/19102010089.jpg

small hole that was on the lip where the window rubber goes, welded, then filled -

http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii398/Vauxuki/19102010087.jpg

http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii398/Vauxuki/19102010086.jpg

pillar finished

http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii398/Vauxuki/19102010085.jpg

sill finished -

http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii398/Vauxuki/19102010084.jpg

lovely clean panels (look at them arch lips vaughan!!!) lol

http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii398/Vauxuki/19102010083.jpg

[vaughanmc]

Oh they arch lips are great lol Feel f*cking brilliant

Did you get some stopper then ?

[MattBrown]

Super work as always Greg!

Would be super happy of mine turns out this well.

[greg1.4]

nah never got any stopper, just working away with what i have got..

Its going ok just now, just hope it all looks good once painted.

Dont speak too soon Matt!

Thanks for comments...i also had a wee nosey at the 'sport engine' tonight, defo got a highlift cam in it, took pulley and dizzy off, no numbers tho..

could this be a genuine enem sport cam??

my last enem i had X17 (iirc) stamped in the end..

[NOV4_SPORT]

Looking very good mate keep it going.

iain

[SRimon]

Superb.

[c20tbo]

Will be having a nosey at this in 12 days time, looking good Greg

[Ben]

Have missed this up until now, excellent work greg, very well done on this so far!

[Novasport]

nah never got any stopper, just working away with what i have got..

Its going ok just now, just hope it all looks good once painted.

Dont speak too soon Matt!

Thanks for comments...i also had a wee nosey at the 'sport engine' tonight, defo got a highlift cam in it, took pulley and dizzy off, no numbers tho..

could this be a genuine enem sport cam??

my last enem i had X17 (iirc) stamped in the end..

The Irmscher 108 cam usually has X17 or RO258 on the end iirc

Credit to you for saving and repanelling the shell BTW. Nice to see it saved rather than reshelled like the rest ;)

[novacabrio]

Excellent work Greg,

Just curious but what is the aditional hole in the door check/sill on this picture?

http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii398/Vauxuki/19102010083.jpg

Can be seen clearer here (looking back at pictures it seem to be on each side maybe old alarm switches?)

http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii398/Vauxuki/DSC02221.jpg

[greg1.4]

yeah mate, it must be..

i maybe shold of welded them up. i might just get wee gromets for it once its all painted.

[Iain]

Extra holes are probably for waxoyling inside the sills.

Nice work mate, it's very satisfying when it starts to look complete again! Have you had the doors on to make sure the shuts etc line up well?

[Sturge]

Looking good mate, nice to see it coming together properly!

have to get both mine together at some point ;)

[bainyboy sr]

great work mate will be worth it in the end

[greg1.4]

Thanks for all comments again!

Got quite a good update here - I found myself a Early SR/Sport Interior..

It came from C20TBO, was out a genuine nova sport C300 ***.

Only thing is the rear bench has been changed for a 60/40 at some point. But this shouldnt be too much of a problem as i know a guy that stays about 2 miles away from em that has a 1 piece sport rear bench. He only has the 1 piece rear bench and a early bonnet left from his sport that he had around 15 years ago!

Anyway, basically everything is there and in surprisingly good condition for being sat in an attic for 12 years! glad the mice never got to it! I got it a great price aswell!

pics -

http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii398/Vauxuki/02112010106.jpg
http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii398/Vauxuki/02112010107.jpg
http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii398/Vauxuki/02112010108.jpg

Very little wear on drivers bolster, no fag burns!!! bonus!

http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii398/Vauxuki/02112010109.jpg
http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii398/Vauxuki/02112010111.jpg

Now the shell -

I have been cracking on with bodywork, 95% finished!!

http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii398/Vauxuki/02112010113.jpg
http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii398/Vauxuki/02112010114.jpg
http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii398/Vauxuki/02112010115.jpg
http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii398/Vauxuki/02112010112.jpg

choice of wheels so far, think i am going to try find flat spoke MO's though..

http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii398/Vauxuki/02112010116.jpg

[dannymcc]

Great work there. Cant wait to see it finished . :thumb:

[Connor]

Ahh those comps would look sweet on the sport,
i got some flat spoke comps if you wanna swap ;)

[Edd]

nice work chap

result on the interior as well

[stevie78]

crackin m8

[Southie]

Not seen this before, very nice work indeed :cool:

[novacabrio]

Great work, but I think the interior looks more like an SR not a Sport item to me, Heater vents, Clock, Speak grils in the parcel shelf supports, centre consol, pockets on the door cards

[Mint FRST]

Excellent work Greg,

Just curious but what is the aditional hole in the door check/sill on this picture?

Can be seen clearer here (looking back at pictures it seem to be on each side maybe old alarm switches?)

http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii398/Vauxuki/DSC02221.jpg

The holes were for speaker wiring into the doors. I removed them and fitted blind gromets back in the day...

Great work on the shell Greg, credit to you. Just needs a new non sunroof skin IMO.

Good luck ;)

[greg1.4]

thangs again for all comments..

Interior may well be a SR item, but its close enough for me! I am a big sport fan but to be fair its never going to be original again, i will be putting alot of motorsport bits on it like braided hoses, 4 pots etc etc.. so i aint that bothered. atleast it will be a 'genuine' sport back on the road. Lucky i got this shell, other wise it could of been wasted!

If a complete sport interior comes up i might have it, but if not this will be going in.. Sort interiors seem to be going for crazy money, i offered vaughan £1000 for his interior and bumpers but he would not take this! Even after i bought the shell and engine for £800!! Alot of profit to be made i would say vaughan! never mind.

The sunroof hole has been annoying me, i have been tempted to put a roof skin on it, but i quite like novas with sunroofs. Again its never going to be 100% original but i just want to build a good clean sport and it is indeed a genuine sport! So NO roof skin it is!

I have been back at the Sport this afternoon, did a little bit more to the finishing touches on bodywork, really not far off finishing now..

I cleaned all the crap out of the inside, thats next on the cards! going to clean it all up and prime it, then i am going to somehow carefully put it on its side and get the underneath garvitex'd and then sprayed in Polar White. Once the underside has been painted i will drop it back down onto axle stands, paint the inside of the shell then mask that off and spray outside the shell and engine bay etc..

Going to give spraying a bash myself, i have done a fair bit of spraying, not an expert but i have done every single bit of work to this car myself so far, so i want to carry on and at the end i can say "i done that"! I think it would be great to be able to do all myself, and to be fair the next hardest thing is spraying it. I have done all the hardest i would say with the fabricaing and bodywork and i can honestly say its turned out pretty damn good so far!

Now some pics of inside of shell before i attack it -

interior hiding under sheet -

http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii398/Vauxuki/02112010117.jpg

http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii398/Vauxuki/02112010120.jpg
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http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii398/Vauxuki/02112010121.jpg
http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii398/Vauxuki/02112010119.jpg

i took out all bolts, clips and seatbelts etc just ready to get on with it the next time i get a chance..

[Edd]

its a credit to you that your doing it all yourself

i wouldnt worry too much about the Sport interior bits ATM, you have most of it and im sure you could sort the rest when its all back together

keep at it

Edd

[greg1.4]

Thanks mate, thats the way i am looking at it!

[vaughanmc]

Good shout on the interior fella...When did you pay me £800 lol ? IIRC it was £400 shell and £200 engine

Just need all the blanks on the dash and you'll be sorted

Good work :thumb:

[Mint FRST]

There was a bill in the history for the sunroof being fitted at the dealers. So albeit not as they were intend it is original to the car and its history. That if you still have it...?

[Hoochie]

Great work, it's all coming together nicely and looking a lot better than when i seen it last, amazing what a "little" bit of TLC can do...eh Vaughan!! ;)
Credit where credit is due though and i'm looking forward to seeing the finished article...:)

[vaughanmc]

Little bit of TLC lol lol lol I'll crack the jokes

[moffat]

good progress as usual fella

[greg1.4]

Vaughan it was £600 for shell and £200 for the engine.. i am sure it was.no really matter anyway.

still got all history for car, so yeah your right Mint FRST!

Cant wait to get cracking again! lol

[Royston]

Coming on well, will have to start making progress on mine:)

[Ben]

I think Vaughn should swap the genuine trim with the sr one you have! Be a shame to see two "wrong" cars on the road for the sake of a replica.

[Edd]

I think Vaughn should swap the genuine trim with the sr one you have! Be a shame to see two "wrong" cars on the road for the sake of a replica.

:thumb::thumb::thumb::thumb::thumb::thumb::thumb:

[Mint FRST]

Little bit of TLC lol lol lol I'll crack the jokes

Hate to say it Vaughan I think the joke its on you.

1. For initially taking a project you couldnt handle. Other than the outer panels I think most will have seen alot worse...

and

2. For spliting up what was a virtually complete Sport.


Granted it was yours to do what you wanted but would any other true enthuisiast do so?

Thats my 10 pence over. Back to Greg who is doing a sterling job :thumb:

[NOV4_SPORT]

Well fecking done mate, this is really coming along now, cant wait to see it on the road.

Iam really glad you saved the shell, as others would have just kept some of the good bits and sold off the rest ie interior etc.

Its a credit to you greg.

iain

[John]

Hate to say it Vaughan I think the joke its on you.

1. For initially taking a project you couldnt handle. Other than the outer panels I think most will have seen alot worse...

and

2. For spliting up what was a virtually complete Sport.


Granted it was yours to do what you wanted but would any other true enthuisiast do so?

Thats my 10 pence over. Back to Greg who is doing a sterling job :thumb:

Agreed, my shell is worse than yours greg.

[Mint FRST]

Agreed, my shell is worse than yours greg.

Anything with some light rust is bad to Mr. Vaughan ;)

[Cle]

Anything with some light rust is bad to Mr. Vaughan ;)

lol

As said very nice work greg looks like it could turn out like dec's sport :d :thumb:

[vaughanmc]

Fair enough lol Just didn't see the point chasing all the rot for it never to be 'right' when there was a clean original shell down the road from me

And the proper Sport interior is staying put - I don't want early Mk1 SR stuff :thumb:

[novacabrio]

Fair enough lol Just didn't see the point chasing all the rot for it never to be 'right' when there was a clean original shell down the road from me

And the proper Sport interior is staying put - I don't want early Mk1 SR stuff :thumb:

http://media.80stees.com/images/products/A-Team_Mr_T_Shut_Up_Fool-T.jpg

Its your stuff at the end of the day, but as said you have split a complete car for the sake of a red replica. The only real reason you won't part with it now is because you will be made to look like a fool. Either way I think 99.999999999% of people agree that it is a shame to of split the car.

[Edd]

Off topic still but .......lol

Thought you hated replicas Vaughan ???

[vaughanmc]

Aye I don't really approve of them...I'm not building a Sport replica as my shell is red...and Sport's are white!

[scott.parker]

Off topic still but .......lol

Thought you hated replicas Vaughan ???

He does hence it staying red..

And i would love that SR interior for my mk1, i could then make mine into a full SR rep (with the a addition of plow front/13sb engine etc)

Anyway, Greg you have done an amazing job so far, I'm really glad you pressed on, it so easily could of got scrapped..

Scott

[vaughanmc]

He does hence it staying red..

SENSE :thumb: Thank f*ck

[Cle]

soon as the "sport" carbs and interior go in your mk1 vaughan there classed as sr as there not in a sport :P lol

[Southie]

I'm sure one day Vaughan will cash in on his interior but sadly it will have red overspray on it :cry:

Personally I prefer the SR dash, I like to know the time and have some warm air in winter blowing from the side vents as well. lol

[scott.parker]

soon as the "sport" carbs and interior go in your mk1 vaughan there classed as sr as there not in a sport :P lol

In theory true, but whats it matter?

So if i buy some parts from a sport and put them into my MK1 does that make my MK1 a SR with 1300SB used parts on/in?? lol

Nope, just means i have bought some sodding vauxhall parts that are 25+ years old..

Seriously guys, this place is getting more anal then MIG, and almost as clicky as JOV..

Personally none of the Vaughn/sport things effect me, and its really old news now, so can we drop it from Greg's thread?

Scott

[Cle]

twas a joke lol

[scott.parker]

twas a joke lol

Either way it's not funny anymore, if it ever was really?

I just like to see this thread pop up on my user CP so i can see how Greg's doing, not read **** comments with underlying remarks slagging people off for several pages.

Scott

[Cle]

i found it funny but thats just me im usually wrong anyway

[scott.parker]

i found it funny but thats just me im usually wrong anyway

Know, your right.

[Mint FRST]

I'm sure one day Vaughan will cash in on his interior but sadly it will have red overspray on it :cry:


Wasnt that mint any way. Plenty of bolster wear and some fag burns.


Oh and a ferrell cat used it as a bed whilst I had it in storage lol

Greg is better of keeping the SR trim, find a one piece back bench and getting a proffessional upholster to use the cloth from his split bench. A guy did this down my way and only an anorak (Like Vaughan ;) ) would notice....

[Andy]

Either way it's not funny anymore, if it ever was really?

I just like to see this thread pop up on my user CP so i can see how Greg's doing, not read **** comments with underlying remarks slagging people off for several pages.

Scott
Hear hear,At the end of the day theres going to be 2 cracking motors made from one.Who gives a fukk.Where were the "purists" when it was for sale in the 1st place? Too busy chatting sh1t about it on here i bet.
Greg your doing an excellent job so far and im sure you will do it proud:thumb:

[bazil]

Good work Greg, if you need the extra brackets for the rear 60/40 seats let me know, I've still got them in my shell and will drill then out for you,

[greg1.4]

Not wanting to start anything again, but all i can say about all this is i would of liked to of had all the original parts especially when it was almost complete.

Sport are getting thin on the ground and i think they should all be kept as complete as possible even if they are getting sold (like this one was)

even though i am a big sport fan/enthusiast, if if had been mine and i was selling, i would of sold with all the parts available!

Anyway, enough about that as it was Vaughans decision to keep the interior etc and it doesnt look like it will be available anyway. But can i have firs refusal of any of the sport stuff if you do decide to part with it..cheers mate!

Cheers for the offer Bazil, will have a think. Wouldnt mind trying to get the 1 piece bench that i was on about.

[bazil]

Got a couple of standard rear bench's here too mate,

[Royston]

Where were the "purists" when it was for sale in the 1st place? Too busy chatting sh1t about it on here i bet.


I would just like to comment on the above.......I bought my second Sport because.

a) no one was interested in buying it and
b) there was a real risk it was going to get broken.

Which I didn't want to see happen, so I did something about it, but I can't buy them all thoughlol

I am looking to restore her,and assessing it currently and a massing part, I can guarantee what ever her fate, it will not be broken ;)

Greg has done a marvelous job, so far, I am sure that if fellow Sportsters who have parts to aid Greg they will assist where possible;)

I am personally grateful to others who have assisted me todate on Sport2 so far:thumb:

[Ben]

As far as im aware the sport was not really for sale and Sturge only sold it to Vaughn as he was desperate for one and assumed it would be going to a good home and would be restored correctly, and then when vaughn sold it i am sure it was never for sale as a complete car only the shell and engine?

Could be wrong but thats how i read it.

[Edd]

It was only the shell that was forsale but Greg managed to get the original engine off Vaughan as well.

I think the thing that has most people moaning is that Sport bits are rare, and buying one that just needed a restore, then breaking it for no apparent reason or gain was a little silly, albit it was Vaughans to do as he pleased.

IMO it should of been kept complete, and i would of have had a good look round the shell prior to buying so i could see if i could complete the project, if not i would have left it to someone who could complete it.

Also to add, i think if Greg manages to get a one peice rear Sport bench and some heater/clock blanks that will sort the interior Sport wise, as Royston says other Sporters will help, and unless you get completely anal you wont notice the other bits.

[SRimon]

Hate to say it Vaughan I think the joke its on you.

1. For initially taking a project you couldnt handle. Other than the outer panels I think most will have seen alot worse...

and

2. For spliting up what was a virtually complete Sport.


Granted it was yours to do what you wanted but would any other true enthuisiast do so?

Thats my 10 pence over. Back to Greg who is doing a sterling job :thumb:

:thumb:

Greg, looking awesome. I would take a good condition SR interior over a worse Sport interior any day.

I'd also of the TH's rather than flat spoke Mo's.

:cool:

[c20tbo]

Fair enough lol Just didn't see the point chasing all the rot for it never to be 'right' when there was a clean original shell down the road from me

And the proper Sport interior is staying put - I don't want early Mk1 SR stuff :thumb:

Folks,

I sold this interior to Greig, the whole lot came out of an original sport C300SRF (nova base) some one might want to check the plate? which i scrapped a long long time ago, it wasnt a reshell neither, yes i no there is differences ie blank caps but to be honest im pretty sure for what ever reason from factory it was the original interior from that car, and i must admit in dam good condition considering it sat in my parents loft for 12yrs.

Also i cant think of any reason why it would have been changed, it deffo wasnt a reshell due to the fact i removed the chassis number section as i was going to reshell it and it was all original.

Wasnt there not a couple of differences between the sports inbetween b and c yrs and majority of parts in a box in boot for fitting? some has single wingmirror and others twin?

Anyways makes me want a sport again.

[amggsi]

Don't see why everyone is getting at Vaughan here. I'd be in the same boat as him if faced with the task of restoring this car, it's way beyond my capabilities, and for me the cost of paying someone to do it wouldn't make it in any way feasible to do. Can't blame the fella for having rose tinted glasses on when he had an oportunity to buy the car he's always wanted, and maybe when the reality of what it needed hit home he realised it was too much!


Fair play to Greg, you've done a smashing job on it, and I do envy you being able to do that, really can't wait to see it finished!

[grooge]

greg, I have brown blanking plates I might sell if your looking for some.

[NOV4_SPORT]

Looking good mate, but clear your inbox mate.

iain

[greg1.4]

Folks, i never thought i would be writing this, but i may be abandoning this project..

After all the hardwork, sourcing genuine panels etc etc, i have found out that this may not be a Sport..

Vaughan has told me that it may not be a genuine, even though there is letters i got with the shell to say it was an original.. (confirmation letter) Where have these letters appeared from if this is not a genuine????? :confused:

I know this is a known car, and i struggle to see how it cant be genuine with the amount of previous owners from here it has and with the history that you guys will know about?

i have years worth of receipts, mot certificates, v5 (base), the letter to say the sunroof was fitted at a dealers (so it was a genuine non sunroof shell from factory)

I have got the shell sitting all ready for top coat of paint, its all been fully gravitex'd underneath, all sealed..it really does look good sitting in primer! but i am not willing to carry on if it turns out not to be the real deal..

[John]

dude! Have you contacted Andrew Duerden recently and got it straight from him? And when has vaughan told you this?

[greg1.4]

I am going to be contacting him asap!

In the last day or two..

[John]

So how has he found out it's not original? Just contact Andrew duerden yourself. I once bought a nova i was 100% certain was a sport, Mr Duerden confirmed otherwise.

[greg1.4]

He hasnt found out it is not original (that i know of) he has suspected it may not be genuine becuase it had a 3 speed fan and sunroof..

He also says that he tried to get it confirmed but they had no records of car..

[John]

ahh i see. Just contact Andrew Duerden and find out for definates. He has a list of all original sport chassis numbers. I'm sure Rich (novasport) has his contact details.

[Mike]

He hasnt found out it is not original (that i know of) he has suspected it may not be genuine becuase it had a 3 speed fan and sunroof..

LMFAO!

So it has a dealer fit sunroof & some ones changed the fan at some point for a better spec one. Personally cant see what the issue is.

Cant see what the problem is even if wasnt genuine anyway :wtf: :tard:

[bainyboy sr]

how do you know hes not just winding you up dont dare give up on it

[Connor]

Why has vaughan left it untill now to tell you?
Genuine or not, i would continue imo

[bainyboy sr]

jealousy??

[MattBrown]

Why has vaughan left it untill now to tell you?
Genuine or not, i would continue imo


After all the work you have put in, I wouldn't care if it was a 1.0 a gte or a sport!

However, if it turns out not to be a sport, I really do feel for you, as I know how much moneys worth of panels have gone into this car!

Chin up bud:thumb:

[bmw156]

fooking hell thats a kick in the bollocks.

if vaughan sold you the shell saying it was a sport and not knowing 100% thats out of order!

i hope for all the work you have put in that it is a sport shell.

[Spudly]

If youve gotten to the point of putting it into paint then id finish it off as youve spent way more than any nova will ever be worth doing all the repair work, id guess its either jealousy that youve got the end in sight when he gave up, or thats the real reason he split it and sold it on!


It wouldnt matter a toss in my eyes even if it were a rep, with all the right bits and engine, paint and decals who is going to care (at least it wont have the controversy (an)other one(s) have) lol

[Mazz]

Does it really matter if its not genuine? I can't see the big deal...

Also, how can most sport's still be called original? Most of them have had new panels etc fitted so aren't 'original' in the sense of the word..

[Edd]

MintFRST had it confirmed as genuine

Sturge also had it confirmed

Vaughan also had it confirmed again when he got it

Vaughan also put up a thread in Sportzone about him doing so ffs

I would think it is genuine going by all that

Very naughty of Vaughan to say that really, he knows he had in confirmed so what the point ?

Get it confirmed again if your worried tho, but IMO if it's been confirmed that many times if I were you I'd think it were genuine

[c95man]

the 3 speed fan switch may be a new one fitted because the person couldnt find an 2 speed at the time mate
dont give up on it mate
its been a great project
hope to see it in the flesh mate soon

[sport]

Is Vaughan not a friend of yours?

Hes now admitted he sold you a sport shell at an expensive price that he knew might not be genuine.

Some friend.

[Edd]

http://www.pngclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=132667

[Vauxhall-Scotland]

jealousy??

No doubt lol

[thegingerwhinger]

No doubt lol

thats what i think too..... maybe thats why he's ran away from png now?

[bainyboy sr]

thats what i think too..... maybe thats why he's ran away from png now?

i have noticed that he views and never posts now

[dougie_boi]

the sunroof means its genuine mate because thats is the mk2 version of the sport mate and also the 3 speed fan switch may be a new one fitted because the person couldnt find an 2 speed at the time mate
dont give up on it mate
its been a great project
hope to see it in the flesh mate soonmy thoughts exactly im convinced on what ive read it IS genuine and wouldnt think otherwise mate dont let hear say patter put you off.
a)genuine shell :thumb:
b) genuine sunroof fitted at dealers :thumb:
c) been confirmd many times by previous people :thumb:

i wouldnt let anybody make me think other wise just continue as planned mate and keep on the search for a 2 speed switch and bench if they still annoy you but there only a couple of minor points

[novacabrio]

the sunroof means its genuine mate because thats is the mk2 version of the sport mate and also the 3 speed fan switch may be a new one fitted because the person couldnt find an 2 speed at the time mate
dont give up on it mate
its been a great project
hope to see it in the flesh mate soon

Eh? Mk2 sport? SPORT NEVER HAD A SUNROOF!! it was a dealer fitted option as with the passenger mirror and radio etc. The difference i've seen from year to year is only the dim dip on the rear view mirror!

[essexgte]

Keep up the great work, the car you are building looks fab. Great bodywork get the polar White paint finished build it back up and enjoy it for what it is which is a sport. Helll all this chat about heater fans and sunroofs is dog. Some sports left the dealers without the carbs even fitted! So whether it's got a radio, rubber mats, 2 Wing mirrors or upgraded wheels who should say it isn't a great car. The decals are a must though!

[Pete]

Keep at it Greg, you've put so much time,effort and money into it now.
If its been confirmed by previous owners then i wouldnt give a toss what vaughan says.
IMO its just jelousy as stated, Your close to completion where as he gave up almost straight away.

you've done an amazing job on it, and even if it was not genuine... id still cary on as it would be a mint nova once completed, and if compared to another sport i highly doubt you could tell the diffrence "/

[shed-on-wheels]

kee[ this up dont listen to any body else for a piece of mind get it confirmed that it is a sport if you like but honestly as said above theres been plenty of owners that has confirmed it and you have spent a bomb on this you cant give up on her chin up dude! :D

[SRimon]

I laughed when I heard Vaughan thought it might be fake because of the sun roof and 3 speed fan switch. FFS I replaced the fan switch in my SR cos it went wrong, how hard is it to put it in IIRC its the same wiring.

I'd be hugely suprised if it wasn't genuine. Its a known car, all previous members have bought it knowing its a Sport. This only came about after the SLN skeleton story.

[pikey1986]

it sounds as though mcvaughan may be a tad jelous as its near(ish) to being finished

personally keep up the great work mate :thumb:

[stevie78]

it sounds as though mcvaughan may be a tad jelous as its near(ish) to being finished

personally keep up the great work mate :thumb:
spot on therelol

[SR-Rally]

If it turns out not to be genuine it was nice of vaughn to give you this information after he sold it to you and after you spent alot of time and money on it.

Hope it's all legit for you mate

[faker]

this car originally belonged to mint frst, of course its real, everyone knows its real, it has letters confirming its real. what is vaughan playing at.

[moffat]

lollollollollollollollollol

[wilson_sri]

That boy is a complete ****! Keep at it mate, superb job.

[Nova Baz]

your go this far why not just do it and just let that c~nt just spread sh#t
big rep to you for what you've done as well

[Royston]

Keep at it Greg:thumb: , you have broken the back of the restoration, shell is always the most difficult bit, I should know, it took 10 years for me to get the SR sorted, it flew together once the shell was done;)

This Sport has plenty of history, from previous owners, so don't let derogitory comments dampen your enthusiasm.

[NOV4_SPORT]

Keep at it greg, and if only to put your mind at ease contact andrew d and have it confurmed.

I personally think its a cracking build and looks amazing, also think that the little boy who is affraid of the big smoke is very jelous that you have nearly completed the work, when he was to scarred to attempt it, and only held onto the bits he wanted.

Everyone i know of on here has the exact same opinion of the lad, so hold your head high and get it finished greg mate.

iain

[Mint FRST]

MintFRST had it confirmed as genuine

Sturge also had it confirmed

Vaughan also had it confirmed again when he got it

Vaughan also put up a thread in Sportzone about him doing so ffs

I would think it is genuine going by all that

Very naughty of Vaughan to say that really, he knows he had in confirmed so what the point ?

Get it confirmed again if your worried tho, but IMO if it's been confirmed that many times if I were you I'd think it were genuine

Just caught this thread up after being away for Xmas and new year. Andrew confirmed this car as genuine nearly 10 years ago to me! Unfortunately the dealer did fit the sunroof, the receipt for this and guaranty were with the history when Sturge bought her from me. Although it had had a few owners even when I had it the history was excellent with all previous MOTs etc etc.

Greg, all I can say is stay with it or at least Pm me a price for her as she is;)

Thought Vaughan had been quiet on here of late, in that time I hoped he may grow up:roll:

*edit* see you do have the history...

[dj_wudgey]

some good progress i the last pictures!! have you done anymore since??

[liam944nova]

This is a top project, you've done a great job with it. Would be a shame to give up on it now and IMO with everything thats been said about the car and all history that is with it sounds genuine to me. Jealousy is a terrible thing!!

[moffat]

i dont think vaughan is jelous, was his car to do what he wanted with, if its been confirmed before then it must be genuine, no wonder he left the site, all the biching and moaning about a car, ifs a gen sport fair enough but if itsnt stick at it, alot of time and effort went into it and be nice to see it completed. just dont see why everyone jumping to conclusions......

[greg1.4]

Thanks for all the comments!

I will be very very surprised if it is not a genuine car, i will get it confirmed again!

When i get a reply i will post it up on here to let you see.

I am going to carry on with it, even if it turns out not to be a sport (which i very very much doubt)

I havn't done alot to the car in the last few weeks but i have a few ore random pics.

NO big updates as such, cant wait to get it in paint though!

[Pete]

good on you greg, i respect you for all the hard work put into this so far. It will be a beautiful sport once finished. top man greg, should be proud of yourself

[greg1.4]

almost the whole shell in primer now!

What a mission cleaning/rubbing down inside the car..

The floorpan inside will not be 100% but i couldnt bare spending hours and hours getting it immaculate when its just going to get covered by carpet again.

Here are a few pics - Looks good even in primer imo. Really looking forward to getting some Polar onto it!:cool:


http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii398/Vauxuki/02012011354.jpg
http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii398/Vauxuki/02012011352.jpg
http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii398/Vauxuki/02012011351.jpg

[Mint FRST]

i dont think vaughan is jelous, was his car to do what he wanted with, if its been confirmed before then it must be genuine, no wonder he left the site, all the biching and moaning about a car, ifs a gen sport fair enough but if itsnt stick at it, alot of time and effort went into it and be nice to see it completed. just dont see why everyone jumping to conclusions......

The whole sell the car incomplete has already been 'done' and 'dusted' by Greg and other viewers of this thread I would say moffat.

No one (Even me!) doubted Vaughan's enthusiasm for Nova's and indeed Sports. However his constant 'telling granma's how to suck eggs' some of which wasnt actualy correct anyway and massive public build up of obtaining Gregs Sport (HGF) and then crying caus it being 25 years old and needing work which he clearly didnt have the skills or funds to undertake did actually wear thin and caus some of 'biching' as you said...

[Mint FRST]

almost the whole shell in primer now!

What a mission cleaning/rubbing down inside the car..

The floorpan inside will not be 100% but i couldnt bare spending hours and hours getting it immaculate when its just going to get covered by carpet again.

Here are a few pics - Looks good even in primer imo. Really looking forward to getting some Polar onto it!:cool:



Looks well Greg, keep it up!

[moffat]

The whole sell the car incomplete has already been 'done' and 'dusted' by Greg and other viewers of this thread I would say moffat.

No one (Even me!) doubted Vaughan's enthusiasm for Nova's and indeed Sports. However his constant 'telling granma's how to suck eggs' some of which wasnt actualy correct anyway and massive public build up of obtaining Gregs Sport (HGF) and then crying caus it being 25 years old and needing work which he clearly didnt have the skills or funds to undertake did actually wear thin and caus some of 'biching' as you said...

i just meant that why would he be jelous?? he took it on got panels and got offered a better shell and sold greg it. The point is he left the site due to the constant arguing etc, imo the club has went down hill, fair play to greg for sticking at it. Us scots dont get a look in unless ur "scene" but since greg posted saying vaughan couldnt get it confirmed, everyone said he is being jelous etc, maybe a bit late to tell someone that but if its been confirmed before why the big worry. Just my opinion.

[greg1.4]

Thanks for your input Moffat but lets leave it now.. (until i get it confirmed) lol

[comptoncj]

Keep at it buddy it looks good, you have put in countless hours of bodywork on it!

[John]

More pics required greg!

[moffat]

no probs man

[greg1.4]

Will get more pics shortly..

Got photos of the bottoms of sills and under the arches now that they have all been protected..

Still not 100% sure if i will be painting the car or not. I am going to do inside and underneath. Want it too look spot on, but i really would like to be able to say i have done eveything myself when it is finished.

[grooge]

haha, the most bitched about car on the site possibly? crack on it with it a say greg, its come a long way from when a saw it in august. n when its done i'll maybe pop down n have a wee look at it.

whats the script with the engine goin in this, you got it ready yet??
and spray it yourself if that what you really want to do. as you said, means you've done the whole thing yourself and no many people can say that.

[Hoochie]

Well i for one think you have done an amazing job with this little car.....and almost spent as much on it as Sturge did on the dry storage for it...lol

Please don't give up on it, i'm looking forward to seeing her finished, as for Vaughan....well my opinion on him is best kept to myself, or i may get poked with the ban stick!!........:roll:










prick.

[Sturge]

As said before boss, well done on the progress so far and I can back up that the shell is 100% genuine! Chris had it confirmed before me and I spoke to Andrew about it after buying it.

I wouldn't hold your breath for having it reconfirmed. He's misplaced a lot of his stuff since they got a new computer system in the heritage centre and updated and digitized a lot of records. He's also not as easy to get in contact with as he used to be since his wife died. Priorities I guess

Would quite like to come up one weekend for a look now we're pretty close by if you wouldn't mind? And if there's anything you want to know, feel free to ask as me and Chris know a lot more about the car than Vaughan does!

Chris

[Andy]

prick.
a bit harsh,dont ya think?????
I dont believe for one second that anybody deserves to be called a prick for selling a car or not wanting to restore it to keep the anaraks happy.
Nice work greg and keep at the sterling job your making so far mate.You really have done it justice:thumb:

[moffat]

aye i think the whole vaughan stuff should be stopped and let greg just get one with the car..... I for one is fed up reading bout the past and am looking forward to progress. Its gregs car now!

[Sturge]

a bit harsh,dont ya think?????
I dont believe for one second that anybody deserves to be called a prick for selling a car or not wanting to restore it to keep the anaraks happy.
Nice work greg and keep at the sterling job your making so far mate.You really have done it justice:thumb:

I sold the car to Vaughan, Miss Stig's my other half, so she's dealt with him personally and knows the full story that neither of us have posted up here. including phonecalls at silly o clock in the morning, so don't criticise her opinion :thumb:

[Mazz]

I am going to carry on with it, even if it turns out not to be a sport (which i very very much doubt)


Good, as i assume it'll be stunning if it carries on


... no wonder he left the site, all the biching and moaning about a car.

Has he? I hadn't noticed!! lol

[Andy]

Sturge.As the comments appeared without good reason,one can perhaps be forgiven for thinking it was a little harsh.However if theres stuff happened like that then yeah its bad!!

[Mike]

I wouldnt say hes left, merely avoiding confrontation.

[Hoochie]

a bit harsh,dont ya think?????

Nope.....his car to do what he wants with..................the comment was not for stripping and splitting it up because he couldn't be bothered to fix it, that's been done to death, it was for him suddenly popping up and giving it the " oh it might not be genuine " boolsheet........simples.:)

I shall go away and pour a large vodka now.

Back tomorrow when all swear words have escaped my mind!!...;)

[Andy]

But why hasnt anybody taken that comment with a pinch of salt when they know it is genuine ,and when he fired a thread up saying it was genuine even after 2 others had it and had it confirmed???!!!
Seems crazy hes done that??!

[Rickyb]

its agood project greg looks spot on and you'l be like a child at christmas once its done keep up the good work.
rickyb

[Spudly]

Soooo, anyways back to the topic in hand please peeps other wise the thread will need to be pruned and holidays issued, no more off topic ladies and gents, thankyou very much.

[Connor]

Greg i lost track through the thread but whats the spec of the engine going in?
(its probably been said in precious post but i cant find it lol)

[shed-on-wheels]

its really good to see more and more of the mk1's about now esp one thats being built with original gm parts and not pattern parts good on you dude

[greg1.4]

Thank you once again for comments, makes me want to go out and get on with the car!

Connor, not decided on the engine spec yet..

Will certainly not be standard sport spec though, will probably end up doing pretty much the same as my nova rally car engine.

Will defo have as much headwork as possible, Cam and the 40's obviously. Not sure on bottom end though, might try source a set of Forged pistons and get the crank etc lightened/balanced. Not sure yet.

Gearbox wise it will probably be an F13 with 4.5 Crown Wheel and Pinion for that bit more acceleration.

Once shell is painted and rolling, i might start worrying about engine/box but got alot more than that to worry about.

Got a wiring loom to source and a roof lining etc to fit. not lookng forward to that!

[shed-on-wheels]

will you really need forge for that spec dude? surley you can run standerd ?

[Connor]

Sounds like a good plan to me, think this car deserves a good spec engine :thumb:
will be watching this one till its finished greg, you got some real good skills. And regarding the paintwork, you may aswell give it your best and if your still not happy with the final result, you can always get someone to blow over it again :)

[shed-on-wheels]

completely agree with connor about the paint this is exactly what i am doing with my nova

[Cle]

Good to see some progress pics mate :thumb:

[Lotuselises2]

Hi Greg,

Please could you empty your message box or email me on Lotuselises2 AT yahoo.co.uk

I have a couple of ideas for you :)

[Novasport]

Will defo have as much headwork as possible, Cam and the 40's obviously. Not sure on bottom end though, might try source a set of Forged pistons and get the crank etc lightened/balanced. Not sure yet.

Got a wiring loom to source and a roof lining etc to fit. not lookng forward to that!

If you manage to source some forged pistons I would be interested, especially oversize ones to take a 1300 to 1400cc.
You can use forged rods from a X16XE or X14XE on the 13SB crank, they are the same length but the little end bearing is a different size. I think later 1400 8v pistons will fit the smaller little ends but I dont know of any forged ones available.

If you were closer I would have fit the roof lining for you. I love doing them and have fited a couple for members on here.
Also love doing wiring, could even remake the loom if required.

[faker]

Hi rich.
I am led to believe the way forward is a 1.3 crank, in a 1.3 block, with the block bored to take early 1.2 pre-fuel injection sb pistons attached to the 1.3 con rods, giving a combined CC of 1440 there or there abouts. I know of a few peops building the likes of this engine. or alternatives using a 1.4 crank-rods-and piston set up in a 1.3 s or sb block to give an oversized CC. Early 1.2s with Carbs had the biggest piston diameter in any of the GM small block range. In saying that the 1.2sb incorperated a large piston with a short stroke. Match the piston from a 1.2 sb with the stroke of a 1.3 and you end up with a stroked, overbored 1.3... I intend to build a tuned 1.3 sb, but currently run a blue printed C14SE on carbs in my rally car.

[connor c]

epic project and a great read greg,only thing if your painting the underside and arches white would it not have been better to have used white gravitex.
awesome project though and cant wait for the outcome:)

[scott.parker]

Any more updates mate, keep at it would love to see it complete and at a show.

Scott

[Novasport]

Hi rich.
I am led to believe the way forward is a 1.3 crank, in a 1.3 block, with the block bored to take early 1.2 pre-fuel injection sb pistons attached to the 1.3 con rods, giving a combined CC of 1440 there or there abouts. I know of a few peops building the likes of this engine. or alternatives using a 1.4 crank-rods-and piston set up in a 1.3 s or sb block to give an oversized CC. Early 1.2s with Carbs had the biggest piston diameter in any of the GM small block range. In saying that the 1.2sb incorperated a large piston with a short stroke. Match the piston from a 1.2 sb with the stroke of a 1.3 and you end up with a stroked, overbored 1.3... I intend to build a tuned 1.3 sb, but currently run a blue printed C14SE on carbs in my rally car.
Standard 12ST pistons in a 13SB bottom end takes it to just short of 1400cc, it gives a few extra cc than a 14NV/14SE(1389cc) etc which is advantageous for the upto 1400cc class in rallying.

[sport]

Any progress???

[greg1.4]

no mate, too busy with the rally car.

just spent 2 grand on 180bhp 1400 engine for it, then i had to buy better driveshafts that came to £900!!!

No spare time or money for sport just now, but dont worry..i am keeping a hold if it and will crack on in a few months time.

[Edd]

:thumb: that's good to here after all the crap rumours flying around few months back

I look forward to the updates when you start work on it again

[AndyGTE95]

keep it up greg
its going to be a lovely looking car:thumb:

i love nova sports me :d

[Connor]

just spent 2 grand on 180bhp 1400 engine for it, then i had to buy better driveshafts that came to £900!!!


Sounds like it has a decent spec :p,
any pics of the rally car mate?

[Novasport]

180bhp, sorry to sound doubtful but thats a big power figure for a 1400(I assume an 8v).
Whats the spec on it?

[SR-Rally]

From an 8v it's very doubtful but there are loads of 16v 1400's making more then 180bhp.

[grooge]

its a suzuki engine in his rally car, last time i saw it anyway. 16v

[angusl2006]

novasport....its a 1300 16v suzuki swift engine....and i assure you it is one very quick motor and has been set up at protec!

if ur lucky he myt post some pics for you people!