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im guessing you have all seen/heard about it,just wondering what the png community think of it,
in my opinion i think the chinks were spot on,one more junkie pushing parasite removed from the world--he was suffering from a mental illness so they say:cuckoo: oh that old chestnut cause you,ve fooked uplol well two problems solved in one go then,
whoop--whoop
go on the chinks:witch:
lol
craig green
29-12-09, 07:24 PM
I wont ask what your opinion is on the matter, but thanks for bringing it to my attention. BBC radio news have banged on about it all day & I heard a topical debate over it on BBC R2.
Tbh, who gives a fook?
I'm sure that is a very p.c. term and could offend some people
What have I missed, again.
politically incorrect, but as scotland is the home of british politics (well, the sodding politicians anyway) we must respect your views.......
i personally would like to see more info about this case, cos this bloke was not exactly sneaking about, and why would anyone smuggle herion from poland to china.... all the opium poppies are grown in asia & its a lot nearer..
Nova-rich
29-12-09, 07:26 PM
Lol, Its a double edged sword, im sure he knew the risks, the chinese dont mess about but as regards to being cought and the lethal injection all within 24 hours without any sort of trial must of been horrible.
Lol, Its a double edged sword, im sure he knew the risks, the chinese dont mess about but as regards to being cought and the lethal injection all within 24 hours without any sort of trial must of been horrible.
which bus did you just come in on????? he was convicted at trial 2 years ago, and all his appeals failed... the chinese authorities gave him plenty of time to fight it, but he had no defence apart from his family saying he was a nutter
He broke the law & got caught, tuff luck for him.
craig green
29-12-09, 07:36 PM
Tis a bit racist, but I'd have more empathy for him if he wasnt named 'Akmal Shaikh'. Hardly a proper Brit is he??
Dont get caught smuggling dope by the Chinese FFS!
dont get caught smuggling Full stop lol
Nova-rich
29-12-09, 08:11 PM
which bus did you just come in on????? he was convicted at trial 2 years ago, and all his appeals failed... the chinese authorities gave him plenty of time to fight it, but he had no defence apart from his family saying he was a nutter
Wot!? ahh right, couldnt hear it right at work with the sanders going, thought it was a bit harsh! 2 years!? ahh fcuk him then no great loss.
auzzy2000
29-12-09, 08:15 PM
i think we should have rules like the chinese.they dont piss about.we are a soft touch here.look at that bloke who got put away for doing over an intruder in his house.f ing joke our system is!!!
Angus Closier
29-12-09, 08:30 PM
He new what was going to happen, if he was stupid enough to smuggle dope into china ffs. At the end of the day if the family knew he was a nutter they should have done somthing about it before he got done rather than after.
Jon_nova1
29-12-09, 10:14 PM
Why can't we do stuff like that here?
LEWI007
29-12-09, 10:22 PM
i think we should have rules like the chinese.they dont piss about.we are a soft touch here.look at that bloke who got put away for doing over an intruder in his house.f ing joke our system is!!!
Yeah our system FTL
Yeah our system FTL
damaging cars, killing pigeons & driving illegally should all have stiffer sentences
blue_peg_16v
29-12-09, 10:56 PM
drugs trafficing so deserved, if he was so mentaly unstable why the hell was he traveling on his own imo
I'm no Shami Chakrabarti but I trust the Chinese 'politburo' to turn out a reasonable and balanced stance on such matters as much as I trust 'Made in China' Christmas-cracker toys to be above board :tard:
Media reporting has been as clear as ever; small factual morsels encapsulated in opaque opinion served with a dash of nationalism (the irony is not lost on me although to arrest assertions of hypocrisy I havn't proffered my opinion on this kind of reporting) because there's probably no other way to write it up for the maynestreeme.
Positive outcomes: Not much; impossibly small amount of substance removed from circulation
Negative outcomes: A man is dead, political tension raised and internationally condemned-but-we're-getting-better-guv 'uman raahts relations razed
:wtf:
/\ what he says...
don't do drugs kids!
can you put that in simpleton terms?
Commies snuffed him on the back of a dodgy as **** conviction for no real gain and a lot of pissed off people.
paddy138
30-12-09, 12:13 AM
any of yous ever watch trouble in thailand, he should of watched it, they take no **** out there, it would put me off going near an asian country with how strict they are,
id say they whole mentally sick thing was a last chance appeal, as said before if he was that bad he wouldnt or shouldnt be able to travel alone,
play with fire and you get burned
What was the method of execution used? Did they use their old faveourite of a bullet to the back of the head from an assault rifle?
Jim Mcrae
30-12-09, 12:54 AM
It was by injection.
bull****./\ thats what they are saying, but they wont release the body, and he is being buried today in china. knife to the throat, as they usually do. imo the guy got what he deserved, dirty parasitic drug dealing git. but, this has bigger implications. its chinas first "shot across the bows" so to speak. basically we got all namby pamby and china told us to fukk off.
btw, mowgli, pidgeons are technically classed as vermin.
if i have heard rightly. the guy was a "spastic" and wanted to be a pop star. so this group of people said they would take him around the world to get famous. so off they go. the "spastic" didnt pack his own bag probably because he couldnt. and so the group of people packed it full off drugs. to try and get the drugs in.
now go back over and re read all your comments.
bull****./\ thats what they are saying, but they wont release the body, and he is being buried today in china.
I'm not sure if he was buried quickly to cover up foul play - he was a muslim so has to be buried as soon as possible after death in accordance with his faith. Inconvienient for the family, but I guess it's a token by the Chinese that his faith has been respected.
if i have heard rightly. the guy was a "spastic" and wanted to be a pop star.
You have heard wrongly.
His supporters have complained that the court did not take into account Mr Shaikh's mental illness - his family says he suffers from bipolar disorder and was delusional when he arrived in China.
The medical term "spastic" became used to describe cerebral palsy.
Bipolar disorder and Cerebral Palsy are very different.
blue_peg_16v
30-12-09, 12:24 PM
if i have heard rightly. the guy was a "spastic" and wanted to be a pop star. so this group of people said they would take him around the world to get famous. so off they go. the "spastic" didnt pack his own bag probably because he couldnt. and so the group of people packed it full off drugs. to try and get the drugs in.
now go back over and re read all your comments.
it was bipolar not a spastic at all and i stand by my comment if he was so ill he shouldnt of been traveling on his own, then there would of been someone to help him when he got asked to take the bag.
Meh, so he was bipolar, big deal. He got busted with drugs, if he was innocent they could have gotten him out.
I'm more concerned about the whole scam about putting a Nigerian on a plane with a "bomb" so they can give reason to installing body scanners in airports lol
dar and blue peg, you took my meaning "spastic" to literally. what i meant was he wasnt in a fit state to be doing anything him self.
and im sure he was travelling with others who had packed his case..
Not necessarily, a bipolar person is quite capable of looking after themselves (or at least packing a bag and getting on an aircraft without assistance). They're not a dribbling imbecile
It varies from person to person, but ALOT of people suffer from bi-polar disorder. Just because he has/had bi-polar doesn't mean he shouldn't be travelling on his own.
He got ****ed. Tough ****.
rubachuk
30-12-09, 07:04 PM
dar and blue peg, you took my meaning "spastic" to literally. what i meant was he wasnt in a fit state to be doing anything him self.
and im sure he was travelling with others who had packed his case..
When you get all opinoinated, don't go generalising people with any sort of mental disabiltiy as a "spastic". It will not be well recieved, by me at least.
dar and blue peg, you took my meaning "spastic" to literally. what i meant was he wasnt in a fit state to be doing anything him self.
and im sure he was travelling with others who had packed his case..
Saying someone is a 'Spastic' is quite specific though. You could have called him a 'nut-job' or something less specific, anyhoo.
As for my opinon on the subject. He got caught with 3kg of the stuff! Not a small ammount. The bi-polar disorder is no excuse IMO. He got caught in China and they dealt with him as they would anyone else. He won't be smuggling anymore drugs anymore intentonally or otherwise.
to be executed in china is seen as pretty much the ultimate dishonour. they are not allowed to be buried in a normal graveyard but in ground well away from all others in case the spirits get upset...
chinese society is a lot more complicated than most, and if you are law abiding, then fine, if not then face the consequences..
rubachuk
30-12-09, 07:28 PM
I agree with the general opinion though, the guy got what he deserved really.
Having been there a few times, and having a fair appreciation of the culture, you do not want to fook about with them.
Don't think that the West knows half of what goes on over there, it is so well shielded by the chinese government. I have a friend in Shanghai who I've tried to keep in touch with via Facebook and then by Myspace. All her photo's and virtually all of her information was deleted from both sites. Sad but true.
I'm not being funny, but the words "Chinese" and "Government" will have been monitored by somebody in China and this thread will have been read.
daverobson
30-12-09, 08:00 PM
i think theres alot that can be learnt from them, maybe not killing a man for drug smuggling but, he was guilty and they have put down the rules and now lots of people wont try and take drugs into china.
some cases the death penalty should be given.
blue_peg_16v
30-12-09, 08:35 PM
dar and blue peg, you took my meaning "spastic" to literally. what i meant was he wasnt in a fit state to be doing anything him self.
and im sure he was travelling with others who had packed his case..
from the reports ive seen he was traveling alone and met some people who said they would make him famous and got him to carry a bag for them so yes they may have take advantage but if he was so ill he shouldnt of travelled alone then the prob wouldnt of arrise for carrying drugs he deserved what he got in my opinion
Isn't bi-polar the new word for manic depressive, I don't see how that would make him not question what was in the bag he was asked to carry, if that story is true
kelbelle
30-12-09, 10:46 PM
Just because someone has Bipolar disorder doesnt mean they need an escort its not like autism etc. He was an adult and unfortunatly just because he has bipolar doesnt mean people can stop him flying alone to another country. SO saying 'oh if he was that ill he shouldnt have been flying alone' is complete bullcrap!
I'm with the family that he was probably duped into carrying the bag.
kelbelle
30-12-09, 10:59 PM
Isn't bi-polar the new word for manic depressive, I don't see how that would make him not question what was in the bag he was asked to carry, if that story is true
If someone is on a manic high they can do truely crazy things. I read a case study of a dentist diagnosed with bi polar and whilst on a manic high decided to decorate his dentist surgery, got impatient with the builders so started ripping it apart himself, started making sexual advances towards his own daughters and tried to beat up his sons-in-law with a spade when they tried to stop him.
Jebus if my mate with bi-polar did that then i think it would be more out of free-will.
Do half of you realise what bi-polar can cause? I know my mate can have extremely long periods of high/low. But ofc i havnt really asked lol
from the reports ive seen he was traveling alone and met some people who said they would make him famous and got him to carry a bag for them so yes they may have take advantage but if he was so ill he shouldnt of travelled alone then the prob wouldnt of arrise for carrying drugs he deserved what he got in my opinion
how can you say someone "got what they deserved" for being a nice person and carrying someones case. he and im sure many othersd wouldnt think twice about what was in the case.
so your saying that a good person should be killed.
i see it as he, helped someone out. who ****ed him over and he got unlucky and paid the ultimate price. but i wouldnt say he deserved it.
p.s yes i was wrong about calling the guy a spastic.
Actually we dont know all the facts, partly cos the chinese are holding back. All this pointless speculation.
Actually we dont know all the facts, partly cos the chinese are holding back. All this pointless speculation.
we agree for once, im sure many people will never know the true facts.
Unless the Chinese change there minds overnight i very much doubt it. They will probably never allow the body to be seen eather. Just hope it dont start a short fuse.
blue_peg_16v
30-12-09, 11:34 PM
im not going to argue over it obviously or opinions differ.
like with anything there are 2 sides. i personaly think the legal system in china is appressive but have no time for drugs trafficers, hence my comments.
and we all know solicitor and baresters have in the past blown mild illnesses out of proportion to decrease a centance its what they are paid to do.
im not saying his illness was mild we dont know and never will.
anyway im getting off my soap box now or ill be calling for the death penalty to be brought back here lol
how can you say someone "got what they deserved" for being a nice person and carrying someones case. he and im sure many othersd wouldnt think twice about what was in the case.
so your saying that a good person should be killed.
i see it as he, helped someone out. who ****ed him over and he got unlucky and paid the ultimate price. but i wouldnt say he deserved it.
No offence, but if some random stranger came up to you in an airport - no, in fact if ANYONE came up to you in an airport and said "hi, please carry my bag through security", you'd have to be a complete and utter melon to actually do it. Especially in China of all places!
Come on, you're surely not that naïve. You've recently been on a flight. You know they always ask you "did you pack this bag?" or words to that effect.
I'm not saying he got what he deserved, and he may well not have been of sound mind when he did it, but he was most certainly taken advantage of and thats nobody's fault but his own.
1. nobody in their right mind takes a bag thru customs for someone else.
2. if someone has got to the age of 50 & not made it in the record business, an offer to be flown to china via poland to become the greatest living rock god & bring world peace is pretty much an admission of being really bloody stupid, & naive, not mentally ill.....
3. bipolar is a great word for lawyers to use because it sounds really serious.. manic depressive is the older name, before that it was 'a bit up & down'
4. china has had the death penalty for drugs for a very long time
5. stop discussing it
kelbelle
31-12-09, 09:24 PM
2. if someone has got to the age of 50 & not made it in the record business, an offer to be flown to china via poland to become the greatest living rock god & bring world peace is pretty much an admission of being really bloody stupid, & naive, not mentally ill.....
But If your on a manic high you can suffer from perceptions of grandeur which would lead someone to believe they were going to China to become a megastar
3. bipolar is a great word for lawyers to use because it sounds really serious.. manic depressive is the older name, before that it was 'a bit up & down'
LOL reminds me of one of my ex's childish friends. She took great pleasure in announcing to everyone (all the time) how she was bipolar. I said "oh, so you're a depressive then", "no no, I'm bipolar". Same sh!t love, new fangled name lol
DW-Nova
01-01-10, 05:38 PM
This is a really intresting thread, the case in hand has a bizzare story behind it too !
Akmal Shaikh was born in Pakistan and emmigrated to the UK with his family as a young child, he then moved to the USA in the 1980's with his wife and 3 children where he worked as an estate agent, after the buisness failed he moved back to the UK where he started a mini cab buisness, the buisness failed in 2004 and this is when things started to get interesting/odd ? He divorced his wife,married his Polish secretary and subsequently moved to Poland where he had 2 more children. In 2007 he met a man in Poland who he belived to have contacts in the music industry, he then traveled to Kyrgystan with this guy to meet the supposed owner of a club in China who would help make him famous, they then travelled to Dushanbe the capital Tajikistan, he then carried onto Urumqi in North West China on his own, carrying a suitcase with him for one of the other guys, upon landing he was searched and found to be carrying 4kg of heroin !!!
What a bizzare story hey !!!! So this guy who was supposedly mentally unstable managed to emmigrate to the USA and set up a buisness, move back to the UK and set up another buisness after which he divorced his wife and moved to poland with his secretary and have 2 children, then fly to Kyrgystan, Tajikistan and finally China. Anybody whos done any travelling or similar will realise how much paperwork and visa applications he must have done in order to do all this so he clearley wasnt that mentally unstable !!! Especially when it comes to visting countrys such as Kyrgystan and Tajikistan, it's not a simple task by any means !!!!
One last point to make is that this guy was investigated as a terrorist suspect by the MI5 in 2005.
Anyhow i've just realised how much i've written ha, hopefully some people will find this intresting.
kelbelle
02-01-10, 04:31 PM
Everyone on here keeps giving their opinion on his mental stability without having much of an idea of what bipolar disorder entails.
Everyone on here keeps giving their opinion on his mental stability without having much of an idea of what bipolar disorder entails.
my wife has a close relative with a form of it, he is getting pretty good care, and is doing ok at the moment.
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