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well if all goes well and i get this diesel nova next week then i'll be looking to put it on carbs wth either an xe or 1600 8v
but was woundering about the wireing? what needs doing? just get the engine loom from a petrol nova?
no idea about diesels so help :)
lew
pikey1986
12-12-09, 09:02 AM
i think you need the engine mount from a petrol nova as the diesel one wont fit and the radiator mounts are different but im not 100% on that lol, imo keep it a diesel
General Baxter
12-12-09, 09:17 AM
if its a Td, keep it lol
if its a Td, keep it lol
Yea your old van was ace!!
Although if you want to put a petrol motor into a Diesel shell, you need to change the entire drivers side chassis leg for a petrol one (think its the drivers side anyway?)
Which one was is we changed on yours Nick??
baxter leave me alone! lol
i want petrol. but if it turns out to be turbo diesel then i'll leave it in fr a while.
any more info on this chassis leg then?
LEWI007
12-12-09, 09:58 AM
Havent seen you on here for a while.
i thought you just had to move the o.s mount?
Just put a 1700TD in. Easier, and you could still waste and XE with a little tuning, whilst still getting 50+ mpg lol
Waste an Xe, is this really true??
Yes. 20XE's really aren't that fast!
Dunno about flat out speed, but from a standing start I could easily believe it.
Ive got a boggo standard 1700cc van that weights 1505kg, its got 135lb/ft of torque yet only about 70bhp ish, it'll smoke a lot of cars from a standstill TBH. Thats at about 3psi of boost.
Once its chipped it'll make 178lb/ft, which is more then an XE IIRC??
Astra 1.7TD is 82bhp (so think Nova SRi) and 124lbft (so about 20 shy of an XE). A remap and/or a few more psi boost and that will easily walk all over an XE.
^ on the older TD GM engines, like what Nova's/Cav's/Astra's etc etc have you can easily run them at like 20psi.
Or 40psi if you weld the pressure valve shut....like Baxter did.........an blew it up big time....
I am running 21psi in my 1500 I would love to get it dynoed, goes well but not as well am my mates GTE
A std 15DT should give a GTE a run for its money, one with that much boost should honk it
Welsh Dan
13-12-09, 01:25 AM
If a 21psi 1500 isn't spanking a 1.6 GTE, your fuelling is off or you need a better intercooler.
The mondeobarge has 243 lb-ft and 130bhp, and tips the scales at around 1500kg. My mates mk1 focus has a 2.0 zetec, 130bhp, weighs around 1250kg. They're about the same speed as one another in a straight line. With a remap I could expect around 160bhp and 280lb-ft.
When I get another nova, I'll be wanting to create a diesel sleeper :d.
I would say the Fuelling is right, It smokes a little before boost and then clears at about 3500rpm, my Torque is maybe more than the GTE and I bet min would pull better but it aint go that High powerband like them small block petrols...
I dont have an intercooler, don't plan on getting one either!
I do plan on getting a 1.7td though and doing the white ring Mod
P.s. Mine will only hold full 21psi in First and sometimes second, In the higher gears Boost drops off at around 14-16 psi
General Baxter
13-12-09, 09:14 AM
I dont have an intercooler, don't plan on getting one either!
I do plan on getting a 1.7td though and doing the white ring Mod
do you realise how hot the boost pressure is ?
i have to run an oil cooler on mine aswell as i could cook chips in the sump lol
yer not been on in a while pal. but comeing back to a nova hopefully next week
tis diesel idea is sounding good now ha
and yeh i agree i dont think xe's are that fast anymore, was going to swap my 320 witha xe corsa we had bit of a race on some land of his and we were neck an neck and the beemer wasnt quick
can you get different turbos on these then?
do you realise how hot the boost pressure is ?
i have to run an oil cooler on mine aswell as i could cook chips in the sump lol
You say that but mine really does not run that hot, I have thrashed **** out of mine and pulled up and the turbo isn't as hot as I thought it would be. You can put your hand on the boost pipe. I took the temperature at work and it was 40degrees entering the inlet (proves there is no need) Now if I add more fuel it might just get hot enough but there is no way it does now!!
P.s. Have you seen the size of the rad on tds, where the **** is an intercooler going to go, I was thinking of getting one under the bonnet as that would be easy to do but wouldn't do it to a 1500... maybe if i pop a 1700 in!
Any one got any videos of 1700td novas, any pictures of the engine bays, boost pipe location, intercoolers etc... No body seems to do these conversions on here !
Welsh Dan
13-12-09, 08:13 PM
Look for count vaux alot's corsa.
Seen the Corsa, but theres much more space behind a Corsa bumper!
Any way went for a good spin in my car yesterday, and I actually think its a fast as my mates GTE now (maybe faster), you see when I last went in his mine was only at about 11psi with half a turn on the max fuel screw now its 21psi with 3/4 of a turn on the fuel so I always remember the GTE being faster but I think now its not the case...
And I know if we had a race up a hill mine would trance it as it pulls amazing up hills :D
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