anyone using a charge cooler system on their LET

[turbo-boy]

hello im trying to find out if phase 2 will be suitable for my courtney charge cooler or will i have to opp for a intercooler as well?also anyone have any pics of how they mounted there charge cooler and the pump,as i had mine fitted to my corsa turbo and the way i had the pump mounted it kept air locking when i turned it of and a had to bleed it when i started it up.

[Jack]

or will i have to opp for a intercooler as well?
As well as the CC, or do you mean instead of?

[turbo-boy]

as well mate. i wanting to find out how much boost im ble to run before its efficencey starts to drop if you no what i mean

[burgo]

well being as a charge cooler is more efficient than an intercooler and assuming your charge cooler is a half decent size i dont see you having any problems

[turbo-boy]

meqan is for a nova and it fits justabove the gear box.

[Jack]

Hmm, I wouldn't run both tbh. You'd be better off with a decent one or t'other rather than both.

[Ben]

Clicky (http://www.pngclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=105040)

[krobinson]

Charge cooler will be fine, It might be worth giving courtenay a ring about the air locking. Mark Watt's old Purple Nova Turbo ran a courtenay charge cooler. I'll try and get photos of his engine bay.

[krobinson]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/markwatts-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/58.jpg

[turbo-boy]

cheers the problem was when i turned it of air was getting into the pump as i did not mount it low enough. i and starting a new project thread and will let use all see what im at., the charge coolers looks small but size doesnt always count its what inside that matters,

[turbo-boy]

yes that looks to be the same as mine. i dont want an intercooler as i dont want to be doing much cutting the the mk1 front end

[discoinferno]

im using a chargecooler, remember the the system is only as good as the pump moving the water around!

my system uses 110l/m water pump charge temps at 363bhp were 29-30 constant even after 4-5 solid runs :D
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/RSGBodystylingska/DSC00046-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/RSGBodystylingska/nova1-3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/RSGBodystylingska/DSC00010.jpg

[ben doodar]

^^^^^^^ eck!

[discoinferno]

she is a beast :D

[Ben]

she is a beast :D

Is it running again now?

[krobinson]

yes that looks to be the same as mine. i dont want an intercooler as i dont want to be doing much cutting the the mk1 front end

It's probably the same setup, courtenay sold a good few kits. A fella from L'derry had a mk2 GTE astra with the same setup.

[ben doodar]

call my thick if ya like, but is that running carge cooler and an intercooler?

[burgo]

call my thick if ya like, but is that running carge cooler and an intercooler?your thick :p

[Jack]

Lol. Thats the radiator and heat exchanger on the front there.

[discoinferno]

call my thick if ya like, but is that running carge cooler and an intercooler?

pre rad is at the front, water is forced through it via a pump it then enters the heat exchanger the water passing through absorbs the charged air cooling it as it passes!

[discoinferno]

Is it running again now?

fitting new engine this week :d

[ben doodar]

lol at burgo!!!! no worries pal i agree!
discoinferno: cheers for clearing that one up dude. lol

[turbo-boy]

the courtney one i hav isnt as big as that one its half the size

[craig green]

the courtney one i have isnt as big as that one its half the size

What I was thinking.... TBH IMO the Courtenay supplied 'small' charge cooler isnt good enough for ph2. Maybe with a larger flowing pump & the heat exchanger in a good airflow position it might cope, but you may aswell run std power & run the charge cooler setup as it is.

[discoinferno]

What I was thinking.... TBH IMO the Courtenay supplied 'small' charge cooler isnt good enough for ph2. Maybe with a larger flowing pump & the heat exchanger in a good airflow position it might cope, but you may aswell run std power & run the charge cooler setup as it is.

iirc the pace and courtenay ones were used in conjunction with the std intercooler, on there own they are not up to the job, just get a cheap from mount from ebay about 60-100 and will cool alot better imo:thumb:

the one thing with chargecoolers systems they are expensive!

[turbo-boy]

im not wanting to cut my front bumper. i will see how it goes when im plumbing it all up might just get a bigger c,c as im wanting phase 2

[Ben]

Can get a fairly large ic in without chopping bumper etc, look at Keith Robinsons and Andy Bishops turbo's!

[dan16v]

Id personally stick with an I/C at that power level, as has been advised, you will not need to chop the car about a great deal, and a simple I/C will look alot neater than the C/C and less to go wrong.

[turbo-boy]

my nova it a mk 1 and want it to look stanard at the front

[craig green]

I see your point, but you need to appreciate how extra boost pressure pushes the charge temps up dramatically. As I said before, keep std boost/chips or choose a proper cooling method.