C14SE modification WIP

[Mk1'SR'Dan]

hello peeps, ive just got a C14SE for my SR, ive binned the MPi system in favour of 40 DCOEs, the problem ive got is the 1400 cam box not only doesnt have a hole for the fuel pump to run off the cam, but the dizzy is completely different, my plan is to take the cam box, cam, dizzy and fuel pump off my original 1300 engine and put it on the 1400 engine, could someone tell me if this is possible? muchos appreciated!

[mowgli]

totally possible & do-able, the cam will be a bit rubbish for twin 40's , but you need to get a decent performance cam with a slotted drive in it to work the 1300 dizzy. try & find a nova sport performance spec cam

[Mk1'SR'Dan]

i think that'll be the next step, SR cams are slightly high lift but a kent with a vernier would be nice... nice one mowgli..!

[mowgli]

sr cams are the same as normal engines. the sr was an interior and some snazzy vinyl, and a lowered diff ratio.

did the mpi stuff really go in the bin?? if not, I'd like to bid on it

[Mk1'SR'Dan]

oh, well the person that told me that must have been full of sh1t then... nah ive still got the inlet, throttle body, fuel rail, and a bit off the loom, bloke i got the engine off was a bit of a butcher, but your more than welcome to make me an offer... if you PM me your mobile number ill send you a picture message of what ive got tomorrow if you want...?

[mowgli]

pm sent

[Mk1'SR'Dan]

im guessing by you saying its totally do-able, that that bottom fan belt pulley will fit? its going to have to cos the original C14SE alternator uses a completely different belt and wont suit the alternator lowering bracket for the twin 40s...? i have to be able to fit the bottom pulley for the whole shooting match to work...

[Mk1'SR'Dan]

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=122514&id=1821220444 is this link usable?!

[Mk1'SR'Dan]

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=122514&id=1821220444#/photo.php?pid=161481&id=1821220444&fbid=1078039490819 heres another if that one did...!

[Mk1'SR'Dan]

poxy facebook wont let it happen... and i dont think i can post photos on here yet...?

[Mk1'SR'Dan]

that didnt work either... meh...

[bullseye]

hello peeps, ive just got a C14SE for my SR, ive binned the MPi system in favour of 40 DCOEs, the problem ive got is the 1400 cam box not only doesnt have a hole for the fuel pump to run off the cam, but the dizzy is completely different, my plan is to take the cam box, cam, dizzy and fuel pump off my original 1300 engine and put it on the 1400 engine, could someone tell me if this is possible? muchos appreciated!

I'm about to do exactly the same, currently running 1.3 on 40's;now going to 1.4.
started with a Bog C14Se lump, going to fit 1.4 16V pistons max oversize, ported E16Se head, then run a 300 degree Nova cam. (If that bit fails I will have to rob the 1.3 cambox, which will be a shame as I want to keep that engine complete.
Just bought a used 1.3 dizzy hoping it will fit the 1.4 cambox, the car is set up to run 1,3 electrics so it seemed to be the easiest route.
Then I have a nice pair of 45's with decent manifold to fit. already running electric fuel pump so that bit isn't an issue
I also have a complete MPI inlet/injectors/loom etc if anyone is interested.
Interesting point about the lowering bracket and multi grove alternator pulley, hadn't considered that.
no idea what output this is likely to have the rolling road will tell me that.

[Paul]

45s are overkill, flog em and get some 40s

[bullseye]

45s are overkill, flog em and get some 40s
Got 40's on the 1.3 so can always go back to them if the 45's are too big, guy doing the machining has built lots of competition vauxhalls and his opinion is they will be fine for my application, will have to see when it gets to the RR

[Mk1'SR'Dan]

alternator issue, arseh*ole... ive had to bin the original 1.4 alternator and use the one off my 1300, you have to muller the plastic bit on the bottom of the cam belt cover to fit the original 1300 pulley on the crank for the 'v' belt to run on the alternator, and yes, you'll have to rob the 1300 cam box cos the C14SE has a newer dizzy, with no connection for the short coil HT lead, AND, your 40s manifold wont fit on because the 1400 cam box has an annoying bulge in the back of it, which probably could be filed or ground off, but wouldnt look so good, you'll also have to use your 1300 crankcase breather box because the 1400 one runs straight up into the cam box, and causes yet another obstacle for the inlet manifold, you might need a longer alternator/inlet manifold mount, or a shorter fan belt... im going to use the 1300 flywheel too, bit of a weight saving... ill keep an eye out for your progress bullseye!

[Mk1'SR'Dan]

i think 45s would be alright on a highly tuned engine, just need some muchos throttling down with narrow chokes, i was considering it and was told the 33mm choke tubes would do the trick... whether or not thats true or not is another story, ill stick with my 40s..!

[Mk1'SR'Dan]

what she looked like before i got the 40s...

http://s797.photobucket.com/albums/yy254/Mk1NovaDan/?action=view&current=facebookfriendlynova.jpg

this is with the 1300 engine still in, pre-transplant...!

http://s797.photobucket.com/albums/yy254/Mk1NovaDan/?action=view&current=Image000.jpg


and the new lump, its actually red but a shocking quality picture...

http://s797.photobucket.com/albums/yy254/Mk1NovaDan/?action=view&current=firstcoat1.jpg

[Mk1'SR'Dan]

new photos for anyone whos interested, got the 1300 cam box on now, just got to torque it all down, hoping to drop it in over the weekend...

http://s797.photobucket.com/albums/yy254/Mk1NovaDan/?action=view&current=Image034.jpg

http://s797.photobucket.com/albums/yy254/Mk1NovaDan/?action=view&current=Image035.jpg

slightly better pictures..!

[Mk1'SR'Dan]

a bit more progress, third coat of paint, polished cam cover bolts, and hole for the (not really a) vernier pulley to show through...

http://i797.photobucket.com/albums/yy254/Mk1NovaDan/Image038.jpg

http://i797.photobucket.com/albums/yy254/Mk1NovaDan/Image041.jpg