E16se Torque Setting For Cylinder Head Bolts

[philthepill_389]

as above

thank you

[mowgli]

25Nm, then 60 degrees, then another 60 degrees, then 30 degrees.

[Stuart]

or in the haynes manual you should have!

[John]

or in the haynes manual you should have!

pah, haynes manuals are for pussies. lol

[MK999]

25Nm, then 60 degrees, then another 60 degrees, then 30 degrees.

Sure my haynes says 60, 60, 60 :confused: Maybe that's why so many of the heads shredded on them... Knew I should have asked for the hex heads irregardless of what came off the head lol

[mowgli]

and a lad posted up a torque thing from cardata? last week with two more torque angles and a warming the engine period as well, it would have pulled the threads out the block....


back in the mid eighties, the extra 30 degrees wasn't in the first haynes book. I was doing gaskets almost monthly until a dealer mechanic put me right. never had one fail since

[MK999]

and a lad posted up a torque thing from cardata? last week with two more torque angles and a warming the engine period as well, it would have pulled the threads out the block....


back in the mid eighties, the extra 30 degrees wasn't in the first haynes book. I was doing gaskets almost monthly until a dealer mechanic put me right. never had one fail since

since using the 60, 60, 30? Or since it was "corrected" to 60, 60, 60... mine are done up to an extra 180 degrees in total, not sure if you misread something and we have the "extra" 30's confused or not lol

[philthepill_389]

yes so is it 25nm 60 60 30

or

25nm 60 60 60

thanks

[mowgli]

i'll type slowly this time... the third angle stage of 30 degrees was not in the first haynes, or the gm manual, but it was added to make it the 25Nm, 60, 60, 30 that is now in the haynes, and works fine, so it is 150 degrees but in 3 pulls

[mowgli]

i just looked in my (light blue) haynes & the 25Nm, 60, 60, 60 is for the 1.0 litre ohv only

[MK999]

Haven't got mine to hand but I'm pretty sure mine are done up to 60,60,60, afaik it hasn't spat any bolts out of the block yet though. I'll check it out when I take mine out to go over into the new shell thought just to make sure it's ok, head needs looking at anyway.

[LEWI007]

I tightened mine up with a ratchet until they felt tight, no probs with it yet lol

bodge job or what.

[philthepill_389]

thanks mowgli thats clears that up off i go with torque wrench in hand lol

[John]

I tightened mine up with a ratchet until they felt tight, no probs with it yet lol

bodge job or what.

Are you serious??

[MK999]

I tightened mine up with a ratchet until they felt tight, no probs with it yet lol

bodge job or what.

I don't give the head gasket too long, as mine were bloody hard to do up even as far as 60,60,30 with a 2foot long torque wrench lol

[mowgli]

I tightened mine up with a ratchet until they felt tight, no probs with it yet lol

bodge job or what.

i'm speechless

[Stuart]

I tightened mine up with a ratchet until they felt tight, no probs with it yet lol

bodge job or what.


if it lasts 1000 miles I'll be impressed and give you an honorary engineering degree lol

[therealnovaboy]

I tightened mine up with a ratchet until they felt tight, no probs with it yet lol

bodge job or what.

well done. have a choclate biscuit

[Stanley]

Air line FTWhttp://www.corsasport.co.uk/board/images/smile/shocked.gif

[mowgli]

a windy gun should only be used to dismantle stuff..............it should never even be used to tighten wheel bolts.

[alan b]

sure the 1.6 diesel golf engine was the first to have torque settings. before that you just tightened in stages until it felt tight.

[mowgli]

sure the 1.6 diesel golf engine was the first to have torque settings. before that you just tightened in stages until it felt tight.

did someone pay you to put that??????????

as long as there have been engines, there have been torque figures.

[alan b]

did someone pay you to put that??????????

as long as there have been engines, there have been torque figures.

i no loads of old engine builders who remember when they started using torque settings.

[mowgli]

I think that is more to do with not having the information or a torque wrench available to them.

my dad was working on lorries & tractors in the fifties & they were torqueing them up properly then.

back in the fifties, cars had their heads off once a year for a de-coke, so they probably could get away with a blind guess on the bolts.

[Stuart]

I think that is more to do with not having the information or a torque wrench available to them.

my dad was working on lorries & tractors in the fifties & they were torqueing them up properly then.

back in the fifties, cars had their heads off once a year for a de-coke, so they probably could get away with a blind guess on the bolts.


more to the point people were used to tinkering with cars so had a better feel for what was right... Unlike today where folks simply have no idea when a bolt is the right torque by feel.

I like to think I have a fairly well calibrated elbow for most jobs :)

[mowgli]

stuart. modern composite gasket designs call for accurate torque figures, as do modern head designs...

but an old iron head with a copper & asbestos gasket is a bit less delicate.

[Stuart]

stuart. modern composite gasket designs call for accurate torque figures, as do modern head designs...

but an old iron head with a copper & asbestos gasket is a bit less delicate.


lots still have squidgy cardboard ones to let the monkeys (oops mechanics, oops Fitters, oops spastics) fit them without cocking it up too much.