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Iain
10-11-09, 07:00 PM
Been recommended to remove the oil gallery bolts to clean the block out thoroughly. I assume these are the allen key headed bolts behind the waterpump and behind the flywheel.

They seem quite tight and I'm a little worried about rounding them off, do they usually come out easily? Are they a special size?

Cheers!
mowgli
10-11-09, 07:58 PM
not a special size, but they are loctited in very tight
Iain
10-11-09, 09:33 PM
OK cheers, just a bit worried as a size 7 fitted nicely but looked as if it was going to round it off when I applied pressure.
Adam
10-11-09, 09:46 PM
Id leave them tbh
Iain
10-11-09, 10:03 PM
You'd just dump the engine in without stripping it down at all though lol
Adam
10-11-09, 10:05 PM
Seems to work fine for me????? lol lol

Mines 180brake remember ;) lol
Iain
10-11-09, 10:08 PM
I'll buy your perfect engine when you break it then lol
Adam
10-11-09, 10:08 PM
Come remove it tomorrow night
Iain
12-11-09, 09:25 PM
As suspected it has rounded off, any suggestions?

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/OilGalleryBolt.JPG
mowgli
12-11-09, 09:30 PM
either leave it, or get a drill into it followed by a stud extractor
Jon_nova1
12-11-09, 09:31 PM
rather than use an allen key use an allen key socket set

http://www.diytools.co.uk/diy/Main/sp-69-3532-68541-proxxon-18-pce-allen-key-socket-set-23100.asp

I have a draper set, and its saved me a few times, got it from the motor factors

as for your problem use a torx bit on it...one you don't want
Iain
12-11-09, 09:36 PM
I was using an allen key socket on a breaker bar.

I've tried hammering a Torx bit in to it and it's just made it even more round. lol
mowgli
12-11-09, 09:39 PM
time for my method, oh & have you applied some heat to it? sometimes you need to get them glowing to loosen the loctite
Jon_nova1
12-11-09, 09:39 PM
erm lol

well if i was sensible, i'd take the drill and stud extractor option, being me, i'd weld a bolt onto it, and unbolt it lol
Benn
12-11-09, 09:57 PM
Leave the funking thing alone its happy.
tom reid
12-11-09, 10:15 PM
erm lol

well if i was sensible, i'd take the drill and stud extractor option, being me, i'd weld a bolt onto it, and unbolt it lol


What he said ^, it's got to come out.
Iain
12-11-09, 10:27 PM
It's not happy Benn it's hiding lots of grime that needs cleaning lol

Mowgli I'd attack it with heat but I've just been cleaning the engine with degreaser and paraffin so maybe not the best idea at the mo!?

Ok cheers all, I'll drill and stud extractorise it.
Benn
12-11-09, 10:32 PM
It's not happy Benn it's hiding lots of grime that needs cleaning lol


And you wont get it all out, only way is to dip it to clean in.
Paul
12-11-09, 10:54 PM
leave it in, your asking for trouble IMO
John
12-11-09, 10:57 PM
leave it in, your asking for trouble IMO

Agreed, i've never had one of these out. It's an XE, it'll be fine!
Iain
13-11-09, 06:49 PM
Well it's not going well, used a screw extractor tool on it (drill a hole and reverse thread thing) and it managed to snap off inside the bolt.
Adam
13-11-09, 06:53 PM
Told you leave it alone.......
mowgli
13-11-09, 06:53 PM
iain, its probably a good time to think about taking it to the local engine recon workshop & getting them to sort it out.
Iain
13-11-09, 06:53 PM
So? What's done is done.

Mowgli, I'll see what I have locally...
craig green
13-11-09, 07:10 PM
Well it's not going well, used a screw extractor tool on it (drill a hole and reverse thread thing) and it managed to snap off inside the bolt.

I bet you wrenched on it like a stiff tap, hardened tool steel needs a carefull hand.
draper
13-11-09, 07:28 PM
whoops iain

can you not drill it out and helicoil it ?