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daklone
04-11-09, 12:09 PM
I'm after a bit of advice about my daughters 1992 Nova 1.4SRi.

She's just got back from a 500-mile round trip, during which the car was fine. She took it out on Monday morning and it 'just died' and she was unable to start it again.

I've had a look and although there was almost no oil in it ( :roll: ) I've topped it up and it does still turn over on the starter. I've done a compression test and cylinders 1 and 3 read about 120psi while 2 and 4 read a big fat zero :(

The plugs were not particularly fouled and there's no mayo on the oil filler cap. She didn't report any overheating or smoke (but then she may just not have noticed!).

I was considering getting a head gasket kit and trying that, but I'm not convinced that will help - what do you guys think?

craig green
04-11-09, 12:11 PM
Sounds like HG failure to me.
You are going to have to lift the head off anyways.

GRUNT 16V
04-11-09, 12:16 PM
As Above Head Off

daklone
04-11-09, 12:18 PM
Thanks guys. I was really wondering whether its worth the money and effort to do that, as to be honest if its anything more than that it'll be heading for the scrap yard.

craig green
04-11-09, 12:25 PM
Don't do anything rash without showing us tyhe results/offereing the car for sale.

Oh & dont buy a HG kit (or any engine parts for that matter) from ebay.

GRUNT 16V
04-11-09, 12:38 PM
As above mentioning scraping novas around here is a automatic ban !!!

MattBrown
04-11-09, 12:52 PM
As above mentioning scraping novas around here is a automatic ban !!!

Mint-Frst for the ban stick thenlol lol

GRUNT 16V
04-11-09, 12:55 PM
Mint-Frst for the ban stick thenlol lol if anyone mentions srapping novas the should have tha ban stick up em!!lol

AlexW
04-11-09, 01:23 PM
Head gasket costs wont be much eather, head gasket and bolts are about £30 and skimming is about that again? Small price to pay imo.

daklone
04-11-09, 02:13 PM
Sorry to upset everyone with this talk of scrap yards - I'm just a bit hacked off with the damn thing at the moment. I will of course offer it on here if I decide not to repair it.

daklone
04-11-09, 02:17 PM
BTW Is there anything I should know about doing the head gasket on this car? Any gotchas/common problems/special tools? Anyone have a link for the bolt tightening torques/sequence?

let_nova
04-11-09, 02:40 PM
if your selling pm me.

Leeboo
04-11-09, 02:59 PM
bolt tightening sequence and torque readings will come with new gasket.

id try a new gasket first and torque the head down. I would use the old headbolts personally but others will disagree

daklone
04-11-09, 02:59 PM
Nobody get too excited - its pretty rusty (needed welding for its last two MoTs, although the current MoT runs till 09/10) both the door bottoms have gone and there's plenty of scabs. It does have some nice alloys on it though I suppose.

daklone
04-11-09, 03:00 PM
I would post a picture of it, but I need 15 posts...

daklone
04-11-09, 03:00 PM
Almost there...

daklone
04-11-09, 03:01 PM
One more...

daklone
04-11-09, 03:01 PM
Right...

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn270/daklone/Nova_1.jpg

let_nova
04-11-09, 03:06 PM
pm me a price. and location

jimbob-mcgrew
04-11-09, 03:15 PM
pm me a price. and location

give the guy a chance to fix it atleast, its his daughters wagon.

daklone
05-11-09, 12:58 PM
Found the data for head torque, might be useful for someone else...

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn270/daklone/C14SEHeadTightening.jpg

Stage 1: 25Nm
Stage 2: 60 degrees
Stage 3: 60 degrees
Stage 4: 30 degrees
Stage 5: run engine for 15 mins
Stage 6: 30 degrees
Stage 7: 15 degrees

craig green
05-11-09, 01:12 PM
I like the wheels, Wolfrace Racelights??

tom reid
05-11-09, 07:06 PM
Have a good look at the cam, before you remove the head.

mowgli
05-11-09, 10:01 PM
Found the data for head torque, might be useful for someone else...

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn270/daklone/C14SEHeadTightening.jpg

Stage 1: 25Nm
Stage 2: 60 degrees
Stage 3: 60 degrees
Stage 4: 30 degrees
Stage 5: run engine for 15 mins
Stage 6: 30 degrees
Stage 7: 15 degrees

who's figures are these?? haynes only goes as far as stage4....:confused:

daklone
06-11-09, 03:24 PM
who's figures are these?? haynes only goes as far as stage4....:confused:

I got this from my AutoData CD, which I assume is correct.

daklone
06-11-09, 03:26 PM
I like the wheels, Wolfrace Racelights??

Sorry, I don't know they were on the car when she got it. Could be though.

daklone
08-11-09, 12:36 AM
Well, had a look at the car today...when I took the cambelt cover off, I got a nasty surprise:

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn270/daklone/Nova/Nova_2-1.jpg

daklone
08-11-09, 06:17 PM
Car now for sale:

http://www.pngclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=133805