rs turbo or gti?

[jakeufton]

ive recently come into a bit of money so i thought id get another car ive already got the trusty nova for a to b but i have whittled down my dections to 2 cars a series 2 escort rs turbo or a 205 1.6 gti ... just wondering on your thoughts and which you would recommend!!! as these are both car i really thnk look iconic:)

[let_nova]

thort.. thort what the buggery me does that mean.?

[let_nova]

www.usethespacebar.com

[let_nova]

anyway i would say a series 2 RST

[deanwilko]

thort-thaught i would go for the series 2

[MattBrown]

Out of the 2, the rs turbo, but s1 is so much nicer!

[let_nova]

thort-thaught i would go for the series 2

fail

thort + thaught = thought

[jakeufton]

sorrymyspacebarkeepsplayingup:)

[let_nova]

http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg34/incanova/Picture094.jpg

[Southie]

I got halfway and stopped reading.

[twistysnovagte]

RS,its a simple choice imo

[Joe Richardson]

Escort rs turbo FTW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[steve rdf]

rs turbo as long as it a good one. i bought a half about one few years back cost me a fortune in garage bills due to being young and buying the first one i saw just because it was a rs turbo. rot also a big issue

[jakeufton]

ye gonna have a look around and see if i can find a nice one, it just hard to find one thats not been tampered with i want one standard completly

[loggyboy]

I cant see why your choosing/comparing a 1.6Gti against an rst, the 1.9 would be a fairer match (for price, power etc etc)
I'd go for 1.9 gti, legendary handling (allegedly, certianly has always had me curious as to how good they are, i will own one one day) and much better lump the the CVH P.O.S the ford has.

[Connor]

^^^^^ seconded

[John]

I cant see why your choosing/comparing a 1.6Gti against an rst, the 1.9 would be a fairer match (for price, power etc etc)
I'd go for 1.9 gti, legendary handling (allegedly, certianly has always had me curious as to how good they are, i will own one one day) and much better lump the the CVH P.O.S the ford has.

Well said that man! 1.9 gti with mi16 conversion.

[Rickardo]

My bro in law has a 1.6 Gti, i have borrowed it for a few week's while sorting out my Corsa, all i can say is it handles like nothing else i have ever driven.

What it lacks in outright power, 1.6 is 115 Bhp,1.9 is only 130 Bhp, it make's up for in handling.

It will beat the Rs everywhere. :thumb:

[Spudly]

Id vote 205 1.9GTi, ive been in a couple and theyre silly fast for a standard car whereas the RS imo is too overrated, been in a few of them aswell and always expected them to be like a starship but they dont seem much faster than an XR3i in all fairness, my mates got one with a massive fook off turbo on it and its still slow as **** and will struggle to spin the wheels in 3rd in the wet!

[Plug]

/\ agreed unless your going to payout for a mint S1 Rs

[Mike]

1.6GTi is IMO the better on the 205 front, altho the 1.6 OE wheels suck eggs.

Out the two (RS or GTi) I'd go for the RS > Reason being, there worth a lot more on resale at present.

[BODGSI]

well i would have a pug!

thats because im sick of my one they look nice but blow up all the time. also tend to be a bottomless pit when it comes to money!

if your gonna by one look at loads and hpi check them!

[GRUNT 16V]

Nither there both 5hite

[Mike]

Only reason i went for the RST is I want one myself, ive already owned 205 GTi's lol

[Mike]

Nither there both 5hite

Recomment an 80s performance hatch that isn't.....

[Joe Richardson]

Nither there both 5hite

eh lol

[Rickardo]

Recomment an 80s performance hatch that isn't.....

Renault 5 turbo...

I loved mine, till it set on fire with me in it. lol

[Balley]

Renault 5 GT Turbo or Fiat Uno Turbo I.E. FTW

am sorry but RSt are just,.. well!

205 GTi would be better than a Ford any day, but maybe the 1.9 would be better!

[Mike]

Renault 5 turbo...

I loved mine, till it set on fire with me in it. lol

Been there done that too. Mine done the same at about 90ish. Over 300 french horses exploded in a fireball :(

[Rickardo]

I used to love beating up RST with my puny little 1.4 Raider..

5 turb FTW. :thumb:

[Mike]

I used to love beating up RST with my puny little 1.4 Raider..

5 turb FTW. :thumb:

Yea there *good* cars actually, makes me wish i was 18 again now tho :( £3400ish or something like i was paying Fully Comp lol

*Good as in Ok, for an 80s sh1tbox anyway. More fun then a Nova thats for sure tho

[Joe Richardson]

1.6GTi is IMO the better on the 205 front, altho the 1.6 OE wheels suck eggs.

Out the two (RS or GTi) I'd go for the RS > Reason being, there worth a lot more on resale at present.

only thing good about a 1.6 205 gti is the gearboxlol

linked up to a mi16 engine so it's better from start off but it bottoms out top end speed:)

most lads have 1.6 gearboxs in there 1.9's/mi16's .

[Mint FRST]

Dont forget a Fiesta RS Turbo... Thats if you can find one! lol

Had two and great cars and rare these days. Saying that you dont see many clean S2's. S1's Rock!

205s are good but Im a Ford man myself. They just will never be worth any where near the same

1st FRST

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v38/Chris225/H949%20SAB/LFront.jpg

2nd FRST - Modified 175Bhp @ the wheels...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v38/Chris225/J740HVV/mint_frst000_0212.jpg

My new RS ...Turbo lol

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v38/Chris225/100_2457.jpg

Bro's S1 - A proper car!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v38/Chris225/J740HVV/100_0119.jpg

[Mike]

More then the gearbox, insurance group for a start, 15bhp less yet 3 groups lower IIRC. Win.

Ive built & driven a couple of Mi16 205s, some standard engines but mostly TB ones :P an a Mi16 106 GTi (never actually got finished)

EDIT: I know my shizzle about old Pugs, put it that way lol lol

[dannyb]

Have you driven either matey? (Jakeufton that is) I'd get test driving a few if you haven't as these cars offer very different driving experiences. I guess the RST has the option of adding more power (to a point) but the 205 pips it in the corners all day long with its lovely handling, made only better by modern tyres to emliminate that lift off oversteer - my dad remembers these things when new on Michelin MXVs :)

[Joe Richardson]

Now your talking fiesta rs turbo's are lovely:thumb:

but like you say proper rare cars now,there rust like mad at the filler cap:(

Them green strips on them are worth a few quid aswell;)

[Rickardo]

Yea there *good* cars actually, makes me wish i was 18 again now tho :( £3400ish or something like i was paying Fully Comp lol

*Good as in Ok, for an 80s sh1tbox anyway. More fun then a Nova thats for sure tho

Agreed, they are more fun.

You try finding a "Good" one now for half decent money.. :eek:

[Joe Richardson]

More then the gearbox, insurance group for a start, 15bhp less yet 3 groups lower IIRC. Win.

Ive built & driven a couple of Mi16 205s, some standard engines but mostly TB ones :P an a Mi16 106 GTi (never actually got finished)

EDIT: I know my shizzle about old Pugs, put it that way lol lol

205 mi16 ftw 1.9 block though,but are ****e for oil surge :(

[Mint FRST]

Now your talking fiesta rs turbo's are lovely:thumb:

but like you say proper rare cars now,there rust like mad at the filler cap:(

Them green strips on them are worth a few quid aswell;)

Sold the grey car 8 years ago for 5.5k and brought the black car a week after for 500 Knicker!

Got a mint set of green bump strips for when the 3rd victim turns up;)

[Connor]

my bro owns a 205 mi16 running twin 45's and holy moly it goes!!!:d

[dj_wudgey]

id go for the 1.9 205 me if i had to pick one id want a fast car not a broke one!!!

[Joe Richardson]

Sold the grey car 8 years ago for 5.5k and brought the black car a week after for 500 Knicker!

Got a mint set of green bump strips for when the 3rd victim turns up;)

yeah make sure you keep them:thumb:

[Mike]

205 oil surge is an easy fix TBH.

Aye, a good R5 Turbo now will set you back about £3-4k for a GOOD one, same as RST's, FRST's even more now!!! (Ive already looked lol)

At the minute, 106 GTi;s are very god buy TBH ;) also worth more in a non sunroof option when you stack it :thumb:

EDIT: Take a 1600 GTi apart engine wise, compare it to a 1900 an its far better for modifications (big money S1600 engines anyway) but saying that, just chuck a 106 GTi engine it anyway an its superior to 1900 lol

Also 205 lift off is another easy fix.

[jakeufton]

only ever driven one rs turbo and that was on a car park...lol never driven a gti they just look mint tho!!!

[Joe Richardson]

205 oil surge is an easy fix TBH.

Aye, a good R5 Turbo now will set you back about £3-4k for a GOOD one, same as RST's, FRST's even more now!!! (Ive already looked lol)

At the minute, 106 GTi;s are very god buy TBH ;) also worth more in a non sunroof option when you stack it :thumb:

yeah get the right exhaust manifold :thumb:

[Pistol Pete]

IMO a 1.9 GTi would by my choice. lol it was a few years back. Fooking loved it. Would have another tomorrow if i could. Saying that a nice S1/S2 would also be a good choice. Only downside to the Ford, alot of chaved up examples around.

[dj_wudgey]

205 oil surge is an easy fix TBH.

Aye, a good R5 Turbo now will set you back about £3-4k for a GOOD one, same as RST's, FRST's even more now!!! (Ive already looked lol)

At the minute, 106 GTi;s are very god buy TBH ;) also worth more in a non sunroof option when you stack it :thumb:

EDIT: Take a 1600 GTi apart engine wise, compare it to a 1900 an its far better for modifications (big money S1600 engines anyway) but saying that, just chuck a 106 GTi engine it anyway an its superior to 1900 lol

Also 205 lift off is another easy fix.

id have a 5 turbo over any of the others mentiond have a soft spot for them lol

[novaa]

fiesta rs turbo

[h9scw]

The RS would be my choice, finding a good one at a decent price is the problem.....had couple...
My S1
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v333/sawoodburn/S1RST.jpg

My S2
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v333/sawoodburn/S2RST.jpg

Had a 205 gti (can't find the pics) it was superchipped, ashley rally manifold and system (deafening!), great fun but very flimsy and shocking build even compared to a Ford.

The RS will be the easiest to sell on when the time comes to change

[jakeufton]

been looking at prices and i really dont want to buy any sh*t so gnna have to go for the gti as there looking a lot more in my price bracket for a decent one... not sure how it will cope with my heavy right foot though:)

[L33 LEG]

in answer to the original question i would go for the 205. if you are comparing the two then im guessing you can only afford the very cheapest RS so that would cost you much more in the long run.

205 GTi's are great cars imo, out of all the 90s hot hatches they seem to be very cheap to buy and are so much fun. i would also go for the 1.6 over the 1.9 tbh.

[davidfox280585]

rs all day for me some good buys if you look about ive owned a 205 and it felt like a bean can(sorry if anyone owns one) though if you buy an rs buy on body condition not mechanical wish i did with my first rs

[Andy]

Everyones raved about how good on handling a 205 is but imo the 309 Gti is the one to have,bonus points for ultra rare Goodwood edition
They handle much better than the 205 i think,mi16 plus a decent suspension setup and nothing will catch you on the twistys.
As for Rs Turbo's been slow-some folk do talk sh1te is all i will say.Theres a bigger world than Vauxhalls C20let dontcha know.......

[draper]

205 all day long

RS turbos are nothing special imho

[GTE TURBZ]

I wanna swop my nova gte for one but havent found anyone yet.:(

Series 2 with cossie shark tooth rims look the business. If you already have a nova injection of some sort, the drive will be similar, but as for the RS as it's turbo'd will sure be a different experience and more fun.

Above all,think about whats more desirable, the pug might handled better etc and from a vauxhall drivers perspective fords are ****e, but the RS is legendary, 2nd hand or used car price for them says it all.

RS mate, just wait for it.....:thumb:

[craig green]

Tough call.

Escorts are crap but sound nice. The Pug is entertaining but made of paper & will fall to pieces being French.

I would try & come up with something decent to consider tbh.

[dj_wudgey]

one off my mates has had 4 rs turbo's his latest being a fully restored s1!! ive drivin them all and was not really impressed they were well slow!! id say get a 5 turbo but they arent reliable either!! go for a nova let mate!!!

[Andy]

No-A 1.3 Nova is well slow
An Rs turbo is not

[dj_wudgey]

No-A 1.3 Nova is well slow
An Rs turbo is not

no im saying for what they are they are sh*t!! my mate got absolutely nailed by a 1.6 puma in his rs!! and he has had nothing but problems with his im just talking from what experiences ive had from them!!

if it was my money and i wanted something fast and reliability didnt bother me id go for a 5 turbo and destroy that sh*t rs!! but obviously reliability will be a factor so id take the 205 gti (1.9)!!

[Mint FRST]

Lol at RS Turbos being slow...

It not all about out and out power. A decent specc'd RST be it and Escort or Fiesta with around 200Bhp and more important a well set up suspension set up will be a good match for most once rolling...

A good friend had a engine dyno proven turbo engined RS1600i with 250Bhp and itwould easily live with Cossie's once moving. I am not talking standard ones either.

Remember these are old cars now and in standard form ,wont set the world on fire. They are however still no slouch if they are running as they should.

Problem is trying to find a healthy standard car that has passed through several muppets hands...

[dj_wudgey]

Lol at RS Turbos being slow...

It not all about out and out power. A decent specc'd RST be it and Escort or Fiesta with around 200Bhp and more important a well set up suspension set up will be a good match for most once rolling...

A good friend had a engine dyno proven turbo engined RS1600i with 250Bhp and itwould easily live with Cossie's once moving. I am not talking standard ones either.

Remember these are old cars now and in standard form ,wont set the world on fire. They are however still no slouch if they are running as they should.

Problem is trying to find a healthy standard car that has passed through several muppets hands...


all that i have been in have been slow!! as stated with work could be quicker but id still rather have a 5 !! but yea ive got some vids off my mates rs's!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1YKALfYI9A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=le4vU0C6RzM&feature=related

thats one off the ones i have been in and it was excrement!!

[Andy]

Well they must have been fukked is all i will say.

[dj_wudgey]

Well they must have been fukked is all i will say.

i got some more vids coming when they upload his newest one has been completely rebuilt from the floor up!! and its that fast he's putting a zetec lump in it!! i just dont think there quick at all me well when they are close to standard they are not my mate thats had the rs turbo's said his old ibiza gti 2ltr 16 valve was quicker!!

[Andy]

Because that is a really convincing video
How can you prove its slow off that chav video

[dj_wudgey]

Because that is a really convincing video
How can you prove its slow off that chav video

well im filming the speedo and i can hit piss 100 down there in the nova wait there weve got more vids coming!! and no need to get touchy is there ha ha!! rich coming from me that one lol

but at the end off the day 130 bhp is not going to be that fast!! especially when your waiting for turbo lag to go!! his ibiza was about the same but that was well quicker to 60!!

[dj_wudgey]

for f*cks sake bear with me photobucket being gay!

well ive managed to get one loaded on there ill try for the rest later as photobucket is gay!!

http://s59.photobucket.com/albums/g294/basmatty/?action=view&current=28092008015.flv

[Vausey_Nova_Knotla]

rs turbo

[Nobby]

1st off can you afford to insure either car? imo rs turbos are **** underpowered as standard blowing bottom ends come as a weekely occurence. If you were to buy 1 make sure it has some history with it fot servicing rebuilds etc as that money you have come into wont be there or long! I would opt for the gti near enough xe power and no turbos to blow/break etc!!

[Andy]

haha wudgey you toilet lol,those videos are sh1te,if you showed me a poor time at York or Santa Pod i would believe it,but standing in the middle of a dual carriageway is not backing up your claims.Put down your spade....lol

[jakeufton]

not overly looked into the insurnce on these im 18 with 1 years no claims and i had a quik look on go compare and it 1100 for the gti and 1500 for the rs on 3rd party. bearing in mind my 1st years insurance was 1400 on a 1.2 nova!

[Rickardo]

Another one to consider.

Mk1or Mk2 Golf Gti..

[-Luke-]

My friends rs turbo in Malta
http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs071.snc3/13834_101788743175496_100000331134281_43310_380551 1_n.jpg

[Andy]

That ghey ass shopping list ruins it

[Spudly]

Those and the focus side repeaters too:cry:

[jakeufton]

been looking at golfs but insurance go a bit mardy about them for some reason:wtf:

[Benn]

lol cause rs don't rust like Novas no?

[Dar]

I vote for GTI.........6 :d

[Joe Richardson]

Another one to consider.

Mk1or Mk2 Golf Gti..

mk1 golf gti FTW !!!!!!!!

with a 1.8t engine:d

[Mike]

18 years old....RS Turbo.........

Buy one so I can put bets on you stacking it lol lol lol

Like i said pages back, 106 GTi, brilliant buy at the minute. More so to insure compared to 205 GTi's/RST's/FRST's & R5 GTT's though.

Altho you can ring a healthy 180bhp ATW outta them for about £500/600

[craig green]

That ghey ass shopping list ruins it

Straight off the cover of MAX POWER.

[dannyb]

My friends rs turbo in Malta
http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs071.snc3/13834_101788743175496_100000331134281_43310_380551 1_n.jpg

Nice climate to keep it in :)

[JordyzNova]

Out of the 2, the rs turbo, but s1 is so much nicer!

yeh personal go for the s1 but the gti is probz more reliable :thumb:

[ben doodar]

205 gti any day! espacially after owning my 106 gti. unless you like fixing rs turbos i wouldnt have one.

[BODGSI]

rs turbos rock!

mines done 100 miles in 2 days and hasnt blown up again!