View Full Version : Pick up my new car today!
I'm so excited! :d
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MattBrown
29-10-09, 11:15 AM
It looks abit of a bitsa!
Mk2 prefacelift shell (D reg onwards), with mk2 facelift wings, mk2 facelift bumpers, and mk1 gte seats!
Will be quick in a streight line, but a v6 will strugle in the corners!
Was a bargain for that price though!
Mk2 prefacelift shell (D reg onwards),
explain that one?
DAFTJOHN
29-10-09, 11:17 AM
I'm so excited! :d
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Pick it up tonight!
Nice one mate - another Nova in the central belt. I have a V6 Vec just now and it'll do 107 in 3rd! Be interesting to see what it's like in the Nova.
MattBrown
29-10-09, 11:18 AM
explain that one?
Y reg to D reg were mk1 shells, then the mk2 shell came in after D reg, but the bumpers, dashes etc were still mk1 (Pre facelift) then in 1990 the mk2 shells had a facelift!
With a pre D reg shell, inner wings, chassis legs, doors, bonnets, and afew other parts are differant!
not quite accurate im afraid!
MattBrown
29-10-09, 11:22 AM
Explain then?
As The c reg car, and the g reg, and adams k reg, are all totally differant?
The c reg and g reg are mine, ones a mk1 shell, the other is mk2 pre facelift
Got a good setup on it, didn't feel like it was struggling round the corners on the test drive but time will tell cos it would hadle compared to the shart I'm used to. It shifted pretty well though aye! :)
I don't understand the Mk1 / Mk2 stuff - weren't all H reg's Mk2 facelifts?
MattBrown
29-10-09, 11:24 AM
Got a good setup on it, didn't feel like it was struggling round the corners on the test drive but time will tell. It shifted pretty well.
I don't understand the Mk1 / Mk2 stuff - weren't all H reg's Mk2 facelifts?
Some very late H reg were, but theres alot more pre facelifts on a h plate than facelifts!
Nice one mate - another Nova in the central belt. I have a V6 Vec just now and it'll do 107 in 3rd! Be interesting to see what it's like in the Nova.
Cheers mate, you going to Knockhill 8th Nov?
Explain then?
As The c reg car, and the g reg, and adams k reg, are all totally differant?
The c reg and g reg are mine, ones a mk1 shell, the other is mk2 pre facelift
The mk2 shell came out in 1990, i am not disagreeing that they made changes around 86ish but that is not when the mk2 shell was introduced.
The true mk2 shell has very slightly different lugs etc and different placed threads and other blocked etc.
there is also mk1's on a j reg!
tbh the h reg is a fair split.
Some very late H reg were, but theres alot more pre facelifts on a h plate than facelifts!
Any tell-tale signs on the shell one way or the other I can check? It's deffo had new wings as the bolts are all silver, not red.
MattBrown
29-10-09, 11:28 AM
The mk2 shell came out in 1990, i am not disagreeing that they made changes around 86ish but that is not when the mk2 shell was introduced.
The true mk2 shell has very slightly different lugs etc and different placed threads and other blocked etc.
The mk2 shell came out in 1986!
But the facelift wings and bumpers were in 1990, hence in 1986, the lugs, mounts, inner wings, fron chassis legs, boot, and front valance changed!
Also doors changed after 85/86, and the glass changed!
not true as the mk2 lights bumpers etc have very slightly different bolt mountings etc.
MattBrown
29-10-09, 11:31 AM
As these are facelift parts, the holes on a mk1 shell, (Pre 1986) Wont take the mk2 headlight clips, however the 1986>> shells, can use mk1 or mk2 clips!
ok i will agree to disagree and bow down to your unflawed knowledge of Novas and everything else you post on here as you my friend can never be wrong.
MattBrown
29-10-09, 11:33 AM
Any tell-tale signs on the shell one way or the other I can check? It's deffo had new wings as the bolts are all silver, not red.
Its 100% a mk2 shell, but it depends if its "Mk1" or "Facelift" when new!
Alot of people changefor mk2 or for mk1, so its personal choice!
However, I dont do mk2 so i would say put it back to mk1!
Gte or Sr rep!:thumb:
lol. Does this even matter? It's not as if one is 40% stiffer than the other or anything. lol
just annoying liam when people give out bs to confuse people!
MattBrown
29-10-09, 11:35 AM
ok i will agree to disagree and bow down to your unflawed knowledge of Novas and everything else you post on here as you my friend can never be wrong.
Its not my knowledge, it what I have been tought, so, how can it be proven?
If im told this on good althority, then im obviously going to belive it?
I may be wrong, but all the signs point to what I was told being correct?
MattBrown
29-10-09, 11:36 AM
lol. Does this even matter? It's not as if one is 40% stiffer than the other or anything. lol
Doesn't matter one bit, as stated, you seem to have had a bargain there
Looks clean for the year/money aswell:thumb:
just annoying liam when people give out bs to confuse people!
Aye I see what you mean mate. Someone update the Wiki. Whoever gets in first is telling the truth. lol
Southie
29-10-09, 11:40 AM
I was watching that V6 at some point but thought nah :d
Oh I like my mk2 as well 1987 D ;)
http://i345.photobucket.com/albums/p379/SOUTHIE01/MINE/IMG_0657.jpg
MattBrown
29-10-09, 11:41 AM
Personally, i dont find it confusing?
I was just saying about the mk1/mk2 thing
Then ben started going on about bla bla bla?
So I had to try and teach him, but he wouldnt listen :cry: :cry:
So I had to try and teach him, but he wouldnt listen :cry: :cry:
yeah i really need to be taught about nova's!
you were telling him false things so tried pointing this out and you wouldnt listen.
Pre facelift mk2 SR with plough FTW. lol
lol @ stiffness of shell - true enough.
I'm well happy with it - needs bits and pieces doing on it as you'd expect (loads of loose trim, that starting problem, wee bit rot on one arch, etc) but goes and stops well and I reckon it'll make a really good project.
MattBrown
29-10-09, 11:43 AM
Right, we need to go back to basics, Bike carbs, yours is obviously a late mk1 shell, then the shells changed, hence, if your "Re shelling" a sport, you have to use a pre D reg shell!
As after D reg they were all the same, only the bumpers changed, lights, seats etc, but the bare shells were the same D reg to the very end!
Pre facelift mk2 SR with plough FTW. lol
lmfbo
Don't a lot of the Sport reshells only use pre D shells so the reg is correct?
I know there's differences in the shells if they were to use a 'mk 2' (1990 on) but that can usually be taken care of with a few new holes to accept mk1 parts, fit the correct doors etc.
Surely there will be a reshelled Sport or a rep built from an original 1990+ shell with an older plate on it?
Al1exx. Nice one mate. Forgot to say! Bet it's fun. :)
Southie
29-10-09, 11:48 AM
Do you like the foglight on my roof lol
Do you like the foglight on my roof lol
Pikey light! lol. Have you been stealing motorway junction signs in your hi-viz?
Mattbrown is again talking a load of bollocks and thinks he knows everything.
If my F reg SR was the same shell as my mk2 then id eat my hat. Door catchs, extra holes/bolts.
MattBrown
29-10-09, 11:50 AM
Don't a lot of the Sport reshells only use pre D shells so the reg is correct?
I know there's differences in the shells if they were to use a 'mk 2' (1990 on) but that can usually be taken care of with a few new holes to accept mk1 parts, fit the correct doors etc.
Surely there will be a reshelled Sport or a rep built from an original 1990+ shell with an older plate on it?
Al1exx. Nice one mate. Forgot to say! Bet it's fun. :)
Thats what I meant fella, as people have always told me, that to reshell a mk1 you must use a pre D reg shell, as the chassis legs, the doors, etc are differant! So are the bootlids!
So, whats the actual truth then?
As Ive always been led to believe, that 1986* to 1990, was a prefacelift mk2 shell, as they differ from the Dreg back to Y reg ones?
MattBrown
29-10-09, 11:52 AM
Mattbrown is again talking a load of bollocks and thinks he knows everything.
If my F reg SR was the same shell as my mk2 then id eat my hat. Door catchs, extra holes/bolts.
How many sports do you know of that have been built from a post 86 shell?
Coz theres at least 2 on here that have been reshelled, and they have told me, that to get the correct chassis legs, catches, doors etc you must use the pre 86 "Mk1" shell?
Pics of the said sr?
I find it hard to believe the legs etc are different. Just mainly bolt on panels, as you say doors, boot etc.
IMO the Nova is no different to any other car that's undergone a facelift. The bare bones remain the same. There is no way they would redesign the chassis itself for such a minor cosmetic change.
The only way I can see it being the case is if it's like when Japan and England build the 'same' car. Cosmetically yes, but the shells (and other parts) can vary big time due to different countries needs.
the problem is your arguing with people and you dont know just repeating what you have been told, and you are arguing with people that do know!
as i said yes the pre 86 cars are slightly different to the post 86 but they did not stay the same right through to end of production.
MattBrown
29-10-09, 11:56 AM
I find it hard to believe the legs etc are different. Just mainly bolt on panels, as you say doors, boot etc.
IMO the Nova is no different to any other car that's undergone a facelift. The bare bones remain the same. There is no way they would redesign the chassis itself for such a minor cosmetic change.
The only way I can see it being the case is if it's like when Japan and England build the 'same' car. Cosmetically yes, but the shells (and other parts) can vary big time due to different countries needs.
Ok:thumb:
However, my chassis legs on my C reg, and on my G reg look differant?
And the inner wings?
The doors, and bootlid is differant aswell:wtf:
So, mk1 shells are untill 1990, but you must use a pre 86 shell, to make a pre 86 rep?
Southie
29-10-09, 11:57 AM
Oh I like my mk2 as well 1987 D ;)
:roll:
MattBrown
29-10-09, 11:57 AM
the problem is your arguing with people and you dont know just repeating what you have been told, and you are arguing with people that do know!
as i said yes the pre 86 cars are slightly different to the post 86 but they did not stay the same right through to end of production.
Exactly what I said?
Or Am I confusing myself?
I was saying, pre 86 was the true "mk1" and post 86 was the true "mk2" shell, nothing to do with the parts put on the shell:thumb:
no as the mk2 shell did not start inb 1986 but 1990!
MattBrown
29-10-09, 11:59 AM
:roll:
Isnt D reg 86?
As my C reg is 85?
car reg's span 2 years on the old system but of course you know that!
MattBrown
29-10-09, 12:00 PM
no as the mk2 shell did not start inb 1986 but 1990!
Right, time to bollock the people that told me!
So what is the 87-1990 shell?
MattBrown
29-10-09, 12:01 PM
car reg's span 2 years on the old system but of course you know that!
Yes, but I imagine, it was made 86 or earlier?
And registered means nothing, as you could get a brand new shell, and put it on a 59 platelol
Yes, but I imagine, it was made 86 or earlier?
And registered means nothing, as you could get a brand new shell, and put it on a 59 platelol
not exactly, iirc it needs to be over 85% brand new parts to get a new reg and not just a shell as that gets a age related plated and they guage the age buting checking date stamps on interior trim, engine etc.
MattBrown
29-10-09, 12:06 PM
not exactly, iirc it needs to be over 85% brand new parts to get a new reg and not just a shell as that gets a age related plated and they guage the age buting checking date stamps on interior trim, engine etc.
Obviously, but it was an example, not a fact!
Im curious then, is there 3 types of shell?
Mk1 pre D reg, D reg to 1990, then mk2?
People always say there's only 1 type of shell
Southie
29-10-09, 01:18 PM
Isnt D reg 86?
Also 87. Mine was registered 03 06 1987.
Originally car registrations spanned from august too august so overlapped into the next year.
DAFTJOHN
29-10-09, 01:18 PM
Cheers mate, you going to Knockhill 8th Nov?
I will be mate but not in the Nova - it'll be in for paint then
DAFTJOHN
29-10-09, 01:20 PM
Yes, but I imagine, it was made 86 or earlier?
And registered means nothing, as you could get a brand new shell, and put it on a 59 platelol
lmfao - I know what you mean - up to D seem to be solid then after that until the true MK2's there was a change, maybe not on the chasis but in terms of sealer use etc.
Odd that the chassis legs on your D and G plate differ??
L33 LEG
29-10-09, 01:33 PM
what a bollox thread this is lol
car looks like a bargain! be good to see a progress thread to see how you improve and tidy it up :)
lmfao - I know what you mean - up to D seem to be solid then after that until the true MK2's there was a change, maybe not on the chasis but in terms of sealer use etc.
and there's 2 or 3 differences in the engines used in the gsi's from 90-93... doesn't make it a mk 16 nova with a mk4 shell and a mk2 front end with mk 23 interior though.
People always say there's only 1 type of shell
A rusty one lol
lmfao @ this thread. So, er, nice purchase. I'd recommend checking the plugs for gunk, one of the previous owners had issues with it running.
Seller obviously didn't get the £2k he originally had it up for then. lol
BTW, the car was built by gaznovalet on here.
DAFTJOHN
29-10-09, 01:56 PM
and there's 2 or 3 differences in the engines used in the gsi's from 90-93... doesn't make it a mk 16 nova with a mk4 shell and a mk2 front end with mk 23 interior though.
certainly does not change the mark, merely a difference:d
Welsh Dan
29-10-09, 01:57 PM
I'm so excited! :d
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Pick it up tonight!
Looks nice, but standard seats with those harnesses could be asking for trouble ;)
I'm so excited! :d
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Pick it up tonight!
Nice looking Nova you have there.
Lmao at the spam bots invading the thread to talk bull ****...
ben doodar
29-10-09, 05:20 PM
that is cheap looks a really nice car that fella.
Pistol Pete
29-10-09, 05:36 PM
Nice looking Nova. Good price you paid for it. Get some pics of your own up.
Just a shame its got a god awful V6 in it.....:p :d
LMFAO @ some of the crap spewed form a certain person!
Its not my knowledge, it what I have been tought Didnt get taught spelling at the same time then?
Noobs...dont you just love them!
wtf?
mk1, mk1 facelift and mk2. thats how 'ze germans' made them.
doors are not different, the handles are different. (correct me if i'm wrong, never took a look at the hinges)
about the nova:
thats a good bargain, is it in a good condition?
comptoncj
29-10-09, 06:18 PM
The mk2 shell came out in 1986!
No it didnt
mk1, mk1 facelift and mk2. thats how 'ze germans' made them.
doors are not different, the handles are different. (correct me if i'm wrong, never took a look at the hinges)
Veeeery slight difference on the doors involving check straps... hardly worth turning mk1 and mk2 in to mk 1 through to 12 though
brainsnova
29-10-09, 07:05 PM
nice price , beep as you pass my house lol
'ze germans' made them.
I thought the Spanish made the Nova's?!
Back on topic, nova looks a corker and was well put together iirc the thread was a brief but interesting wip on it, which doesnt appear to be about anymore though:tard:
Asa-James
29-10-09, 08:32 PM
nova does look nice, and just to throw a spanner in the works, didnt the derv and 1.0 nova's have slightly different chassis legs to the rest of the range?
Dervs do but 1ltrs do not, derv has a different chassis leg mount but the 1ltr had the same leg mount utilising a defferent shaped bolt on mount if that makes sense lol
LEWI007
29-10-09, 08:53 PM
So does anyone have any photos of these "differences" between mk1 and mk2 shells ?
or any actual proof, im going to research now.
So does anyone have any photos of these "differences" between mk1 and mk2 shells ?
or any actual proof, im going to research now.
I was always led to beleive there are only a few basic differences, apparently the mk1 rear arch has about a 1mm bigger flair to it, the drivers side chassis leg has a crease in it near the strut top aswell as the matching one on the passenger side, a mk2 does not, and the mk1 has a single bolt fixing for the front seatbelts, the mk2 has two fixing points for the height adjustable shoulder point.
LEWI007
29-10-09, 09:01 PM
So are those the differences that make a mk1 shell from a mk2 shell or are they any more do you think ?
I dont know of any others than that tbh, and unless im mistaken that is actually all there is!
LEWI007
29-10-09, 09:04 PM
Well im a bit shocked to learn that there is actually a mk1 and a mk2 shell lol
i just wonder if its true they change the shells from mk1 to mk2 in 1986.
i just wonder if its true they change the shells from mk1 to mk2 in 1986.
It wouldnt be cost effective to make any massive changes midway through the product run so i would guess that the few differences are actually all there is, and no the mk2 shell was first introduced in 1990/91 on the G/H changeover year:thumb:
Well, on Saturday I'll have an F reg shell to compare to the B reg SR shell, so I'll have a look and see if theres anything between the mk1 pre '87 and the mk1 post '87.
Nice V6......is it not a tad understeery though?
LEWI007
29-10-09, 09:23 PM
h9scw - If you notice anything would you take some pics and maybe make a topic please, its just nice to learn something i didnt already know about my favourite car, Nova !!
Oh, Spudly, you got any idea why they made these small changes ? and also was that guy a few pages back who mention the change being 1986 just talking rubbish ?
Pistol Pete
29-10-09, 09:25 PM
Oh, Spudly, you got any idea why they made these small changes ? and also was that guy a few pages back who mention the change being 1986 just talking rubbish ?
I'd say...
http://keetsa.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/rubbish.jpg
AFAIK the shells are pretty much the same. Few minor differences. Then theres the obvious....wings headlights, grill etc.
Oh, Spudly, you got any idea why they made these small changes ? and also was that guy a few pages back who mention the change being 1986 just talking rubbish ?
Not really tbf, id guess at the seatbelt mounts as height adjustable belts are comfier for varying size drivers, the chassis leg thing could be just a change in supplier of metalwork but thats just guesswork.
And yes the guy talking about the earlier changeover was talking absolute garbage and should be ignored!
Pistol Pete
29-10-09, 09:30 PM
Easily done as he is now banned lol
LEWI007
29-10-09, 09:31 PM
Ahh well, nice bit of info thanks for that.
Just hope i can see some pics of these changes sometime.
EDIT: lol he deserves to be banned for talking rubbish.
h9scw - If you notice anything would you take some pics and maybe make a topic please, its just nice to learn something i didnt already know about my favourite car, Nova !!
Oh, Spudly, you got any idea why they made these small changes ? and also was that guy a few pages back who mention the change being 1986 just talking rubbish ?
I'll have a look, no doubt whilst poking holes in the rustlol :roll:
Easily done as he is now banned lol
Ooh i wondered where he had gone to..........
nonchalant whistle..........:p
And yes the guy talking about the earlier changeover was talking absolute garbage and should be ignored!
I can't believe he actually went on as long talking s**t!!!lol
The only differences is a pre 87 and post 87 "shell" is the front slam panel, VIN plates are straight on the pre, and slanted on the post.
Door handles were different on the real early ones, think it was 85/86 that they changed. Rear seat mounts also changed about the same time.
Mark 2 shells (1991 on incase of confusion lol ) have different seatbelt mounting points on the B pillars as already said, A pillars are slightly different on the inside, a lack of holes to screw the back bumper on at the rear arch. Front inner wings are supposed to be slighty different too.
check the weight of them :-)
Just out of pure interest, I had a quick look on EPC and there are 18 different part nos listed for the 3dr RHD nova Shell from 83 to 93, incl all engine and sunroof versions (both mk1 and 2).
check the weight of them :-)
Mark 2 will be lighter as they will have rusted more at this stage!!!lol
let_nova
29-10-09, 09:54 PM
now..... i remember being told that the GSI shell had a double skin on the chassis leg??
now..... i remember being told that the GSI shell had a double skin on the chassis leg??
As did the TD and GTE:thumb:
let_nova
29-10-09, 09:57 PM
good. i wasnt told rubbish then... so for all these people re-shelling there gsi/gte...... find a gte/gsi/td shell or it wont be exact lol
Pistol Pete
29-10-09, 09:57 PM
Oh god...
http://maztulis.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/can-of-worms.jpg
Did the GSi/GTe and TD have stitch welded engine bays? Got told this many years ago (about 15) when I did my valver conversion (was told to buy one of these as donor to save on welding the bay up)
Its one of those useless f"acts" that I've never really looked for when I've had my nose under a GTE/GSI bonnet....although a large majority have been valvered by now, and been seam welded anyway!!
let_nova
29-10-09, 10:02 PM
no they didnt have stitch welded bays.
let_nova
29-10-09, 10:03 PM
next it will be.... i have a press release from vaux where theye were launching the LET nova as standard
another myth expelled LOL
let_nova
29-10-09, 10:05 PM
did you know.. seriously, there is a feild in the south of spain full of nova shells. they cant sell them now though as they wouldnt be to safety standards.
Pistol Pete
29-10-09, 10:06 PM
Just go on holiday to Spain and ship a brand new shell back lol
EDIT: posted just as let nova replied!
did you know.. seriously, there is a feild in the south of spain full of nova shells. they cant sell them now though as they wouldnt be to safety standards.
Oh god no, dont plant the seeds of that one again, mind you that comes around every three years or so, so its due a revival lol
Road trip!
Discovery and trailer at the ready!
let_nova
29-10-09, 10:07 PM
the plan next summer is to go to spain with a 1 way ticket and drive one back..
brainsnova
29-10-09, 10:08 PM
Road trip!
Discovery and trailer at the ready!
id bring more than only one back lol
did you know.. seriously, there is a feild in the south of spain full of nova shells. they cant sell them now though as they wouldnt be to safety standards.
If there were any, GM will have cashed them in for scraplol :roll:
let_nova
29-10-09, 10:10 PM
nope there still there. its not economical for them to ship them anywere for scrap.
id bring more than only one back lol
My mate does continental HGV trips with a 42ft curtainsider....wonder how much for a detour:roll:
let_nova
29-10-09, 10:12 PM
you would fit a few in it pal. put up a thread in for sale/ wanted see if anybody else wants one brought back
h9scw, you do realise he is joking dont you?
nope there still there. its not economical for them to ship them anywere for scrap.
Anyone had a look on Google maps to see what nick their in?:)
let_nova
29-10-09, 10:13 PM
you bugger.
Oh yes, gotta keep it going though!
I may be new, but I'm not that daft!
let_nova
29-10-09, 10:13 PM
Anyone had a look on Google maps to see what nick their in?:)
lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol:thumb:
I said it already and he missed that and possibly my last comment so carry on lol
brainsnova
29-10-09, 10:15 PM
have a look on google maps to see them if you know the cordinates (sp) lol edit im too slow at jokes.
Look at it this way, its a bit of banter thats got my post count up enough to post some pics......so if it meant looking as though I'd taken the bait then job done!
Cheeky sod lol
I likes it though and its not blatant spam so ill let you off :p
brainsnova
29-10-09, 10:21 PM
if there ever was any png would off snapped them up ages ago.
Cheeky sod lol
I likes it though and its not blatant spam so ill let you off :p
:thumb:
I may be closer to 40 than 30, but the grey matter still knows a wind up!lol lol
Fair play dude i like your style:thumb:
Jim Mcrae
30-10-09, 02:55 AM
I tried fitting mk1 (h reg) seatbelts to my mk2. I failed.
lol what a can of worms this turned into!
Unfortunately couldn't collect lnite, family stuff, but will get it tonight. Thanks for all the positive comments, it's quite clean though looks wee bit better in the pics, few bits to do on it. Will report back on how it drives on the way home and also get a project thread on the go!
Found the build thread on here though was told the original engine gave up and this is a replacement.
Knockhill on 8th Nov if anyone wants a closer look :thumb: won't be on the track though.
nice car for the money.
as for the matt brown situation.
i dont care what you think about what i say now.
he is a 17 year old lad who has a very keen interest in nova's. he's had a fair few and been around people who have had a few also.
i dont agree with what he is saying thou, there are only 2 shells mk1 and mk2. he argued back because he believed in what he has been told is true. we all would.
if people want to argue a point with someone and you feel strongly about him, use the pm button.
if you look around on the forums, you see the same people giving loads of abuse to anyone who does not reply to what they think. this is can be interpretated as bullying and other people can quiet easily get the prejudiced thought about the individual.
Nice car! Love the turb 5 studs!
LMFAO at Matt "I am the nova guru" Brown!
scott.parker
31-10-09, 11:17 AM
Got to page 10 and my eyes/head hurt!
Fact, there is two Nova's in the UK, mk1-mk2
Who gives too hoots to the small bolt/screw hole differences etc..
All i know is, i have both! FACT... lol
Scott
Got to page 10 and my eyes/head hurt!
Fact, there is two Nova's in the UK, mk1-mk2
Who gives too hoots to the small bolt/screw hole differences etc..
All i know is, i have have both! FACT... lol
Scott
Well said Scott
Me too haha
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