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Danny s-p
26-10-09, 11:18 PM
hi i hit a curbe in thet wet at about 30 mph. and bent my botom arm and tie rod. i replaced them and was hoping it wood all be ok but my wheel is still siting off center by about a 1 1/2 inces. av had some peeps tack a look at it ant they say the top of the strut is bent up a bit. so am wundering if any one nose if any body jige's cars for cheep in the north east. if any one cud help i wood be well happy thanks ps sorry about the spelling :tard:
16v Nova Kev
26-10-09, 11:28 PM
is it sledge hammer able
brainsnova
26-10-09, 11:38 PM
how does the front cross member or chasis leg look.
grasser26
26-10-09, 11:43 PM
Hi-Is it the steering wheel that's off ? Your tracking would be way out if the bottom arm got bent.It might be the top of the strut-shock absorber that's bent or the top mount.
AlexW
26-10-09, 11:47 PM
Check the x member.
Which way is out off centre?

Oh and stop text typing.
Andy
27-10-09, 09:36 AM
Get some pics up
bmw156
27-10-09, 10:12 AM
mine is like this as well, i hit a curb bent bottom arm and tie bar and it now sits of center, have had the tracking done again. and till sits of center

no problems driving though.
Rickyb
27-10-09, 10:48 AM
i had a similar problem what it is is when the tie bar bends it pulls the x-member back so when you change the tie bar your wheel will be pushed back and tracking out. well thats what was up with one of mine.
AlexW
27-10-09, 03:13 PM
i had a similar problem what it is is when the tie bar bends it pulls the x-member back so when you change the tie bar your wheel will be pushed back and tracking out. well thats what was up with one of mine.

Same as cooltigers, bent the xmember and tiebars etc.
bmw156
27-10-09, 05:12 PM
i will get a pic of mine later on when kelly is back, i dont think i have checked it since the new front panel tbh.
Mike
27-10-09, 05:22 PM
None of the above.

I garantee the suspension leg is bent :thumb: i sheared one open when i hit a curb at 40ish in the snow early this year.
Danny s-p
28-10-09, 07:00 PM
the x meber and the hole front end is solide just bit of serfice rust here and there. all post some pic soon.the wheel is pushed to words the back off the car. and there is paint flaked off the top of the strut and wat fells to be a slite dent out woods were it come off. all try a new strut first as i have tow lade arouned at work.thanks all:thumb:
mowgli
29-10-09, 12:38 AM
the x meber and the hole front end is solide just bit of serfice rust here and there. all post some pic soon.the wheel is pushed to words the back off the car. and there is paint flaked off the top of the strut and wat fells to be a slite dent out woods were it come off. all try a new strut first as i have tow lade arouned at work.thanks all:thumb:

mike has already told you that it is the bottom arm. it is the designed weak point on nova suspension. undo it & fit a new one & all will go back into place. 10 minutes work
AlexW
29-10-09, 11:43 AM
Mowgli, if he says that there is a upwards dent and paint flakin off then surly hes found the problem? can just wait for pics.

New lower arm wont help it if its like he says it is.
bmw156
29-10-09, 01:09 PM
mike has already told you that it is the bottom arm. it is the designed weak point on nova suspension. undo it & fit a new one & all will go back into place. 10 minutes work

i replaced my lower arm any the tiebar and mine still sits back abit.

havent had a chance to get pics yet

but will get some of the inner turret and the wheel.

p.s it just passed an MOT like it so it cant be that bad
Danny s-p
29-10-09, 06:07 PM
Mowgli i have replaced the botom arm i rite it in the first bit all so replaced the tie rod. all try get some pic tonhgit or tomoro .
Danny s-p
29-10-09, 06:39 PM
http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/xx20/dannys-p08/Photo-0002.jpg
http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/xx20/dannys-p08/Photo-0003.jpg
http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/xx20/dannys-p08/Photo-0005.jpg
http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/xx20/dannys-p08/Photo-0007.jpg
http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/xx20/dannys-p08/Photo-0009.jpg
mowgli
29-10-09, 06:51 PM
was it a genuine suspension arm? because pattern parts are not very accurate.

i'm now guessing that the car needs jigging. to test this, you need to choose a few reference points on the car & measure the wheel postion in 3 dimensions, not just front and back.
Danny s-p
30-10-09, 07:25 PM
i have learnt how to post pic proerly so he we go.
http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/xx20/dannys-p08/Photo-0002.jpg
http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/xx20/dannys-p08/Photo-0003.jpg
http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/xx20/dannys-p08/Photo-0005.jpg
http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/xx20/dannys-p08/Photo-0006.jpg
http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/xx20/dannys-p08/Photo-0007.jpg
http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/xx20/dannys-p08/Photo-0009.jpg
thort add put a pic in of wen i first bourt the car
http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/xx20/dannys-p08/nova%20saloon/Photo-0087.jpg
let_nova
30-10-09, 07:28 PM
that front wheel looks wonkey when you bought it...
Danny s-p
30-10-09, 07:30 PM
weel trim hang off mate
bmw156
31-10-09, 04:11 PM
mine looks excatly the same in the above pic, with the wheel side on, and the bottom arm was probably worse then your bent one above,

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c325/bmw156/DSC_2809.jpg

i should of put the wheels straight, but you can get the idea that its more to the back then front.

also as said above, it passed an MOT, and the driving hasnt been affected at all.
mowgli
31-10-09, 04:24 PM
/\/\ that looks like tracking is a mile out
let_nova
31-10-09, 07:33 PM
hasnt been affected at al?? wtf your bottom arm is bent!!! dont believe that for a min!!!
bmw156
31-10-09, 08:00 PM
hasnt been affected at al?? wtf your bottom arm is bent!!! dont believe that for a min!!!
lol you retard, i obs replaced the bottom arm and tiebar.

and its still like that. do you not read the thread.

p.s when the bottom arm was bent the wheel was touching the inner splash guard and the wheel was crumbing under the car.
mowgli
31-10-09, 08:01 PM
lol you retard, i obs replaced the bottom arm and tiebar.

and its still like that. do you not read the thread.

and where did you get the replacements from???? and did you get the tracking checked???????


even stevie wonder could tell that something is still bent... the tie bar is not bent, because it is a straight bar, the strut will not be bend, or it would not work at all, so either the bottom arm or its mount is bent, or the track rod is nana shaped
bmw156
31-10-09, 08:02 PM
the replacment i got of a nova in the scrappy, both tiebar and bottom arm from the same car.

and the tracking, yeh i had it redone, just after i replaced the alloy! as that was knackered.
mowgli
31-10-09, 08:09 PM
So, you fitted an arm off a scrap car & you wonder why the wheel is still bent back..............................etc
bmw156
31-10-09, 09:37 PM
why is it a problem? Where can I get new ones?
mowgli
31-10-09, 10:19 PM
let me guess....
Welsh Dan
31-10-09, 10:26 PM
why is it a problem? Where can I get new ones?

http://www.buypartsby.co.uk/steering-and-suspension-final.php?make=Vauxhall&model=Nova&sub=&eng=1.2&year=1990
CoolTiger
01-11-09, 01:39 AM
Same as cooltigers, bent the xmember and tiebars etc.
well i bent xmember 2x tie bars and 2x lower arms lol not too much :D

the paint has cracked on my strut top like that also but wheels are back to normal