View Full Version : Turbo E16SE / C16SE
Mattig Nic
21-09-09, 03:47 PM
Does anyone know where i would be able to get hold of the necessary parts to build a turbo gsi unit??
I'm thinking:
-1650cc low-comp pistons
-Forged internals
-Cylinder head changes?? (Is there a way of lowering the compression within the head?? And i DON'T mean using a de-comp plate...)
-Suitable software (stand alone ecu etc)
I'm planning a winter project so want to get it all right if you catch my drift....
pikey1986
21-09-09, 03:48 PM
use the search, its been covered more than a v6 conversion lol
whats wrong with a de-comp plate??
pikey1986
21-09-09, 03:52 PM
dont some people use 2 hg's to lower the comp?
auzzy-b
21-09-09, 03:54 PM
I know they can take more horse power and give a quicker 0-60 but what bhp gain do steel billet rods give you roughly? (im thinking of goin the same way)
Stanley
21-09-09, 03:56 PM
None?
Theyre just stronger.
dont some people use 2 hg's to lower the comp?
that is indeed the pikey way of doing it
lol quicker 0-60 just from changing the rods is epic lol
lol quicker 0-60 just from changing the rods is epic lol
And true, due to them being stronger they spring up quicker lowering the compression and upping boost.
And true, due to them being stronger they spring up quicker lowering the compression and upping boost.sorry what??
Not a clue mate, not a clue.
auzzy-b
21-09-09, 04:32 PM
I Thought they was lighter? Therefore giving you more revs.. Like lightening you flywheel?????
I Thought they was lighter? Therefore giving you more revs.. Like lightening you flywheel?????lightening your flywheel wont give you more revs either lol and H-section rods usually are but not necessarily lighter either.
lightening and balencing doesnt give you more revs, it simply allows the engine to rev more freely and often gives you the potential to raise the rev limit.
auzzy-b
21-09-09, 04:42 PM
Sorry i meant QUICKER revs! Surely less weight for the engine to turn round the quicker it will be to get to its top speed, but the top end will be brought down..
Stanley
21-09-09, 04:43 PM
Just stop posting in this thread IMO.
but the top end will be brought down..sorry what?
Stanley
21-09-09, 04:46 PM
Exactly . . . .lol
spanishfly
21-09-09, 04:47 PM
Wow awesome facts!
djbrowney
21-09-09, 04:50 PM
what an epic thread, i wish had seen this before i started to purchase the parts for my engine lol lol lol lol lol
this thread is uber WIN!!!!
I think someone is confused between steel rods and a final drive gear ratio swap lmao
spanishfly
21-09-09, 05:09 PM
No Steel rods give you more power, more fuel gives you more reliabilty and VTEC is just FTMFO YO!
auzzy-b
21-09-09, 05:10 PM
Looks like i have have been seriously misled!lol
oh and dump valves give you like a billion mega bhpz.
spanishfly
21-09-09, 05:13 PM
oh and dump valves give you like a billion mega bhpz.
Is that all? Rip off man! Cha bludfire
lol
as for the original post.
Good luck finding low compression pistons for the 1.6/1650 bore...they were allegedly made in brazil but no one EVER saw any. You might get lucky if you can get a piston catologue from an engine builder and go through it finding the right sizxe etc to do the job.... that will be fun lol.
The head hasnt got that much space in it to machine out to drop the CR, but since the heads are dirt cheap its not impossible to get a head and make cuts through it to find the thicknesses of the chamber etc.
as for management, megasquirt/dta/mbe/any you want really, they will all do the job. Depends if you are going to map it or take it somewhere.
craig green
21-09-09, 05:19 PM
Good luck finding low compression pistons for the 1.6/1650 bore...they were allegedly made in brazil but no one EVER saw any. You might get lucky if you can get a piston catologue from an engine builder and go through it finding the right size etc to do the job.... that will be fun lol.
TOYOTA ;)
Can we ban subsequent threads on this subject? Admin?
well I did ask some folks who know their ass from their elbows to write a sodding guide/article on it but they didnt.... mr green (unless I sent it to the wrong CG lmao)
well I did ask some folks who know their ass from their elbows to write a sodding guide/article on it but they didnt.... mr green (unless I sent it to the wrong CG lmao)
Thats true lol one day ill get round to it lol
Thats true lol one day ill get round to it lol
till then no more whinging about these threads :p
get your self on www.vaux-extreme.com (http://www.vaux-extreme.com) and ask them as on here if its not XE/LET no ones realy that interested and also on the other site theres a guy (in america) who makes uprated pistons and stuff.
rickyb
get your self on www.vaux-extreme.com (http://www.vaux-extreme.com) and ask them as on here if its not XE/LET no ones realy that interested and also on the other site theres a guy (in america) who makes uprated pistons and stuff.
rickyb
FAIL.
lots of knowledge on small block turbos on here... just needs to be found thats all.
Mattig Nic
21-09-09, 10:53 PM
TOYOTA ;)
Can we ban subsequent threads on this subject? Admin?
are you saying use toyota pistons??
are you saying use toyota pistons??
no he said toyota for a laugh :wall:
YES he is saying toyota pistons (which ones though, prehaps you could do some work for :p)
FAIL.
lots of knowledge on small block turbos on here... just needs to be found thats all.
that maybe the case and i realise that its been coverd loads of times but on the other site thay tell you stuff and not just give you sarky coments.
so stick it.
Must be at least a thread a week on this.
IMO if you have to ask don't bother.
auzzy-b
22-09-09, 10:02 AM
that maybe the case and i realise that its been coverd loads of times but on the other site thay tell you stuff and not just give you sarky coments.
so stick it.
Good on ya! +Rep for standing up to admin hahahar.
auzzy-b
22-09-09, 10:02 AM
that maybe the case and i realise that its been coverd loads of times but on the other site thay tell you stuff and not just give you sarky coments.
so stick it.
Good on ya! +Rep for standing up to admin hahahahahaha
Southie
22-09-09, 10:04 AM
mmmm double post fail lol
Oh I went on the other link and found this SLOTHDREAMBOATMILLIONAIRE (http://www.vaux-extreme.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1053):d
auzzy-b
22-09-09, 10:42 AM
Lmao now! :rolls: stupid phone lol
that maybe the case and i realise that its been coverd loads of times but on the other site thay tell you stuff and not just give you sarky coments.
so stick it.
put your toys back in the pram lol
note the sarky comments mostly came regarding the retarded thoughts about steel conrods....;)
no he said toyota for a laugh :wall:
YES he is saying toyota pistons (which ones though, prehaps you could do some work for :p)
4E-FTE? Mind you, I'd rather have those pistons in that engine in a Glanza V rather than in a Nova lol
pass, depends what bore/height/gudgeon pin/cronw thikness/eveyrthing else that needs measuring comes out as
novajulz
22-09-09, 07:14 PM
hi mate i have Pmd you back.
mmmm double post fail lol
Oh I went on the other link and found this SLOTHDREAMBOATMILLIONAIRE (http://www.vaux-extreme.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1053):d
nope you fail, as i was asking for my mateb pete-c-xe who actually bought it. :p
get your self on www.vaux-extreme.com (http://www.vaux-extreme.com) and ask them as on here if its not XE/LET no ones realy that interested and also on the other site theres a guy (in america) who makes uprated pistons and stuff.
rickyb
Been there done that & TBH didnt really find that site very useful for small block stuff at all. Theory the same yes, in reality, well erm as said no use at all really.
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