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torquey
11-09-09, 07:57 PM
what do you rekon is quicker 106 gti or a 2ltr 8 valve nova?:eek:

Plug
11-09-09, 07:57 PM
2ltr 8v nova

napalm_27
11-09-09, 07:57 PM
nova as it wont fail on you :)

Spudly
11-09-09, 07:59 PM
Either the pug or they would be level tbh as 106 GTi's aint shy!

mowgli
11-09-09, 08:05 PM
top speed or acceleration?

srs1
11-09-09, 08:06 PM
if i didn't like nova's the only other small car i would have is a 106.

think they look awsome in yellow.

Pistol Pete
11-09-09, 08:09 PM
I'd go for the 106 personally. 1.6 16v in something that weighs as much a lettuce leaf...nuff said IMO.

Adam
11-09-09, 08:09 PM
GTI will be quicker imo and handle better!!

Very very under-rated cars

Plug
11-09-09, 08:09 PM
sundance yellow is an awesome colour :)

shame the pedals are close :(

Adam
11-09-09, 08:10 PM
China blue and Diablo red also look cool :cool:

sparkie1401
11-09-09, 08:15 PM
not shy but very **** mr spudly

there has only been one decent pug (1.9 GTi 205) and they were still ****

Adam
11-09-09, 08:15 PM
S**t in what way???

Spudly
11-09-09, 08:17 PM
not shy but very **** mr spudly

there has only been one decent pug (1.9 GTi 205) and they were still ****


They might be poo and french but theyre light and fast and handle really well from what ive heard, ask mike he will be able to tell you about 106 GTi's

loggyboy
11-09-09, 08:19 PM
Gti will go better as it has a great engine/gearbox combo, but if you get a good 8v (early SRi130 rather than the 117bhp later ones) the nova might stick it to the pug.
id have to audition both.

sparkie1401
11-09-09, 08:22 PM
They might be poo and french but theyre light and fast and handle really well from what ive heard, ask mike he will be able to tell you about 106 GTi's

im in agreement with you but they are poo, Gti will 8/10 beat it great engine, they look good but they could have been so much better

please dont speak to me about the X's 206:mad:

smcgsi16v
11-09-09, 08:24 PM
GTI will be quicker and handle better!!

Very very under-rated cars

:eek: :thumb:

Stanley
11-09-09, 08:27 PM
http://mikeatuni.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/106gti-2396631296_fd04004ede4.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v221/quick106/shine13edit.jpghttp://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b201/WARDY-SEI/Lookingclean.jpghttp://www.teamshock.co.uk/forum/album_picm.php?pic_id=6345

torquey
11-09-09, 08:39 PM
i would of thought a 8 valve nova would be quicker more low down torque for starters.

Mike
11-09-09, 08:40 PM
The GTi will be quicker.

I fail to see how they are sh1t? Does Nova's come with 16v motors as standard? Leather? Optional air con? Power steering? Airbags? Torsion bar rear suspension??

Nah i didnt think so....

vxr_racing_2008
11-09-09, 08:40 PM
I think 106 would be gone tbh:(

torquey
11-09-09, 08:42 PM
how do you come to that conclusion? they are both simular power from standard depending if its a c20seh which has more power than a 106.

Mike
11-09-09, 08:43 PM
how do you come to that conclusion? they are both simular power from standard depending if its a c20seh which has more power than a 106.

Power is nothing chap, nothing at all.

Ive driven prolly well over a hundred standard GTi's/Rallye's & XSi's, race'd & rallied super modified ones in the BTRDA in years gone by, the GTi would win, it wouldnt pish it, but it would win.

None the less, your comparing a modified car to a standard car, so any result is instantly viod.

Pistol Pete
11-09-09, 08:46 PM
The GTi will be quicker.

I fail to see how they are sh1t? Does Nova's come with 16v motors as standard? Leather? Optional air con? Power steering? Airbags? Torsion bar rear suspension??

Nah i didnt think so....

Funking hell yeah!! :thumb: My thoughts exactly.

Mike
11-09-09, 08:50 PM
I could always go borrow some of my mates GTi cup cars & go prove it a santa pod? Failing that I'd go buy one of my old ones back from where ever they are now.....

Either one of these would've pished an SEH, NE or XE on tarmac. The Blaze yellow one more so (186bhp 1.6 16v N/A - sadly the last an only pics of it in its new owners workshop :( )

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j181/mikenova/Random/Image010.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j181/mikenova/Random/Image011.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j181/mikenova/Random/Image012.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j181/mikenova/Random/Image014.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j181/mikenova/Random/Image016.jpg

NOVA-KID-93
11-09-09, 10:50 PM
Id say the 106 too, a lad I know who has a 106 GTI (140bhp) raced this other lad I know with a XE'd nova (170bhp) and the GTI won, I was shocked top say the least, but then again depends on the driver I suppose.


(was on a Private road by BTW!!!)

bai1ey
11-09-09, 10:56 PM
i had a xsara vts 167 bhp model stripped just had the front seat on dash in and my mates 106 gti fully kitted out walked the floor with me

my xsara would keep with my bros redtop corsa

Mike
11-09-09, 11:00 PM
All you need on a GTi is IMO a Group N ECU, Group N induction kit, Pug Sport exhaust system, any old performance manifold an you'll have a reet little scorcher. If your picky Pug Sport bottom arms an some Billies. Job done.

large_steve182
12-09-09, 07:33 AM
i love ripping into the french, especially the cars.
i was kind of eating my words when my mate let me drive his gti.
no idea what he had done but funny performance clutch as it was rediculously heavy.
as im an amature and have a heavy foot (hehe) i put the foot down and i was very suprised and impressed. there very responsive and what seemed like no lag through the revs.

but would be close i would imagine. possibly the gti winning it a little

Ernie
12-09-09, 07:54 AM
My ex use to have the 106 q/s.
That was a great laugh to chuck around the bends and would kick **** on a standard gsi/gte.
As for the gti a friend had one and as mike said it would out handle a 2ltr 8v nova no probs.
The only prob i had was it was to french and the peddles were to close apart from that it was a giggle on the back roads.

comptoncj
12-09-09, 08:09 AM
i had a quiksilver between novas n it was a laugh would beat my mates corsa sports n anything else that was a 1.4 ish, gti's are quick and would out accelerate the 2ltr nova off the line just because they have better traction, although i did see one once go through a set of front tyres doing a burnout in a carpark.

L33 LEG
12-09-09, 08:45 AM
I'd say the GTi would be quicker too. awesome cars imo!

Adam
12-09-09, 10:00 AM
It seems we have a few 106 gti fans on here then :p:

I think a few people just wont accept that they are good cars tbh, it also seems that for some reason there book figure bhp is lower than they actually make! Most also seem to make 125+, from a standard engine.

If i could find a gti for a similar price to a old saxo vts, id have one tomorrow

SRimon
12-09-09, 10:22 AM
I love em too, never plumped to buying one though.

TBH a friend had one when I had my 16v Nova, and it was a lot closer on my tail then i'd have liked lol.

Dar
12-09-09, 10:31 AM
The Pug all day long. Some people are under the illusion that a Nova is a good car. Wierdos.



there has only been one decent pug (1.9 GTi 205) and they were still ****

Ahem, the GTI-6 IS the best they have made.

sparkie1401
12-09-09, 10:35 AM
The GTi will be quicker.

I fail to see how they are sh1t? Does Nova's come with 16v motors as standard? Leather? Optional air con? Power steering? Airbags? Torsion bar rear suspension??

Nah i didnt think so....

thats an unfair comparicon, 16v was barely in any car when the nova was in its prime, leather?? WTF A/C again barely any cars had this in the novas time, PAS is the same even my dads old company GLS sierra didnt have this, Airbags, agian are more modern technology, and just because its got one doesnt mean its safe, they are very poor in a crash still (like a nova) most small french cars have that rear set up! basically the comparison is biast to your opinion , the thread is about which was quicker to be fair

in all fairnes the the corsa B was around at the same time as the GTi and had the same equipment levels ABS,PAS airbags etc

they are quick and handle well look good, BUT they are naf poor qulity inside, terrible brakes, axels last ten minutes before they need replacing, haha sorry so they are exactly the same as a nova, so why are we even having this discussion

to conclude:

Gti quicker

both cars pants lol lol

SRimon
12-09-09, 10:40 AM
Good posting that ^^^^

Adam
12-09-09, 10:40 AM
A corsa B GSi is the equivalent to a 106 gti, and is pretty ****e comparing the two.
GSi=Crap vaux power steering/abs, rust, under powered engines(as std), cloth interior, no air con.......

GTi is exactly the opposite of the above..........

And i like corsa gsi's too.......

sparkie1401
12-09-09, 10:40 AM
[

Ahem, the GTI-6 IS the best they have made.[/quote]

come on mr Dar they werent that good, the 205 was the bees knees in the 80's with only the little 5GTturbo even close to it

the GTi-6 six was not iconic, although it paved the way for the civic and corolla T sport

sparkie1401
12-09-09, 10:45 AM
A corsa B GSi is the equivalent to a 106 gti, and is pretty ****e comparing the two.
GSi=Crap vaux power steering/abs, rust, under powered engines(as std), cloth interior, no air con.......

GTi is exactly the opposite of the above..........

And i like corsa gsi's too.......

remember GTi's were slighty newer in comparison to the Corsa GSi

the C16XE was about 113BHp very similar to the GTi 106

PAS and ABS works or it doesnt, you could Fit A/C if you wanted easy enough, tigra nuff said

again as it was still older than the GTi so A/C was still barely in most cars like today

so what about leather, 1/2 leather anyway

im standing my ground they are a poor qulity car with a good engine that is all (so is a Nova)

airbag is pointless ass they are not a safe car

Dar
12-09-09, 10:46 AM
Ahem, the GTI-6 IS the best they have made.

come on mr Dar they werent that good, the 205 was the bees knees in the 80's with only the little 5GTturbo even close to it

the GTi-6 six was not iconic, although it paved the way for the civic and corolla T sport

You are obviously jesting.

SRimon
12-09-09, 10:48 AM
A corsa B GSi is the equivalent to a 106 gti, and is pretty ****e comparing the two.
GSi=Crap vaux power steering/abs, rust, under powered engines(as std), cloth interior, no air con.......

GTi is exactly the opposite of the above..........

And i like corsa gsi's too.......

I think the earliest GTi came out on a P plate, so a good 3 years newer than the GSi.

The Corsa Sport is probably the best comparasion, lol, but still not in the same league.

Adam
12-09-09, 10:49 AM
remember GTi's were slighty newer in comparison to the Corsa GSi

the C16XE was about 113BHp very similar to the GTi 106

PAS and ABS works or it doesnt, you could Fit A/C if you wanted easy enough, tigra nuff said

again as it was still older than the GTi so A/C was still barely in most cars like today

so what about leather, 1/2 leather anyway

im standing my ground they are a poor qulity car with a good engine that is all (so is a Nova)

airbag is pointless ass they are not a safe car
Fair points, but "pas and abs works" isnt really a true statement.
Everyone knows how shocking vaux power steering and abs was in the 90's!!! :thumb:

Adam
12-09-09, 10:50 AM
I think the earliest GTi came out on a P plate, so a good 3 years newer than the GSi.

The Corsa Sport is probably the best comparasion, lol, but still not in the same league.
But a corsa sport had the same stuff a gsi had??? lol

sparkie1401
12-09-09, 11:00 AM
corsa sport SSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

lol

no im not jesting Dar, ok maybe about the corolla, but the 306 GTi-6 is no where near as iconic a s a 205 GTi and looks just like a D-turbo

ther type R was a cracking car!

ok adam

its not that i dislike the 106 GTi but i suppose if we were all the same life would be dull, but my point is

i love my nova, enjoy being part of the PNG but they are still crap they were the baby cheap entry level car, poor trim, rusted if not loved, no equipment due to it being in the 80's mainly poor driving position, very easy to steel but i love em

you like the 106 more than me, yes it'll will be fun but they are not a good car, regardless that they got some modern equipment, it is a 1996/7 vehicle

but they are poor quality trim, bad brakes, poor axels

in fairness they are peugeots entry level car just like the Nova was

PAS, you should try my dad new laguna, talk about leak and the A/C kin hell!!

Stoo
12-09-09, 11:02 AM
Nova

Blatantly

Because ALL French cars are crap.
Well, they are if you have your blinkers on!! :)

sparkie1401
12-09-09, 11:06 AM
Nova

Blatantly

Because ALL French cars are crap.
Well, they are if you have your blinkers on!! :)

LOL, nice sense of humour

Dar
12-09-09, 11:11 AM
no im not jesting Dar, ok maybe
I knew it:d
Anyhoo, this thread is about two little cars and not one awesome car, so we shall leave it as that:thumb:

Stoo
12-09-09, 11:11 AM
ITs not a sense of humour.

Its Sarcasm, or Irony.

Adam
12-09-09, 11:16 AM
So shall we agree to disagree???

sparkie1401
12-09-09, 11:17 AM
I knew it:d
Anyhoo, this thread is about two little cars and not one awesome car, so we shall leave it as that:thumb:

haha ok

your car is cool stoo!

Stoo
12-09-09, 11:18 AM
My car is epic, and very under rated.

But that's just my opinion.

Alas, because it's French, by proxy it's crap.

sparkie1401
12-09-09, 11:32 AM
i like renaults, its not crap i nearly had one but already had evo so didnt bother, but it was original 225sport on a 55

the worse thing imo is the dash its same throughout the range

Stoo
12-09-09, 11:35 AM
Dash is OK IMHO

However, I;m too busy watching the road to notice the dash usually!!

Paul
12-09-09, 11:40 AM
106 gti are very good cars IMO. im not interested in build quality, luxury etc, if i wanted that id buy a 4 year old mondeo for the same money. this thread is aimed the fun factor!

And the GTI would kick an 8V's backside...

Jack
12-09-09, 11:49 AM
106GTi is the car I'd have to replace the Nova. Mind you, it only pips the Glanza V on price; followed by an S13.

Its also one of the only few Euro hatches I like (along with the aforementioned GTi-6)

Mike
12-09-09, 05:05 PM
BUT they are naf poor qulity inside, terrible brakes, axels last ten minutes before they need replacing, haha sorry so they are exactly the same as a nova, so why are we even having this discussion

You must have either drove a crock of sh1t one, owned a crock of sh1t one OR just generally know fcuk all about them.

Ive never had any issues with standard brakes on them, nor the rear axles on a road car? My conlcusion is you talk sh1t, youve never owned a decent one, if one at all, an your to high on your soap box to admit they are the better car.

BTW, PAS, leather an Aircon have been out years, my dads old Toyota Space Cruiser on a A reg had all the aforementioned :thumb:and full leather option was avaliable on a GTi if you had the cash :thumb:

draper
12-09-09, 05:23 PM
im going foe the GTi aswell

ive just picked up a quicksilver and have to say the interior is miles better than any nova lol

the 1.4 does seem very underpowered tho but that could be due to the fact its been sitting a while - a GTi engine and box is about the same price as a smokey old XE tho lol ;)

Mike
12-09-09, 05:28 PM
Drapes, i used to pay £100 for a GTi engine & box when i needed them, or about £600 for a complete Cat C/D car lol IMHO there as cheap as a Nova to fix

Give us a shout when you need an engine chap, i should be able to sort you out a treat :thumb:

John
12-09-09, 05:34 PM
Unusually i'd go for the gti here too. Lad at work had one, was an awesome bit of kit! Only prob he had with his was the coil pack iirc, and he gave it death, everywhere!

Paul16v
12-09-09, 05:57 PM
106 gti's are a great car they are quick and handle extreamly well for what they are,i loved my old 1
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v324/paul16v/pugchrono.jpg

Pistol Pete
12-09-09, 06:21 PM
^ that is fooking tidy. Fair play.

Ste L
12-09-09, 06:42 PM
106 will win...

the 106 GTI would give a valver nova a very good run for it's money, and probably easy have it off round a track in the hand's of a good driver

Mike
12-09-09, 06:44 PM
106 will win...

the 106 GTI would give a valver nova a very good run for it's money, and probably easy have it off round a track in the hand's of a good driver

Amen bro :thumb: on the wavelenght an all that ;)

Adam
12-09-09, 06:45 PM
Damn, im lookiing for a 106 gti now lol lol lol

Ste L
12-09-09, 06:46 PM
i dont see thing's through blinkered eye's, like most young nova(or on corsasport, corsa) owners thinking they are the best car's out there...

i'd defo own one if i didn't have so many bit's for my corsa, not worth selling up now tbh




still a ****ty french car though

Mike
12-09-09, 06:48 PM
LOL@ Ad haha, ive been looking at buying one for months, just one thing at a time at the mo.

Ste, fully agree Re: Best cars comment :) just not with the end bit :P

Ste L
12-09-09, 06:55 PM
lol

muzzy
12-09-09, 07:08 PM
I was quite dissapointed when i drove a 106 GTI (standard engine), thought it would be much quicker than it was but it handled amazingly. Saying that i've never driven a 2.0 8v Nova. Overall i would say the 106 would take the Nova on the corners without many problems (assuming the driver was any use).

Jack
12-09-09, 07:32 PM
i dont see thing's through blinkered eye's, like most young nova(or on corsasport, corsa) owners thinking they are the best car's out there...
Pfft, Novas are rubbish lol

The deciding factors as to why I purchased a Nova over a 106 were:

1. Cost. The 106 GTi was more expensive (at the time) than a Nova.
2. Size. The GTi was too small, I wanted a saloon car.
3. Knowledge. I know more about Novas than I do 106s.
4. Reliability. At the end of the day, its French lol
5. Modifiability. I wanted something that I could play with, relatively easily (kinda goes hand in hand with #3).

Handling was not an issue as I didn't build the car to go round corners, just be fast in a straight line. If cost, size, knowledge, reliability and modifiability weren't so prominent, I'd have one. Assuming I couldn't find a Glanza V that is lol

Stoo
12-09-09, 07:35 PM
4. Reliability. At the end of the day, its French lol

Boooooooooooring!

French cars are extremely reliable nowadays.
And have been for the past god knows how many years.
It's the dealers and after care that sucks!!!

Jack
12-09-09, 07:43 PM
Nowadays, yes, but pretty much everyone I know who's had French cars of that era (late 90s) had a raft of problems.

Mike
12-09-09, 07:44 PM
Fcuk it im gonna buy one soon an prove a point then me thinks.

Ive defiently gotta get some form of performance car else im gonna end up getting another bastid Nova/Corsa!

stevei
12-09-09, 08:21 PM
interesting read this thread. I think I can help as i own a 106 GTi as a daily driver. The 106 GTi would be quicker than the 2.0 8valve nova. 106 GTi's are really understated. The problem is with some people thinking they have realibility issuies is that must have drove/owned/mate had a knacker thats been hammered every day of its life 'cause its a GTi. I don't care what it is. Anything will break if you drive it like a t**t all the time.

I've had my 106 over a year now. I bought it as a trade in at work to repalce my rusty **** corsa sport. Its had one old guy owner from new and it had only done 34k. now its done 50k. I've serviced it as per the schedule and NOT had ANY problems at all!!! It handles and drives great out of the box. The pedal box i think is perfect. very easy to heal and toe. so much so, i've heated and modified my nova throttle pedal so it sits close and low like the 106.

I've worked at many different dealers and owners an absolute s**t load of different cars. some i liked, some i did'nt. but the GTi is a deffinate winner.
I recently purchased a Skoda Fabia vRS. I never saw me owning a skoda but what a car!! its awsome.


Don't get me wrong I love nova's. Thats why i own one and spend loads of money on it. Thats also why it my nova number 14!

Heres a quick pic of my 106 GTi when i bought it

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/9595/hpim0549.th.jpg (http://img11.imageshack.us/i/hpim0549.jpg/)

Its nearly standard with BMC CDA carbon air box, Sparco lower strut brace, clear side repeaters and thats it!

Mike if you buy one you won't be disapointed. If its gonna be a track car look at a 106 Rallye in bianca white with a 16valve motor in. think that would be cool

cheers

ste

Mike
12-09-09, 08:28 PM
Mike if you buy one you won't be disapointed. If its gonna be a track car look at a 106 Rallye in bianca white with a 16valve motor in. think that would be cool

Stevei, i know mate ive owned a few already lol look further back thru this thread an you'll see one of my old rally cars lol

Also had the pant ****ting experience of driving a 204 bhp (ATF) XSi!

muzzy
12-09-09, 08:45 PM
I used to want a GTI but i would only have a s1 Rallye or an XSI now, there is something about the early 106's that i really like. That and my old 106 Rallye was quite a nippy thing.

stevei
12-09-09, 08:54 PM
204bhp:eek: sweet. Having taking my Nova to work today to fit a quaife quick rack (:)) there is no doubt that my Nova would spank the hell out of my 106 but the nova has extensive mods. so imagine extensive mods to the 106. cricky:cool: that would be a weapon!

ste

Mike
12-09-09, 09:01 PM
cricky:cool: that would be a weapon!

186bhp we saw in the yellow one in the pics lol simply couldnt afford to go any further or keep the car anymore though.

stevei
12-09-09, 09:38 PM
thats some good power. throttle bodies I'm guessing. this is the thing with 106's and Nova's. their proven in many different kinds motorsport so there is many parts and processes that are easy to find and follow and make a quick car.

ste

Mike
12-09-09, 10:18 PM
A damn sight more then some Jenveys!

sparkie1401
12-09-09, 10:39 PM
You must have either drove a crock of sh1t one, owned a crock of sh1t one OR just generally know fcuk all about them.

Ive never had any issues with standard brakes on them, nor the rear axles on a road car? My conlcusion is you talk sh1t, youve never owned a decent one, if one at all, an your to high on your soap box to admit they are the better car.

BTW, PAS, leather an Aircon have been out years, my dads old Toyota Space Cruiser on a A reg had all the aforementioned :thumb:and full leather option was avaliable on a GTi if you had the cash :thumb:

i know enough about em to know they aren't a good car, they prob are better than the nova but i think this is only due to them coming along later in life

my conclusion is i dont talk sh1t at all i dont ever want to own one, but i know cars and worked in salvage for over 7 years so i know what parts/engines were good and what were bad

japanese cars have always been infront, is this the same vehicle as in this thread which would be aimed at the same market (super- mini)

im not on a soap box at all an i dont see your point in getting arsey and personal

im entitled to my view as your are yours, i didnt insult you or your views

Mike
12-09-09, 10:50 PM
So how can you say there that bad if youve never owned one? Oh becuase you worked in salvage where all the broked cars go, silly me lol lol salvage cars are salvage for a reason, because there fcuked.

Its not as if minters go to salvage yards everyday now is it.

So what about the phase 1 106's that were out when Mk2's Nova were practically new? Im sure sales wise they matched the Nova did they not?

Cheap car for masses they both were, but GTi v's GSi sales & performance wise, its a no brainer lol

General Baxter
12-09-09, 10:53 PM
Its not as if minters go to salvage yards everyday now is it.


yes they do theres loads of them in my scrappy, with untaxed, uninsured, stickers all over them lol

sparkie1401
12-09-09, 11:08 PM
So how can you say there that bad if youve never owned one? Oh becuase you worked in salvage where all the broked cars go, silly me lol lol salvage cars are salvage for a reason, because there fcuked.

Its not as if minters go to salvage yards everyday now is it.

So what about the phase 1 106's that were out when Mk2's Nova were practically new? Im sure sales wise they matched the Nova did they not?

Cheap car for masses they both were, but GTi v's GSi sales & performance wise, its a no brainer lol

so youve never wanted a second hand part for your car???? lucky you, thanks for pointing out that ****ed cars go to salvage yards i really had no idea.i sold more saxo 106 206 306 axels than i care to remember and gearboxes inc Gti
ive already agreed about performance ?

are you just wanting an argument about nothing are are you just being an **** today?lol

General Baxter
12-09-09, 11:09 PM
just mike lol

sparkie1401
12-09-09, 11:16 PM
cunny funtlol

bai1ey
12-09-09, 11:34 PM
the back axle is from people trying to do the tortion bars the wrong way and ****ing bearing s and things up

sparkie1401
12-09-09, 11:37 PM
the back axle is from people trying to do the tortion bars the wrong way and ****ing bearing s and things up

possibly true, sold a lot of standard ones too! to your non boy racer typelol

dj_wudgey
13-09-09, 10:58 AM
id go for the nova me i hate 106/saxo's there w*nk!!

torquey
13-09-09, 05:27 PM
agreed i hate s**t french cars. i personally think a 2ltr nova is quicker than a 106 gti. been in my mates which is nippy but there is only 1 way to find out and that is to race them side by side.

tashley6
15-09-09, 05:04 PM
blitz 1 down cortonwood in my 2.0 8v c20seh SALOON over rated french S**T!!! GET A VAUXHALL and join the 1.2 NOVA CREW hahahah

Mike
15-09-09, 05:13 PM
blitz 1 down cortonwood in my 2.0 8v c20seh SALOON over rated french S**T!!! GET A VAUXHALL and join the 1.2 NOVA CREW hahahah

Grow up & get a life dick heed.

This thread is old news.....

torquey
15-09-09, 05:14 PM
damm f****n right i think they over rated too. vauxhall ftw.

Stoo
15-09-09, 05:17 PM
Oh my god
Really

How old are you guys!?!?

Who actually seriously cares??

Or are you too blinkered and immature to admit that there might actually be a better car on the road than a nova???

Get a grip and grow up.

Jeez 10 pages of this crap!

Mike
15-09-09, 05:18 PM
^ what he says lol

Funny thing is, XSi's look like GTi's externally apart from some badges, thats prolly what he was racing lol lol cant see an SEH taking down a GTi ever at all no no lol

Dar
15-09-09, 05:19 PM
GET A VAUXHALL and join the 1.2 NOVA CREW hahahah

Ahh, if the OP had said a 1.2 Nova instead of a 2ltr 8 valve nova, then it would be another story. Everyone knows that a 1.2 Nova IS one of the fastest cars on the road today.

and now that I have posted that load of bollocks! I would like to say Viva La France! French cars rule!

Stoo
15-09-09, 05:21 PM
I just need to throw something in here

If you raced these 2 cars against a ROLFCOPTER, what would win??

Mike
15-09-09, 05:23 PM
Would depend if its a Lotus ROFLCOPTER though Stoo :thumb:

Dar
15-09-09, 05:23 PM
I just need to throw something in here

If you raced these 2 cars against a ROLFCOPTER, what would win??

My money is on Rolf
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f287/Seddon243/rolf_harris.jpg

EDIT:
Do you think Rolf Harris looks like the KFC Colonel

http://mockduck.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/colonel-sanders_kfc.jpg

I do

Stoo
15-09-09, 05:24 PM
Its an LM edition :)

Mike
15-09-09, 05:25 PM
Its an LM edition :)

COPTER all day long then :)

nova-saloon
15-09-09, 06:16 PM
my mates got a s1 106 rallye (standard engine) and that would beat a 2.0 8v nova all day long. His quickest 1/4 mile time was 16.6 secs, which is probably quicker than most standard 2.0 8v novas.

some pics

http://i515.photobucket.com/albums/t359/Briggs-SR/359190339a9693290385l1.jpg
http://i515.photobucket.com/albums/t359/Briggs-SR/359190339a9693273780l1.jpg

Spudly
15-09-09, 06:18 PM
I just need to throw something in here

If you raced these 2 cars against a ROLFCOPTER, what would win??


The ROFLWAFFLEVAN lol


http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a36/spudly01/Random%20stuff/roflwaffle.gif

nova-saloon
15-09-09, 06:21 PM
/\ Lol thats brilliant

Andy
15-09-09, 06:26 PM
These threads come up time and time again
Ive said it before and i will say again.These along with Saxo Vts are really capable cars which are Far Far better in standard trim than a Nova Gsi.They are very quick and nimble through the bends and anyone who says Novas are better have clearly never driven one.

Jamie D
15-09-09, 06:50 PM
ive owned an ax gt vts same engine as the 106 and they go like **** off a shovel it was standard, raced a civic type R, astra gsi, clio sport, mg zr 160 and a 205 gti on twin 45 webbers and pulled away from them all also had a race with my mates corsa redtop and it cept with that..the 106 is a bit heavier than an ax i know But they are a realy good pulling engine, the only bad thing was it breaking every outher week, gearbox engine mount driveshaft ect ect i can say 100% a 106 gti would rape a 2.0 8v

Mike
15-09-09, 08:16 PM
106 gti would rape a 2.0 8v

I said this about 9 pages back lol

Flaming is now imminent lol

Jack
15-09-09, 08:40 PM
my mates got a s1 106 rallye (standard engine) and that would beat a 2.0 8v nova all day long. His quickest 1/4 mile time was 16.6 secs, which is probably quicker than most standard 2.0 8v novas.

some pics

http://i515.photobucket.com/albums/t359/Briggs-SR/359190339a9693290385l1.jpg
http://i515.photobucket.com/albums/t359/Briggs-SR/359190339a9693273780l1.jpg
Whats those wheels on the back? They look rather nice

Nobby
15-09-09, 10:41 PM
i raced a GTI in my old xe nova it was up my **** like a good un round the twistys but i pulled away on the straights! I think that th 106 and 205 gtis are the only french cars i would own my mate has a 1.9 gti and that keeps all day with my mates corsa xe and having driven a 2.0 8v ne engine nova imo there **** plus the weight of a big 8v lump compared to a small 1.6 would banish the big block vs small block lark more power bla bla bla

muzzy
15-09-09, 10:51 PM
Without a doubt the French is going to piss all over a Nova unless it had some very good suspension set up. Chassis's are what Peugeot do best.

mrT
15-09-09, 11:24 PM
i agree with the pug being better on the bends,as ive got one,but a 106/saxo 16v pissing all over a 2.0 8 valve nova is a bit much,maybe slightly quicker if its a good one but only just,raced a few in nothin in it tbh,

muzzy
15-09-09, 11:27 PM
I should have said in the corners, straight line i think it would be fair game.

scott.parker
16-09-09, 12:28 AM
106

ben doodar
16-09-09, 01:16 PM
i dualed a saxo vtr down our local d road, in my 2.0 8v seh nova with a four branch, and magnex exhaust, and i only just pulled from the vtr doin the top end of 4th and 5th gear. gti would do it all day long.

joeSRI
16-09-09, 02:04 PM
Dont know much about them but do like one. How much we talking for a decent standard facelift one? £2-3k?

vauxboi
16-09-09, 03:19 PM
all the talk bout how unrealible the french cars are is rubbish any car really as long as you look after it can be realiable. the 106's easily the better car

hc coupe
16-09-09, 03:50 PM
This conversation tires me. Whats more to the point (well at least what I'm yet to understand)


Is.... why is there a chasm between the views of a VTS and a GTI. I thought they were mechanically the same....yet one gets massive abuse and the other praise ?

Stanley
16-09-09, 03:52 PM
Is.... why is there a chasm between the views of VTS and GTI . I thought they were mechanically the same....yet one gets massive abuse and the other praise ?

They are the same. Fact.

nova-saloon
16-09-09, 03:55 PM
Whats those wheels on the back? They look rather nice

Not to sure rj i think they're called something like Fondmetal:confused: , he got them off a 205 gti he bought for £180, it also came with 5 mint 309 goodwood rims - bargain

Stoo
16-09-09, 05:01 PM
Stiiiiiiiiill going!!!

Dar
16-09-09, 05:15 PM
Stiiiiiiiiill going!!!
Stiiiiiiiiill boring!!!

Jack
16-09-09, 05:24 PM
http://www.currentfilm.com/images5/neverendingstorydvdcover.jpg


This conversation tires me. Whats more to the point (well at least what I'm yet to understand)


Is.... why is there a chasm between the views of a VTS and a GTI. I thought they were mechanically the same....yet one gets massive abuse and the other praise ?
Only reason I don't like the VTS is because its a saxo lol I don't like the way they look, simples.

L14MNP
16-09-09, 06:03 PM
http://i515.photobucket.com/albums/t359/Briggs-SR/359190339a9693290385l1.jpg
http://i515.photobucket.com/albums/t359/Briggs-SR/359190339a9693273780l1.jpg

I'll not join in the debate. lol Instead I will ask why your mate is running dished low ET rims on the back only? Reminds me of the wannabe RWD water cooled VW crew. lol

Mike
16-09-09, 06:44 PM
Is.... why is there a chasm between the views of a VTS and a GTI. I thought they were mechanically the same....yet one gets massive abuse and the other praise ?

VTR/VTS was mass produced. GTi wasn't (well to an extent)

Top Gear road test one in 1998/9 sometime looking for road handling and stopping power. The GTi came second to a £70,000 Porsche 911 for braking/stopping power.

Dar
16-09-09, 07:05 PM
Check this out
Click this thing (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2053328027664524544#)
Then navigate to 2:40 and then to 10:45
aww bless it.

Joe Richardson
16-09-09, 08:15 PM
Not my cup of tea:(

I hate how you open the doors on the 106's aswelllol

scott.parker
16-09-09, 08:17 PM
I was going to buy one, as when i was 20 it was a toss up between VTS or GTi, but then i looked into the APR on them and just though humm Nova GSi lol

Joe Richardson
16-09-09, 08:25 PM
but then i looked into the APR on them and just though humm Nova GSi lol

FTW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:cool:

Mike
16-09-09, 08:43 PM
I hate how you open the doors on the 106's aswelllol

What, with a handle lol lol

I prefer screwdriver or house brick to :)

Joe Richardson
16-09-09, 08:45 PM
What, with a handle lol lol

I prefer screwdriver or house brick to :)

no there on the side which is very gaylol

door handle's which are in normal places FTW !!!!!!!!!

Mike
16-09-09, 08:46 PM
no there on the side which is very gaylol

door handle's which are in normal places FTW !!!!!!!!!

Outside or inside, they aint really gonna be anywhere else are they :wtf: lol

Joe Richardson
16-09-09, 08:50 PM
Outside or inside, they aint really gonna be anywhere else are they :wtf: lol

outsidelol