Nova GSI Turbo Project

[turbo-boy]

hello there thinks is time for me to start my first project thread.my plans are to turbo charge my 1.6 8v engine (c16se) i want to do it nice and neat so it looks like its ment to be in my nova.i will find out how to put pics up and show you my nova.

[turbo-boy]

http://www.pngclub.com/forum/<a href=

[turbo-boy]

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[stevie-p]

http://www.pngclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=121587

[turbo-boy]

pics coming

[stevie-p]

copy just the image code and paste it in

[turbo-boy]

http://i631.photobucket.com/albums/uu35/nova_130bhp/bmwe30006.jpg


engine bay pic of how it is now
http://i631.photobucket.com/albums/uu35/nova_130bhp/bmwe30012.jpg

[turbo-boy]

here a picture was a built the block back up back up after getting new parts and getting it balancedhttp://i631.photobucket.com/albums/uu35/nova_130bhp/bmwe30019.jpghttp://i631.photobucket.com/albums/uu35/nova_130bhp/bmwe30017.jpg

[turbo-boy]

http://i631.photobucket.com/albums/uu35/nova_130bhp/bmwe30018.jpg

[novarally]

I've got a GSi with Courtenay Turbo conversion, so if you want any photos or information, I will do my best to help.

[turbo-boy]

dont mean to be rude but i have done a few of these.over in northern ireland there is quite a few 8v turbos about.but thanks for your adive. i hav it built and all and will try and get more pics on

[turbo-boy]

here is a pic when i put the cylinder head on to make a few measurments
http://i631.photobucket.com/albums/uu35/nova_130bhp/bmwe30020.jpg

[turbo-boy]

http://i631.photobucket.com/albums/uu35/nova_130bhp/bmwe30021-1.jpg

[turbo-boy]

http://i631.photobucket.com/albums/uu35/nova_130bhp/bmwe30022-1.jpg

[turbo-boy]

as you can tell from the pics i hav chossen throttle bodies,i have made a custum boost box for these so that they will be able to take boost,there is also an atlas custum fuel rail.i think this set up will work well when its all done and should be very throttle responsive.

[chrisnovaturbo]

what you doing about lowering the compression? i see you still got standard pistons? what manifold, turbo, management you using?

[chrisnovaturbo]

oh and im liking the inlet :thumb:

[turbo-boy]

full mega squirt managment,water injection to keep it safe,and going to use a charge cooler chris,usung a sabb turbo,

[turbo-boy]

http://i631.photobucket.com/albums/uu35/nova_130bhp/bmwe30029-1.jpg



here is a picture of the turbo



http://i631.photobucket.com/albums/uu35/nova_130bhp/bmwe30036.jpg

[walker-nova]

up the small blocks!! looking well lad

[auzzy-b]

That looks awesome!!! good stuff:)

[Rickyb]

im liking that alot

[stevie-p]

:cool: -that is all

[novaload1992]

nice gsi, are you from NI then?

[turbo-boy]

yes from co.antrim mate. more pics to come

[Plug]

looking spot on mate :thumb:

is that a screamer pipe i see there :d

[turbo-boy]

yes it is but its needs abit of modding when engine is in

[16v Nova Kev]

i will be watching this 1 what bhp are you going for

[turbo-boy]

not to sure yet but should see 200bhp with the injectors in it hopefully

[16v Nova Kev]

im thinking about building a 1600 turbo too so good to see another 1. how are you going to lower the comp

[turbo-boy]

2 head gaskets and standalone management so it wont pink and will be fueling right and timing will be adjusted for turbo

[16v Nova Kev]

to hell with the 2 gaskets im not into that but if it works then go for it im going to get my pistons skimmed and some of the head cut out and just go for 1 gasket

[turbo-boy]

i would rather keep my pistons as think as possible and run 2 gaskets,if the engine see to much booast the gaskets will blow as its the weakest link in the engine ,and it can save your pistons from melting

[16v Nova Kev]

aye a supose so dont know how thick the pistons are at the top but i have a spare 1 so im going to get 2mm taken of it and see whats left.

[turbo-boy]

the more thinkness you hav the better.i hav found when the 8v is turbo,b the exhaust valves dont last long giving sytoms of sticky valves and valve streach

[16v Nova Kev]

oh right. wonder what other valves would fit in and last longer

[turbo-boy]

i am just sticking with the standard ones.i think the prob was with other conversions i had them running a 5th injector on stanard management and this times im using water injection and proper management with wide band. few more pics here of the small block
http://i631.photobucket.com/albums/uu35/nova_130bhp/bmwe30034.jpg
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http://i631.photobucket.com/albums/uu35/nova_130bhp/bmwe30037.jpg
http://i631.photobucket.com/albums/uu35/nova_130bhp/bmwe30036.jpg
http://i631.photobucket.com/albums/uu35/nova_130bhp/bmwe30034.jpg

[16v Nova Kev]

looks ace where did you get your manifold from

[NitrousVaux]

After looking into a number of turbo applications the best option is to use a decompression plate. this eleiminates the two gasket scenario, provides a suitable base for the single gasket to bind to and basically means you have more meat on the head.

As I have tried to run large amounts of nitrous and turbo charging on my cars, the use of something like this decompression plate is a must.

The link http://www.ferriday.co.uk/ should give you more info. This means you can leave the pistons the same thickness but lower the cylinder pressure for turboing.

[turbo-boy]

i no when you mess with the gasket to mess with the sqewlch affect.means at a certain place in the bore when the piston is coming up on it compression stroke because spaceres have been used this messing with it if you no what i mean.i hav tryed spacer plates and didnt like them,each man to there own.

[krobinson]

Great work, thats going to be rapid and most importantly still retain great handleing!

Make sure you get a diff!

:)

[turbo-boy]

yea need to start saving looking at what one is best for me.got a f15 long ratio there today. here keith do you see your alloy rad did it fit in ok on standard rad postion?

[krobinson]

My radiator sits offset to the right to clear the turbo, and the intercooler is the full size of the front between the slam and crossmember.

If your at the PCC show tomorrow i'll show you.

[turbo-boy]

where is the pcc show and what time is it at

[fearless]

http://www.pngclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=126377

[fearless]

Not sure if None club members can view that post !!!!

[fearless]

Quote:
http://www.reallymeansounds.com/forum/attachments/news-events/23485d1246563991-pcc-show-2009-pcc09.jpg


From Belfast
Exit off M2 junction 5 then proceed along the A57 to towards Larne. At new roundabout turn left onto Station Road, and into Doagh. In Doagh, turn left on to the B59 to Ballymena. Rosspark Hotel is 8 miles along this road on the right hand side.
From Ballymena
Take the A36 to Larne, turn right on to Tully Road (B59) and Rosspark Hotel is 1.5 miles on the left hand side.
From Kells
Proceed through Connor and take the first road on the left after the speed limit sign and continue straight (Craigstown Road).
From Belfast International Airport
Take the A57 towards Larne. At new roundabout turn left onto Station Road, and into Doagh. In Doagh, turn left on to the B59 to Ballymena. Rosspark Hotel is 8 miles along this road on the right hand side.

[krobinson]

Cheers Dave!

[Adam]

The engine is certainly looking the part :cool:
From what ive heard though multiple throttle f/i engines are difficult to map correctly, might be better off with just a single big tb on the inlet of the plenum

[ben doodar]

some nice work there mate nice to see people going against the grain, looks pritty technicle, good luck with the project mate.

[brucer]

engine looks good, how much does it cost to turbo the 8v correctly?

the car staying the same as in the pics?

[turbo-boy]

yea i like to be different it will prob cost alot,it stands me 1500 and it not even of the engine stand yet lol.

[turbo-boy]

got a bit more down, rubbed down my gear box (which took ages) and give it a few coats of paint. i got my gear box mount powder coated so no need to paint. i also rubbed down my rocker cover and painted it white,when it was drying i got and idea of just splashing blue paint over it to see what it would look like.and the final thing i done was to make a brace to surport my turbo ,which bolts onto the back of the exhaust housing and to the block.i just wanted to add abit of strengh to this. you can see by the pictures of where a located this we brace.
http://i631.photobucket.com/albums/uu35/nova_130bhp/bmwe30041.jpg
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http://i631.photobucket.com/albums/uu35/nova_130bhp/DSC00065.jpg

[krobinson]

Great work, rocker cover looks very smart, fabrication on everything is awesome.

[turbo-boy]

thanks for comment keith, yea i like to do as much as possable.

[16v Nova Kev]

gearbox looks good painted bud. i cant decide weather to do it or just biy a let and be done with it.

[turbo-boy]

a let would be easier to do.i just love small block cause its light which makes the nova more fun to drive on cornering .

[sr jack]

correct a nova has a reputation for its handling so why spoil it. small block ftw

[turbo-boy]

thanks jack take it your a small block lover.here how can i change the title of my thread?

[16v Nova Kev]

aye you just need to pm someone in admin and ask nicely

[Nick J]

Looks a nice project this... must keep an eye on it! ;)

[Joe Richardson]

That looks well:thumb:

[turbo-boy]

thanks lads

[wilson_sri]

Loving your work on this so far mate :cool:
Going to keep my eye on this one, might give me a bit inspiration to get mines going again :roll:

[turbo-boy]

cheers wilson i had a look at your thread and it looks good

[Iain]

correct a nova has a reputation for its handling so why spoil it. small block ftw
They do?

Liking the rocker cover mate, very original :)

Edit: Liking the rest of the engine too :thumb:

[auzzy-b]

Rocker covers looking very retro!! looks great:thumb:

[gunny]

Nice project mate, seems like your doing things propperly, i would have to agree and gonewith a decompression plate myself though, but as you said each to their own, look forward to seeing this progress :thumb:

[turbo-boy]

cheers yea i was quite happy with the way the rocker cover turned out as i gave it no thought at all.At some stage in the the distant future i would like to do a high compression turbo to make good power and low boast levels.

[tahir868]

nice project mate
really keen on gsi's with redtops or turbos under the hood

[krobinson]

How you getting on now?

[Rickyb]

any updates?

[krobinson]

?

[Plug]

agreed we need pics :d

[krobinson]

Bumpy

[turbo-boy]

to be honest folks not much progress just a few we bits. the problem is that i sold my corsa turbo and bought a gte nove that i want to put a let in it.i got the gte 1 week ago hav loads of pics and have been busy busy with is alot of late nights last week.it needs some welding so thats what im at.i will start a new thread for the gte nova aka the santa pod wagon

[krobinson]

Looking forward to seeing the thread on the GTE!