SMOKING corsa 1600 turbo

[novajulz]

iv just got a corsa with a astra 1600 engine and a ford rs turbo turbo on it
anyway the exhaust smokes after every gear change it does not smoke on idle it has a slow stuttery acceleration so was wondering if anyone knows what it could be? i know my fuel pressure reg is broke and iv got no lambda sensor so im keeping fingers crossed its just that but im doubtful so any ideas welcome thanx:thumb:

[Will F]

you are even driving it with those problems??

Oh dear.

With a 'broke' regulator you are asking for problems, its probably running lean and melted ALL the pistons.

:thumb:

[Nobby]

aswell as a fuked turbo?

[calibra-keith]

scrap it lol


no really get rid and get a nova lol sounds like the corsa has no idea what car its ment to be god knows what else is wrong and been changed for random parts off other cars laying about, does it have 3 stud saxo wheels on 5 stud vectra parts on it as well :roll:

[novajulz]

ok thanx for the sarcy comments!!!!!! no matter what car i have u all take the piss??? well anyway NO im not driving it around and the pistons are fine iv been told the seals in my turbo are gone so getting it re conned the engine seems fine getting it checked monday tho just to make sure before i have the turbo done

[Rich]

Spluttering is gonna be caused by incorrect fuelling, cant possibly expect it to drive right with dodgey reg and no lambda. If its supposed to have a lambda it will never drive right without one.

[novajulz]

ok found out today its a power boost reg valve so not a standard reg iv ordered another one today and as for the lambda there is no loom for one so do i need one?????

[Geordie-Chris]

If it's running standard 1600 management it will be struggling to keep up with the engine when booting it. It won't be able to deliver the correct amount of fuel and cause serious problems. My mate had a 1600 8V turbo and it would stutter if you booted it, you had to gradually build up the power.

[novajulz]

s i need to either get it chipped or find out if it is chipped??

[Mike]

s i need to either get it chipped or find out if it is chipped??

No, ideally you need aftermarket management.

[Mike]

scrap it lol


no really get rid and get a nova lol sounds like the corsa has no idea what car its ment to be god knows what else is wrong and been changed for random parts off other cars laying about, does it have 3 stud saxo wheels on 5 stud vectra parts on it as well :roll:

Jog on prink.

[novajulz]

thanx mike but not sure wot u mean by aftermarket ???

[Mike]

thanx mike but not sure wot u mean by aftermarket ???

As in not standard. Not made by Vauxhall in this example.

[novajulz]

ok lol any idea wot make n where do u think i can get one from? thanx

[calibra-keith]

Jog on prink.

sorry mike didn't know i had to lick every ones backside but im only saying what a lot are thinking, the lad doesn't even know what aftermarket means and from sounds of it been sold a misfit bake.

if this was me and someone gave me advice of get rid and get something he could manage/understand and sort out easily if anything goes wrong then i would thank them lol

[let_nova]

theres a few 1.6 turbos running standard managment. get a decent FPR and see gow you go.

[Sloth]

indeed it sounds like its been bodged a bit, and the lad sounds a bit "noobish", no disrespect. you need to sort your fueling mate, as this is causing the stutter, and it will melt pistons if its lean, or burn the valves if its rich. what do your sparkplugs look like when you remove them? what colour? oily? plugs are an excellent indicator of an engines issues. also what make etc?

[novajulz]

ok thanx guys will let u know how it goes.

[novajulz]

Oh Keith N Sloth For Your Information Im A Woman Not A Lad Thank U!!!!!!!!!!!!

[let_nova]

even i knew that.

[calibra-keith]

male or female makes no difference, it never said on post that your female so how would i know unless i was one of the lot that try hit on every females that come on or stalk your old posts ?

also im sure 'txt tlk' was a PNG hate ?

[novajulz]

Wot u mean by that let a nice way or bad way?

[let_nova]

FFS calibra.you wake up with an ugly bird this morning?? julz is a bit of a give away. and not everyone knows no text talk so a little advice is good. not trying to jump in there hole if they do bad

if you dont have anything constructive,usefull to post then FFS dont bloody post.

[let_nova]

Wot u mean by that let a nice way or bad way?

nice way.

novajulz is a give away.:thumb: :cool:

[calibra-keith]

whats name got to do with it ? mines calibra but it dont mean i own one

[novajulz]

its not a hate talk just because im female doesnt mean in complete stupid i think for a female i know a lot about cars. n this engine im workin on is new to me ok.

[let_nova]

FFS!!! your names keith though?? really get a life.

[novajulz]

Thanx let.

[Sloth]

back at the thread, what turbo and injectors you using? model no for the turbo and colour for the injectors please.

[let_nova]

nova julz. tip your not allowed any text type on here.

just so you know.

[novajulz]

ok soz let. right sloth its a ford rs turbo n really not sure wot model no is il have to have a look n as for the injectors not sure either have to check in morning.

[let_nova]

your still text typing lol

they will ban you!

[let_nova]

ok sorry let. right sloth its a ford rs turbo and really not sure what model number is il have to have a look and as for the injectors not sure either have to check in morning.

.. corrected:thumb:

[novajulz]

ok let i got you now mate.

[let_nova]

spot on lol

[calibra-keith]

ok sorry to much sun today lol but my 1st post i still stick by personally but if i can help then i will but there is no mention of why there is a rs turbo on a 1600 astra engine in a corsa ? just seems a bit odd if we are honest. i cant see any benifits of this other than been more work to sort it than its worth,

as for text typing i was not jumping on her was just saying its a PNG hate but im not to bothered as long as i can read what it says lol but there are people on here who but rape people on there 1st post.

and sorry let i did not know you was on the pull carry on :thumb:

[let_nova]

on the pull WTF im trying to help. the RS turbo is known to be used a lot when converting the 1.6 to turbo.

you realy should gen up more.

[novajulz]

thats ok keith well i dont know if it is an ford rs turbo on it thats what the boy said to me so i will have to look at the model number and trace it to see what make it is.

[Sloth]

its the usual case of a little knowledge is bad, no knowledge is worse.

right, diagnostics.

does it smoke on the overrun? i.e when you boot it and let off the throttle?
or is it only under load? or at idle? warm or cold?

[novajulz]

when i boot it and let off the throttle n when i change gear. driving the car its like driving a normal 1.6

[Stuart]

sounds like an epicly shagged turbo. OR you are really unlucky and have screwed rings and stem seals too.

[Sloth]

hence why i asked when it smokes.

[novajulz]

oh ok when after taken it for a drive i looked under bonnet the turbo was smoking with clear smok and very HOT.

[let_nova]

under the bonnet??? was the road wet during the run?? turbos do get very hot...

[calibra-keith]

is there any play in turbo or have you got or able to do compression test ?

[Sloth]

id say turbo myself, its prob a t2. if it continues your looking at rings etc.

[novajulz]

The turbo was bloody hot couldnt touch it but i did n burnt my finger lol. it was on a nice day LET.

[Sloth]

a turbo is filled with hot exhaust gases, hence the heat. its designed that way. like all of your engine it gets hot.

[novajulz]

how much for a second hand turbo guys?

[let_nova]

ebay is your friend.

turbos run red hot. sometimes nearly white

[novajulz]

ok sloth so have the seal ring gone then?

[let_nova]

a hot turbo....
you wouldnt touch this would you...
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u315/goffefyrn/22042007146.jpg

[novajulz]

ok cool thanks so its the seals then is it?

[novajulz]

bloody hell let no way never seen that before lol thats HOT HOT.

[Stuart]

not 100%. given that the conversion would have used a 2nd hand turbo, that is hugely likely to be the problem, especially with the fuelling probably all to pot meaning it would have run far far far far far hotter than it should have.

[calibra-keith]

how much for a second hand turbo guys?

iv got a t15 with mani, used on vw's, vauxhall and fords petrols and diesels many people use these rather than the t2 on 1400/1600 depending on set up and what you trying to achieve.

[novajulz]

im trying to achieve my car being fixed!!! was just wondering if it would be cheaper for me to get another turbo instead of getting mine refurbed?? as for the set up im not the first to have this engine so whats all the fuss about???

[Stuart]

if the fuelling is wrong, then it could have contributed to killing the turbo quicker than it should have!

imho I'd spend the extra and get the current one refurbed as atleast you KNOW its going to be as good as possible whereas a 2nd hand one will just be another unknown and could be equally as funked

[novajulz]

ok will get the turbo refurbed if the engine is ok.

[LiquidPug]

Would it not be a good ides to get the engine checked over first? If the pistons/rings/valve seals are fubar, what's the point of shelling out good money to refurb the turbo - you need to know when to cut your losses. ;)

[novajulz]

yeah true will get the engine checked out one day this week ,hopefully its ok fingers crossed then if its ok il get the turbo done.