View Full Version : who's a spray painter by trade??
thegingerwhinger
25-07-09, 06:39 PM
just a quick question to anyone who is in the bodyshop, spraying game, i just painted my nova in nordic blue in cellulose paint but can i polish it up and what with?? ive been told to use g3 or the likes and then a good wax polish. anybody any ideas and also if i cant, can i paint 2k paint on top after ive keyed it or will i have to barcoat it?? any help is appreciated.... cheers
saloonwoody
25-07-09, 09:08 PM
g3 it but use the fine one or even regular tcut :) you can paint over it with 2k if you dont get the shine your after ;)
JordyzNova
25-07-09, 09:31 PM
my nova is nordic blue :thumb: theres a body shop next door to my work he sed use g3
g3 and g10 to finish will work fine
thegingerwhinger
25-07-09, 11:56 PM
thanks lads very much appreciated. everyone up here is either 2k or water based and when i ask for celly they cant believe it. anyways its painted now. cheers:thumb:
Thats cause celly paint is sh*te.
Water based is the way to, only worth bothering if you can paint though.
2pac all the way, much nicer to work with.
Seen much better finish's coming from water based imo
Finish should be the same, as both use 2pac lacuer.
thegingerwhinger
26-07-09, 03:12 PM
well im a mechanic to trade but all the painters near me are ****s or you cant get a hold of them so **** it ill do it myself. 2k is good, but is a bit too plastic looking for me. and to use water based stuff its the cost of getting ovens etc to dry it, and i believe they use different guns. will try get pics up of my work lol.....
16v Nova Kev
26-07-09, 04:23 PM
well im a mechanic to trade but all the painters near me are ****s or you cant get a hold of them so **** it ill do it myself. 2k is good, but is a bit too plastic looking for me. and to use water based stuff its the cost of getting ovens etc to dry it, and i believe they use different guns. will try get pics up of my work lol.....
we paint with water based every day and dont use ovens mate. once we move to a bigger unit we will use one but for doing pannels or bumpers we dry the paint off with a heat gun :thumb:
What about a whole car tho?^
Oven/booths are awesome for cleaness and speed.
16v Nova Kev
26-07-09, 04:41 PM
What about a whole car tho?^
Oven/booths are awesome for cleaness and speed.
agreed but the unit we are in just now is a bit small. we do have an oven but cant fit it. we just keep the booth really clean and wet the floor for the moment:thumb:
thegingerwhinger
27-07-09, 06:43 PM
we paint with water based every day and dont use ovens mate. once we move to a bigger unit we will use one but for doing pannels or bumpers we dry the paint off with a heat gun :thumb:
thats because your from the weige mate!!! all cowboys through there!!!!! JOKE
Yeeeeeee Ha!
Bodge it and scarper FTW yeeeeeeeee ha! lol
16v Nova Kev
27-07-09, 08:58 PM
thats because your from the weige mate!!! all cowboys through there!!!!! JOKE
lol at the cowboy jokes you can come down and see our work anytime :p
let_nova
27-07-09, 09:02 PM
rattle can FTW
LEWI007
27-07-09, 09:46 PM
rattle can FTW
Indeed :thumb:
I painted a vw polo with rattle cans, and lacquered it aswell.
then just flattened the whole car down with some 2000 and polished it.
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh57/LEWI007/Martins%20polo/IMAGE_827.jpg
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh57/LEWI007/Martins%20polo/HPIM1042.jpg
Thats how a real paintjob is done lads lol
Indeed :thumb:
I painted a vw polo with rattle cans, and lacquered it aswell.
then just flattened the whole car down with some 2000 and polished it.
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh57/LEWI007/Martins%20polo/IMAGE_827.jpg
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh57/LEWI007/Martins%20polo/HPIM1042.jpg
Thats how a real paintjob is done lads lol
Why???
LEWI007
27-07-09, 10:02 PM
Because. the 2 of us are only 17, make VERY little money, have alot of time, and i can paint.
it only cost us about 50 quid or something to spray that car. and its a nice job as you can see. was hard work wet sanding the thing down though.
and the 50 quid went into buying rattle cans.
thegingerwhinger
27-07-09, 10:36 PM
Indeed :thumb:
I painted a vw polo with rattle cans, and lacquered it aswell.
then just flattened the whole car down with some 2000 and polished it.
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh57/LEWI007/Martins%20polo/IMAGE_827.jpg
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh57/LEWI007/Martins%20polo/HPIM1042.jpg
Thats how a real paintjob is done lads lol
no way!!! thats a pro job.:tard:
thegingerwhinger
27-07-09, 10:37 PM
lol at the cowboy jokes you can come down and see our work anytime :p
i must do mate!!!
that looks quality from cans, would like to see the quality in the flesh though. as for the celleose why not scotch it and 2k lacquer it????????
Can spray through cans whatever the hell you like if you sand it back and polish it lol Started doing my bonnet with 280 wet and dry it was that bad :p
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh57/LEWI007/Martins%20polo/HPIM1042.jpg
Thats how a real paintjob is done lads lol[/quote]
easy K-Reg u need 2 empty ur inbox M8
that looks quality from cans, would like to see the quality in the flesh though. as for the celleose why not scotch it and 2k lacquer it????????
Alot of the time celly with reactivate when you spray 2pac over the top cause of the thinners in it, causing it to crack and bubble or even just not set.
LEWI007
28-07-09, 08:56 AM
MK99 - It was bad because you used 280, thats WAY too rough it will scratch it, you need 1200 or 2000 wet and dry.
G-Nova ive emptied my box now.
MK99 - It was bad because you used 280, thats WAY too rough it will scratch it, you need 1200 or 2000 wet and dry.
G-Nova ive emptied my box now.
It wasn't finished with 280, and yes 280 scratched it, it scratched the sandpaper like dry as hell crap off the top, then it was taken down with 400 wet, 800 wet, 1000 wet, 1200 wet, 1500 wet and then finally 2000 wet and then a quick layer of SRP to make sure it will shine when it's machine polished properly...
16v Nova Kev
28-07-09, 08:12 PM
rattle can wings bonnet and boot
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg8/16vnovakev/SDC11500.jpg
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg8/16vnovakev/SDC11499.jpg:thumb:
rattle can wings bonnet and boot
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg8/16vnovakev/SDC11500.jpg
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg8/16vnovakev/SDC11499.jpg:thumb:
not bad finish for blackboard paint!
It wasn't finished with 280, and yes 280 scratched it, it scratched the sandpaper like dry as hell crap off the top, then it was taken down with 400 wet, 800 wet, 1000 wet, 1200 wet, 1500 wet and then finally 2000 wet and then a quick layer of SRP to make sure it will shine when it's machine polished properly...
What the funk? You couldnt flat paint to be polished with anything lower than 1200. For one anything under 1000grit isnt finishing paper.
If seen stuff painted by brush thats been flatted with 800. But that was brush painted!
Srp wont do bugger all either. You need a proper cutting compound.
thegingerwhinger
28-07-09, 09:55 PM
rattle can wings bonnet and boot
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg8/16vnovakev/SDC11500.jpg
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg8/16vnovakev/SDC11499.jpg:thumb:
who the **** made the exhaust??? lol
16v Nova Kev
28-07-09, 09:57 PM
erm piper
let_nova
28-07-09, 09:58 PM
:thumb:
erm piper
lol good reply:thumb:
What the funk? You couldnt flat paint to be polished with anything lower than 1200. For one anything under 1000grit isnt finishing paper.
If seen stuff painted by brush thats been flatted with 800. But that was brush painted!
Srp wont do bugger all either. You need a proper cutting compound.
Guess I should have taken photo's of it lol it was started with something as harsh as 280 as it literally felt like sand paper, a couple of quick passes with that took most of the seriously 'grainy' bits off the top and then it was slowly taken down with higher and higher grades until you could actually flat it off with 1200+ Would have been there for weeks starting with 1200... srp won't 'do' the job no, but it does give some sort of indication of whether or not it's ready for a mop.
We're not talking perfecting an almost glossy out of the gun finish here, that was my point. This would have been smoother brushed on probably. This was paint dryer than the hottest point in the sahara.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v471/MK999/Nova/DSC00142.jpg
That's what I started with.
thegingerwhinger
28-07-09, 10:26 PM
erm piper
is it not meant to sit a bit better than that then?? take it the weans cut the bumper with scissors??? :thumb: :p
16v Nova Kev
28-07-09, 10:34 PM
aye of course it is when i took the pic it never even had a clamp on it. as for the bumper it was like that when i got it. come to think of it you never post pics of your novas
Guess I should have taken photo's of it lol it was started with something as harsh as 280 as it literally felt like sand paper, a couple of quick passes with that took most of the seriously 'grainy' bits off the top and then it was slowly taken down with higher and higher grades until you could actually flat it off with 1200+ Would have been there for weeks starting with 1200... srp won't 'do' the job no, but it does give some sort of indication of whether or not it's ready for a mop.
We're not talking perfecting an almost glossy out of the gun finish here, that was my point. This would have been smoother brushed on probably. This was paint dryer than the hottest point in the sahara.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v471/MK999/Nova/DSC00142.jpg
That's what I started with.
There's no enough paint on that. Thats the prob.
280 would sand off any lacquer that you put on, if no lacquer thats one prob and 280 would sand the base coat off, 1000grit will take lacquer off, well 1500 will if used wrong.
You can sand the dryest of paint finish off and that inc big runs off with 1200 and make it flat as glass. i've seen 800 try to be poilshed back up.. It was bad and needed to be repainted.
in the most part it's started to gloss up with a quick coat of SRP, I'll let you know how it comes out after mopping up, but it seems fine to me. Dunno where we're missing each other here but even the 1200 wet and dry I was using would take a good 10-20seconds of hard sanding to take the base coat off an edge. I'm assuming you do all your flatting by hand?
Cant beileve you used anything as ruff on it as that, check again. Will be intrested to see the pics.
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