wiring

[shed-on-wheels]

i am doing a conversion on a nova carb which im putting in a nova gte engine could any one tell me how to wire this in and maybe make me a diagram please thank you :)

[mowgli]

what model is the original car? and engine size???
both are rather important.

[G-nova]

hi i also have just taken out a 1.2 carb merit mk1 engine out and put in a Nova GSI lump in and my m8 who was gonna wire it in has gone to prison unfortuntly so im stuck with a engine that wont start lol would appreciate help very much

[shed-on-wheels]

its a mk1 nova merit 1.2 carb and im puting i a nova gte engine but i imagine gte/gsi wiring is the same

[mowgli]

on top of the exact original model, i need to know the spec of the new engine. a gte has a e16se, with a bosch ecu. a gsi can have a c16se with a bosch or a siemens ecu. get me the info & i should have you a diagram quite quickly.

basically you need to carefully strip your old loom from your old engine & label all the connectors. things like starter, alternator, water temp, oil pressure etc will get carrier over to the new engine. there will only be 5 or 6 wires that need adding. the efi motor has its own loom which just needs wiring in, & it is easy to fit. what you need when getting your donor engine is as much wiring from the engine bay as possible & all the ancillaries, so it is a straight swap.

[shed-on-wheels]

well i have the engine loom ecu afm ect but nothing else from the other car

[mowgli]

the only wires that are different for a bosch ecu engine are as follows

you need to connect the:

big red wire to the back of the starter.
blue/red to the efi pump under the back of the fuel tank
black wire to the old coil feed wire
brown/white to the ecu light (i've used the choke light on the dash before)

[G-nova]

http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs199.snc1/6760_1189115730142_1295804377_30537850_2501152_n.j pg (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=30537820&id=1295804377)
this is my GSI lump its got loads of wires on it and i dont think anything is missing i have it sat in bay on mounts

http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs179.snc1/6760_1189137250680_1295804377_30537930_2745548_n.j pg (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=30537931&id=1295804377)

i can take more pics in the morn if this will make it easier for both of us i also know i need an out of tank fuel pump, regulator, and something else lol prefible from a calibra is this true m8

[G-nova]

lol this is gonna be fun m8 u sure ur up 2 job trying to teach us learners lol

[mowgli]

well i have the engine loom ecu afm ect but nothing else from the other car

you need the coil & the 2 control boxes. the ecu is on top of the afm, & the ignition module is screwed to the bulkhead. there is also a fuel pump relay next to it.

then you need to sort out the fuel tank. an efi one is the best way to go or every time you go round a rh bend, it will suck air.
the gte/gsi pump & tank is the best one to fit.

then you need to sort out the fuel lines. you can use hard nylon or copper ones.

[mowgli]

lol this is gonna be fun m8 u sure ur up 2 job trying to teach us learners lol

i have stuck my e16se in 5 different cars over the years, including a mk1 astra. I am a bit rusty, but I'll give it my best. and I have a mk1 1.0 with the e16se fitted, sat on my drive, so if in an emergency, i'll take photos

[G-nova]

hi mate i have a siemens steuergerat - EZ PLUS ECU and the loom is still attached to engine i got it like that with the ecu sat on top so hopefully it will be easier ?

[shed-on-wheels]

thanks fella also what control boxes are they then

[G-nova]

lol good stuff much appricated m8 many thanks for wantin to help us out

[mowgli]

i'll get some photos up of mine tomorrow as a guide for you.

[napalm_27]

http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs199.snc1/6760_1189115730142_1295804377_30537850_2501152_n.j pg (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=30537820&id=1295804377)
this is my GSI lump its got loads of wires on it and i dont think anything is missing i have it sat in bay on mounts

http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs179.snc1/6760_1189137250680_1295804377_30537930_2745548_n.j pg (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=30537931&id=1295804377)

i can take more pics in the morn if this will make it easier for both of us i also know i need an out of tank fuel pump, regulator, and something else lol prefible from a calibra is this true m8

thats a e16se as the c16se is a coil pack iirc ( please correct if wrong)

[mowgli]

thats a e16se as the c16se is a coil pack iirc ( please correct if wrong)

the c16se can be either bosch or coilpack, but the c16se has the square cam cover......

[G-nova]

thats a e16se as the c16se is a coil pack iirc ( please correct if wrong)

not to sure tbh i have the ignition coil from GSI lump is their any thing else that i might beable to tell by?

[G-nova]

forget what i said their i gettin posts mixed up lol lol

[shed-on-wheels]

the code on the back of the block fella and thanks mowgli your a star

[G-nova]

mine is the c16se

[mowgli]

here is my engine bay with a e16se.

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q119/mowglinova/007-1.jpg?t=1248457832

ignition module:
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q119/mowglinova/004.jpg?t=1248457941

ecu/afm:
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q119/mowglinova/003-1.jpg?t=1248457998

fuel pump relay:
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q119/mowglinova/005-1.jpg?t=1248458050

diagnostic plug/ RON plug (so you can use unleaded or super u/l)
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q119/mowglinova/006-1.jpg?t=1248458155

[G-nova]

i will post my pics of these things in morning mate thanks

[G-nova]

i have the pics u asked for mate r these ok?

http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs140.snc1/6000_1195590011995_1295804377_30563030_4310126_n.j pg (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=30562983&id=1295804377)


http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs140.snc1/6000_1195590051996_1295804377_30563031_5750888_n.j pg (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=30562983&id=1295804377)


http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs140.snc1/6000_1195590091997_1295804377_30563032_8036168_n.j pg (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=30562983&id=1295804377)


http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs160.snc1/6000_1195620532758_1295804377_30563110_2277049_n.j pg (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=30560853&id=1295804377)

[mikey nova]

hi im also undergoing a similar project only main diffrence is that my cars a 1.4 spi any chane of being able to do me a wiring diagram as im a bit cluelees with wiring lol also would my tank and fuel pump be ok its got an intank pump but iv been told i can use a pump out of a mk3 astra to provide the right fueling???????????