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John
20-07-09, 08:26 PM
I'm after an alarm for the 5 door. ATM i don't have c/l an can't be faffed with retro fitting it if i'm honest/ don't need to. I just want something to secure the car with, that's thatcham approved if poss, and won't break the bank!
Not bothered if i have to fit it myself either.

What have people got/can recommend? any links? Ta all! :) :thumb:
AlexW
20-07-09, 08:34 PM
Most alarms dont need the central locking stuff so its not a problem. As long as the pin switchs work and you fit the sensors.

Id always say a gemini kit as its what i fit at work and what ive had fitted to my nova for ages without problem. Depends what you want it to do lol
Spudly
20-07-09, 08:37 PM
Go for a toad dude, ive had a few ai606's and theyre spot on, also had a lower model a101cl and it did exactly what it said on the tin and will be easier to fit yourself as its not a cat1 so all the wires are colour coded lol
John
20-07-09, 08:37 PM
Most alarms dont need the central locking stuff so its not a problem. As long as the pin switchs work and you fit the sensors.

Id always say a gemini kit as its what i fit at work and what ive had fitted to my nova for ages without problem. Depends what you want it to do lol

Cool, where from fella? Can you fit them yourself? It's a nova, don't want it to do much apart from it not start the car, when some noob tries to steal it! Oh and have a siren and indicator flash!
John
20-07-09, 08:38 PM
Go for a toad dude, ive had a few ai606's and theyre spot on, also had a lower model a101cl and it did exactly what it said on the tin and will be easier to fit yourself as its not a cat1 so all the wires are colour coded lol

So it's a cat2? Can cat 1's not be fitted yourself then? could be usefull having a cat1 if i ever fit an xe.
Adam
20-07-09, 08:45 PM
You can fit them yourself if you can find a wiring diagram (obviously they are mega hard to come by)
Jack
20-07-09, 11:41 PM
will be easier to fit yourself as its not a cat1 so all the wires are colour coded lol
Thatcham categories have nothing whatsoever to do with wire colour, its about the functionality of the immobilization device - ranging from Cat 1 to Cat 5.

ALL immobilizing security devices fall into one of the above categories (so saying your alarm/immob isn't cat 1 isn't technically correct), its whether or not the device is thatcham approved that makes it worthwhile - and to be approved, it has to be installed by a professional thatcham installer.
brainsnova
21-07-09, 12:49 AM
a sterling pro is a cheaper aquivalent of a toad ai606 but only has 1 imob circuit.
skidmarkz
21-07-09, 08:27 AM
a sterling pro is a cheaper aquivalent of a toad ai606 but only has 1 imob circuit.

or the sterling ONE, has 2, i has it in me nova wicked bit of kit, CAT1 Thancham approved and cheap as chips :)
draper
21-07-09, 08:40 AM
You can fit them yourself if you can find a wiring diagram (obviously they are mega hard to come by)


no there not ;)

personnally id go for the toad ai606, really good alarm at a good price, ebay has new sealed units for about £100 john

could see if we could get discount if we buy 2 ? or a possible group buy ?
MK999
21-07-09, 10:03 AM
Group buy on alarm fittings sounds a good idea to me, must be a few people on here that are thinking about it but don't wanna jump in with the cash?
Matt
21-07-09, 02:25 PM
You might find a few useful recommendations here (http://www.pngclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=124793).
AlexW
21-07-09, 05:25 PM
Group buy on alarm fittings sounds a good idea to me, must be a few people on here that are thinking about it but don't wanna jump in with the cash?

But like said (which i missed lol), no insurance point without being installed by a pro, AND everyone would have to agree with what alarm.
MK999
21-07-09, 05:29 PM
Not if you agreed with whatever company it was that it was anything from their range of alarms, still guaranteed business for them, cheaper prices for us, and a company with a couple of diff stores/mobile fitters could do a couple of group fittings dotted around the country.
AlexW
21-07-09, 05:46 PM
True but nearly all insurance companys will say because its not installed by a pro its useless. Could be installed by a monkey lol.

Its ok for putting off theifs and stoping people from stealing the car.
CoolTiger
21-07-09, 06:16 PM
True but nearly all insurance companys will say because its not installed by a pro its useless. Could be installed by a monkey lol.

Its ok for putting off theifs and stoping people from stealing the car.

guessing insurers dont reconise your work :P
MK999
21-07-09, 06:45 PM
True but nearly all insurance companys will say because its not installed by a pro its useless. Could be installed by a monkey lol.

Its ok for putting off theifs and stoping people from stealing the car.

Why would it not be installed by a pro? I never said anything about installing them yourself :confused:
draper
21-07-09, 08:23 PM
But like said (which i missed lol), no insurance point without being installed by a pro, AND everyone would have to agree with what alarm.

but you can take them to a registered installer and have them check the wiring etc and sign the cert off - i have with the ones ive fitted
John
22-07-09, 08:20 PM
thanks all! Guess i'll just get on the bay and get hunting!
John
22-07-09, 08:23 PM
Something like thsi the yeah?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TOAD-Ai606-THATCHAM-CAT-1-CAR-ALARM-NEW-BOXED-UK-DEALER_W0QQitemZ310153874765QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_ CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item48369c8d4d&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C72%3A1689%7C 293%3A1%7C294%3A50
draper
22-07-09, 08:27 PM
Something like thsi the yeah?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TOAD-Ai606-THATCHAM-CAT-1-CAR-ALARM-NEW-BOXED-UK-DEALER_W0QQitemZ310153874765QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_ CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item48369c8d4d&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C72%3A1689%7C 293%3A1%7C294%3A50


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MK999
22-07-09, 09:45 PM
Funk me that's cheap lol Tempted by a DIY job now... If I can wire up an engine can I do an alarm? lol
skidmarkz
22-07-09, 10:19 PM
Funk me that's cheap lol Tempted by a DIY job now... If I can wire up an engine can I do an alarm? lol

alarm is piss easy, Draper is correct i installed all of mine then drove to a Toad dealer they checked and signed it off :)
brainsnova
22-07-09, 10:28 PM
theres plenty wires but its cause it has wires for all types of central locking and positive and negative pulses for indicators and door switches.its pretty straight forward and gets easier as you go. wiring here :thumb: http://clubgtinorfolk.com/downloads/alarm-manuals/toad/ai606/Ai606_Install.pdf
MK999
22-07-09, 10:43 PM
Top job! Do they usually charge much for signing off an install or is it a quick poke of the door to see if it goes off? lol

Edit: Sorry John kinda hijacked your thread lol But hopefully this is all helping you too! :)