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brake-dust
17-07-09, 04:49 PM
going to turbo my 8v, now i have a suitable turbo and various other peices to go with it, now what i need to know is how to get a oil feed and were to put the return pipe, also had absolutly nothing to do with turbo's before so does any one have a basic diagram of how to plumb one in a were the nessasery pipes go? would be a big help :thumb: got a ruff idea but looking at some thing would just set my mind to rest.

Cheers :)

Southie
17-07-09, 04:54 PM
Have a read through this project. ;)

CLICKY (http://www.pngclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=102130&highlight=nova+turbo)

brake-dust
17-07-09, 05:04 PM
top man, forgot about that project, did do a search but the info is a bit varied and spaced out, as much info as possible please fella's ;)

Mike
17-07-09, 05:29 PM
Oil feed can be taken direct off the pump (despiste many saying drill & tap the block - there really is no need for this)

Oil return goes straight to sump.

I used Ford parts for all of mine, straight off the shelf gear, pish easy to get.

brake-dust
17-07-09, 05:40 PM
any idea were the oil pump is on a 2ltr 8v? didnt think they had one?

corsa-xe1
17-07-09, 07:01 PM
lol your a dumb-****!

how can you build a turbo engine when you dont even think your engine has a oil pump!!!

go and learn what a turbo is first, and i bet your not going to insure your car as a turbo!!!

brake-dust
18-07-09, 02:39 AM
Thought they worked on a vacume system like out boards, only 4 stroke i have worked on is a 225 honda engine which dont have oil pumps other than that its 2 strokes for me, found the oil pump last night any how, the question was not a stupid one as this is a topic that has been coming up for a while but i couldnt find the answears then some obnoxious nob comes along who cant be trusted to sell on here and tells me im a dumb **** which helps no one any way, if youve nothing usefull to say, do one

Mike
18-07-09, 09:07 AM
any idea were the oil pump is on a 2ltr 8v? didnt think they had one?

LOL

Yes they do have an oil pump, as the engine sits in the bay, the oil pump & drive gear for it is situated L/H side below cambelt cover towards sump of engine.

brake-dust
21-09-09, 05:00 PM
making a start on this next week, have tyhe turbo etc, will order a manifold and intercooler etc, watch this space!

djbrowney
21-09-09, 05:05 PM
where are you going to order a manifold from ???

Mike
21-09-09, 05:05 PM
making a start on this next week, have tyhe turbo etc, will order a manifold and intercooler etc, watch this space!

LOL where you planning on ordering a manifold from lol no one makes them off the shelf :thumb: lol

brake-dust
21-09-09, 05:09 PM
there on ebay mate, have been for a long time

brake-dust
21-09-09, 05:10 PM
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350239018797&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Mike
21-09-09, 05:47 PM
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350239018797&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

News to me lol

brake-dust
21-09-09, 05:49 PM
do them for red tops aswell, would have been nice to get the factory 8v turbo set up but there obviouisly rare

Mike
21-09-09, 05:59 PM
^ lol you on crack? Factory 8v Turbo? Not in the UK chap, nor Europe im afraid.

USA only, but not even on a GM of this era lol lol

brake-dust
21-09-09, 06:03 PM
on about the 20get motors, the turbo and all the other bits transfer onto the 8v as its the same motor

Mike
21-09-09, 06:09 PM
on about the 20get motors, the turbo and all the other bits transfer onto the 8v as its the same motor

Yea i know what your on about, an i know full well all the parts fit, BUT factory GM it aint. Pontiac yes, GM as we know it, no.

Sloth
21-09-09, 06:15 PM
it is gm as its based on a mk2 cavalier, the pontic with the get that is. the site you need is www.vaux-extreme.com

brake-dust
22-09-09, 10:46 AM
thought they were gm, fitting a turbo to a motor isnt hard, and with these manifolds thre's no reason why any body else cant do one, im guessing with a turbo on a 2.0 sri130 8v with twin 40's should reach upto 170bhp??

General Baxter
22-09-09, 11:10 AM
im guessing with a turbo on a 2.0 sri130 8v with twin 40's should reach upto 170bhp??
lol im so sorry lol

brake-dust
22-09-09, 11:14 AM
whats wrong with that then?

General Baxter
22-09-09, 11:15 AM
normal twin 40's wont work

brake-dust
22-09-09, 11:16 AM
normal twin 40's wont work

how come? bought a set up off a sri130 motor thats working very well

General Baxter
22-09-09, 11:17 AM
how come? bought a set up off a sri130 motor thats working very well

yeah with out the turbo they will work fine and dandy

brake-dust
22-09-09, 11:19 AM
ahh i see, sorry generally speaking car engines arnt my thing, only ever worked with bike engines, what carbs etc would you recomend?

General Baxter
22-09-09, 11:20 AM
id just go to injection lol

Stuart
22-09-09, 11:20 AM
many bike carbs take boost with great ease then?

brake-dust
22-09-09, 11:31 AM
r1 carbs are good and fairly easy to work with, but setting them up on a car i wouldnt know were to start

General Baxter
22-09-09, 11:32 AM
any N/A CARB WILL NOT work

Jack
22-09-09, 11:37 AM
Yea i know what your on about, an i know full well all the parts fit, BUT factory GM it aint. Pontiac yes, GM as we know it, no.
Hmm, mike. GM = Pontiac (RIP) of course... thats like saying the Saab B308i isn't a GM engine lol

Nick
22-09-09, 02:38 PM
normal twin 40's wont work

Nope they wont, a Turbo gasket/seal kit is avilable to convert DHLA 40's so that they will take Boost pressure.

http://www.dellorto.co.uk/merchandise/products_details.asp?PartNo=DHLAturbokit&CategoryID=1&PartsectionID=1

Alternativly, get hold of some DHLA-M's (?) Which are Dellorto Turbo carbs as found on the Lotus Esprit Turbo 1 .

http://www.dellorto.co.uk/merchandise/large_image.asp?PartID=6514

As they are 45's They will also be better suited to your 2.0 8v, Allthough Dellorto Make DHLA-L's which are alfa Turbo carbs which are 40's .

All DHLA Variants should work fine.

brake-dust
22-09-09, 03:14 PM
thanks for the info, as i have the 40's lined up with the appropriate ignition etc for my engine i will go with these and uprate, assuming that they will still be a improvement from the standard set up?

Nick
22-09-09, 03:24 PM
Erm, you have to machine the bodies to accept certain parts of the Upgrade kit, it doesn't look like a Haynes 1 Spanner job !

Then you have the problem of using a stand alone Ignition managment and having the carbs setup to work with it.

It's not straight-forwards. Probably best sticking to Injection.

burgo
22-09-09, 03:35 PM
any N/A CARB WILL NOT workyou fail!! i know two ways of turbo'ing with n/a carbs that will work !!!

Nick
22-09-09, 03:41 PM
I know 1 :)

Sloth
22-09-09, 05:11 PM
i know one. feed boost into the carb chambers. iirc..........

dude, if your serious pm me. and an seh is more work to turbo than a c20ne.

AlexW
22-09-09, 06:16 PM
If hes already got the SEH then sticking with that is a good idea lol

What amazes me about this thread, hes trying to turbo a twin 40'ed engine and has no idea wtf hes doing?!

Nova_Tek
22-09-09, 06:30 PM
This thread is fun :d

Ich bin subscribed.

Yeh an NE is easier to turbo but seeing as he has the SEH may aswell use it. And it'll be a learning curve too ;)

General Baxter
22-09-09, 09:25 PM
you fail!! i know two ways of turbo'ing with n/a carbs that will work !!!

yeah completly inclose the carb in boost lol

burgo
22-09-09, 09:26 PM
yeah completly inclose the carb in boost lolnot just that ;)