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Lauren
29-06-09, 09:03 AM
Ok, I've found an engine, 20,000 miles for 300 squids, only thing is I'm a bit confused about this corsa c or corsa b business, does anyone know what the difference is? And if it matters when it comes to changing the engine? And how I find out what mine is?
I have tried googling but couldn't find anything and asking vauxhall but they were equally unhelpful. :roll:

AlexW
29-06-09, 09:23 AM
Your engine will problery be totaly different to the corsa B one.

You need to find out the engine code of the engine that is in your car, and then find the same to replace it. Whats wrong with the one in the car anyways?

Mazz
29-06-09, 09:23 AM
Corsa B

http://www.modifiedcars4sale.com/corsa3.jpg

Corsa C

http://www.harbourgarage.co.uk/images/cars/Corsa05.jpg

What engine is it? And what car you want it in?

Mazz
29-06-09, 09:27 AM
Just looking at you other posts, yours is a C - so try and get an engine with the same code

Jack
29-06-09, 09:33 AM
Lauren, yes, yours is a C. What size engine is it?

Corsa A square headlights
Corsa B round headlights
Corsa C pointy headlights
Corsa D fugly headlights lol

ade
29-06-09, 09:41 AM
Lauren, yes, yours is a C. What size engine is it?

Corsa A square headlights
Corsa B round headlights
Corsa C pointy headlights
Corsa D fugly headlights lol

lol

Lauren I dont think it will fit without some modding (mounting brackets etc) - the corsa B was a remodelled shell on a Nova chassis.

I could be wrong but I think when they did the corsa C it was a total redesign...

AlexW
29-06-09, 09:53 AM
Yes ade that was my point, iirc C's have subframes.

Adam*D
29-06-09, 10:04 AM
I've put a corsa B 1.0 12v into a corsa C 1.0 12v, it was a late B tho.

L14MNP
29-06-09, 10:33 AM
The older Corsa C's become, the more they resemble the B's IMO. Was quite a fresh design when new, but now it looks like a dodgy facelift lol. Canny enough cars though. My sister had a C SXi and now has a D SXi - both bought from new without test drives FFS. lol

Lauren
29-06-09, 10:35 AM
Ok, mine is the same as the one in the picture, so it's a corsa c? It's a 1.2 engine.
The one I've been offered is a 1.2, twinport 16 valve Z12XE. Just yet to figure out if it's a b or c.

Ben
29-06-09, 11:48 AM
£300 for a Z12 XE they are ass raping you, i used to struggle getting £175 for them infact weighed a couple in as scrap as couldnt get shot of them.

AlexW
29-06-09, 11:50 AM
That engine sounds like a C one :)

Price is a bit steep, for that you could get a XE :eek:

GRUNT 16V
29-06-09, 01:50 PM
if its a z12xe it should be out of a corsa c

AlexW
29-06-09, 02:26 PM
Im still intersted to know whats wrong with the orignal.... weather it really needs replacing or thats just bull.

Lauren
29-06-09, 04:07 PM
^ Basically it cut out on me on the motorway, the engine light came on and I started losing power, pulled over and the engine is shaking and the exhaust is popping, took it to vauxhall who ran a diagnostic and said the compression is very low in cylinder 1 (45) and there are random misfires. They were gonna charge me an absolute fortune so I took it to a few mechanics who said it was most probably a valve but could also be a piston ring. To find out for sure the top of the engine would have to come off and they need specialist tools from vauxhall to reset the engine or something, which they don't sell and would charge a fortune again to send a mechanic out to do. So basically it will cost me less to replace the engine than it would do to confirm the problem and replace the parts.

Btw, 300 is the cheapest quote I've had so far for an engine, and I've had easily 30 quotes.

AlexW
29-06-09, 05:14 PM
If its droped a valve or bent one then the tool they mean is the timing chain tool iirc, which you can get cheaply lol

Ben
29-06-09, 06:44 PM
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Vauxhall-Corsa-C-1-2-16v-engine-Z12XEP-21-000-miles-VGC_W0QQitemZ320389468858QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Car sParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item4a98b352ba&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C72%3A1683%7C 240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

no bids says it all...

Ben
29-06-09, 06:45 PM
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2006-Vauxhall-Corsa-C-1-2-SXi-Twinport-Engine_W0QQitemZ320391233323QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_ CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item4a98ce3f2b&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C72%3A1683%7C 240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50.

Lauren
29-06-09, 08:16 PM
The first one I've already tried to get hold of for a buy it now price and he doesn't answer his phone, the second is pickup only and it's a good 5 hour drive for me. Ebay was the first place I tried.

Pistol Pete
29-06-09, 08:18 PM
Make an offer on the first one, he can only say no! Also ring round a few places see what delivery will cost if seller is willing to stick it on a pallet.

Lauren
29-06-09, 08:44 PM
yeah all the quotes I got were including delivery. I don't think it's too bad.

Pistol Pete
29-06-09, 09:11 PM
Get it bought and fitted then!!

ade
30-06-09, 09:42 AM
extreme measures call for extreme actions - sell the car and buy a new one - for the cash you'll spend buyoing the engine and getting it fitted you'd get a 1/2 decent Nova...

or trade it in of the scrappers scheme - get a new car. I like the new Nova (sorry) corsa VXR

Lauren
30-06-09, 01:36 PM
^ I see what you mean, and shoot me for saying this on a nova site, but personally I would rather spend £500 on getting a new engine and having it fitted in a corsa than buy a nova.
I like novas a lot, but also quite like the little things, like power steering, electric windows, a sunroof, etc etc. lol
*awaits abuse*

wwmnw
30-06-09, 02:01 PM
^ I see what you mean, and shoot me for saying this on a nova site, but personally I would rather spend £500 on getting a new engine and having it fitted in a corsa than buy a nova.
I like novas a lot, but also quite like the little things, like power steering, electric windows, a sunroof, etc etc. lol
*awaits abuse*

You should be banned for that slander :mad: :p You can fit power steering to a Nova but I cant see it being easy, And don't know how effective it would be.

sparkie1401
30-06-09, 02:06 PM
hi lauren i used to work in salvage, dont always believe what they tell you! get the code and buying the same unit should stop you having any problems

if you you like i can see if i can find you one cheaper?

£375 is expensive IMO

:thumb: PM if you want to, here to help

Southie
30-06-09, 02:24 PM
I would rather spend £500 on getting a new engine and having it fitted in a corsa than buy a nova.
No help from me :wtf:

Jack
30-06-09, 02:40 PM
No warranty from when you purchased the car?

TBH its all well and good buying an engine off ebay or wherever, but make sure you can get a place to fit it. Some garages may not want to fit an engine they didn't supply, and there's always the option that you'll end up with one thats in worse condition than you have now, or is missing various required gubbins.

I don't think there's a cheap way out of it, either you buy an engine and have it fitted, OR get the repair work done (try a specialist vauxhall garage, at least you can guarantee they'll have the tools) OR sell it and buy something else with the profit.

Lauren
30-06-09, 08:24 PM
I've ordered the engine and found a reliable mechanic to fit it already. The guy I'm ordering the engine from actually got my mechanics details from me and has rung him and confirmed that it is definitely the engine I need. So there's no chance of me getting the wrong one. And as for going to vauxhall, they were gonna charge a minimum of 2 grand!!!

Thanks for the offer sparkie, but honestly, I tried everywhere, I can't get one much cheaper than that, and they are delivering it to my mechanic personally.

AlexW
30-06-09, 08:43 PM
I still say what i said, would have been much cheaper to repair then replace but meh, woman.

Jack
01-07-09, 07:44 AM
I still say what i said, would have been much cheaper to repair then replace but meh, woman.

took it to vauxhall who ran a diagnostic and said the compression is very low in cylinder 1 (45) and there are random misfires. They were gonna charge me an absolute fortune so I took it to a few mechanics who said it was most probably a valve but could also be a piston ring. To find out for sure the top of the engine would have to come off and they need specialist tools from vauxhall to reset the engine or something, which they don't sell and would charge a fortune again to send a mechanic out to do. So basically it will cost me less to replace the engine than it would do to confirm the problem and replace the parts.
So clearly it wasn't.

If it was a cam locking tool, I'm not surprised at the cost. The cheapest price I found for the tool to lock the pulleys etc for the V6 was £200 (awaits all the "I got one for £50" posts lol) but we just cracked on with fingers and grips and hoped for the best. I'd never expect, or even want, a garage to do that though.

AlexW
01-07-09, 10:29 AM
A cam locking tool for one of those is £50-£75.

And you would find out if it was the valve as soon as you took the head off, if it then turned out to be the piston ring then i can see the point, but anyone with not very much mechanial know-how could problery take a head off, even on a ****ty new 16v.

Lauren
01-07-09, 01:27 PM
I don't know what tools it needed, but that's beside the point, you need to read my post properly.

I said that the total cost worked out to be more than replacing the engine, and I'm not lying. If I had the engine head taken off and it was a valve, then I would still have had to pay for vauxhall to come out as they will not sell the tools needed, as well as the cost for the valve, the head gasket, skimming the engine or whatever it's called, and the labour, which would have worked out at about £50 less than replacing the engine and getting it fitted.

If they took the engine apart and it turned out I needed a new piston ring as well, I'd have to replace the engine anyway because the cost would be ridiculous, plus pay the mechanic the labour cost for the work he has already done. Far better to just play it safe and get a new engine imo. If it was just a valve, than I've lost out on 50 quid. Rather that than take the risk of paying a couple of hundred quid over the top.

GRUNT 16V
01-07-09, 01:36 PM
special tools to take a head off ??????????? more like special tools for the timing chain !!! as for you new engine it does sound better for costs though

brake-dust
01-07-09, 01:43 PM
leave the girl alone, just remember alot of us can do jobs like that were as she clearly cant other wise she wouldnt be getting a garage to do it, the cost isnt extortionate, would have fitted a red top tho ;)

Lauren
01-07-09, 01:51 PM
special tools to take a head off ??????????? more like special tools for the timing chain !!! as for you new engine it does sound better for costs though

No, special tools to reset the engine, as also said in my previous post.