Vaughan's New Project

[vaughanmc]

Armed with Gaz's 'How To...' Guide I decided it was time to start on these

I didn't measure anything up which is probably wrong and just went at it with a hacksaw lol

But once they were all cut, I measured how much I'd chopped out and it was just over 60mm lol...

Nice and stubby, just what I wanted

Anyway, heres some pics of what I got upto

Only had about half an hour on these

Can't thank Gaz enough for firing up the How To thread

The hard bit has still to come though...

Pics:
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g191/vaughanmc/Project%20Stubbys/Stubbys1.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g191/vaughanmc/Project%20Stubbys/Stubbys2.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g191/vaughanmc/Project%20Stubbys/Stubbys3.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g191/vaughanmc/Project%20Stubbys/Stubbys4.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g191/vaughanmc/Project%20Stubbys/Stubbys5.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g191/vaughanmc/Project%20Stubbys/Stubbys6.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g191/vaughanmc/Project%20Stubbys/Stubbys.jpg
They look about stubby enough to me...?

Any comments/critisism's(sp) lol Are all welcome

Cheers for reading

Vaughan :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:

[muzzy]

Nice work for having a go, i dont tend to have the patience for stuff that i cant just hit with a hammer lol

[vaughanmc]

Needed to do it, I'm never ever going to be able to buy a set so I thought I'd make them

I await the PM's to fly in lol I can't wait to see these progress myself actually

Just need to source a spare drivers mirror then I can crack on...It'll be the hardest though

[Jack]

Leave them like that. Ratlook mirrors lol

I'm not a fan of stubbys tbh. OEM size Nova mirrors are pretty poo at the best of times!

[vaughanmc]

Ratlook lol Not into that myself but some would appreciate it

Stubby's are the future - I tried to look through Craig Green's drivers window out to the passenger stubby to see the visibility and it wasn't too bad really, the same with Austin's :)

[scott.parker]

Right sod it if your having a go then so am i! lol

I have my old silk violet one's in the shed.

[kevster]

nice thats it im doing the same lol

[scott.parker]

Cant find this how to guide?

[stuartyj21]

each to there own vaughan, were are you going to get the mirror. or are you going to cut it two haha

[scott.parker]

Mirror's the easy bit, just cut the small end off and then re-shape with emery paper on an air file, etc.

EDIT:

Right i found the thread, Ive looked at it, and Ive looked at others who have the mirrors, and i think i have figured out some slightly better techniques to apply to make these so there is allot less work involved, I'll try it over the next few weeks and document my progress, if it works as i plan then I'll share it lol

[Jack]

All the bits that are being cut out, send them to me. I'll make some extra long mirrors lol

[edit] Has anyone thought about trying some Corsa D mirrors mounted on the doors?

http://i.ebayimg.com/06/!BPFKL3!BGk~$(KGrHgoOKkMEjlLmV,uSBJ)5(u4c3Q~~_1.JP G

[scott.parker]

lol Ok

[hybridturbo]

Fairplay for having a go yourself :D

[vaughanmc]

I've a rough idea...Not the end of the world if I cock them up either

Cheers for the comments! :D

[scott.parker]

Vaugh I'll share my idea's with you via pm, might help you out a bit.

Scott

[vaughanmc]

Cheers mate, that would help out a lot :D

[scott.parker]

Wont be tonight though lol i need to look at thing's check them, make sure I'm right first.

[Novasport]

Took my advice and had a go, always better when you can do it yourself.
P.s. thanks again for sorting the bootlid for me:thumb:

[dj_wudgey]

Nice work for having a go, i dont tend to have the patience for stuff that i cant just hit with a hammer lol

im kinda like that but i just put it down walk off and come back later before i smash it with a hammer lol

[muzzy]

im kinda like that but i just put it down walk off and come back later before i smash it with a hammer lol

If you cant fix it with a hammer then break it with one. My other favoured tool is a grinder - same rule applies lol

[Cle]

:) should look good once there done mate :thumb:

[vaughanmc]

Took my advice and had a go, always better when you can do it yourself.
P.s. thanks again for sorting the bootlid for me:thumb:

Too right mate, plenty of time to work on these etc

No problem about the bootlid, always happy to help aslong as I know it's clean and will fit in the Nova :D

[vaughanmc]

Would it work if I cut out the lines I've edited in red and smoothed them off and plastic weld in a piece of plastic like Gaz done to create the OE shape of the mirrors ?
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g191/vaughanmc/Project%20Stubbys/Stubbys7.jpg
A picture from the top to visualise the angles:
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g191/vaughanmc/Project%20Stubbys/Stubbys8.jpg
Any inputs/suggestions are welcome

Cheers, Vaughan :thumb:

[scott.parker]

Vaughan, yes mate that was one of the things i was going to suggest, and the other is this.

Cut a line i have marked in red, widen it with the "heat gun trick" then add plastic in the gap,fill etc, as i think it's essayer to do this then to try blend the already formed edges into each other etc.

http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/9932/stubbys8.jpg

Scott

[vaughanmc]

I'll have a go at that as well mate, so the lines I 'plan' to cut on the actual curved casing is all right ?

[Dod]

I did a guide on these somewhere....

Anyway, you're well on your way but theres a whole lot of heart each to come yet mate, invest in an orbital sander.

The difference in the black part in the last pic can be sanded down to run level and the difference in height from the side will need to be bridged by bening both parts to meet each other and fitting a small slip or 2.5mm Iron/Steel in where the Mirror cover slides, if you keep the Metal failry slim, you'll still get the Cover in.

[scott.parker]

Yeah about there, maybe not quite a high on the left hand part, but something like, as thats the sort of thing i was thinking.

Scott

[Dod]

http://www.pngclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=103683&highlight=Stubby

There ya go.

[vaughanmc]

I did a guide on these somewhere....

Anyway, you're well on your way but theres a whole lot of heart each to come yet mate, invest in an orbital sander.

The difference in the black part in the last pic can be sanded down to run level and the difference in height from the side will need to be bridged by bening both parts to meet each other and fitting a small slip or 2.5mm Iron/Steel in where the Mirror cover slides, if you keep the Metal failry slim, you'll still get the Cover in.

Got to be an easier way than all that a*sing about lol...

[GRUNT 16V]

http://www.pngclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=122984
TRY THIS !!! AND SAVE ALL THE HASSLE

[vaughanmc]

You subbing me the money for them ?

[vaughanmc]

Mocked them up earlier with masking tape...

Under the masking tape is more tape with lines as to where I need to cut so I can follow Gaz's instructions

Here's what they could look like:
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g191/vaughanmc/Project%20Stubbys/Stubbys9.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g191/vaughanmc/Project%20Stubbys/Stubbys11.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g191/vaughanmc/Project%20Stubbys/Stubbys10.jpg
Let me know what you think :)

[Dod]

I think you should fill the inside with Filler or something some sort of plaster to give you a shape to work with. The nice thing about the Plaster is you can take it, layer it with Fibreglass and make a mould and mass produce the covers from there. Not as easy as all that but thats the basics.

[vaughanmc]

Going to crack on with them tomorrow...

Me and a mate are going to have a bash I think :)

Hopefully they turn out good! :D

[gaznovalet]

youl get ther vaughan pal your on the right path now, ive posted you the plastic so you can get cracking with the end peice, il keep checking back see how theyre doing.

[vaughanmc]

Cheers mate, had a wee bit more time on these today

Going by my other post on the page before with the red lines marked on, I went at it with a hacksaw and cut them out

I've not a slightly better picture in my head as to how the mirrors should look once there done:
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g191/vaughanmc/Project%20Stubbys/Stubbys12-1.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g191/vaughanmc/Project%20Stubbys/Stubbys14.jpg
Underside of the mirror - Still need to be heated up and put into shape of the original mirrors:
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g191/vaughanmc/Project%20Stubbys/Stubbys17.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g191/vaughanmc/Project%20Stubbys/Stubbys18.jpg
Only slightly out of line:
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g191/vaughanmc/Project%20Stubbys/Stubbys21.jpg
I've cut 65mm out of my mirrors, this pic shows where I cut from:
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g191/vaughanmc/Project%20Stubbys/Stubbys16.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g191/vaughanmc/Project%20Stubbys/Stubbys15.jpg
One last pic to show how stubby they are - They'll be a lot tidied once there done red and black the same as Nick Jackson's:
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g191/vaughanmc/Project%20Stubbys/Stubbys23.jpg

Cheers, Vaughan :thumb:

[scott.parker]

So now you have cut the ball joint out that the mirror locates into how are you going to keep the mirror in?

Scott

[vaughanmc]

Hmm...lol

Not worked that bit out yet...

Gaz didn't keep the middle bit in his either...and Nick's seem to work

[scott.parker]

OK, well i think i shall retain them to make life essayer.

Scott

[Ernie]

With all the spare mirrors i have in the lock up i mite join in on this aswell.
Hammer style tho lol.

[scott.parker]

With all the spare mirrors i have in the lock up i mite join in on this aswell.
Hammer style tho lol.

lol yeah and I'm sure you mean that too!

How many set's you got? wanna swap some for some stickers? lol

I'm going to take a trip to the scrappers to see if i can selvage some more set's of mirrors.

[Ernie]

I dont know you have been sending me the stickers for a few months now lol.

[scott.parker]

Umm maybe three weeks at most! but My nova takes priority over your stickers lol

[gunny]

Why cant i find the how to:confused:

[scott.parker]

Why cant i find the how to:confused:

It's not in articles.

http://www.pngclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123184

[gunny]

Ahh that would be why, cheers dude, only wanted a nose lol

[Dave.]

im going to go to the scrappys tomorrow and get me a set and have a bash at this, going to get a set that dont have internal adjusters though, make life easier :thumb:

[vaughanmc]

Well worth it - I now have my passenger and drivers mirrors both at the same stages as the pics in the page before

Just need to wait on some plastic then they can continue

Hopefully not be too long until there on the car :)

[vaughanmc]

A picture update; Where I'm at just now:
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g191/vaughanmc/Project%20Stubbys/Stubbys25.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g191/vaughanmc/Project%20Stubbys/Stubbys24.jpg
What I done with the passenger one today with cutting out the angled bit of plastic and a wee bit out of the main bit that mounts to the car I done the same with the drivers except it's in revserse...Sort of lol

Cheers, Vaughan :)

[Jay]

Nice one !

[Dave.]

i need to re-measure mine, ive cut 80mm out of mine lol

[Dave.]

now added another 2cm, so cutting 60mm out :thumb:

[Dave.]

just shopped mine, removed the bit i measured out 60mm, came out like this:

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h80/x_novadose_x/stubby.jpg

happy with that size :thumb:

[Adam]

Good work, but if everyone makes these they wont be so rare anymore lol lol

Its a kind of good thing when people dont do how-to guides......

[vaughanmc]

lol Exactly what I thought Adam, but there a real patience tester

So out of all the people who are 'making' them...We'll see how many end up finished lol

I don't even know if mine will get done...Here's hoping though

I cut 65mm out of mines Dave! :)

[Rich]

Next craze will be standard mirrors...

[vaughanmc]

I've always wanted a set of Stubbys ever since I saw Brett Warburton's Nova in Total Vauxhall a few years back :)

They never came up cheap enough to buy on my budget so the How To guide has been beneficial to me

For those who are wondering...I was into Nova's in a lot of detail when I was 10 years old...lol

[vaughanmc]

Where I'm at just now:
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g191/vaughanmc/Project%20Stubbys/Stubbys26.jpg
Still to be heated up and the lines made level then to be plastic welded then I can shape the angled piece of plastic more to how the mirrors should look

Vaughan :thumb:

[vaughanmc]

FINALLY lol

Got them plastic welded and the piece of plastic for the angled bit welded in and also got them skimmed over with filler :D

Just need some more final filling and some sanding then they'll be ready for paint

Hopefully have them on for Billing...
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g191/vaughanmc/Project%20Stubbys/Stubbys27.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g191/vaughanmc/Project%20Stubbys/Stubbys30.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g191/vaughanmc/Project%20Stubbys/Stubbys29.jpg
Getting there :D :D

Vaughan :thumb:

[scott.parker]

Yeah but can you now see why i said about opening the black part up? as it looks as if you have allot of work to do to get it lined up.. might be wrong.

Other then that them covers look quite good mate.

Scott

[Novaboi_1991]

looks great mate :)

bit more sanding, and youll be away :)

[vaughanmc]

Aye there not 100% yet like just need to apply more filler to them...

Just wanted to test out the theory to see if they actually could be made at 'home'

They'll get there though :D

Happy with them atm

[hybridturbo]

Not bad :thumb:

Think when i have a go i will try and keep as much as the outer cover as possible though, yours have lost the sharp standard edges.

[ben doodar]

i had a bash at making some of these aswell once.

http://www.pngclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=108918

[vaughanmc]

They still need sanded etc

Doubt anyone will ever get them perfect like the originals unless your name is 'Fearless' lol

[scott.parker]

Humm i like that idea Ben, with that one and some other ideas i have got i reckon there essayer then i first thought!

Scott

[vaughanmc]

I liked Ben's idea as well but how will you clip the case into the actual mirror housing ?

[scott.parker]

The backs just clip into the grove on the black part don't they?

[vaughanmc]

Aye but if you've shortened it will all the clips etc not be to pot ?

[scott.parker]

Don't know, as when i took mine apart last month before spray they were just clipped in tight to the groove??

[vaughanmc]

Aye I know that but if you cut them all down will that not put the clips out of place

As when I cut mine down the far away piece on the drivers mirror wouldn't sit on tight...

[scott.parker]

GLUE... lol

[vaughanmc]

lol If theres a will theres a way

You going to be following any guides or you just going to try whatevers the most simple ?

[scott.parker]

Well if i get time, god you would not believe the **** I'm actually doing these last few day's, been applying for jobs left right and center!

I will take some of the idea's you have used, the one Ben had with not cutting it totally out, and my own idea with the black part etc.
So i will document all when/if i get round to it.

Scott

[vaughanmc]

Nice one fella, it'll be interesting to see how they turn out

Good luck with the job search by the way :)

[vaughanmc]

Cracked on for a wee while today with the mirrors

Gave them a quick sand down with some 240 Paper...
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g191/vaughanmc/Project%20Stubbys/Stubbys31.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g191/vaughanmc/Project%20Stubbys/Stubbys32.jpg
Filled a wee bit underneath the passenger mirror as it was slightly uneven and checked them for size and shape again:
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g191/vaughanmc/Project%20Stubbys/Stubbys33.jpg
The two of them side by side to show them together:
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g191/vaughanmc/Project%20Stubbys/Stubbys34.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g191/vaughanmc/Project%20Stubbys/Stubbys35.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g191/vaughanmc/Project%20Stubbys/Stubbys36.jpg
A quick dust over with primer so I could see what I'm left with as plastic and filler doesn't look the same:
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g191/vaughanmc/Project%20Stubbys/Stubbys37.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g191/vaughanmc/Project%20Stubbys/Stubbys38.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g191/vaughanmc/Project%20Stubbys/Stubbys39.jpg

They just need rubbed down with finer and finer sand paper until there completely smooth then they'll be about ready for more primer then paint

Just need to work out how I'm going to go about the glass part as thats a mirrors main function lol

Vaughan!

[Plug]

is it me or does one mirror look bigger than the other?

Top progress anyhow will look good when finished :thumb:

[Novaboi_1991]

nah man they look great, wish i hat the patience n all that shiz to do it,

might try with the set on the hatch, hmm ,

or get daddy to make um, lol

[vaughanmc]

Well they both have the same measurements...They look about the same to me...

Cheers for the comments

Really can't wait to see them painted

Not going to be Concourse like Nick J's though

[pickle]

someone had to say they look different size's. i just did'nt get in early enough. lol

[Plug]

so it wasnt just me lol

only in the fourth pic they look differant lol

will look good when painted up :thumb:

[vaughanmc]

Will be because of the angle of the picture lol

There measured the exact same - 52mm in from a certain point then 65mm chopped out :)

[vaughanmc]

Out to work on the mirrors at 9AM - Wanted to let the primer dry/harden as long as possible from the night before so I washed the Nova (looks nice and shiney) lol

Found a piece of 1200 sand paper and took it to quite a small size and started rubbing the mirrors down taking out most of the imperfections...Never going to be perfect mind you

Another one of those (here's how I started pics)...
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g191/vaughanmc/Project%20Stubbys/Stubbys42.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g191/vaughanmc/Project%20Stubbys/Stubbys43.jpg
Got them very very smooth so as the paint would go on nice and even - Didn't go overkill with the paint as I didn't want any runs

Gave them about 4 coats this morning and I'm leaving them in the garage to dry/harden for a good few hours tonight:
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g191/vaughanmc/Project%20Stubbys/Stubbys44.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g191/vaughanmc/Project%20Stubbys/Stubbys45.jpg
Looking a wee bit pink/orange but thats what the bright sun does to red:
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g191/vaughanmc/Project%20Stubbys/Stubbys46.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g191/vaughanmc/Project%20Stubbys/Stubbys48.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g191/vaughanmc/Project%20Stubbys/Stubbys50.jpg
I'd say its not a bad attempt for using rattle cans to paint them - They should look better once there polished and waxed and also with the outer casing done in black

I know where to go when I'm making my next set so they look even more like OE Nova mirrors but this was only a test to see if they could be 'HOME' made...and they pretty much can

I reckon after making a few sets they'll get better but there not too bad for the 1st attempt and I WILL need some filler practise lol

Cheers, Vaughan

[vaughanmc]

Quite a while mate! The next set I make will hopefully be perfection but this was only a test

The red paint had hardened enough for me to mask it off and sand down the parts that should be black

Got all that done and heres the finished article:
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g191/vaughanmc/Project%20Stubbys/Stubbys58.jpg
Definately not 100% but about 7 or 8 out of 10 for a 1st attempt

Here's some shots of both of them on the car:
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g191/vaughanmc/Project%20Stubbys/Stubbys57.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g191/vaughanmc/Project%20Stubbys/Stubbys60.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g191/vaughanmc/Project%20Stubbys/Stubbys61.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g191/vaughanmc/Project%20Stubbys/Stubbys56.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g191/vaughanmc/Project%20Stubbys/Stubbys53.jpg
Little and Large:
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g191/vaughanmc/Project%20Stubbys/Stubbys55.jpg

Now I need to work out how to get the glass in and fixed...

Cheers, Vaughan

[let_nova]

right one looks massive..lol



http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g191/vaughanmc/Project%20Stubbys/Stubbys60.jpg

[vaughanmc]

lol Should have put above that one something like 'A bit of both...' lol

[moffat]

wow came out good mate

[scott.parker]

Looks good Mr Vaughan!

Still think on the next one's do the back parts separate.

Scott

[vaughanmc]

Cheers for the comments :)

Spoke to Iain on MSN about them and it was to prove my Dad that they could be made lol

If I make another set I'll take more time on them and as you said Scott, try and do the angled case and mirror case separately :)

[moffat]

i really need to have a go now but to much to worry about before i start lol.

[vaughanmc]

lol Aye there well worth it once there made :)

I've learned a lot from these! Anyone think there worth £92 lol ?

[Plug]

looks good mate for some home brew mirrors mate :thumb:

they look alot better painted

[vaughanmc]

Cheers fella :thumb: Still to be polished and waxed yet

Need to let the paint fully harden though

[Plug]

+ Rep for making them so quick also :thumb:

They would have been worth £92 a couple weeks ago but as theres so many people trying to make them there commen now lol

[vaughanmc]

+ Rep for making them so quick also :thumb:

They would have been worth £92 a couple weeks ago but as theres so many people trying to make them there commen now lol

Cheers for the rep mate but note the word I've made BOLD

Still very rare as no-one has completed a set yet

[Plug]

very true lol

whack them up for sale there will be lazy people like me who ill buy them still

[vaughanmc]

lol Nope

1. I want to keep them for the time being - At least until Billing is by with
2. There not 100% MINT like Nick J's and I wouldn't want to sell them to anyone else...

Maybe sometime though...I doubt they'd fetch £100 though

[moffat]

cheers fur the rep fella al gee you it back when i can lol :D

[vaughanmc]

No problem man :)

Still can't find that passenger mirror glass lol

[vxr_racing_2008]

il give you £40 posted:thumb: lol

[vaughanmc]

This set isn't Forsale but if I make another set they might go to someone for a good price...

[vaughanmc]

Couple more random pics:
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g191/vaughanmc/Project%20Stubbys/Stubbys51.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g191/vaughanmc/Project%20Stubbys/Stubbys54.jpg
Vaughan :thumb:

[Plug]

cars looking clean and shiney as always mate and the mirrors do look good on it :thumb:

[vaughanmc]

Cheers fella, can't wait to get them fitted up with glass or plastic :)

[moffat]

fukn amazing man im going to start a set soon :)

[vaughanmc]

Crack on mate :thumb:

[vaughanmc]

Cracked on with these again tonight - Only managed to find the drivers side glass

Got the plastic backing separated from the glass and cut it down to size - The amount of bodging needed for these mirrors is unreal...but anyway lol

I put the plastic part into the mirror in its final position - Going to be fixed due to me cutting out the centre part of the mirror housing - Going to use superglue round the edges to seal it all and hold it in place:
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g191/vaughanmc/Project%20Stubbys/Stubbys65.jpg

Got a cardboard template roughly cut to size but it'll need modified to make them a wee bit bigger so my 'mirror' can be as big as possible:
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g191/vaughanmc/Project%20Stubbys/Stubbys67.jpg

Until the next time...

[vxr_racing_2008]

Looking good:thumb: i will have to try and give it a shot a think.:d

[vaughanmc]

I've decided to finish the mirrors but I don't think there going on the car

I'm going to opt for reflective plastic to use as a mirror as I've no way in getting the original glass cut

Can't wait to get them done but there not getting fitted due to them not being 100%