Saab turbo motors

[Adam*D]

I've seen a few vid's kickin about lately with vaux's with saab turbo motors, whats the crack? people say there cheaper than a LET and easier to tune so why are there soooo few about? If they bolt to a f20 then there'd only be the front mount to make and that only leaves the wiring???????
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0SXekVrwrs&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Enemm%2Eco%2Euk%2Fforums%2F showthread%2Ephp%3Ft%3D10108&feature=player_embedded

[gaznovalet]

many of the saab engines use same blocks as vauxhall engines with exact same mounting points i know because nearly bought a saab v6 engine once for a conversion all that was diffrent to the vauxhall set up was the inlet and ecu. im looking for a saab griffin 3.0 v6 turbo engine as we speak wot is going into a freinds mk4 astra so they can be worked with as you say mount and wiring and your away. the saab griffin 3.0v6 is a low blow turbo and have also seen these in vauxhalls a few times a mk3 astravan springs straight to mind.

[Adam*D]

the link i posted is a mk3 van with a saab turbo lump. I honestly can't understand why this conversion isn't used more often! can someone tell me what engine I would need to bolt to an f20 and go in my nova as there's a few different ones.

[gaznovalet]

yer mate ive also seen a grey mk3 astra van with saab turbo engine in quite recently aswel on internet. any of the saab 2.0, 2.2, 2.5 and 3.0 engines will bolt up to a vauxhall big block gearbox.they have same bell housing pattern due to being same blocks. most the saabs have chip key imobilised ecus so for a conversion you wud need the lot to make it run in a nova ie full loom, ecu, chip key and transponder from the same car.

[Adam*D]

Feck me! have ya seen how cheap they are on the bay!!!!
I've got a few quid in paypal so when 1 comes up local I'm havin it!!!!!

[gaznovalet]

yer i nearly had a whole car from egay a while back, it had no tax or test but i only wanted the engine, didnt even make 200 quid. and it drove.

[philip]

the engines are too tall too fit in the corsa bay iirc.

[P Whack]

the engines are too tall too fit in the corsa bay iirc.

no their not they fit fine and the 3 litre v6 only difference is the chip key and the inlet is the same just with a saab badge as i used it on my conversion.

[philip]

sure deek off migweb mentioned comething about them not fitting well into corsa's. as he fitted one in his mk3 astra last month

[Sloth]

they do go into the corsa b shells, but the sump needs cutting and making shallower, and the chassis leg needs a fair bit cutting out of it, like the nova xe alt cut-out. the bonnet strengthener ribs do need trimming aswell. the engine you need is a post 1993 engine, as these bolt to a f20.

[Adam*D]

If the blocks are the same then is it not possible to use a 20xe sump?

[davidfox280585]

you can pick a full 2.3 turbo car up for 150 quid mot failure the cab will see a valver this summer then i will venture into a 2.3 turbo and see whats involved,
so people are saying a f20 will bolt straight up then?

[Adam*D]

^^^^^
on a certain range of these engines, the f20 will fit as they use a GM block, that's the reason I'm considering doing 1 ;)

[Sloth]

no, you misunderstand, the saab uses the gm bellhousing pattern, the block is saabs own design. its far stronger than an xe block. i would avoid the 2.3 in a small car, tbh you can see 500bhp from the 2.0 and they rev better. the 2.3 is all about torque for big barge like saab 9000's.

[davidfox280585]

sounds like a good challenge to get one fitted and tweaked and see the results