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Stanley
28-04-09, 12:46 PM
Right, im struggling to find an E16SE thats anywhere near me, but can get a C16SE from a MK3 Astra. Low miles and was on an auto, so has had an easy life.

Whats needed for swapping these over? Can i just swap the inlets and run the E16 loom?

The C16 has a coil pack, will i need to bin this in favour of a dizzy?

(ive tried search but had no luck btw)

Thanks.

MK999
28-04-09, 12:49 PM
There's a few niggly problems with sensors etc, can you not use the c16 loom out of the astra?

edit: didn't spot it was an auto, are the ecu's any different on those?

Stanley
28-04-09, 12:50 PM
The engine is on a pallet at a breakers, so i assume the shell and loom has since been crushed.

GRUNT 16V
28-04-09, 12:51 PM
Have You Got An Old E16se Engine Then????

craig green
28-04-09, 12:52 PM
Inlet manifold will need swapping to E16 item with its TB & the cam carrier from an E16 so you can fit the dizzy. Rest should be fine, eg crank sensor can be left off.

Stanley
28-04-09, 12:54 PM
Have You Got An Old E16se Engine Then????

There is one fitted at present yeah.

Stanley
28-04-09, 12:55 PM
Inlet manifold will need swapping to E16 item with its TB & the cam carrier from an E16 so you can fit the dizzy. Rest should be fine, eg crank sensor can be left off.

So if i strip the C16 down to head and block, fit the E16 inlet/exhaust, cam box, dizzy and loom, it 'should' be good to go?

GRUNT 16V
28-04-09, 12:57 PM
As Craig Said Shoud Be A Swap Over Job Ie Inlet/ Exhaust Manifolds / Cam Shaft Housing Etc Etc And Dont Forget The Flywheel

GRUNT 16V
28-04-09, 12:57 PM
This Does Mean You Will Need A New Head Gasket /bolts Etc

Stanley
28-04-09, 12:58 PM
Hmm cam is seized on my E16 lol

What a ballache this is becomming...

GRUNT 16V
28-04-09, 01:02 PM
It Sounds Like Your Fecked Then !

Stanley
28-04-09, 05:08 PM
Would a C14SE be the same script? If it came from a Nova?

craig green
28-04-09, 06:49 PM
Would a C14SE be the same script? If it came from a Nova?

Script?? :confused: Whats that?

It shouldnt be hard to find a GTE cam carrier & cam. I did have 2 spares here but have sold them on NL/png over the years.

Stanley
28-04-09, 09:48 PM
Script?? :confused: Whats that?

It shouldnt be hard to find a GTE cam carrier & cam. I did have 2 spares here but have sold them on NL/png over the years.

Script/story/idea lol. Must be a stan thing...:confused:

Is the reason for swapping the cam carrier etc due to the C16 having a coil pack? What if i found a C16 from a Nova with a dizzy?

craig green
28-04-09, 10:51 PM
A C16 wouldnt have a dizzy. But seeing as your cam is seized & you need to use the E16 UCU etc, you will require a cam housing to suit the dizzy & another cam that isnt scored from being seized.

Your shopping list seems to be;

C16Se short motor & head.
e16SE cam carrier & camshaft
E16SE dizzy, ECU, loom, inlet man & TB

Stanley
28-04-09, 10:53 PM
A C16 wouldnt have a dizzy. But seeing as your cam is seized & you need to use the E16 UCU etc, you will require a cam housing to suit the dizzy & another cam that isnt scored from being seized.

Your shopping list seems to be;

C16Se short motor & head.
e16SE cam carrier & camshaft
E16SE dizzy, ECU, loom, inlet man & TB

Ahh ok...

Thank you indeed sir!:thumb:

+ Rep

Slik Gambino
29-04-09, 06:35 PM
why dont you have your E16 reconed it probably wouldent cost that much.