1700 TD engine in a nova

[M7VLJ]

Anyone done it as im gona throw one in my van tomorrow, how do they go?
matt

[let_nova]

in the front. oh and they go vroom vroom

[Count Vaux Alot]

stupid question - stupid answer lol

[M7VLJ]

sorry didnt realise i had to put everything in a simple form that people understand,
i have a 1700 isuzu combustion ignition turbo charged engine which i will be placing on engine mounts at the front of my van, has anyone done such thing.

[Pistol Pete]

I havent, no.

[sparkie1401]

its can be done as ive seen it in TV magazine! not a full feature but the section of readers cars!

the 1500 nova and 1700 astra/cav engine are allmost identical, cant see you having too many probs to be honest

[Count Vaux Alot]

sorry didnt realise i had to put everything in a simple form that people understand,
i have a 1700 isuzu combustion ignition turbo charged engine which i will be placing on engine mounts at the front of my van, has anyone done such thing.

Oh i see what you mean now you have put it in a 'simple form'....no.

Perhaps you could use the search??

[novaguy08]

replied on MIG, but i saw one on ebay a while ago, apparently went like stink!!

[vx kev]

Not too familiar with the isuzu engine but if it is similar to the vauxhall 1700 8v low blow td then its pretty much the same as putting a 2.0 ltr in as its based on the 2.0 ltr block.

[let_nova]

iirc the 1.7 is just the 1.5 bored out?

[Count Vaux Alot]

Not too familiar with the isuzu engine but if it is similar to the vauxhall 1700 8v low blow td then its pretty much the same as putting a 2.0 ltr in as its based on the 2.0 ltr block.

The isuzu is nothing like the low blow - but the 1.5 and the 1.7 are very similar.

[Adam]

A tweaked 1.7td engine is quite impressive for what it is.
Would go well in a light nova.

[burgo]

your all wrong!!!!

[Count Vaux Alot]

your all wrong!!!!

Probably lol lol

[Rysee]

replied on MIG, but i saw one on ebay a while ago, apparently went like stink!!

He was a chav and said it was the fastest nova on ebay

[Pistol Pete]

your all wrong!!!!

Because...

[Leeboo]

To do the 1.7 conversion you need to use bits off 1.5td

[burgo]

Because...its not simple to do at all.

first decide wether you are gonna use the 1.7 box or the 1.5 box. if your using the 1.7 box you need big block conversion shafts. if using the 1.5 you need the 1.5 clutch and flywheel i think.

next you need the 1.5 alternator and bracket an the 1.7 one dont fit because of the crossmember. however using the 1.5 alternator on the 1.7 fouls a water pipe. you could either use the 1.5 set up or modify the 1.7 one. i chose to modify he 1.7 pipe as its a much larger diameter than the 1.5 and i didnt want to hinder the cooling. i modified it by cutting it and having it welded at an angle to miss the alternator. even with this i still had to attack the alternator with the grinder

you need the 1.5 cam belt cover and engine mount and maybe a pulley. one of the 1.7 pulleys is different to the 1.5 and requires a hole drilling in the cam belt cover to make room for the nut on the pulley.

theres also a number of sensors that need swapping from the 1.5 to the 1.7 as the plugs are different.

thats what i can remember off the top of my head

[Count Vaux Alot]

Is the bracket on the diesel pump different between 1.5 and 1.7 as they are different between 1.7 N/A and TD, then there is if/were you are going to mount the cooler etc

[burgo]

no i think the pump mount is fine. there was some gay bracket on the back of mine which was in the way of the steering rack but i just unbolted that.

[Count Vaux Alot]

Think thats the one i'm on about...it mounts the back of the pump to the block....if so the N/A's one is smaller and doesn't foul iirc

[M7VLJ]

managed to get it all swopped over at the weekend had a tweek with the pump yesterday and very surprised at how well it goes, need to start thinking about the f16 box as the 1500 clutch aint holding up to well. but overall pretty impressed
cheers for the help ill try get pics up once iv found the lead to my phone

[Rysee]

managed to get it all swopped over at the weekend had a tweek with the pump yesterday and very surprised at how well it goes, need to start thinking about the f16 box as the 1500 clutch aint holding up to well. but overall pretty impressed
cheers for the help ill try get pics up once iv found the lead to my phone

Nice, i know it sounds boring but good mpg?

[davidfox280585]

i did this conversio in my corsa b van went very well

[M7VLJ]

well not to good at the mo as my gear linkage has fell to pieces and havent got reverse or 5th but im sure as soon as i get 5th back it will be at least 45mpg id imagine

[burgo]

lush another TD animal :).

[M7VLJ]

hahah dunno about it being an animal, its covored in oily hand prints still not had chance to wash it. had to turn the fuel down as clutch slip isnt too good, has anyone done any mods to the exsisting nova engine mount to make it stronger or at least look like it could withstand an engine, really not liking the 2 bolt idea

[burgo]

i didnt mod it i just kept a spare pair of bolts in the car lol. dont worry tho as when they snap the engine cant fall out because of the alternator

[M7VLJ]

i didnt mod it i just kept a spare pair of bolts in the car lol. dont worry tho as when they snap the engine cant fall out because of the alternator
this is one of the reasons i put the 1700 in as the 1500 "fell out" does go really well, im surprised tbh

[burgo]

now get 20 psi going through it ;)

[M7VLJ]

now get 20 psi going through it ;)
is that proven
and how much overall fuel you give it?

[burgo]

a boost guage saying 20psi is proven i think. my brother has had his astra at 20psi for a while aswell. fuel is a case keep turning it up until your happy basically.

do you have a boost tap on it?

[Count Vaux Alot]

My corsa ran 1.5bar (and still does) and its fine

[M7VLJ]

do you have a boost tap on it?[/quote]
no not yet thinking of tho just to have a play about,
would it be acheiveable to get 100 horses out of one?

[Count Vaux Alot]

When i had mine rolling roaded it ran 116bhp and 175lb ft with a fmic, exhaust and upped fuel and boost (only 1bar/14psi) i then increased the fuel and boost on the operators recommendations so i recon its around the 120bhp mark now....

[burgo]

yes piece of piss.

why are you bothered about horsepower. your on the darkside now, torque is your friend

[novaguy08]

give it enough torque to turn the world :D