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Saloony
18-04-09, 07:06 PM
Now, i know we probably have touched on this subject before (not each other for a change) now, are you religious? Partners religious?
Im meeting a girl soon, who is a bit god fearing, with ties to church of a sunday, as this got her through alsorts. Im sort of raising an eyebrow to it..
Discuss?
ME thinks this will end in locked thread tearness lol
Saloony
18-04-09, 07:20 PM
lol Stu you know you cant wait for what will unfold... and im being quite genuine here
if you erm "like" her, then make it known you might not be a believer, but also make it clear that you respect it (if you do of course)
lol
i dated a girl who was religious, she accepted that i'm not religious and that i wont go to church, ever. and i accepted that she did, and tried not to swear to much lol
My uncles fiancee is the vicor's daughter hes pretty nice and easy going but they arnt allowed to live together and hes gone wierd going to church and loves his calibra
Don't do it!!! You could end up all god fiery and driving a donor car
smcgsi16v
18-04-09, 07:54 PM
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smcgsi16v
18-04-09, 07:55 PM
The mrs and I are not religious people, especally me; I think its a load of old tosh.
But we do both believe in mediumship and have been to spiritualist churches.
I think that you would have to make it very clear to her, if you didn't believe in that sort of stuff but would happily accept her for who and what she believed in.
Religion is a supurb tool for getting through life for some people, and for that its has to be respected.
Lets face it, it was invented to stop the human brain going nuts when it got to the point of recognising its own mortality.
I know when im drawing my terminal breaths I will be pooing myself because ill know when im gone i'm gone, whereas a god botherer will probably be quite relaxed about it.
Its difficult to ridicule it when you look at it that way.
Its people who waste their lives dedicated to the worship of his hairyness who I feel sorry for the most. Get a life, shag some females, eat some bacon, and stop blaming a make believe dude for your own shortcomings.
That is all :)
God is watching you!!!!!!! Fear his wrath!!!!!!!
Tidy Max
18-04-09, 08:31 PM
oh dear, sex before marriage?
Im not going to rant about religion, but im a big no no for it,
but as a couple of points, i think the correlation between countries where religious fanatics are usually from (not just fanatics, just very devout people ect) AND the level of education in those countries (lack of) is quite interesting, the fact of the matter is as we become more educated less people believe (cough, are conned, cough)
Its not for me in the slightest and all in all, including all the people who it helps, i think more bad has come from religion than good, i mean if you want to have a make believe friend, thats fine, if you want to go visit a specific building to tell this 'friend' how much you like/fear him, thats fine, but don't bloody go chopping peoples heads off and causing all sorts of hoo har if other people don't believe in him!
God is watching you!!!!!!! Fear his wrath!!!!!!!
I only believe in buddy christ anyway :)
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k194/chaotic_psychopath/BuddyChrist.jpg
I only believe in buddy christ anyway :)
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k194/chaotic_psychopath/BuddyChrist.jpg
I have a buddy christ at work. He points and smiles at me all day:cool: The god of war stands behind him pointing at all the other feckers in the office:thumb:
valvercorsa
18-04-09, 08:47 PM
hahahaha
no its not for me but its really annoying when then people come to door and talk for ages about something and then give you a leaflet with jesus loves you on it lol
she aint a nun is she lol
Don't do it!!! You could end up all god fiery and driving a donor car
LMFAO!!!!! I don't know why that amused me so much but it did lol.
I go to church the very odd time with my family if theres a special event or something but thats it. I suppose if I'm honest with myself I don't believe or anything. I drink sometimes, I work at my car on sundays, I swear etc.
HOWEVER - Regarding any strong christians that I know, I let them get on with it. I don't mock or accuse them of false believing, why? Because I don't know. Just because you don't believe, doesn't make you correct.
My uncle used to be a Vaux nut who got loaded every weekend with his friends, polish his cav every sunday after he threw up green stuff, let out the odd swear.....now, he wouldn't dream of doing any of that, as he has been 'saved' - thats his choice.
The only way I get annoyed is when a strong christian tells you that you shouldn't be doing this/doing that. It works both ways.
Because I don't know. Just because you don't believe, doesn't make you correct.
I had someone say that to me the other day during a conversation about religion.
I just said the word 'Dinosaurs'. It wins that arguement every time lol
Saloony
18-04-09, 09:43 PM
lol
My cousin who is very much like me married a muslim, but she is very westernised, and super cool. Before they married her rents asked him to convert, they both said piss off.
My mate married a Cath, and altho doesnt do the lingo he sometimes attends the masses, he quite enjoys them lol
My sis before she passed had sightings of a few people that were close to the family, she would never make stuff up like that. Since then, like Stu we've been to mediums and im very much into that, theres too much there just to be guess work.
But if there was a greater good.. other than me lol, families like ours wouldnt of had there world torn apart the way that it was.
At the end of it.... what i believe in is myself and the others that i hold close, family and good friends which i would trust myself with. Thats reality, thats in front of me from which anyone (with the same view as me) can draw strength from.
My sis before she passed had sightings of a few people that were close to the family, she would never make stuff up like that. Since then, like Stu we've been to mediums and im very much into that, theres too much there just to be guess work.
Don't get Lee on to the mediums subject or he will start going on about holes opening up in roads etc.
LMFAO lol
Mediums are a load of pap. But thats just my opinion :)
Pistol Pete
18-04-09, 10:08 PM
I'm not a massively religious person. Neither i my other half. My mum was brought up catholic in a monestry...
I dont have an issue with religious people. Each to their own. Dont force it on me though.
16v Nova Kev
18-04-09, 10:10 PM
:witch: lol
dj_wudgey
18-04-09, 11:25 PM
never beileved in any off it me!!
my missus is quite religious, & the kids enjoy going to church. I am not.
I take the kids to church if the missus is working (she is a nurse) & the vicar & his helpers, and the other regular churchgoers know I am not a true believer, but they accept me & don't try to ram it down my throat. that is why the church of england is not growing in numbers, they teach acceptance & tolerance.. there are other christian faiths that claim it is unacceptable not to belong to them, there are other faiths that claim that if you are not in them, you are fair game....
Religion is there to fill the hole in your life, nothing more, nothing less.... If someone wants to be in a spiritualist church, so be it.
the only thing I can be certain of is that holes in the road are not the work of some divine force, but incompetent council workmanship.
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the only thing I can be certain of is that holes in the road are not the work of some divine force, but incompetent council workmanship.
hahaha
i dont believe in anything.
no religions nothing. i think they are all aload of tosh.
imo they are excuses. islam is an excuse.
and that mdiumship, thats a load of tosh as well. isnt it weird how you can have a room full of people and they call out one name and just by chance one person knows somneone dead called that name... and then they just go by chance. fair enough somethings are mental which they remember. but body language can give away alot.
saying all that i dated a muslim/asian.
and if her dad found out, i would be dead.....
I once went to a wedding in the isle of sheppey.
the reception was held at a hall that was opened by the 'famous medium, Doris Stokes' according to a sign in the entrance. I always wondered if she rang them to book it or they rang her........
lmao, my rents are catholic,and on my birth certificate it says that too, but i dont practice, yet my mum and dad do. each to there own is my line. i dop belive there is another force in the world, but as to what it is or who, i cant say. i dont belive in heaven or hell, seen as no-one has come back too tell us they exist. i do belive in ghosts, but not mediums. but like i said each to there own.
Its all just storys written to control people that will happy follow not matter how bad is is or what it putsa them thru.
Its easier to control with fear than it is with love.
i do belive in ghosts, but not mediums. but like i said each to there own.
I didn't believe the whole ghost thing till i saw one.
same here mate, my nan appeared to me. cant get more proof than that.
mine was a girl that I knew from school, who got killed in a car crash. I saw her in the road on the bend where she died.
robertdevlin69
19-04-09, 12:45 PM
i was born catholic brought up catholic and will die a catholic,evryone needs something to believe in,i go to mass on the big events in the christian callender,religion is there to give people moral support etc IMO some people need it some dont
I guess because some of my family are religious and that i used to attend church when i was younger than i still have a part of me that sort of does believe but i do not attend church anymore and havent done for a good 13 years. I do not mind what other people believe in as long as they accept that not everyone has to share the same view as them and they dont come knocking on my door trying to convert me and not take no for an answer.
wilson_sri
19-04-09, 01:12 PM
mine was a girl that I knew from school, who got killed in a car crash. I saw her in the road on the bend where she died.
I would literally ****e myself if i seen that! :eek:
Not sure what i believe tbh. I get myself in a pickle thinking about it. It always gets explained as the big bang, a reaction of differant factors. But how did all these gases etc happen in the first place? How did they gete there, how were they created. :wtf:
Actually im going to stop thinking about it before i hurt myself.
same here mate, my nan appeared to me. cant get more proof than that.
Trouble is though that seeing something is not proof. There are people in the world who see weird stuff all day because their brain isn't wired correctly. 80% of the human brain is not understood, and we dont use much more of it for that matter. It can do some very weird stuff.
I saw what I still believe to this day was someone walk through a brick wall when I was out on my bike as a kid. Saw it clear as day. Crapped my pants. Two days later I had a very nasty fever. Im pretty certain it wasnt a ghost though, i rekon it was my brain being gay.
And Mr BMW, a man saying a name in a room in hope of someone there knowing someone by that name who is dead is a very crap medium. There are much more talented people out there who use psychological illusion, perceptual manipulation and persuasive technique to make you firmly believe they can talk to the dead. Derren Brown is a good example.
People should definately be able to believe what they want to believe. What I believe is above :)
And I cant remember for the life of me how I was using holes in the road to argue with Dar about something either lol
And I cant remember for the life of me how I was using holes in the road to argue with Dar about something either lol
well make sure its a little pothole, or dar may need rescuing..
I would literally ****e myself if i seen that! :eek:
it happened about 25 years ago & I've never been able to drive that road how I did before i saw her. I used to take it flat out in top on the wrong side of the road on my way home from my job at kfc. ever since always brake & keep on the right side of the road.
i was born catholic brought up catholic and will die a catholic,evryone needs something to believe in,i go to mass on the big events in the christian callender,religion is there to give people moral support etc IMO some people need it some dont
lol
Oh dear, If i beileve in Harry Potter will he guild me thru life? Or make me a Wizard?
And to give moral support?lol
Jim Mcrae
19-04-09, 02:23 PM
Religeon is a mega powefull thing and if people chose to follow it and better them selfs good for them. Went to a religious festival once trying to get into this girl, but me and my mate got funked up on tequilla and had to leave (it was ****, rubbish music everyone wanted to convert you and show you god). Its a load of rubbish im my opinion.
raymond
19-04-09, 02:42 PM
my gf is a catholic and it was one of the qs she asked me when we met but i dont believe in ewt
its abit hard around the easter times when they give up something for lent and i dont and feel a tad guilty lol
although she has told me she wants are child being brought up catholic and ive respected that other than im not going to church
catholics, the only religion that mourns their god, not celebrates it...
catholics, the only religion that mourns their god, not celebrates it...
I just don't get all that daVinci stuff myself, I'm hoping the sequel sorts it out.......
kelbelle
19-04-09, 05:43 PM
I am one big contradiction! I am a spiritualist and used to go to a spiritualist church with my mum BUT I am doing a psychology and sociology degree which seeks to discredit all religion lol
If anyone wants to read an interesting book then read The God Delusion. Makes some very good points about religion and how it cant be real but I still believe in another entity but dont know what it is. I believe in the after life and reincarnation.
Although i dont actually like religion. Someone else said and I agree that it causes more trouble than good. Too much ****ty stuff has happened in this world 'in the name of god'. War, death, child sexual abuse etc
But like everyone else I say believe what you want, I just dont wanna hear it!
Oh and Martin, you could barely have called that a relationship!
/\/\
right, thats you off my xmas card list.... and you'd better not have eaten any easter eggs........
I still believe in another entity but dont know what it is. I believe in the after life and reincarnation.
Everyone deals with their inevitable death differently.
the way i see things, soimetimes people spend way too much time debating why we are all on this rock instead of just getting on with the job of life.
Amen brother. And too many people waste too much time making sure their god is going to except them to an afterlife instead of living the one they have.
the way i see things, soimetimes people spend way too much time debating why we are all on this rock instead of just getting on with the job of life.
spot on mate! were here for a good time not a long time!
i do belive in ghosts, but not mediums. but like i said each to there own.
Ghosts are a completely different ballgame to spiritualism and mediums (despite what those involved with both will tell you), and are quite easily explained by science. I believe in ghosts, but in a logical sense.
I would literally ****e myself if i seen that! :eek:
Not sure what i believe tbh. I get myself in a pickle thinking about it. It always gets explained as the big bang, a reaction of differant factors. But how did all these gases etc happen in the first place? How did they gete there, how were they created. :wtf:
Actually im going to stop thinking about it before i hurt myself.
^ this I find interesting, as a few religious people have made the same argument - as in "you're telling me the big bang just happened?! Thats crazy". So an entity with physical form of a man (as man was supposedly created in Gods form) just created the universe? In seven days? And thats supposed to make more sense? Hm.
I've had first hand experience of this anyway. My ex, Kat, was a devout Christian, to the point that she "pitied" the fact I was going to hell because I didn't believe in God. She was stunningly hot and damned good in bed though lol
So, unless quickie vegas style wedding, she was going to hell too? lol
/\/\/\ some ya win, some ya loose...
kelbelle
19-04-09, 06:59 PM
I only had the one egg lol
I dont believe in hell but I do believe in karma defo. Is that the same thing you think?
Karma came round hard a fast for the people that were horrible at school lol
karma ishttp://img.verycd.com/posts/0509/post-330480-1127300191.jpg a funny thing
kelbelle
19-04-09, 07:24 PM
I once got overchanged by £5 at a bakery and flt so bad I didnt say anything that I went and spent it on cat and dog food and put it in the RSPCA bin at my supermarket :S
thats not karma. the rspca are on of the few charities that actually makes several million profit a year...
kelbelle
19-04-09, 07:32 PM
Well its not like they could have sold the food i gave them lol
blue_peg_16v
19-04-09, 08:17 PM
ant read all the way through this saloony but just a few thoughts that pop into my head
1. is she catholic if so be pripared of bambenos
2. does she beleive in sex before marrage
3. how fit is she is it realy work giving up sunday morning loving
4. is she jovo and if so does she expect you to chip in
5. is she muzlim and if so are her eye pritty cos if not what chance do you have with the rest she could be ginner or anything lol
/\/\/\ some ya win, some ya loose...
She was one of the few who definitely made it onto the win list, even with all the mentalness. I've had worse in my time! lol
I'm not religious at all and don't believe. Never been in a church, not been christened!
Saloony
19-04-09, 09:03 PM
Well what we've established is... some people have self help counselling groups... others have the church with the so called 'good book'.
And for the record out of all of them Johovahs are the scum of all of them and will feel my wrath.
blue_peg_16v
19-04-09, 09:10 PM
especialy if they are young fit and have a nice rack lol
Saloony
19-04-09, 09:57 PM
especialy if they are young fit and have a nice rack lol
Thats the thing mush, the Jovahs round here, they are fcuking bang tidy... real stunners, but only circle with there own.
blue_peg_16v
19-04-09, 10:03 PM
dont ya just hate webed feet
Saloony
19-04-09, 10:05 PM
Aye.... We should move them all to the Isle of Mann, they'll fit right in lol
blue_peg_16v
19-04-09, 10:10 PM
lol my step sisters are from there
Karma. Now theres another big pile of boll0cks.
Sh*t happens. Deal with it. The bank didn't remove your overdraft because you stuck your finger up at that old lady. They did it because they are a bunch of sausage bandits.
If karma existed, crack dealers would all be covered in bird poo and constantly falling over into big nettle bushes. In reality, they are all driving black BMW's and living in 6 bedroom houses which they paid for in cash, while single mums are in debt up to their eyeballs and being shafted by their mortgage lenders while they try to give their kids the best start they can in life.
All my opinion again by the way :)
You have had too much of my rep apparently Lee :( ^^^ legendary though lol
dj_wudgey
20-04-09, 01:10 AM
Thats the thing mush, the Jovahs round here, they are fcuking bang tidy... real stunners, but only circle with there own.
there are a few fit ones round near my mates up here lol
And for the record out of all of them Johovahs are the scum of all of them and will feel my wrath.
I used to go to school with a kid who's family were all devout Jehovah's witnesses.
I fcuked his sister. She had the best boobies I've ever seen (and done various other things with) :D
Tidy Max
20-04-09, 08:29 AM
i have the god delusion, is that the one by richard dawkins? i lso have another one but i cant remember what its called!
kelbelle
20-04-09, 09:59 AM
Yes it is by Richard Dawkins, I couldnt remember who it was at the time
robertdevlin69
20-04-09, 10:35 AM
lol
Oh dear, If i beileve in Harry Potter will he guild me thru life? Or make me a Wizard?
And to give moral support?lol
oh thats hilarious...........NOT
i dont use religion for personal issues etc but over here the percentage of people that go and worship christ and jesus is and will probablly always be higher than in GB it depends how your brought up and in what circumstances
boyle_46
20-04-09, 12:52 PM
I was cristined ( spelling ) a roman catholic but im by far a preaching one , im not too botherd on religion as ive grew up in a mixed town all my life , i have many protestant friends and we all get along regardless , as many of yous well know NI isnt the most religion friendly place but if you ask anyone from my generation or anyone with a bit of sense they couldnt care if you were catholic / protestant/muslim etc etc , thats just what i think of it Nath .
dj_wudgey
20-04-09, 01:49 PM
im suspost to be a christian like but erm noo lol
I was cristined ( spelling ) a roman catholic but im by far a preaching one , im not too botherd on religion as ive grew up in a mixed town all my life , i have many protestant friends and we all get along regardless , as many of yous well know NI isnt the most religion friendly place but if you ask anyone from my generation or anyone with a bit of sense they couldnt care if you were catholic / protestant/muslim etc etc , thats just what i think of it Nath .
yeah, but are they protestant muslims or catholic muslims???
dave.gsi
20-04-09, 06:54 PM
its all bollocks.........a myth made up in the olden times to control the masses (no police back then you see :thumb: )
scott.parker
20-04-09, 07:30 PM
its all bollocks.........a myth made up in the olden times to control the masses (no police back then you see :thumb: )
BANG ON! I got into a slightly heated discussion with my missus about this, as her mum's family are Christin's, though she's not nor is her Dad etc, she believes in it all, but i argued that if there was a "god" whys he so ****, as he keeps letting innocent children,people die on a daily basses etc, and then she touched on believing in Adam and eve! i lost it, i really let her have it, i said so even all these years on and you think all that research Darwin did was for nothing, and it's all fake? evolution is proven, i said theres only one thing i believe in, that science fact!
And yes we are still together even after that. lol
Ahh, but the Almighty is testing us with all this suffering...
If God existed, Barwell might not be on the map
my dad is so "agnostic" its almost at the point of being a fanatic, tis funny but fecking tedious at times. Quite amusing since his wife is uber methodist god bothery.
If God did create mankind, what kind of funked up moron must "he" have been to make it so an embryo grows with its spine OUTSIDE the body then "sucks it in" when its ready.... come on, even a child wouldnt think that was a good way to do things.
(no police back then you see :thumb: )
Ever heard of the Romans? They pretty much policed most of Europe for over 500 years, including the time of Jesus.
what have the romans ever done for us????
They invented orgies.
Nuff said.
what have the romans ever done for us????
The aqueduct.
to quote the late Benjamin Hill.
they're called orgies cos there's an odd number of people and the last person left says 'Aww... Gee.....'
Religion, police, managers at work... I stay away from all possible party-poopers and keep my sins relatively harmless.
As Lee said, religion is a great source of strength for a lot of people. I think if it's kept personal and not inflicted upon other people, there is no harm in it. There is no denying all the death and suffering caused by religion though.
Final thought: Vicars are peds.
They invented orgies.
Nuff said.
I'll invent an orgy, you're first on the list :p Then I'll show dar a real 'aquAduct' lol
If dougies there, make sure he shaves off his fungus :)
I'll invent an orgy, you're first on the list :p Then I'll show dar a real 'aquAduct' lol
So you DO leak then!!!!!!!!!!!
LMAO
Not leak, it'll be supposed to happen.
If dougies there, make sure he shaves off his fungus :)
He doesn't have a fungus face anymore, that was a winter thing :roll:
I've already asked him about this on several occasions and he gave a firm NO. So I suppose it's just us ;)
Well, you know what they say. If its dribbling out of her ears afterwards, your floor's level.
A firm no as opposed to a flaccid no?
LMAO
Not leak, it'll be supposed to happen.
http://www.destination360.com/north-america/us/wyoming/images/s/wyoming-old-faithful.jpg
Jack you can share :)
Lee, it's never a flaccid anything when I'm round.
Woohoo :D
Er, anyway. Back to religion. lol
Oh yeah, now where's your vicar's collar?
I believe that people who believe in god are naive, But i don't bother them about it and let them get on with it.
kelbelle
21-04-09, 06:21 PM
Evolution is not, in fact, 'proven'. It has been greatly discredited lately.
And I think it was the Greeks that invented orgies along with incest
dave.gsi
21-04-09, 06:33 PM
Evolution is not, in fact, 'proven'.
its been proven more than 'walking on water' has, or turning one fish and a loaf of bread into a meal for 5,000 people - thtas good enough for me!
dave.gsi
21-04-09, 06:34 PM
^spelling FIAL lol
I still maintain the "walking on water" thing was heat distortion in the desert.
As for the water into wine... ribena? lol could have watered down some wine.
Remember even as little as 50 years ago, people were amazed by things they didn't understand. 2000 years ago, you could have farted and people would have praised you as a God of Wind and Thunder.
Kelmel, info/links on evolution being discredited?
scott.parker
21-04-09, 08:28 PM
**** me, if there is no proof on this planet of evolution I'll happily eat my own cock with my Sunday roast!
Only anti evolution evidence I have ever seen is some sort of micro organism that moves with a strange little thing which is like an impeller pump in it's body, has something like 52 moving parts and there's no rational explanation as to how this could have evolved.
The evidence for though, i'm pretty sure is much more freely available lol
http://hitchhikers.wikia.com/wiki/Babel_Fish
"God refuses to prove that (S)He exists because proof denies faith and without faith God is nothing.
Man then counters that the Babel fish is a dead giveaway because it could not have evolved by chance. It therefore proves God exists, but by God's own arguments God does not exists.
God realizes (S)He hadn't thought of that and promptly disappears in a puff of logic."
awesomeness... although to be fair, you could replace Babelfish with pretty much anything on the planet, aside from Napalm_27 and Gaskell
...or turning one fish and a loaf of bread into a meal for 5,000 people...
Isn't that Jamie Oliver for those sainsbury ads?
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