MORE POWER

[mckel]

WHAT CAN I DO TO MY SRI NOVA FOR MORE POWER NO BUDGET JUST A LIST OF STUFF NEEDED BIG POWER MODS

[NovaNeil]

Twin Weber 40's
Turbo
Throttle Bodies
NOS
There you go, 4 of the Biggest. After that do something with the Internals.

[Chris LR]

Induction Kit, Exhaust - far easier!

[MC]

You're asking a silly question.

There are so many ways of gaining power that people in the know wont bother answering. Do some research, find examples of all the different styles of modifying, decide what you like the look of, then ask for advice on how to go about it.

MC

[Dicko]

if you decat and put an induction kit on to start off with that makes a hell of a difference :) sounds sweet aswell :)

[NovaNeil]

If you read the Question, he asks for "BIG POWER MODS" and "NO BUDGET"
Correct me if im wrong but the 4 Items listed are the biggest way of increasing the Power of that engine. The only other BIG power mod is a SuperCharger, but as there hasn't been one developed for this engine I left it out of the list.

[MC]

I could go into detail telling you every engine mod possible for that engine. The fact is that simply slapping the mods on you mention will be a waste of time. To make the most of any of them there is a whole route of engine tuning required. Carbs on there own will be crap, yet I could specify a whole route that will make them worth while. Are you telling me that just adding twin 40's is a big power mod?

To someone that sounds like they know little on the subject, only giving part of the advice is useless.

[MC]

mckel,

By far the best line of attack would be twin 40's on the 8valve engine.

If You could have 140bhp, and possibly over 150lbft of low down torque from your 1.4 engine, all with reliability and half decent fuel consumption, how much would you be willing to pay? This would be a rapid combination.

[neiloakley]

i agree totally with MC. I'm dropping a set of twin 45's on my 2.0 8v. Ripp of the injection system. And you get a rude induction noise. :lol:

[NovaNeil]

Sorry MC I didn't know you where so knowledgeable, funny how NOS doesn't need any other Mods, apart from cooler plugs. And yes 15-20bhp from JUST a set of Cards is a big power Mod in my opinion, considering I know an 1.4SR that kicks out 104bhp from just having them on. I don't know but i'd bet a decent set of throttle bodies wouldn't be far off this much power too. And as for the Turbo conversion, apart from some wiring changes, a spacer plate to lower the engine compression, reworked oil ways and an intercooler there isn't that much involved. And anyone who has one including myself will tell you they are certainly not a waste of time, and would P*SS all over that French piece of Crap (AKA that clio, which im assuming is yours).
And why the hell have you got a picture of that on a Nova website... Duhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!

[Will]

No offence nova neil dont go slagging people off when u dont know who you are talking to MC (mark) is a sound bloke, hes used to own a nova and knows a bloody lot abt the engines and tuning them, if u dont believe me go to the SR section and look for his old car, Breeny now has the engine that he had.

Also carbs 40's 45's or wotever on their own will add you power yes but u will be far from gettin the full gain from them, if you were to do head work, add a performance cam, manifold and full zorst system then the 40s wud combine with all these and work very well if set up porperly

104 bhp from just 40s on a 1.4 sr engine. so your telling me (assuming he had a mint engine) hes gained 32 bhp from 40s alone, rubbish total rubbish sorry.

I dont post often cause these qns have been asked many times, theres even a sticky on 1.4 8v tuning on the technical section, look b4 u ask most stuff has been asked in the past. do some of your own reserach the internet is very usefull, including this site!!

Right thats me done im outta here! :D

Will

[NovaNeil]

How much power did that SR put out MC?
Will did you read what MC wrote

"simply slapping the mods on you mention will be a waste of time"

How can S**T loads more Power be a waste of time?
MCKEL who posted the question asked a simple question and I gave him a simple answer. Then Mark comes along and riddicule's everything I said. Obviuosly theres a lot more to it than just what I said, theres lots of things you could consider and do.
And whats with that Bloody Clio?

[MC]

Hey guys,

Chill.

Thanks Novanutter for your words of support.

For starters, I don't own a clio, I did, but now I have a V6 4-motion. The reason I'm here is because I have a passion for Nova's. I have a huge amount of knowledge and experience on tuning them, and I have worked hard to become a respected moderator for the site. Anyway, that has little to do with the subject.

The 1.4 I had was producing 130bhp, and about 140lbft of torque. I built it myself, like the engine after that, and the one after that, an the.... you get the idea? The one I built that Breeny has, is in the region of 160bhp with a sed load more torque. Adding twin 40's alone with nothing else will reach about 90-100bhp. Not bad, but as you put in CAPS "BIG POWER MODS" I would say that is not. For a successful engine of any type, you'll have to do alot more than that. N2O is instant power, but useless for anything other than 1/4 mile racing, its not permanent power. As the guy said no budget, then getting equivelant power from permanent mods will be a better idea. If TCing a NA engine was so easy, more people would do it. I didn't rule it out, just said that there was more too it. You wont get big bhp without doing more than the bare min, just like with carbs. Carbs are good, but aren't used properly unless the rest of the induction route is sorted. You can get more power from internal engine mods than just adding carbs.

I'm always willing to help, but I've been doing this for a long time, and its far easier if people come to you with researched questions. I'll help anyone.

Now, I appologise if sounded aggressive.

MC

[blaiz]

sory, i neva get involvd in these litle heated discussions, but i js wana say how wel MC handled it!! if a newbie came 2 me wiv all that, +i had the knowledge of MC, id flip!!

MC definatley respectd

sorry, js hada say it

[Slatter]

Ive gotta agree with mc etc on this one. I have "bolted on a set of twin 40's to my standard 1.3sr engine. It went to 84 bhp. Only an 14bhp increase. This is wot i was thinking it would be. not 100 +, no way ever.

In my opionion sayin. CARBS , TURBO, TB, or NOS is lacking depth of infomation.

It is a good starting place. But as MC has said alot more power can be gained from work on the inteernals of the engine.

Such as ........

Overbores,
Bore Honing
Crank being reground and Balanced
Rods and pistons balanced
Flywheel lightened and balanced

Basically A blue printed engine ( eveything balanced with each other)

Then the possible head work is almost endless

Ported Poilished
Bigger Valves
3 angle valve seats
skimmed

etc
etc

This with 40's added etc would considerably benifit the efficiency of the engine.

Hope this helps

I know wot i have written is obvious to alot of people but i know some people really dont know how much power can be got out of doing all this and more.

But be aware..

It costs alot !! ??????????????????????????????????

[NovaNeil]

Fair play MC, I apologise too. I didn't realise you had so much experience and I thought you were just trying to down what I said. Sorry Everyone, this Guy is sound, and your articles on 1.2 and 1.4 tuning are top.
Keep up the good work.

[MC]

Cheers,

Hey, I'm not perfect, I know alot, but far from everything. As a whole community of Nova owners, everyone has something to contribute, and we all learn from each other. Everyones comments are important, and nobody is superior. I did not intend to give that impression.

This is how all disscussions should end, mutual respect and politeness.

MC