whats the best engine for a track day car?

[corsa-xe1]

whats the best engine for a track day car? its for a stripped out corsa!!

1.6 16v

1.6 8v

2.0 8v

2.0 16v xe

any ideas ppl?

[Benn]

What ever the drive has fitted. Everyones different.

[Mike]

Depends on what your looking to get back from the car, and what budget youve realistically got.

[napalm_27]

baby xe

[dj_wudgey]

as said again it depends what your really wanting!!

[Mike]

baby xe

I would have said big block XE everytime TBH, same price if not cheaper then its smaller brother, yet more power, easy as fook to get parts, just as easy to repair, well proven & well used in many marques!!

[chimp007_uk]

1600 8v ;)

[napalm_27]

iv got a pure bargain
its free if you come and get it lol
12NT FTW! lol :thumb:

[BIGS]

big block xe everytime

[corsa-xe1]

well i have 3 xe's in bits as i keep blowing them up!!

so dont know if i should just rebuild or go with a 2.0 8v lump?

[Benn]

well i have 3 xe's in bits as i keep blowing them up!!

so dont know if i should just rebuild or go with a 2.0 8v lump?

What are you doing to them to "blow them up"?

[Mike]

Downgrading never got the human race anywhere, why start now?

[Count Vaux Alot]

I would have said big block XE everytime TBH, same price if not cheaper then its smaller brother, yet more power, easy as fook to get parts, just as easy to repair, well proven & well used in many marques!!

:thumb: :thumb:

[mowgli]

to be honest, when the corsa b was launched, & i was driving a new 1.2 on 145 tyres (rental car saturday job), that it was an absolute hoot, all 4 wheel drift & tyre squeal on the corners.... the whole point of a track day is to have fun... so why make a high powered monster if it is no fun??

[napalm_27]

you really cant be doing much right if youve blown 3 up

its not a hgv you cant put them back into first for more pulling power! lol

[Mike]

:thumb: :thumb:

True though isnt it lol only reason I have a 1600 8v at the mo is a) prove that home built turbo conversions can be wickend & b) Im a tight kunt, Im not paying a premium price for a pair of "off the shelf" drive shafts lol lol

[corsa-xe1]

lol i think i will rebuild the xe!!

anyone have a spare coilpack head????


i just drive like a dick and use the limiter too much :(

[Mike]

i just drive like a dick and use the limiter too much :(

Well if you know this, why continue doing it????

[napalm_27]

lol i think i will rebuild the xe!!

anyone have a spare coilpack head????


i just drive like a dick and use the limiter too much :(

i will say this before others
you do not belong here
or
behind the wheel of a vauxhall!

driving off the limiter doesnt make the car go faster
the only fast thing about it is the engine going bang!

[Count Vaux Alot]

i just drive like a dick and use the limiter too much :(

There is the problem then.....lol

[Count Vaux Alot]

True though isnt it

Very true

[Benn]

Limiters there tho to stop you damaging it.
Service it and you shouldnt really have a prob. How offen do you change the oil?

[Dar]

Fit ARP rod bolts to the new engine and you should be fine.

[Count Vaux Alot]

Fit ARP rod bolts to the new engine and don't drive like a dick and you should be fine.
:thumb:

[corsa-xe1]

lol i will be fitting apr's and not using the limiter!! lol

i change oil every month, about 500 miles!!

[napalm_27]

you arnt letting the oil do its magic then really
bit of a waste in my opinion

[mowgli]

True though isnt it lol only reason I have a 1600 8v at the mo is a) prove that home built turbo conversions can be wickend & b) Im a tight kunt, Im not paying a premium price for a pair of "off the shelf" drive shafts lol lol

mike, i've always had a nagging feeling that if you got inner cv joints of the same make for the big block & small block shafts, & then stripped them down, the inner splined collars would be interchangeable & then suddenly the whole 22 spline thing goes out the window & shafts get cheaper to modify.

[corsa-xe1]

well thats your opinion mate!!!

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[Count Vaux Alot]

good theory Mowgli...

[corsa-xe1]

lol

[napalm_27]

*'runs off to strip lots of driveshafts and cv's lol'*

[mowgli]

to make a cheap rev limiter, drill a 12mm hole thru the floor under the accelerator & get a m12 x 100 set screw (bolt threaded all the way), 2 nuts & 2 washers, then adjust it so you can't make excessive throttle movements. long life engine for £1.50

[corsa-xe1]

lmao will bare that in mind!! thanks

[napalm_27]

its like goin karting when your a kid lmao
right hold on iv got to adjust the accelerator restictor lol

[Southie]

to make a cheap rev limiter, drill a 12mm hole thru the floor under the accelerator & get a m12 x 100 set screw (bolt threaded all the way), 2 nuts & 2 washers, then adjust it so you can't make excessive throttle movements. long life engine for £1.50
Genius or do what I do and blame your (as in mine) parents, for creating someone who's too short to reach the pedals and I never "reach" the limiter lol

[corsa-xe1]

lol your a funny boy!!

[mowgli]

they used to factory fit them to lorries & call them governors..... my dad used to wind his on a bit... then proper speed limiters came along.

[mowgli]

Genius or do what I do and blame your (as in mine) parents, for creating someone who's too short to reach the pedals and I never "reach" the limiter lol

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[Adam]

You can have plenty of fun on track with ANY of those engines tbh.
My old 120hp 1.6 16v was a right laugh on track and passed quite a few quicker cars!!!!!

Plus hitting the limiter wont destroy the engine, the limiter is a safe rev cut....
On track you are near the limiter with pretty much EVERY gear change!


But for power&torque vs cost, you cant beat a 2000 16v.

[corsa-xe1]

will just stick with the redtop then!!

i had a c14se track day car and that was fun, just need more power lol

[Southie]

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lol lol lol

[Dirtydog1]

True though isnt it lol only reason I have a 1600 8v at the mo is a) prove that home built turbo conversions can be wickend & b) Im a tight kunt, Im not paying a premium price for a pair of "off the shelf" drive shafts lol lol

1600 8v turbo all the way with 1200 drive shafts! :thumb: awsome engine and a delight to work on imo!

[Ernie]

Mine spent nearly a hole track day against the limiter and mine is set at 7.700 rpm's
2ltr xe all the way.

[corsa-xe1]

lol chris you havent got a spare xe head laying about have you?

[muzzy]

2.0 XE - decent power for not alot of money

[Ernie]

lol chris you havent got a spare xe head laying about have you?

Na sorry mate.
As Dar said fit some arp rod bolts will help out no end.

[Stuart]

i will say this before others
you do not belong here
or
behind the wheel of a vauxhall!

driving off the limiter doesnt make the car go faster
the only fast thing about it is the engine going bang!


to be honest, he just sounds like an overly keen driver who needs to learn a bit of mechanical sympathy... as opposed to an utter tool like yourself :p

[Sloth]

i've battered engines off the limiter from cold, and seriously abused a fair few xe's and 8v 2.0's. i've never had an issue. i'd say whang a 20seh in it for a giggle whilst you build a decent xe. you'll be suprised matey....

[Pistol Pete]

Alot of trackday/fast road cars have XE's in them.....that should tell you something.

[Sloth]

yeah, thats as maybe, but theres cheaper alternatives, which can be fun. its not all about speed, a 20seh and f16cr in a nova is bloody quick. either that or an ecotec 2.0...

[Stuart]

Mowgli had it right about the 1.2 on skinny tyres :)

if you get out giggling like a child then the car is perfect

[corsa-xe1]

i have a spare 2.0 ecotec in my shed but its alot of wiring etc to fit it!!

[Sloth]

its not that much. if you have it, use the bugger. whats it from?

[dj_wudgey]

f*ck it go for the xe dude!!

[L14MNP]

i've battered engines off the limiter from cold http://blog.garethjmsaunders.co.uk/wp-content/20070928_halford02halfords.jpg
http://thefuntimesguide.com/images/blogs/fantasy-carnival-cruise-ship.jpg
Yeaahhhhh buoy

[draper]

whatever you can afford to replace/blow up imo

[bai1ey]

2.0 8v all the way lasted the test of time and i dont hear of meny going wrong plus thay are a bit lighter then the c20xe. so maybe a bit better handling with the right setup. then again trackdaynova's was Shi* hot in the vids i have seen. so like people have said at the end of the day it is up to you.

[Sloth]

http://blog.garethjmsaunders.co.uk/wp-content/20070928_halford02halfords.jpg
http://thefuntimesguide.com/images/blogs/fantasy-carnival-cruise-ship.jpg
Yeaahhhhh buoy

cheeky git!! hows the primera? i'll catch ya on msn later dude!

[L14MNP]

haha All is well matey. Should be in the new unit in about a week, then will roll it on it's side, stitch weld and paint. Get working on your Cav!

[corsa-xe1]

the ecotec is from a vectra, i will stick with the xe, just rebuild her with apr's etc

[L14MNP]

^ Dude, you gotta start calling them ARP rod bolts or you'll never find any on the bay. lol

Good plan BTW.

[corsa-xe1]

lol yer thats what i meant!!