View Full Version : who's got the lightest Nova?
had mine weighed today which got me thinking about more weight saving. Just wondered whats acheivable.
I'll start the ball rolling, mine weighed 740kg today.
ste
On here, DHDev (oli) afaik, 640 iirc.
640kg!! blimey thats light. hows he managed that then?
okay then, copy and paste
1. 640kg - dhdev
2. 740kg - stevei
Check his WIP thread.
F/g wings/boot/bonnet etc, hole sawed most of the car.... lol
Small block etc etc
Whats the spec of yours? What engine?
that is a light car at 640 lol
i thought the other day, does anyone ever take in to account the paint on the car, may sound stupid but i bought some wings and they had 9 layers of paint on, surely this adds some weight lol.
i think every racer should just strip their cars and laquer them
heres my project thread http://www.pngclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=104701
I'm needing some fibreglass panels:)
that is a light car at 640 lol
i thought the other day, does anyone ever take in to account the paint on the car, may sound stupid but i bought some wings and they had 9 layers of paint on, surely this adds some weight lol.
i think every racer should just strip their cars and laquer them
i have heard of grasser lads burening shells to strip em as far as poss, then using watered down paint.
dj_wudgey
18-03-09, 08:33 PM
ive only striped seats spare wheel all the tar crap (which was only in the front footwells off the sr) off the floor my buckets may also be lighter than standard sr seats not much petrol and mine was 740kgs
just spent the last hour reading dhdev's wip. i've got more light ideas:thumb:
i have heard of grasser lads burening shells to strip em as far as poss, then using watered down paint.
I know alot of them get them blasted, but never heard of them burning the shells !!
I can imagine a lot of them just giving them a light coating of paint as well, lightweight fixings, skinning panels ect ...
I'm in the middle of building a Class 6 Autograss Nova, not a lot left of it once you get the grinder going !!
I'm reckoning that should be under 600kg ? its gotta have a fair cage in it tho, just cheapo seamed tube so could've saved a bit of weight on that, on a budget tho so the cheaper the better !!
yeh another thing i thought, instead of welding all the way round, just weld like two patches less weight?
Mine.
Its has half an engine, no wheels, no seats/belts, no calipers or disc's, no fluid in at all.
jimbob-mcgrew
18-03-09, 09:34 PM
i think every racer should just strip their cars and laquer them
lol ^ laquer'd steel... extreme... i like
novaboyopr
18-03-09, 10:20 PM
havnt got mine wieghed yet but brought some new lightwieght goodies and the grider may come out once more lol will update hopefully in a few weeks.
t45_ste
18-03-09, 10:25 PM
Im aiming for 600 :D
Count Vaux Alot
18-03-09, 10:25 PM
On here, DHDev (oli) afaik, 640 iirc.
Yer at the moment......lol
Count Vaux Alot
18-03-09, 10:26 PM
Im aiming for 600 :D
Really....i thought it would weigh less :confused:
mine was 680 with a redtop when teh last lads built it i am aiming for not much more then that
I wonder what i will get mine down to. Probley not under 700 with 2.2 and 6speed. or could i :confused:
djbrowney
18-03-09, 10:45 PM
mine was 680 with a redtop when teh last lads built it i am aiming for not much more then that
as said above the green nova weighed 680 kg
the rear end was awsome for moving about, 'just lift that on top of the axel stand please mate' lol
t45_ste
18-03-09, 10:54 PM
Really....i thought it would weigh less :confused:
I would be happy with 600kg, obviously lighter the better but certain things like the gearbox, calipers, bigger wheels etc all weigh more than what people usually use.
Im looking at other things as well that will technically make the car heavier........ BUT will make it peform better. :cool: :D
Colin? http://www.pngclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=105624 - 600KG?
t45_ste
18-03-09, 11:23 PM
Did colin not sell that nova?
His current nova is 490kg without the engine and box :thumb:
Believe so.. christ thats light, do you know what he's fitting? I seem to remember he had a high spec x14XE.
t45_ste
18-03-09, 11:27 PM
20xe with f20 i think.
novarally
19-03-09, 08:24 AM
Did colin not sell that nova?
His current nova is 490kg without the engine and box :thumb:
Yes, I did sell that hillclimb/sprint Nova - it's now living in Ireland.
My current Nova (the red, wide-arched one) weighed 625kg with a 1400 XE in it. That is using fibreglass roof, full roll cage, spaceframed rear end, carbon fibre doors, bonnet and tailgate, as well as an aluminium floorpan and magnesium wheels (but still in road legal trim).
You're not going to get a Nova much under 600kg, unless you go down the spaceframe and composite body route.
Andrew Bradley's current 993cc turbo is the lightest Nova I am aware of, I'd have to dig out the numbers, but I believe it was around 550kg. Andrew built that with a one-off T45 cage, 13" wheels, small brakes, and a serious amount of skilled fabrication. And of course it's nowhere approaching road legal.
I have a set of digital corner weight scales, if anyone wants their Nova's weight checked.........
I have a set of digital corner weight scales, if anyone wants their Nova's weight checked.........
Just imagine a line of Nova's waiting to get in the farm to get there weight checked.
Could offer a free weight check with every purchase Colin!
Just out of curiosity how much did your Escort weigh?
craig green
19-03-09, 01:06 PM
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Andrew Bradley's current 993cc turbo is the lightest Nova I am aware of, I'd have to dig out the numbers, but I believe it was around 550kg. Andrew built that with a one-off T45 cage, 13" wheels, small brakes, and a serious amount of skilled fabrication. And of course it's nowhere approaching road legal.
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One of my alltime favourite Novas yet I've seen so little/know so little about it. :(
novarally
19-03-09, 07:03 PM
Just out of curiosity how much did your Escort weigh?
Last season 1070kg, this year it should be under 1050kg, thanks to a series of small losses.
I haven't finished bolting it back together yet, but when it's done, I will weigh it again.
It's very light for a 4WD. And should have approaching 550bhp when the new turbo goes on soon.
Is it green by any chance? I think I saw it at Gurston Hillclimb last year. Had a little off moment?
mine weighs 740kgs :)
completely standard lol
novarally
19-03-09, 08:27 PM
Is it green by any chance? I think I saw it at Gurston Hillclimb last year. Had a little off moment?
It's white and green, and I did have a slight excursion at Gurston last year, which was captured for eternity on Motors TV...
i have heard of a shilouette racer saloon weighing 435kg. how true it is i dont know. my mate who autograsses told me. bike engined apparently.
It's white and green, and I did have a slight excursion at Gurston last year, which was captured for eternity on Motors TV...
only ever seen one pic of the escort, Got any more you could post up ? or a project thread somewhere ?
Fingers crossed mine will be about 850kgs
I should know in a couple off weeks when i get it on the skales
novarally
19-03-09, 10:29 PM
only ever seen one pic of the escort, Got any more you could post up ? or a project thread somewhere ?
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll66/hillclimbescort/0082.jpg
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll66/hillclimbescort/0093.jpg
These photos are a bit out of date now, but the Escort's in bits right now, so I can't get any up to date ones until it's finished.
I do plan to do a Project thread on it when I get time.
I thought you escort was LHD Colin?
That was his old shell iirc or his spare one lol
novarally
19-03-09, 10:52 PM
I thought you escort was LHD Colin?
The previous one was LHD, unfortunately this is what happened to it in November 2007;
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll66/hillclimbescort/0092.jpg
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll66/hillclimbescort/0112.jpg
It caught fire whilst I was testing it at a track, and burnt uncontrollably until the Fire Brigade arrived. Only the gearbox was salvaged from the wreckage, and I bought the white and green Escort to replace it.
Sorry to rub salt in the wounds as i too would be very bitter but wasnt it a fire that killed off the B11OVA?
novarally
19-03-09, 10:59 PM
Sorry to rub salt in the wounds as i too would be very bitter but wasnt it a fire that killed off the B11OVA?
No, B11 OVA got broken up and sold off in pieces.
The Escort was the first, and hopefully the last time I experience a car fire. It went up so fast I barely had time to get out of it. And seeing many hundreds of hours development, and a whole lot of money go up in flames was not a nice experience.
Wow didnt know that, im sure you had two shells when i came to yours for some bits before and one was lhd but wow that must have been so wounding!!
novarally
19-03-09, 11:04 PM
Wow didnt know that, im sure you had two shells when i came to yours for some bits before and one was lhd but wow that must have been so wounding!!
I did have a few Escort Cosworth shells sat around, as I was planning to build another one from scratch, but then a suitable complete car came up for sale at a decent price, and I bought that instead.
Ahh fair play i was gonna say cos i remember an lhd shell with full cage sat in your garage and another sat outside aswell or vice versa was a while ago now lol
Wow colin! Insurance pay out?
novarally
19-03-09, 11:10 PM
Wow colin! Insurance pay out?
Eventually, yes. If it hadn't, it would have been the end of my racing for a very long time.
Fortunately the insurance was arranged by me when I was working for the insurance company, so I was able to harass all the right people to get it sorted out!
Lucky mofo, right contacts at the right time then, not bad bud and good forward thinking!
The Escort was the first, and hopefully the last time I experience a car fire. It went up so fast I barely had time to get out of it. And seeing many hundreds of hours development, and a whole lot of money go up in flames was not a nice experience.
Did you get to find out what the cause was? I was going to say it must have been quite an intense fire as like you said first off there are fire crews at the tracks and they dont normally hang about, so for it to go like that in a short space of time must have been devastating.
spanishfly
20-03-09, 09:31 AM
Flip after seeing that Colin I realise how lucky I was! They do go up quick though!
novarally
20-03-09, 09:37 AM
Did you get to find out what the cause was? I was going to say it must have been quite an intense fire as like you said first off there are fire crews at the tracks and they dont normally hang about, so for it to go like that in a short space of time must have been devastating.
The fire started somewhere around the fuel rail, we'll never know for sure but it seems likely that the rail or a union on the fuel pipe fractured and sprayed fuel all over the red-hot engine bay. Unfortunately I had filled the tank full of fuel only a few laps earlier. Most of the panels on the car were carbon fibre, and the wheels were magnesium, so it didn't take long to get up. I was testing miles from anywhere, and the Fire truck got there within 10 minutes, which was incredible, but it was too late to save it.
spanishfly
20-03-09, 05:43 PM
I was in York when mine went up and it took 10 mins! If it happened in London outside the station it'll take 20mins lol
Fook mo Colin, always wondered what happened to the LHD'er you had.
Lokoing at those pics, is that the remains of an ATL fuel cell in the back??
novarally
20-03-09, 06:34 PM
Lokoing at those pics, is that the remains of an ATL fuel cell in the back??
Yes, the fuel cell was in an alloy box where the rear seat would be normally.
doug_sri
21-03-09, 04:01 AM
Anyone know the weight of a standard nova 1.4 SR (1989)? Im sure it says on the car but I am 100 miles away from the car and anyone care to take a guess at what mine weighs now? I should really try and get it weighed one day.
Its got a c20let with f28, quaife diff, full roll cage, comp mos, dash still in and inside just two bucket seats and harnesses. I thought around 1100kg but seeing people with such low weights im really unsure now.
novarally
21-03-09, 09:17 AM
Anyone know the weight of a standard nova 1.4 SR (1989)? Im sure it says on the car but I am 100 miles away from the car and anyone care to take a guess at what mine weighs now? I should really try and get it weighed one day.
Its got a c20let with f28, quaife diff, full roll cage, comp mos, dash still in and inside just two bucket seats and harnesses. I thought around 1100kg but seeing people with such low weights im really unsure now.
The SR models are 770kg.
I would have thought you'd be around 850kg with your spec.
Yes, the fuel cell was in an alloy box where the rear seat would be normally.
Jesus, theres nothing left of the alloy box you mentioned! For a fire to rip through a car that quick, that must have been some bloody heat!! Once the fuel cell is purged, as your probably aware, game over car :cry:
Was that a works shell Colin? Or just an imported LHD shell?
novarally
21-03-09, 11:17 AM
Was that a works shell Colin? Or just an imported LHD shell?
Tragically it was an ex-works car, it had been driven by McRae, Sainz and Delecour. That made the whole thing a lot worse, all that history destroyed.
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