E16SE engine loom help!

[tom_bish]

Hi i've got 2 sets of wires on my E16SE engine loom and i'm not sure what they are for

Here is a pic..

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i74/tom_bish/random/SDC10233.jpg

The colours are as follows:

set 1 - Blue & Green/Brown
set 2 - Brown & Green/Brown

Any help would be much appreciated. Tom

[brainsnova]

a guess. they are the front brake pad warning lamp wires or the abs sensors. but burgo will correct me.

[Sloth]

on an e16se? abs? hmmm where ddo they go to, and where from?

[tom_bish]

They come directly off the engine loom

I had a guess myself as there were only 2 other places they could go and i used the engine loom for the C14 i took out to match up wire colours and try and work it out.

I guessed at this..

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i74/tom_bish/random/SDC10237.jpg

Not sure what this does but i have one on my XE loom in my astra so i guessed it's needed.

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i74/tom_bish/random/SDC10239.jpg

I took these 2 wires to the 2 pin plug on the back of the block. However if this is unplugged the car still runs!??

[Mike]

The brown plug is the octane plug, yes it is needed.
The black plug looks like the one that connects to the dizzy housing underside.

[burgo]

a guess. they are the front brake pad warning lamp wires or the abs sensors. but burgo will correct me.you bin on that crack again or what????.

let me go get me haynes

[burgo]

no wonder im funking confused. c14se and e16se management is completely different. for a start you dont even have a ron plug on you and the plug youve put on the other two is wrong aswell!!

the blue green wire goes to the oil pressure sensor i think. what are the colour of the other two wires

ill go have a look at one of my spare looms

[burgo]

right bish try and keep up.

you first need these two plugs (pm me if you dont have them)
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a226/sclurgess/general%20pics/S7302618.jpg

right the blue and brown/green wires go down to the oil temp switch downy by the crank pulley

the two browns go to this sensor on the bottom right of the inlet manifold
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f107/xxspudxx/24012009493-2.jpg (http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f107/xxspudxx/24012009493-2.jpg)

[tom_bish]

Ok thanks for the help

Is the oil temp switch located on the back of the block?? If so i've got that one correct (my plug must be slightly different)

I thought the other 2 wires might have to go to that sensor. It's missing on my engine so i'm in the process of getting hold of one.

I take it that octane plug is not needed then?

[burgo]

e16se's dont have a ron plug. oil temp switch is on the back of the block down by the crank pulley

[tom_bish]

Ok thanks matey

[Mike]

e16se's dont have a ron plug.

Mine does/did?

[gazsnova]

Mine does/did?

yeah all 3 looms that i have, have ron plugs.

[mowgli]

I thought early e16se ran bosch, and the later ones ran siemens

[gazsnova]

I thought early e16se ran bosch, and the later ones ran siemens
correct!

[tom_bish]

right thats caused some confusion

Do i need the ron plug then? I've got the bosch loom.

[gazjoiner]

hi mate, the bosch jetronic efi E16se engine did not have a ron plug, the later c16se did

[tom_bish]

Ok cheers

I'm fairly new to all this and just trying to get my head round everything

My engine has E16SE stamped on the block. runs a dizzy and has a later style rocker cover (not the one found on GTE's)

Does it matter which engine loom i use? I'm currently running the bosch loom with the round type coil.

The engine runs fine although the idle is sometimes a bit high on start up. It hasn't been properly ran for a year since a minor rebuild so i'm thinking it might just need a good run.

[Mike]

hi mate, the bosch jetronic efi E16se engine did not have a ron plug, the later c16se did

Yes they did.

[gazjoiner]

Yes they did.

not many! my f reg 1989 E16SE gte did not have a ron plug mike, it was used only on cat equiped vehicles :p

[Mike]

not many! my f reg 1989 E16SE gte did not have a ron plug mike, it was used only on cat equiped vehicles :p

Ive got an '89 E16 in my Spin shell, that had a RON plug, so did my spare loom, and the loom I bought last night has a RON plug.

Whats with the smily sticky out tongue? I dont have a cat on mine, so no, you havn't "got one up" on me either.

[gazjoiner]

right thats caused some confusion

Do i need the ron plug then? I've got the bosch loom.

what year is the car mate?

[gazjoiner]

Ive got an '89 E16 in my Spin shell, that had a RON plug, so did my spare loom, and the loom I bought last night has a RON plug.

Whats with the smily sticky out tongue? I dont have a cat on mine, so no, you havn't "got one up" on me either.

im not trying to "get one up" on you mike! just saying what i know of the e16se i had, which was a non cat car, with origanal loom, engine ect, that is all..

[burgo]

ok then bosch dont siemens obviously do but being as the majority are bosch set up just go with they dont lol

[gazjoiner]

ok then bosch dont siemens obviously do but being as the majority are bosch set up just go with they dont lol

thats what i was trying to get at burgo lol

[tom_bish]

The car was originally an SRI first registered in 93

Am i right in thinking it will need a CAT for the MOT? (I've got an ashley de-cat system on the car at the mo) and should i be using a siemens engine loom with a ron plug.

:confused:

[craig green]

Shouldnt need a cat if you can prove where & what car the engine came from.

[burgo]

The car was originally an SRI first registered in 93

Am i right in thinking it will need a CAT for the MOT? (I've got an ashley de-cat system on the car at the mo) and should i be using a siemens engine loom with a ron plug.

:confused:doesnt matter if you use siemens or bosch

[tom_bish]

Ok sorted thanks