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Mike
06-03-09, 09:37 PM
Trumpets.

16xe_chris
06-03-09, 09:40 PM
BURGO FTW lol

dave.gsi
06-03-09, 09:44 PM
No, its used to minimise moderation. If a post is valid yet breaches the rules, we may edit the post instead of remove it, OR if removal of a post will cause muchos confusion its easier just to edit it.



ok. i do understand that, i also see that stuart is remaining pretty silent here, the only reason hes come out with as to why he changed a post is 'sarcasm'.....for his own personal pleasure......to me thats all just a bit wrong. i don't have a problem with the powers admin have, just how they are so easily abused and unchecked

dave.gsi
06-03-09, 09:46 PM
BURGO FTW lol

burgo FT B(an) apparently, must have missed that one :tard:

Lee
06-03-09, 09:52 PM
before you do though, explain to me why mods/admin have the power to edit a post, rather than just deleting it?

what do you gain from that?.....do you go through peoples posts and correct the spelling for them?.....no, its purely there for your own amusement
Thats EXACTLY why its there. I beat my meat every night whilst adjusting peoples threads.

Dave, seriously, you are starting to sound like one of these blokes who is an asshole to his girlfriend so she will leave him rather than having the balls to do it themselves.

You wont be banned for calling us nazi's or accusing us of playing with ourselves from all the moderation power we have, all that will happen is you will either decide to enjoy the club whilst keeping your blood pressure at a reasonable level, OR being unable to stand it and leave. Thats your choice. Slothsport had the same choice, and appears to have chosen the first option seeing as he is still posting.

If you dont like it, bugger off. End of. Case closed. Move on. If you think you can just about live with it, im sure you will be a valuable asset to the forum.

Mike
06-03-09, 09:57 PM
Bring on the Trumpets...

dave.gsi
06-03-09, 09:58 PM
Bring on the Trumpets...

is that not spam? ^^

Lee
06-03-09, 09:59 PM
No, Mike is a friend of mine, therefore is immune to moderation.

Mike
06-03-09, 10:01 PM
No, Mike is a friend of mine, therefore is immune to moderation.

Oh why thank you sweetheart :D

I am just bored at home alone as my missus is out on the pish....again......but what she doesnt know is theres an ice cold bucket of water waiting ontop of the bathroom door frame just for her........

dave.gsi
06-03-09, 10:04 PM
Thats EXACTLY why its there. I beat my meat every night whilst adjusting peoples threads.

Dave, seriously, you are starting to sound like one of these blokes who is an asshole to his girlfriend so she will leave him rather than having the balls to do it themselves.

You wont be banned for calling us nazi's or accusing us of playing with ourselves from all the moderation power we have, all that will happen is you will either decide to enjoy the club whilst keeping your blood pressure at a reasonable level, OR being unable to stand it and leave. Thats your choice. Slothsport had the same choice, and appears to have chosen the first option seeing as he is still posting.

If you dont like it, bugger off. End of. Case closed. Move on. If you think you can just about live with it, im sure you will be a valuable asset to the forum.

i can enjoy the forum for its good points (which it has many), thats why i'm still here after 7 years even though i don't have a nova at the moment, i still like it here, i was just questioning some things which i thought were unfair......the last thing this place needs is a club full of sheep too scared to open their mouths for fear of being silenced

dave.gsi
06-03-09, 10:08 PM
No, Mike is a friend of mine, therefore is immune to moderation.

i know you're joking but to be honest that does actually say a lot..........if that was a noob saying 'i love your mum' it would have been deleted/edited/banned....surely thats the 'clique' in action? people not being treated equally?

Lee
06-03-09, 10:08 PM
Thats my problem with your point Dave, give me one example where someone has been silenced for speaking their mind? What normally happens is someone speaks their mind, someone decides to dissagree with their point, and then the OP decides abuse is the best way to put their point accross. This is why this thread is still here, because YOU can carry out a sensible conversation without calling anyone a sh*t eating co*k muncher.

I do appreciate your point Dave, but you still have not provided me with any evidence of nazi goings on?

Mike
06-03-09, 10:10 PM
.the last thing this place needs is a club full of sheep too scared to open their mouths for fear of being silenced

Fair point David.

I take society as it comes personally. If I think some ones a @unt, then, ill tell them. Hell Im not on for discrimination, Id rather tell some one then keep it stum (not implying your a @unt, far from it actually, just generally saying) but there will always be people who will follow the masses (XE, GSi kit, Speedlines) and there will always be annoying fcuks like my good self that make there own path to places, wether others like it or not.

I think Lee and all the PNG admin know the aforementioned (own path an all that) but have to treat everyone as an eqaul to an extenet or something like that I dont know its late in the evening and im tired, hungry, hot and generally CBA to think properly but you get the idea.

dave.gsi
06-03-09, 10:12 PM
( edit..to lee) i have....stuart changing someones post......all (the user) wrote was 'this place is full of censorship'...........which stu changed/edited/hacked, not for the benefit of the forum or to correct a mistake.....but for fun, so his mates on the forum would laugh

thats wrong, no matter how you look at it

Lee
06-03-09, 10:13 PM
i know you're joking but to be honest that does actually say a lot..........if that was a noob saying 'i love your mum' it would have been deleted/edited/banned....surely thats the 'clique' in action? people not being treated equally?

No, its about knowing where to draw the line. We dont delete the odd random post in a thread, its normally when said post drags others off topic. Mike was expressing the fact the thread was going nowhere. He kind of has a point.

Sloth
06-03-09, 10:13 PM
my post at the beginning of the thread lee.....

Lee
06-03-09, 10:16 PM
i have....stuart changing someones post......all (the user) wrote was 'this place is full of censorship'...........which stu changed/edited/hacked, not for the benefit of the forum or to correct a mistake.....but for fun, so his mates on the forum would laugh

that wrong, no matter how you look at it
And he has promised to never do it again. Stuart's never been very good at detecting who has a sense of humour and who doesnt, and from now on, he wont be taking the risk.

Pistol Pete
06-03-09, 10:17 PM
im gona shut up and duck step to our great fuhrer stu!

What did it originally say then?

Spudly
06-03-09, 10:19 PM
And he has promised to never do it again. Stuart's never been very good at detecting who has a sene of humour and who doesnt, and from now on, he wont be taking the risk.


But therin lies another downer, the total lack of sense of humour in our society which is going to end up in png losing the atmosphere thats drawn in and kept many members over so many years!:eek:

Sloth
06-03-09, 10:19 PM
i warned dave not to annoy admin and said that theyll ban or change his post.

Dod
06-03-09, 10:19 PM
BRING ON THE TRUMPETS!!! HA HA HA HA!!!
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3230/2956418356_d3eceaee3d.jpg

dave.gsi
06-03-09, 10:20 PM
And he has promised to never do it again. Stuart's never been very good at detecting who has a sense of humour and who doesnt, and from now on, he wont be taking the risk.

is that some sort of half arsed apology or admission that hes actually done something wrong.......or just another sarcastic joke for the png clique to laugh at?:roll:

Spudly
06-03-09, 10:21 PM
There aint a conspiracy here bud so stop looking for one!

Mike
06-03-09, 10:21 PM
But therin lies another downer, the total lack of sense of humour in our society which is going to end up in png losing the atmosphere thats drawn in and kept many members over so many years!:eek:

A lot of poeple take to heart whats said..... why i dont know.

Hell, Spudly your a cnut. If I openely said that, all hell would break lose, why I dont know? Some people just cant take being talked down to/bad mouthed etc so invetibly they flip, get banned or generally made a fool off. So, in relaity its there own doing as they simply cant take it like a grown up.

BTW Spud, your not a @unt it was just a generic example so dont take it to heart old bean.

dave.gsi
06-03-09, 10:22 PM
i warned dave not to annoy admin and said that theyll ban or change his post.

no ones changed my post as far as im aware?!

Spudly
06-03-09, 10:23 PM
A lot of poeple take to heart whats said..... why i dont know.

Hell, Spudly your a cnut. If I openely said that, all hell would break lose, why I dont know? Some people just cant take being talked down to/bad mouthed etc so invetibly they flip, get banned or generally made a fool off. So, in relaity its there own doing as they simply cant take it like a grown up.

BTW Spud, your not a @unt it was just a generic example so dont take it to heart old bean.



Im glad you added the btw bit as i was about to open up a family sized virtual can o whoopass lol


And i do actually have one, wanna see?

Pistol Pete
06-03-09, 10:24 PM
I wanna see...lol

dave.gsi
06-03-09, 10:25 PM
A lot of poeple take to heart whats said..... why i dont know.

Hell, Spudly your a cnut. If I openely said that, all hell would break lose, why I dont know? Some people just cant take being talked down to/bad mouthed etc so invetibly they flip, get banned or generally made a fool off. So, in relaity its there own doing as they simply cant take it like a grown up.

BTW Spud, your not a @unt it was just a generic example so dont take it to heart old bean.

if you're reffering to me there, nobody has talked down to me or bad mouthed me, i just have a voice, i'm not a sheep like you and follow what 'the cool kids' are doing.....grow some balls and say what you really think :thumb:

mowgli
06-03-09, 10:26 PM
show me the can!!! show me the can!!!

Spudly
06-03-09, 10:26 PM
I wanna see...lol


You asked for it pete & Mowgli......




http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a36/spudly01/Random%20stuff/whoopass.jpg

Mike
06-03-09, 10:29 PM
if you're reffering to me there, nobody has talked down to me or bad mouthed me, i just have a voice, i'm not a sheep like you and follow what 'the cool kids' are doing.....grow some balls and say what you really think :thumb:

You see, youve instantly assumed I was reffering to your good self. Assumptions get everyone nowhere. I do have semi fuzzy hair, small ears but alas no, I dont resemble a sheep.

Anyway, my opinion of you has now drastically changed Dave, you appearing to be @unt at this time.

Lee
06-03-09, 10:30 PM
is that some sort of half arsed apology or admission that hes actually done something wrong.......or just another sarcastic joke for the png clique to laugh at?:roll:
All due respect Dave, it wasnt you who had his thread changed, therefore its not you any apology would be owed to. If Slothsport is truely offended by this, then yes, we are truely sorry the intent of the post was missread, but in all honesty it has bog all to do with you, apart from it keeps you on your massive steed for a bit longer.

mowgli
06-03-09, 10:32 PM
that's not a can....... now this is a can...
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll303/IMAOZI/Humor/can-of-whoop-ass.jpg?t=1236378683 (javascript:void(0);)

Spudly
06-03-09, 10:37 PM
that's not a can....... now this is a can...



Damn you lol

mowgli
06-03-09, 10:39 PM
I'll bust you then.....


http://guymartinracing.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/dambusters.jpg

dave.gsi
06-03-09, 10:43 PM
All due respect Dave, it wasnt you who had his thread changed, therefore its not you any apology would be owed to. If Slothsport is truely offended by this, then yes, we are truely sorry the intent of the post was missread, but in all honesty it has bog all to do with you, apart from it keeps you on your massive steed for a bit longer.

to be honest, i wasn't expecting an apology or admission of wrongdoing, as it wasn't my post that was edited........but we all know who i was talking about and what post/ who did it etc.

if that was genuine then i have no more points to add. i'll be happy to see this thread closed on a good note,...stu won't be editing anymore posts by any user unless there is a good reason,...ie a breach of forum rules....not for his own personal pleasure??

does that seem fair?

Stuart
06-03-09, 10:43 PM
, i also see that stuart is remaining pretty silent here,


I are looking after a small person and going to bed.




and to be fair, you noticed one of 1,107,945 posts to be edited.... well done, 10 man points


so Dave, to put it uber simply, you dont want me as an admin.... well why the f**k didnt you come out with that in the first place.

And also will all these "sheep" state what it is that is wrong with the site rather than hiding behind a few people who simply say "ahhh but there are loads of people who think the same but wont say anything" and no details are EVER mentioned.... how can things change it no one stands up and says something.... otherwise STFU and dont cry

dave.gsi
06-03-09, 10:45 PM
I are looking after a small person and going to bed.




and to be fair, you noticed one of 1,107,945 posts to be edited.... well done, 10 man points

are you not going to - rep me like everyone else? :p

my point has been made, lets draw a line under it?

Spudly
06-03-09, 10:46 PM
are you not going to - rep me like everyone else? :p




Nope, as he is not petty:thumb:

Stuart
06-03-09, 10:46 PM
are you not going to - rep me like everyone else? :p

my point has been made, lets draw a line under it?


because you want it, you wont get it :p

dave.gsi
06-03-09, 10:47 PM
Nope, as he is not petty:thumb:

yep, you obviously know feck all about anything :roll:

post closed????

Sloth
06-03-09, 10:48 PM
story of my life/\

Lee
06-03-09, 10:49 PM
stu won't be editing anymore posts by any user unless there is a good reason,...ie a breach of forum rules....not for his own personal pleasure??

does that seem fair?

No, stu wont be editing any posts of people where there is an element of doubt about the existence of a sense of humour. It causes far too much hassle.

Stuart
06-03-09, 10:51 PM
No, stu wont be editing any posts of people where there is an element of doubt about the existence of a sense of humour. It causes far too much hassle.


in which case, i've not actually edited a post belonging to someone with no sense of humor.....well I think sloth has a sense of humor

Curtoise
06-03-09, 10:51 PM
i didnt want it and i got it lol

Lee
06-03-09, 10:53 PM
in which case, i've not actually edited a post belonging to someone with no sense of humor.....well I think sloth has a sense of humor

Maybe no editing of posts where someone without a sense of humour might see it then.

Oh crap, thats the whole site then :(

Sloth
06-03-09, 10:53 PM
i do have a sense of humour stu my love, its very very warped tho...;)

Stuart
06-03-09, 10:54 PM
i do have a sense of humour stu my love, its very very warped tho...;)


bugger, we have something in common.... Where is that noose

dave.gsi
06-03-09, 10:54 PM
so Dave, to put it uber simply, you dont want me as an admin.... well why the f**k didnt you come out with that in the first place.

And also will all these "sheep" state what it is that is wrong with the site rather than hiding behind a few people who simply say "ahhh but there are loads of people who think the same but wont say anything" and no details are EVER mentioned.... how can things change it no one stands up and says something.... otherwise STFU and dont cry

well fisrtly, nice edit.....(which isn't recorded on your post cos your admin :p )

i don't have a problem with you, only the way you use your admin powers to make your friends think you're cool and funny. its a miss-use of power in my eyes....

and nobody is likely to come out of the woodwork at the moment to speak of any issues they have with the site if they get treated like i did........i've been here a while and aren't scared of saying what i see, a newbee is never going to do the same because they won't get listened to?

Mike
06-03-09, 10:55 PM
Maybe no editing of posts where someone without a sense of humour might see it then.

Oh crap, thats the whole site then :(

But wouldnt that then mean we would all need to be factual as oppose to entertaining?

Pistol Pete
06-03-09, 10:57 PM
Maybe people dont come out the woodwork complaining, because there is nothing to complain about?

Curtoise
06-03-09, 10:57 PM
well fisrtly, nice edit.....(which isn't recorded on your post cos your admin :p )

i don't have a problem with you, only the way you use your admin powers to make your friends think you're cool and funny. its a miss-use of power in my eyes....

and nobody is likely to come out of the woodwork at the moment to speak of any issues they have with the site if they get treated like i did........i've been here a while and aren't scared of saying what i see, a newbee is never going to do the same because they won't get listened to?

well to be fair uber noobs could just come on a winge loads about the forum which would be silly to listen to

Stuart
06-03-09, 10:59 PM
oh no, i edited my own post to add stuff..... quick send me to the hauge :wall:

I cant for the life of me think of one person that I could "impress" with admin rights (and frankly I'd be shocked that someone could be impressed by it unless they are an uber geek).

If no one speaks of the issues then as far as we can tell there are none to deal with, see the problem there?

Cant whinge about something that dosent exist can you? (now should it exist and someone speaks of said issues then it can be whinged about and a path to rectification found).

Spudly
06-03-09, 11:00 PM
yep, you obviously know feck all about anything :roll:





Lmfao, no matter how hard you strike your matches whilst sitting in a puddle of petrol, they wont light hmmm, that must be annoying lol

Sloth
06-03-09, 11:00 PM
oh its you, i wondered who curtoise was.

Lee
06-03-09, 11:01 PM
well fisrtly, nice edit.....(which isn't recorded on your post cos your admin :p )

i don't have a problem with you, only the way you use your admin powers to make your friends think you're cool and funny. its a miss-use of power in my eyes....

and nobody is likely to come out of the woodwork at the moment to speak of any issues they have with the site if they get treated like i did........i've been here a while and aren't scared of saying what i see, a newbee is never going to do the same because they won't get listened to?

And how were you treated Dave? You called us Nazis, quite frankly you've got off pretty lightly in my eyes.

Get a petition up and present it to us and we will deal with the issues. Cant say fairer than that. Its best you do it as you obviously know who all these unhappy members are, we dont have a fecking clue who you are on about :p

Curtoise
06-03-09, 11:01 PM
lol yeh says in my sig dude

dave.gsi
06-03-09, 11:04 PM
lol @ the above posts......


'if people don't complain then there is no problem' .........take the blinkers off ;)

Stuart
06-03-09, 11:07 PM
lol @ the above posts......


'if people don't complain then there is no problem' .........take the blinkers off ;)


epic misquote.


its a bit like bitching about the way your local council is run, and then not voting for the other guy, and still bitching.

You cant sort something out that isnt explicitly described/stated.

Curtoise
06-03-09, 11:07 PM
im pretty sure this thread was made for the word tedious

Pistol Pete
06-03-09, 11:07 PM
lol

round and round we go......

Mike
06-03-09, 11:08 PM
Back to sqaure one..........again.

Dave, for simple folk like me, can you tell the group exactly what the problem is you high horsed @unt. Because to me it appears you have a massive issue with any kind of minor authority and your lacking massivly in the problem solving department as your team work skills are non existant?

This whole farce is really getting on my baps as your talking all this speil, yet are ever so reluctant to help with problem sovling? Team work? Any gen on this?

EDIT: AND before you even start carping on about it, Im not taking sides at all, Im a lone ranger in here chap.

Spudly
06-03-09, 11:08 PM
'if people don't complain then there is no problem' .........take the blinkers off ;)




Errm call me stupid please, but unless people on (the internet ffs) here complain that theyre not happy then the admin are hardly gonna see it in thier faces are they due to not being able to see other members.

So if noone complains then how are the admin supposed to know, theyre not gods (well some arent unfortunately) theyre just like you or me and i know for a fact i cant see the expression/emotion on your face dave so how can they?

Answer is they cant so unless peeps put up, then shut up....


IMO:thumb:

Pistol Pete
06-03-09, 11:09 PM
lol now GTF :p ;)

brainsnova
06-03-09, 11:09 PM
im with admin lol

Sloth
06-03-09, 11:10 PM
amen spud, lee lock it mate.

Stuart
06-03-09, 11:11 PM
amen spud, lee lock it mate.


but where will we get the fabled bad info from if its locked

Curtoise
06-03-09, 11:12 PM
i think i can hear a horse shrinking

Spudly
06-03-09, 11:12 PM
but where will we get the fabled bad info from if its locked


The big bad book of fabled fairytales thats brought us to this position now lol

Lee
06-03-09, 11:12 PM
lol @ the above posts......


'if people don't complain then there is no problem' .........take the blinkers off ;)

We will listen to any unhappy members. We always have. Im not sure where your going with this, there is obviously an underbelly of discruntled members who think we will ban them for speaking their dissatisfaction. I can assure them they wont. I just emptied my PM box. PM me with any problems with the assurity of being heard.

Dont worry about PMming me Dave, i already know you're incredibly unhappy, but your current unhappyness can only be solved by the above members PMming me. Unless you have another grievance up your sleeve ready to slam dunk my friday evening with?

16xe_chris
06-03-09, 11:17 PM
lol yeh says in my sig dude

YOU HAVE CHANGED

I thought you were goingto be called ford? or did i miss a few dayslol

Curtoise
06-03-09, 11:18 PM
lol you must of haha

Lee
06-03-09, 11:20 PM
Still no PM's.

I wont bite. Im quite nice actually :)

Sloth
06-03-09, 11:20 PM
im unhappy, i need a cuddle, and shes miles away :(

Curtoise
06-03-09, 11:21 PM
cuddle yourself, always works for me lol

brainsnova
06-03-09, 11:21 PM
im unhappy, i need a cuddle, and shes miles away :(

are you thinking emmy lol

Curtoise
06-03-09, 11:22 PM
lol, peanut butterd emmy lol

Lee
06-03-09, 11:22 PM
Random thread is that way>>>>>>

dave.gsi
06-03-09, 11:29 PM
iv'e already said the basic points of my arguement/incessant whinging......

1. why can't we talk for 30 pages about what the hell we like (its muppet corner FFS)...............

** we now have a new thread for just that (which i must say most of you who are against me have posted in :roll: )

2. admin, should not have the power to edit what people write for their own personal gain/to try to be funny/sarcastic etc (stuart),.............they should have it only for the benefit of the forum.....genuine spam etc should be deleted/ spelling grammar.. edited,...


to be honest, i think i'm happy with the outcome, a lot of people may not like me, but the forum (i think) will be better off for it. the only worry i still have is new members or non club members will be afraid to speak their minds for fear of being shot down by club sheep................

i'm not sure if that will ever change, but i'm willing to put this to bed now, rant over/off/cba anymore :)

MK999
06-03-09, 11:30 PM
Still no PM's.

I wont bite. Im quite nice actually :)

I'd PM you but I don't wanna be moderated and adminised :( You might hack my PM's too! :wtf:

Curtoise
06-03-09, 11:31 PM
fina fkin lee!!!

Graeme
06-03-09, 11:34 PM
Could this of not been rectified by a single pm to Lee? Instead of thirty four pages of cr@p

Lee
06-03-09, 11:42 PM
I'd PM you but I don't wanna be moderated and adminised :( You might hack my PM's too! :wtf:

I can still adminise this post if you want :) All adminising is free :thumb:

Joking aside, i have had one PM, and it was a fair point which I have taken on board, and have now banned the PMmer for a week.

That last bit was a joke btw, but the first bit wasn't. Just in case

And Dave, im glad you are satisfied with the outcome.

Sloth
06-03-09, 11:43 PM
group hug? (joke btw)

MK999
06-03-09, 11:50 PM
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Lee again. :(

Can you adminise my rep so I can give to the people I keep trying to? lol I don't even remember giving you rep, maybe THAT was adminised ! :wtf: The adminisation is out of control, like my adminised use of the word adminised. It's just everywhere :(

dave.gsi
06-03-09, 11:50 PM
i have had one PM, and it was a fair point which I have taken on board, and have now banned the PMmer for a week.



i did actually l.o.l there lol

i would pm you but i think ive shared everything i need to say :p


edit.. cos l.o.l = lol if you dn't put the fullstops in

The Simps
07-03-09, 06:47 PM
any chance of salvaging my 2 poems?

andrew1988
07-03-09, 06:58 PM
any chance of salvaging my 2 poems?

I never read these poems but ive heard great things, i actually feel life is a little empty without ever knowing them. Can you make new ones? We'll start a Simps Poems thread :D

Lee
07-03-09, 07:01 PM
If i had a better connection i would salvage them, however, when I click on a page at present, I have to take the morning off :(

MK999
07-03-09, 07:03 PM
If i had a better connection i would salvage them, however, when I click on a page at present, I have to take the morning off :(

Probably that 100m ethernet cable going into the pikey caravan, you wanna move it closer. lol

Lee
07-03-09, 07:04 PM
No, its a 480kbps connection via my N95 lol. I cant even get 3g here. Im ripping my hair out at the moment :(

Pistol Pete
07-03-09, 07:12 PM
Fark me Lee. You did all that replying via an N95 last night??!! lol i'd rep you if i didnt have to spread it!!

Sloth
07-03-09, 07:15 PM
jesus lee good show matey

Lee
07-03-09, 10:05 PM
Yep. It dropped out on three replies. I nearly had a stroke. :(

Sloth
07-03-09, 11:33 PM
jack woulda stroked it matey....