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Iain
16-02-09, 05:34 PM
Decided yesterday that I was going to take my Nova off the road again and do some bits to it that I regret not doing when I first built it (See my original WIP (http://www.pngclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=70561)). :) The major aim is to get a good layer of paint, tidy up the underneath and maybe a bit more power?!

Been stripping some of the front end down today.

Bagan with it looking like a normal car

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/001.JPG

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/002.JPG

First off, strip the front suspension off and drain the oil

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/003.JPG

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/004.JPG

All off (new driveshafts have only covered a few miles since fitting lol)

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/005.JPG

Stripped engine bay back and drained fluids, hopefully borrow an engine crane to remove it at some point

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/006.JPG

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/007.JPG

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/008.JPG

And in typical WIP fashion, the engine bay good and bad bits

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/009.JPG

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/010.JPG

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/011.JPG

Iain
16-02-09, 05:34 PM
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/012.JPG

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/013.JPG

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/014.JPG

That's it so far :)

Dar
16-02-09, 07:00 PM
Did you get your horn from the General Lee? (http://mosh.nokia.com/content/48CAAF2AB2733533E040050A44307E0C)

Iain
16-02-09, 07:03 PM
lol They're not musical ones.

Sloth
16-02-09, 07:08 PM
looking good matey, whats the plans for powaaaaahh then?

Jay
16-02-09, 07:12 PM
Sell me the engine.. :)

Adam
16-02-09, 09:31 PM
So whats the plan Iain? Mini rebuild??? Respray?


Whens the xe going in? :p

General Baxter
16-02-09, 09:33 PM
Whens the xe going in? :p

he said power not weight lol

Adam
16-02-09, 09:41 PM
Power increase outweighs the extra 20kilo........

CoolTiger
16-02-09, 09:48 PM
i got dixe horns :D nout wrong with them lol,

looking good :) will it be at pv

vaughanmc
16-02-09, 10:05 PM
i got dixe horns :D nout wrong with them lol

I have an air-horn setup as well with like 2 trumpets

There absolutely awsome lol

John
16-02-09, 10:09 PM
Nice work iain, always really liked your car. As others have said, what's the plans engine wise?

burgo
17-02-09, 12:16 AM
if you need a hand gayer then give us a shout

brainsnova
17-02-09, 02:41 AM
train horn FTW.

Iain
17-02-09, 07:32 PM
lol Glad to see my horn is liked. Yeah just a mini rebuild, bit of nice paint, and treat the underside properly since it made it through winter.

Hopefully be done for PV yeah.

Cheers Burgo. :)

Dunno about engine yet TBH, might just tweak the 1600 a bit, maybe aftermarket management?

Adam
17-02-09, 07:41 PM
I'll lend a hand too if im not busy with work and shizzle!!!!

Txt me.

Emmy
17-02-09, 07:52 PM
Nice cant beat a white Nova :thumb:

Sloth
17-02-09, 07:55 PM
iain, you need boost dude....

matt_vaughan
17-02-09, 08:02 PM
az it got boost yer.......

Iain
20-02-09, 06:15 PM
Stripped a little more off tonight after work

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/016.JPG

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/019.JPG

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/017.JPG

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/018.JPG

Shot myself in the foot though as I can't remove my dash due to the front cage section lol Might be able to lift it out if I remove the windscreen, need to get a car cover so I can do that.

Mike
20-02-09, 06:23 PM
Cracking on aint you chap!! Your car reminds me of mine now circa 2006 pre reshell, nothing but an empty white shell lol lol

Adam
20-02-09, 06:37 PM
That exhaust system has rusted quickly!!!

Theres a few white empty shells on here atm lol lol

Iain
20-02-09, 06:40 PM
Luckily I didn't put much back on last time so there's hardly anything to remove lol

Yeah, it's rusted mainly along where it faces the floor. Will give it a blast of high temp paint.

Mike
20-02-09, 06:40 PM
That exhaust system has rusted quickly!!!

Theres a few white empty shells on here atm lol lol

Everyone an there dog has a Glacier white non sunroof shell dont they lol

Benn
20-02-09, 06:55 PM
Good work, yet you can get a light switch out... hahahaha

Iain
21-02-09, 06:33 PM
Made the most of the nice weather this afternoon and whipped the little 1600 out.

Picked up an engine crane and engine stand from my mate:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/020.JPG

Bonnet and wings off for easier access:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/021.JPG

Engine crane supports engine while I undo the mounts:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/022.JPG

And engine sitting on a tyre and two skateboards:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/023.JPG

Car up in the air:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/024.JPG

And it's out:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/025.JPG

Box and clutch off:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/026.JPG

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/027.JPG

I'm no clutch expert but this isn't good?

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/028.JPG

And empty bay, can't rip wiring out until I've removed the dash:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/029.JPG

Gotta put the engine on its stand tomorrow, and will probably remove the rear beam and fuel tank. :)

Adam
21-02-09, 06:43 PM
Nice work Iain.

Clutch is ****ed

tom reid
21-02-09, 11:00 PM
You welding up the engine bay?

Benn
22-02-09, 05:18 PM
lol you have a hoist and use it to lift the car? lol crazy.

Good work tho, that clutch has got years left it in...

Iain
22-02-09, 08:30 PM
I find lifting the car over the engine is loads easier than squeezing the engine out the top.

Tom yeah I was thinking of doing some of the seams, got myself a Clarke MIG so if I get good enough with some practice I'll give it a go.

Today's progress...

Got engine on its new stand, never used one before but it's really cool the access it gives you.

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/030.JPG

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/031.JPG

Drained fuel tank using the pump:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/032.JPG

And removed. Bit scabby under there (found no major nasty bits so far though) but it'll all get treated:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/033.JPG

Pic of today's removals:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/034.JPG

John
22-02-09, 08:32 PM
Lol, good old skateboards still being used for engine removal lol.

Iain
22-02-09, 08:34 PM
lol Had to find them and dig them out from when I first fitted the engine

tom reid
22-02-09, 08:38 PM
You haven't found any holes yet?, your'e not hitting the usual area's hard enoughlol

Adam
22-02-09, 08:43 PM
Whens the XE going in?

burgo
22-02-09, 08:44 PM
mmmm a blank canvas.....lovely

Benn
22-02-09, 08:58 PM
Squezzing? hahaha

So what are you refitting then? Keeping the 1.6?

Leeboo
22-02-09, 09:00 PM
Good progress there mate, I remember seeing your Nova in a rolling road feature in Total Vauxhall.

I say maybe a bit of headwork and a cam in the 1600 :cool:

Paul
22-02-09, 11:12 PM
Whens the XE going in?

As above, nice work IAN, look like a really nice clean shell actually, got some tasteful mods already done to it, a nice engine would be my next step (no offence btw :thumb: )

Adam
23-02-09, 04:49 PM
Iain's engine is impressive for what it is.
Kept with my 1600 16v no probs at all!!!

(his is fully stripped though :p )

Iain
23-02-09, 06:00 PM
Out come the weight advantage excuses lol Just because you couldn't get away from 96bhp of pure grunt.

Think I'm gonna keep the 1.6 for the time being yeah, might try my first engine rebuild on it. If I manage to strengthen the bay it'll be good for whatever in the future though.


You haven't found any holes yet?, your'e not hitting the usual area's hard enoughlol
I think we got most of the usual spots first time round. :cool:

Been trying to remove the brake lines tonight, all came off fairly easily except one front flexi that's being a bugger.

AlexW
23-02-09, 06:24 PM
C/X16XE :cool:

Iain
24-02-09, 06:04 PM
Finally got my brake lines off, although broke one trying to undo the flexi. Might as well replace them anyway.

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/035.JPG

Bay's looking emptier now, still need a car cover to remove the windscreen to get the rest of the loom out though

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/036.JPG

draper
24-02-09, 07:37 PM
nice bag ;)

Benn
24-02-09, 08:05 PM
What are the plans for the bay?

Iain
27-02-09, 06:14 PM
Leave the bag out of this Draper lol

Bay is hopefully going to be stitch welded and sprayed up nice again. All the rust will be treated.

Finally got the screen out today, was dead easy. This allowed me to get the dash out through the gap and remove all the wiring.

Started by peeling back all the rubber on the inside:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/037.JPG

And it popped straight out:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/038.JPG

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/039.JPG

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/040.JPG

Which allowed me to remove this:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/041.JPG

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/042.JPG

Dunno if I'll put a dash back in, looks cool without.

Got myself a cover too to keep the rain out while there's no windows in:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/043.JPG

Ernie
27-02-09, 06:38 PM
Everyone an there dog has a Glacier white non sunroof shell dont they lol

I dont know what you meen lol.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v617/chunny01/JDL%20Project/jdlnova076.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v617/chunny01/JDL%20Project/jdlnova004.jpg
Nice build mate keep it up.
:thumb:

Benn
27-02-09, 09:22 PM
You know you can remove the dash with the screen in yeah?

Iain
27-02-09, 10:02 PM
Not without bending it in half and ruining it. The front cage legs have it wedged in place.

Benn
27-02-09, 10:06 PM
Ah ok, didnt think the cage would be jamming it in.

Adam
28-02-09, 06:00 PM
Good work iain

Cle
28-02-09, 06:23 PM
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/039.JPG

Halfords axle stands FTW lol i got them too :)

Iain
28-02-09, 06:49 PM
Yeah they're not bad for a few quid.

Today's progress, its pretty much a bare shell now.

Used a battery to activate the electric windows to get the windows out:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/044.JPG

Out:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/045.JPG

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/046.JPG

Pedals etc out:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/047.JPG

The mess of a loom, going to replace it and start fresh with the wiring:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/048.JPG

Trial fitted my new wings, good fit:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/049.JPG

Decided to attack the nasty bits with a screwdriver, and found a hole behind the passenger turret:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/050.JPG

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/051.JPG

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/052.JPG

scott.parker
28-02-09, 07:33 PM
Fook me didnt see this coming!

So you planning to re-build in places and respray the shell in-out?

Scott

draper
28-02-09, 11:24 PM
im now in the white nova gang lol

can i have my wings back please

tom reid
28-02-09, 11:32 PM
Thought I recognised those wings, take them off Iain, theyr'e jinxed, lol

Iain
01-03-09, 09:46 AM
lol Jinxed, when I write it off you're to blame Draper!

Yeah Scott I'll fix up the dodgy areas and hopefully get a good layer of paint all over, and paint up the underneath white too. Gonna need two rear arches this time too I think. :(

scott.parker
01-03-09, 10:06 AM
Really? they looked ok in the pics? you could just patch them up good (lol if patching up can be counted as good?)

Iain
01-03-09, 10:54 AM
They were patched up when I first put it on the road, we welded in an extra lip and fillered it to shape. For some reason the rust is coming back through again so it's time to do it properly.

draper
01-03-09, 11:16 AM
how bad is your drivers wing buddy ?

Iain
01-03-09, 12:17 PM
Will PM you Draper.

Matt
01-03-09, 12:31 PM
Some good swift work there. Bay will look a thousand times better painted and tidied up.

:thumb:

Adam
01-03-09, 04:44 PM
They were patched up when I first put it on the road, we welded in an extra lip and fillered it to shape. For some reason the rust is coming back through again so it's time to do it properly.
When the arches are rusty there is no way of stopping it :)
As the rust is coming through from the inner arch panel, so no matter what you do to the outer arch/lip, it'll just come through from the inside again...

The only fix is new panels.

Ste L
01-03-09, 08:42 PM
nice work Iain, wish i had this motivation lol

Iain
07-03-09, 05:43 PM
Got a bit more done on the interior today.

I tried spot weld drill bits and had no success with them so went for the grinder approach.

Back end up to get my rear suspension out of the way:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/053.JPG

Chopped off the bracket:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/054.JPG

And grinded the remains down over the spot welds:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/055.JPG

All gone:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/056.JPG

Mutilated the rear seat brackets for easier access:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/057.JPG

All seat brackets gone:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/058.JPG

Looks much nicer:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/059.JPG

The remains:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/060.JPG

Now for this to go to make way for an internal shifter:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/061.JPG

Going:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/062.JPG

Gone:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/063.JPG

Sloth
07-03-09, 05:49 PM
woo another s/b track slut! i cant wait! im toying with the internal shifter btw...

Adam
07-03-09, 06:16 PM
Looking good iain.

SO, whats the plans? Respray???? Engine??? :p

peester
07-03-09, 06:19 PM
christ, more hardcore for 09..
nowt wrong with 1.6 8v, ad..

Iain
07-03-09, 06:42 PM
SO, whats the plans? Respray???? Engine??? :p

Yes to both :plol

Yeah should be a bit better for this year when it's done :cool:

Dar
07-03-09, 10:56 PM
Another perfectly good nova being hacked to bits by a nutter with an angle grinder! Poor car. Fair play though Lionel, looks like your cracking on with it :thumb:

Not bad for a geek.

Benn
07-03-09, 10:59 PM
Why have you cut the bit of dub skin out of the tunnel?

Iain
07-03-09, 11:04 PM
Thanks Dar lol
Benn, what do you mean dub skin? I removed the metal in the front to make way for an internal shifter to try and get a better gearchange feel.

AlexW
07-03-09, 11:10 PM
And to get rid of the rattle you said about Ages ago?

Looking good, what engine is going back in? Please say youve seeen the smallblock 16v light?

Iain
07-03-09, 11:12 PM
Yeah that annoying rattle through the stick will hopefully disappear! I'm keeping the 1.6 8v, end of :Dlol

AlexW
07-03-09, 11:15 PM
Ah you homo. But at least il have similar power ;)

Benn
07-03-09, 11:18 PM
Thats what i ment.

Iain
08-03-09, 05:18 PM
Stopped raining long enough for me to sort out the internal shifter hole. I hope it's in the right place :roll:lol

Following Dars guide and the competition build manual I drew up a very scientific diagram to take out with me:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/064.JPG

Marked up:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/065.JPG

Cut:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/066.JPG

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/067.JPG

Started smoothing off the rear seat brackets to make it look a bit nicer:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/068.JPG

Adam
08-03-09, 05:31 PM
Neat work.
What did you cut the shifter hole with??? Hole saw and then grinder?

EDIT-I see a jigsaw lol

Iain
08-03-09, 05:32 PM
Holesaw (in the second pic) and jigsaw.

Leeboo
08-03-09, 05:34 PM
Looks like hes drilled a hole at either end and cut out the middle bit with grinder!

neat work mate.

Mike
08-03-09, 05:38 PM
Looking good Lionel, same appraoch as mine, fcuking off all the useless shiz. Will defiently have a nosey round this when I next see it.

burgo
08-03-09, 07:57 PM
looking good sexy

Jay
08-03-09, 07:59 PM
Looking good mate, Daily progress is always a good sign

dj_wudgey
08-03-09, 08:06 PM
looks good matey good to see we have another slag being built!!

Paul
08-03-09, 08:18 PM
nice work Ian. Looks all good.

draper
09-03-09, 12:34 AM
crack on mincer lol

scott.parker
09-03-09, 02:55 PM
Good lad, job well done! same as mine lol

Iain
14-03-09, 05:45 PM
Been practicing my welding this morning, and got confident enough to weld up my new wings (I know it's just tacking but...)

Cleaned up with a plate behind:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/069.JPG

Welded:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/070.JPG

Cleaned up the back and put some rust treatment on:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/071.JPG

Same with passenger wing:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/072.JPG

Dodgy photo, but I filled in the sideskirt holes with weld. Also filled 3-4 holes along the lip (mudflaps I assume):

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/073.JPG

Ghetto lip rolling:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/074.JPG

One done, just needs some sanding:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/075.JPG

Adam
14-03-09, 05:51 PM
Good stuff Iain :)

Iain
15-03-09, 06:32 PM
Wings almost complete

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/076.JPG

And picked up an internal shifter

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/077.JPG

Adam
15-03-09, 06:34 PM
Good stuff, got to wait till the engine/box is back in before you can cut/weld the shifter??

Sloth
15-03-09, 06:37 PM
oooh nice mince iain, weldin looks spot on!

Iain
15-03-09, 06:39 PM
Good stuff, got to wait till the engine/box is back in before you can cut/weld the shifter??

Yeah think so. Still worried the hole won't be in the right place/big enough when I come to fit it though :tard:

Adam
15-03-09, 06:40 PM
Just take a grinder to the hole!!

Benn
15-03-09, 07:45 PM
Nice work dude, you only wanna spot plates on for hole plating anyway.

scott.parker
16-03-09, 07:01 PM
Should be fine, ill get you pic of mine tomo for you mate.

Scott

scott.parker
18-03-09, 03:22 PM
Right after you said about the internal selector i went to look at mine and get you a pic (Dar did do mine too)

Well i got some pics, but also decided to cut more out of it, as i had noticed before when trying to get into reverse gear it would not be easy, and the leaver would pop back off the rev/lip thing etc.

So here's a pic or two for you.

Before i cut and butchered it lol

4th gear position

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/2136/dscf0255small4th.jpg

Close up

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/9656/dscf0258small4th.jpg

Reverse position

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/2464/dscf0256smallrev.jpg

Close up

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/3236/dscf0257smallreverse.jpg

So, i noticed it was hitting, and rubbing on the cut out, I'm not saying Dar got it in the wrong place, as I'm sure he didn't, but car engine mounts, hight, positions might make this vary, so there is not perfect right or wrong..

So i got some snips out, cut a bit out (till it got to double skin) and bent it slightly with mold grips, I'll be covering it over with some rubber or something, so it don't need to be pretty.

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/9574/dscf0254small.jpg

That's made it fit loads better now, oh also mesured up and this what i think is about right to cut out to.


Measuring from the weld/ bulk join back it's 20mm to first pen mark, then from the same bulk join the bottom mark is 140mm

Hope this helps?

Scott
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/5281/dscf0262small.jpg

Iain
20-03-09, 05:16 PM
Nice one for the pics Scott. Yeah it's hit and miss whether it'll be fine then! Oh well we'll find out eventually.

scott.parker
20-03-09, 05:58 PM
Nice one for the pics Scott. Yeah it's hit and miss whether it'll be fine then! Oh well we'll find out eventually.

Think if you follow the guide line Ive set out it should be OK, so cut 20mm from the bulk seam, then your bottom cut should be 140mm from that same bulk seam.

Scott

Iain
20-03-09, 06:01 PM
The guide says 70/80mm from the seam!?

scott.parker
20-03-09, 06:15 PM
Well on mine you can clearly see it's not that dude! lol

Iain
21-03-09, 06:56 PM
Still not got the welding skillz to fix the rot so been tinkering with my tailgate. Figured as it'll be getting painted I'd get rid of the unused holes instead of just using grommets.

How it started

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/078.JPG

Plate lined up

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/079.JPG

Welded

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/080.JPG

Washer hole was annoying due to box section, so had to carefully plate a piece of metal in with the magnet

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/081.JPG

In

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/082.JPG

Both welds ground down ready for filling

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/083.JPG

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/084.JPG

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/085.JPG

And left it mid-filler, just needs a bit of finishing

Adam
21-03-09, 06:59 PM
Good stuff. I see you took my magnet advice :p

Iain
11-04-09, 01:43 PM
Small bit of progress but the weather is ruining my Easter weekend plans.

Plated the shifter hole and stitch welded the bracing on the floor. Still not sure if I'm going to remove the original seat brackets and go for rails instead.

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/086.JPG

Cleaned up all the seams around the engine bay, plated most of the rust and started a bit of stitch welding.

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/087.JPG

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/088.JPG

Stitched around the turrets.

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/089.JPG

Still got to do the bulkhead, under the front arches and around the back.

Iain
11-04-09, 01:46 PM
Figured while it's raining I'll get my doors off and work on those in the garage.

Proper tool makes life easier:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/090.JPG

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/091.JPG

Bare shell apart from rear axle now!

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/092.JPG

tom reid
11-04-09, 02:21 PM
Keep at the welding, looks good so far, what size wire are you using?

Iain
11-04-09, 02:22 PM
I think it's 0.6mm.

Adam
11-04-09, 02:49 PM
Nice work Iain.
Does that door removal tool work well??

Iain
11-04-09, 02:56 PM
Yeah it's great IMO, had both doors off in minutes. Do it with the wing off and door closed and it just lifts off, one person job.

Iain
11-04-09, 06:25 PM
Rain stopped so managed to get the bulkhead area stitched. Welding started good but went downhill around the lower arm mounts, I assume because the metal is crappy and rusted.

http://www.iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/093.JPG

http://www.iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/094.JPG

http://www.iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/095.JPG

Ran out of welding wire after that, should I go with 0.8mm or stick with 0.6mm?

Adam
11-04-09, 06:30 PM
0.6 tends to be better for proper thin sheet metal.
Most people use 0.8. Obviously you'll need 0.8 tips too.

Welding looks good, getting some nice burns on the inside of the panels??

Iain
11-04-09, 06:34 PM
Yep.

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/096.JPG

Jay
11-04-09, 06:35 PM
Nice progress Iain. I need to learn to weld.

novait
11-04-09, 06:36 PM
nice work iain.. keep it up..

Adam
11-04-09, 06:37 PM
:cool:

chrisnovaturbo
11-04-09, 07:22 PM
if you have just started welding it looks good. as long as you melt the to metals together it will be strong.:thumb:

Iain
11-04-09, 07:23 PM
Yeah very new to welding, finished my first ever bottle of gas that came with the welder earlier lol

Ste L
11-04-09, 07:24 PM
Yep.

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/096.JPG



YEAH BABY, Penitration :cool:




nice work Iain, coming on well

tom reid
11-04-09, 10:13 PM
I'd stay with the 0.6mm wire, 0.8 is too much for most of the light stuff your'e doing.
Ste L, you want penetrating?

AlexW
11-04-09, 10:16 PM
OHHHH no... Reid and his... yes :D

Looking good as i said on MSN Iain :D

tom reid
11-04-09, 10:18 PM
OHHHH no... Reid and his... yes :D

Looking good as i said on MSN Iain :D

You getting jealous darlin??

Iain
11-04-09, 10:26 PM
Will get another reel of 0.6mm wire and crack on with it then, thanks for the reply.

burgo
11-04-09, 11:27 PM
looking great iain

Iain
13-04-09, 04:54 PM
Finished stitch welding the passenger side inner arch today

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/097.JPG

Also used a flapwheel on all my engine bay welds to flatten them off so you can't see them through the new seam sealer

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/098.JPG

Next up, drivers side wheel arch then underneath and the back end!

draper
13-04-09, 06:35 PM
good work iain, be done for next year at this rate

burgo
13-04-09, 07:32 PM
im jealous :(

Benn
13-04-09, 09:22 PM
Good work dude.

scott.parker
14-04-09, 10:50 AM
good work iain, be done for next year at this rate

Fook off rate he's going he'll be at the national day in this! lol

Good work dude, oh did you ever extend the shifter cut out toward the bulk?

Scott

Iain
14-04-09, 01:39 PM
lol National Day, no chance. Thanks for all the comments.

I did extend the hole actually after your suggestions, see the top of page 12 with the bulkhead penetration photo, you can see it in that pic.

scott.parker
14-04-09, 01:44 PM
Cool thought so that's why i asked ;)

Iain
19-04-09, 05:04 PM
Spent yesterday and today afternoon doing a bit more on this. Welding ability has come on quite a bit which is good so went over some old welds and neatened them up a bit.

Better pic of the repair I did on the pass. side bay seam. Was a bit grotty and although previously repaired was a bit bent out of shape and thin in places. So I plated the whole lot up, will tidy it up with a bit of filler and sealer.

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/099.JPG

Found more rust here, so cut it out so I could treat inside the box section and plated it up.

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/100.JPG

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/101.JPG

And stitch welded the drivers arch. Have I missed anywhere?

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/102.JPG

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/103.JPG

Manky bit of crossmember plated.

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/104.JPG

Behind pass. turret plated, welded the metal underneath to this plate to make a complete repair. (I know it looks crap but it's hard to get a nice angle and steady hand here! lol)

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/105.JPG

Thought strengthening the engine mount brackets would be a good idea (!?!?) so stitched around them.

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/106.JPG

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/107.JPG

Then discovered my slam panel was fairly manky at both ends. Contemplated a new one but I'd still need to repair the drivers side hole in the inner wing so might just plate them up.

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/108.JPG

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/109.JPG

Iain
26-04-09, 06:20 PM
Finished the front end stitch welding today by doing the front chassis legs. Just the rear to do now!

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/110.JPG

My car support

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/111.JPG

Ready

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/112.JPG

Going

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/113.JPG

Up

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/114.JPG

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/115.JPG

Stitch welded chassis legs

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/116.JPG

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/117.JPG

Bit of rust to tackle but not found anything too bad yet.

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/118.JPG

Penetration

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/119.JPG

tom reid
26-04-09, 08:06 PM
Good work mate, your welding skills have really come on.Now, try welding upside down, lol

Iain
26-04-09, 10:39 PM
I've tried the odd bit and it's horrendous, which is why I opted for the car-on-its-side approach! lol

7ova
26-04-09, 10:44 PM
nice welding mate
keep up the good work

Adam
27-04-09, 12:06 AM
Welding looks top notch now, impressive!!!

burgo
27-04-09, 01:41 AM
looking good babes

scott.parker
27-04-09, 11:25 AM
Looks really good Iain, good welds too.

Have you checked round the spring seats? It's always quite bad there mate, but if your running coilovers next don't worry too much.

Scott

Iain
27-04-09, 11:33 AM
Looks really good Ian, good welds too.

Iain :p

Not looked at the back end yet TBH. Now the front's all welded up I'll focus on the rear, but I don't remember the spring seats looking too bad.

scott.parker
27-04-09, 11:37 AM
Alright it's not my fault your olds spelled it wrong! lol

Iain
04-05-09, 10:33 AM
Managed half of the rear end yesterday - middle floor join, drivers chassis leg and passenger arch. Will need to tip the car over on its other side for the rest.

What I started with:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/120.JPG

This cleaned up very well after seeing pics of how some rot here!

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/121.JPG

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/122.JPG

Stitched:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/123.JPG

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/124.JPG

Rear arch cleaned up around the seams and stitched (found it quite difficult to do the main splash guard seam due to metal thickness!?):

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/125.JPG

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/126.JPG

Today's penetrative actions lol

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/127.JPG

Half way there now:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/128.JPG

Also welded up the gearshifter plate from underneath and filled in the existing bolt holes. Also removed the threaded bits for the exhaust heatshields and ground flat the rear seat bolt brackets for a few grams saving:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/129.JPG

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/130.JPG

Benn
04-05-09, 10:35 AM
Good work, Aw says your gay.

Iain
04-05-09, 10:41 AM
Err thanks lol

vaughanmc
04-05-09, 11:02 AM
Nice work Iain, are you doing underneath body colour or just black!

Should be a nice example once its done fella! :thumb:

Iain
04-05-09, 11:06 AM
Going to be white underneath and in the arches, still working out what to use for that though!

vaughanmc
04-05-09, 11:13 AM
I'd remove all loose underseal thats already on there then give it nice thick even coats of Stonechip then fire over it with some white Hammerite...

scott.parker
04-05-09, 12:33 PM
Looks really good dude, that seam across the rear floor area is a bitch, they split open (as it is in before weld pic) and then rot between, mine had slightly, but i cured it.


Going to be white underneath and in the arches, still working out what to use for that though!

I'm sure you can buy White underseal, so you could strip it all, then paint in a primer/base coat, then use white underseal! :thumb:

keep up the good work mate.

Scott

Adam
04-05-09, 12:46 PM
Nice work.

tom reid
04-05-09, 06:49 PM
Iain, ideally you'd etch prime all the bare meat bits before painting.

Benn
04-05-09, 06:56 PM
I'm sure you can buy White underseal, so you could strip it all, then paint in a primer/base coat, then use white underseal! :thumb:


Be not point in painting it then... Just put the white under seal stright on.

Iain
09-05-09, 05:47 PM
Bit more work done today

Rolled it over the other way

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/131.JPG

Drivers rear arch done

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/132.JPG

Although how do I clean this area up for welding?! I can't get my grinder in there.

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/133.JPG

Few holes found in the rear panel so I cut it all out and welded in new metal (maybe overkill but I was having fun welding lol)

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/134.JPG

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/135.JPG

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/136.JPG

Extra strengthening around the harness eyebolt mounts

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/137.JPG

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/138.JPG

Welded these holes up in the front arches

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/139.JPG

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/140.JPG

Lots of penetration. I know it's a good sign but it's made the floor all bumpy feeling so I'll probs have to flick over it with the flapwheel to prep for paint?!

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/141.JPG

Think that's pretty much the underside done now

Plug
09-05-09, 05:54 PM
get on matey good progress there :thumb:

Rickyb
09-05-09, 06:41 PM
what a sweet project im well jelous.
rick

scott.parker
09-05-09, 06:59 PM
Good work dude! almost done ready for paint!

Iain
09-05-09, 07:00 PM
It still needs new rear quarters, one of the arch lips fell off on me earlier lol

kevster
09-05-09, 08:22 PM
nice work dude

burgo
09-05-09, 09:25 PM
looking wicked buddy

peester
09-05-09, 09:25 PM
yeah ide flap wheel the floor dude.

£££'s worth of work done

Iain
24-05-09, 09:33 AM
Unwrapped the car again yesterday

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/142.JPG

Flapwheeled the floors flat and cleaned some seams out for more stitch welding inside

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/143.JPG

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/144.JPG

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/145.JPG

And chopped out pass. side seat rails ready for rails for new seats. Couldn't be bothered with trying to remove all traces of them after seeing how others have struggled. They're made from quite thick metal!

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/146.JPG

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/147.JPG

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/148.JPG

Planning on staggered rails from box section like so

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/149.JPG

Graeme
24-05-09, 09:56 AM
Should hopefully now be nice and strong, good progress

Jay
24-05-09, 10:06 AM
Gettin the Iain, thats next on my list is to do the underneath of mine :)

Iain
24-05-09, 04:56 PM
Stitch welded the insides today. Not sure if some of it was necessary but it won't hurt!

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/150.JPG

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/151.JPG

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/152.JPG

Smoothed the beesting aerial hole off, should never have fitted one!

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/153.JPG

Only issue left now is my slam panel. Cut out all the rusted metal and left with quite big holes. Mostly covered up by the wing so I'll probably plate them seeing as a replacement panel won't fix it all.

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/154.JPG

Benn
24-05-09, 05:06 PM
So is that every seam stiched up?

Iain
24-05-09, 05:08 PM
Yeah, can't think of/find any more seams to do.

Adam
24-05-09, 08:13 PM
Think of all the weight of that extra weldage.....

draper
24-05-09, 10:53 PM
good work iain

Iain
25-05-09, 10:15 AM
The weight will be worth it when it beats you around track Adam :eek:

burgo
25-05-09, 02:25 PM
fapping awesome. proper shell prepage

Iain
25-05-09, 03:00 PM
Finally got that pesky slam panel patched up.

Plate made

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/155.JPG

Welded

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/156.JPG

Other side the same

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/157.JPG

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/158.JPG

Found it difficult to do without blowing lots of holes but got there in the end.

Currently looking at metal box section to sort my seat rails out. Needs to be about 3mm thick?

Adam
25-05-09, 03:38 PM
The weight will be worth it when it beats you around track Adam :eek:
We'll see ;)

Benn
25-05-09, 06:09 PM
Nice, i'll teach you to cut metal nicely one day too...

Iain
25-05-09, 06:39 PM
lol Thanks Sir Benn, I look forward to your lesson.

Spudly
25-05-09, 06:41 PM
Looks like a lot of graft going into this lemon will be good to see her back looking like a car again at some point:thumb:

Benn
25-05-09, 06:51 PM
lol, its most a time saving thing, the neater you can cut it, the neater everything else becomes.

nova ian
25-05-09, 07:28 PM
Currently looking at metal box section to sort my seat rails out. Needs to be about 3mm thick?

Iain, get some 1 inch by 1 inch box secion. Thats what I used, went to a steel place and asked a bloke in the yard if they had any and got a length for free :thumb:

PM'd you

Iain
25-05-09, 07:39 PM
Thanks for the info Ian. Something like this is what I need I guess? Click here (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Mild-steel-box-section-25mm-x-25mm-x-3mm-x-2-5-mtr_W0QQitemZ380126440887QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_BOI _Metalworking_Milling_Welding_Metalworking_Supplie s_ET?hash=item58814d2db7&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1683|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A13 18|301%3A1|293%3A1|294%3A50)

draper
25-05-09, 07:53 PM
Looks like a lot of graft going into this lemon will be good to see her back looking like a car again at some point:thumb:

completed by PV2013 if he pulls his finger out

skidmarkz
25-05-09, 08:55 PM
cool build, just reminded me just how much welding i have left to do underneath my car, i was happy lol...

Keep going mate looks cool :)

Jonezy
25-05-09, 09:56 PM
Alright mate, I used 3x2 box section for the seat rails on my rally car

Iain
29-05-09, 08:01 PM
My new seats arrived during the week :cool: Will be attempting to fit them this weekend.

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/159.JPG

Adam
29-05-09, 08:02 PM
Im not jealous

Benn
29-05-09, 08:41 PM
Not a fan of ears, but they do look cool as.

Jay
29-05-09, 08:45 PM
Cnut! Another member with the Revo's! How much you pay £344 each?

Iain
29-05-09, 09:00 PM
About that yeah

trackdaynova
29-05-09, 09:12 PM
You won't regret the purchase of those seats Iain... well cool :D

burgo
29-05-09, 10:07 PM
you cock!!! i funking love them seats :( so jealous

Iain
30-05-09, 11:15 AM
You won't regret the purchase of those seats Iain... well cool :D

Already do lol The XL version is gonna be a TIGHT fit to mount!!!

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/160.JPG

Passenger one where I want it is going to sit right over the seatbelt mount:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/161.JPG

Not much room to bring it towards the middle:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/162.JPG

How the drivers needs to be, the cross bracing gets in the way:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/163.JPG

So I can either mount the passenger seat the same as the drivers seat, or attempt to bring it in towards the exhaust tunnel and poke the harness through a small gap.

Drivers will need the bracing cutting out and it should squeeze in, I hope.

trackdaynova
30-05-09, 12:08 PM
How come you went with XL? Any particular reason?

Iain
30-05-09, 12:15 PM
Went to Demon Tweeks and sat in all the seats, the one they had on display was the XL size and it was really comfy and supportive without being too tight. The standard size Revenge was wayyy too tight for me so figured XL is best.

It's gonna be a tight fit in the car :(

trackdaynova
30-05-09, 12:36 PM
Suprised at that, only because I sat in a XL, and it felt a bit sloppy jo, and too much movement, having sat in a standard width, i fit alot better in that one!

That said, maybe I have a slimbum lol

draper
30-05-09, 12:44 PM
you have a welder and a grinder, anything fits ;)


what you doing with the old seats ?

Iain
30-05-09, 12:49 PM
Yeah it's a weird one Olly, I look skinny but must have wide hips as I couldn't even fit them in to some of the seats. lol

Angle grinder you say? Chopped out all metal that was remotely in the way lol Can be tidied up later

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/164.JPG

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/165.JPG

I think the issue I'm having is worsened by the sidemounts - they easily add an inch width per side. Think I'm going to ditch them and get some flat ones, which would give me this kind of width:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/166.JPG

And this kind of room:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/167.JPG

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/168.JPG

Old seats, dunno, for sale probs when I finally have some that fit to my car lol

trackdaynova
30-05-09, 12:58 PM
What are / were your old seats?

Good hacking action bud, I'd remove the complete 'brace' that goes across the floor tho, whilst you're at it, at least then you have a flat surface to work on, maybe?

Iain
30-05-09, 01:07 PM
Corbeau Forza, base mounted on proper tailored Nova subframes - ahhh the joys of something that bolts straight in with no fuss.

Yeah I might chop the brace out, annoyingly I've stitch welded the bugger in so won't be trying to drill out the spot welds :cry:

I reckon something like this would solve my problems:
http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/resources/images/zoom/omp_HC_730_E_08.jpg
http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/products/ProductDetail.asp?cls=MSPORT&pcode=OMPHC/730EBLK

AlexW
30-05-09, 02:30 PM
Looking good gayboy, Give me price on old seats :p

One thing tho, clean the metal when you weld it, much better welds then.

Iain
30-05-09, 03:03 PM
I use a grinder with wire wheel attachment before welding. The latest pics look like I haven't cleaned it up because I was using some 'weld through zinc primer' or something like that.

Iain
30-05-09, 07:10 PM
After this mornings disaster with the seats, I cracked on with other stuff. I accidentally made an alternator cutout so I guess I'll have to fit a 20XE, oh well.

Marked out:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/169.JPG

Cut out:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/170.JPG

Shamelessly copied Count Vaux Alot: (http://www.pngclub.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1084665&postcount=211)

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/171.JPG

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/172.JPG

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/173.JPG

And welded up my rear seatbelt holes for a smoother look:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/174.JPG

Jay
30-05-09, 08:04 PM
Nice!

Benn
30-05-09, 10:17 PM
Good work dude!

draper
31-05-09, 12:57 AM
i still reckon my baby will out do your gay big block+

Adam
31-05-09, 12:05 PM
I accidentally made an alternator cutout so I guess I'll have to fit a 20XE, oh well.

FPMSL, best quote ever!!! lol lol lol
Good lad!!!

Draper, ive driven both, big xe's destroy baby xe's ;) :p lol

Iain
31-05-09, 05:31 PM
I must work really slow, as I've only managed to get my splash guards sorted today.

Fruity template made:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/175.JPG

On to old bonnet:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/176.JPG

Cut out:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/177.JPG

Stubby splash guard cleaned to bare metal:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/178.JPG

Tacking on with new wing in place to get a good fit:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/179.JPG

Crap welding, couldn't get a good flow, but it's on and not moving:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/180.JPG

Stitched on at back:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/181.JPG

Finished articles:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/182.JPG

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/183.JPG

Also cleaned up drivers side arch. Given them both lots of rust killer and will etch prime them later:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/184.JPG

Adam
31-05-09, 05:35 PM
Got a xe yet????

Iain
31-05-09, 05:42 PM
I'll have yours when you wrap it around a tree :plol

Adam
31-05-09, 05:44 PM
Oh thanks :roll: :roll: :roll:

Iain
31-05-09, 05:46 PM
Don't worry I'll wrap mine around a tree too; I'm getting used to 1.1 Fiesta power.

Adam
31-05-09, 05:51 PM
lmao, wait till you floor a xe then......
compared to a 1.1 fiesta... hmmm lol

Iain
31-05-09, 06:07 PM
Front arches came up well. No doubt the rust will come back through again a month after I've had it on the road.

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/185.JPG

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/186.JPG

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/187.JPG

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/188.JPG

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/189.JPG

scott.parker
31-05-09, 07:20 PM
Getting there mate!

Looks like it should be a nice car wen finished.

Scott

Jay
31-05-09, 07:22 PM
Coming along well

Iain
05-06-09, 05:14 PM
Rang Beevers auto panels in the week to order my rear quarters. Made it quite clear I was going to pick them up to avoid damage (as recommended by Paul off here), thought that was that and then they arrived in the post :roll:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/190.JPG

One is good:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/191.JPG

The other is damaged:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/192.JPG

So will be ringing them on Monday and asking for a replacement... Collected, if they know what that means. :roll:

Mike
05-06-09, 05:27 PM
Looking good cheif, TBH i reckon that dint in the arch would ping out tho?

Iain
05-06-09, 05:38 PM
I can push it out slightly but it doesn't take its original shape. The lip is bent out of shape too and there's an "outy" dent on the square arch bit which I can imagine being a pain to get looking nice.

Don't see the point in spending £70 odd to mess about with dents.

Mike
05-06-09, 05:39 PM
Don't see the point in spending £70 odd to mess about with dents.

Thats true yea, TBH you might be better of returning in person & collecting a new one whilst your there?

Iain
05-06-09, 05:41 PM
That's the plan, the same plan I had all along (minus returning dented ones)! lol

Mike
05-06-09, 05:46 PM
That's the plan, the same plan I had all along (minus returning dented ones)! lol

Sorted then, give them a slap whilst you there too :D

Adam
05-06-09, 05:58 PM
Could you not just go up there and buy two "over the counter" ?

Iain
05-06-09, 06:05 PM
They have to order it in for the next day, which is why I ordered/paid for them on the phone.

Benn
05-06-09, 06:23 PM
Awesome work on the splash guard!
Get a good sealer and then paint them body colour and the under side should stay good.

Quarters good good, well bar the 2dents.

Iain
06-06-09, 10:43 AM
Nice chap on the phone at Beevers today, he's going to order me in a new drivers quarter and I'll go up and replace it :thumb:

Thanks Benn, going white underneath/arches is why I went for fabricated splash guards as my current plastic ones (Corsa B IIRC) are black.

Iain
08-06-09, 06:48 PM
Drilled out all visible spot welds this afternoon, just got to work out where the inner tub meets the arch - if anybody has any info please share.

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/193.JPG

Looks a bit of a mess but should straighten out ok:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/194.JPG

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/195.JPG

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/196.JPG

Also for fitting on the B & C pillars and sill, should I overlap the new panel over the current bit or should I cut it so they sit flush together?

Benn
08-06-09, 06:50 PM
They meet on the lip. Thats why grinder them breaks the seal and they rust worse.

If you can get a *cant remember name* tool it makes a lip on the edge of the pannel, so you over lap them but they sit in the lip so they still lay flat.

Iain
08-06-09, 07:06 PM
They meet on the lip. Thats why grinder them breaks the seal and they rust worse.

That'll be fun, drilling out spot welds from a rusted, filled and rolled arch! :(

scott.parker
08-06-09, 07:10 PM
Don't bother then, just cut it off and then create another lip with some more steel to over lap the two?

burgo
08-06-09, 07:16 PM
They meet on the lip. Thats why grinder them breaks the seal and they rust worse.

If you can get a *cant remember name* tool it makes a lip on the edge of the pannel, so you over lap them but they sit in the lip so they still lay flat.

that'll be a joggler

Spudly
08-06-09, 08:16 PM
Good work lemon youre a very brave lad doing it all yourself keep it up:thumb:

Iain
11-06-09, 08:59 PM
Thanks all, I'm having at least an attempt at everything so we'll see what it turns out like lol

Today's carnage/weight saving:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/197.JPG

Cross brace removed to make way for seat rails:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/198.JPG

Got to grips with spot weld drilling now:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/199.JPG

Well, almost. These ones are so thick they're a real pain to get off without damaging the wafer thin floor!

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/200.JPG

Fixing my mess:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/201.JPG

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/202.JPG

Rust treated (as it had all rusted where it meets the floor!) and etch primered:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/203.JPG

Iain
11-06-09, 08:59 PM
Bit of filler on the exhaust tunnel where the grinder touched the floor:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/204.JPG

Rear seat brackets smoothed (again, welding the rear chassis legs cracked most of it off lol):

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/205.JPG

Smoothed rear seatbelt holes is hopefully a unique touch:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/206.JPG

Started smoothing the slam panel where I welded in new plates. It won't look factory (they have a little drainage hole under where the wing meets it) but it'll look neat:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/207.JPG

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/208.JPG

Aerial fully smoothed off and finished:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/209.JPG

Dent in the door fixed, needs a bit more work in the middle but almost sorted:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/210.JPG

burgo
11-06-09, 09:05 PM
i love you iain

scott.parker
12-06-09, 12:24 AM
What about the car you gay? lol

Getting there mate, starting to shape up.

AlexW
12-06-09, 12:45 AM
You spend so much time making it lighter and then put filler into it.

Just kidding dude, Looks good. Hurry up and get it finished.

Love you gayboy.

Iain
12-06-09, 06:16 PM
I'm trying to use a minimal amount of filler to get it looking good. :)

Off with the old rear quarter today.

Cut along the B and C pillars, but lower than the repair panel so I've got some scope or trimming it perfectly:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/211.JPG

Lopped it in half to get most of the panel off:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/212.JPG

Gone:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/213.JPG

Managed to save this on the car, so can retain the door nut thing:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/214.JPG

Cut all around the lip as it was rusty and manky:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/215.JPG

More spot welds:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/216.JPG

Almost...

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/217.JPG

Off:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/218.JPG

More spot welds along here to remove the lower section:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/219.JPG

Iain
12-06-09, 06:17 PM
Trial fit of the new quarter, seems a good fit!

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/220.JPG

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/221.JPG

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/222.JPG

Naked car!

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/223.JPG

Worst of the rot:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/224.JPG

So cut it out and plated it up:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/225.JPG

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/226.JPG

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/227.JPG

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/228.JPG

Iain
12-06-09, 06:17 PM
Also realised while hacking out my brackets I would need something here for the seat rail. Here's where the handbrake sits (granted after quite a few clicks) which would hit the rail:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/229.JPG

Mocked something up:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/230.JPG

And welded on. Left the back open as otherwise things would fall in and be a pain to get out. Also welded a strip to the floor first to spread the load.

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/231.JPG

Iain
12-06-09, 06:22 PM
Currently waiting on a pair of seat subframes to arrive from Magnum Motorsport. Hopefully be the same as this one I've borrowed off Tom Reid:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/232.JPG

These give more room for harnesses and slight adjustments in the seat position. Would like quite the seat rails in before the rear quarters are done as the quarters tend to collect dust and rubbish inside them.

All that's left is seat rails, fit rear quarter, remove and fit drivers quarter, then strip the underneath off and stonechip + paint!

scott.parker
12-06-09, 06:25 PM
Good progress mate!

Like them seat rails, might look into some...

Benn
12-06-09, 08:37 PM
Dude! Funk.

Good woork tho.

peester
12-06-09, 10:22 PM
christ! :-o

be at billing??

top work mate

novaload1992
12-06-09, 10:32 PM
:thumb:

tom reid
12-06-09, 10:50 PM
I'm impressed mate.

Adam
13-06-09, 01:16 AM
Awesome work Iain, takes some b***ocks to go cutting big panels off your car.

Iain
13-06-09, 01:50 PM
Doubt it'll be at any shows this year! Thanks all, it's not that bad when you get stuck in to it.

scott.parker
13-06-09, 01:55 PM
Dude bit off topic, but what head light bulbs was it you had in the nova?

Scott

Iain
13-06-09, 02:15 PM
Very off topic lol I had Osram Silverstar (http://www.picbits.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/22_40_45/products_id/99) bulbs.

scott.parker
13-06-09, 02:50 PM
Cheers dude, just remember them being very good bulbs etc.

silvertornado_sr
13-06-09, 03:10 PM
some very good work i see there iain :) when get my nova running will nip over and have a look at some of the work :)

Iain
13-06-09, 05:31 PM
Some progress on the seat brackets.

3mm Spreader plates, roughly 70mm x 70mm:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/233.JPG

Which will sit roughly like this:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/234.JPG

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/235.JPG

Aiming to have the passenger seat around here:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/236.JPG

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/237.JPG

Some room to get to the harness mounting eyebolt now:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/238.JPG

Seat rails will be made from 25mm x 25mm x 3mm box section (my pole only just fits in my garage, har har):

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/239.JPG

Cut to roughly the right size:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/240.JPG

Iain
13-06-09, 05:35 PM
"All this looks very heavy!" I hear you cry.

All 8 spreader plates weigh roughly 1kg:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/241.JPG

And 2 seat rails weigh roughly 2kg:

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/242.JPG

http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/243.JPG

So each seat rail setup will weigh approx 2.5kg. Each seat weighs approx 6.6kg. This is a combined weight of 9.1kg per side - a saving of nearly 6kg per seat over the original setup.

burgo
13-06-09, 06:20 PM
good lad for weighing it all

peester
13-06-09, 06:40 PM
the seat is awesome.. proper suggestive

Adam
13-06-09, 07:20 PM
Nice one, so your old buckets/frames were around 15kg each???