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LoonTim
23-01-09, 07:03 PM
The pipe coming from the back of the back box towards the engine has snapped at the weld onto the box,,,so i need a new back box peice for the loon,,,anyone know where i can get one? also i was reading the post by adam/aragon on tuning 1.2i,,,i wanted to fit a sri pre-cat full exhaust system (including manifold) but just been searching the forum about fitting hatch systems onto a saloon, what i want to know is are the manifold and down pipe (mainly the peice without the cat which i swap with my cat pipe)(j-reg so dont need a cat for mot???) a different length? cheers:)

Nobby
23-01-09, 07:06 PM
i would assume that the manifold is the same on all novas mate, its just the middle piece and back box thats different. i was looking at my loon backbox today and to me the backbox is the same with just a longet tail exit so just see if you can get a 2nd hand 1 and chop the end off and try it??

AlexW
23-01-09, 07:11 PM
I couldnt understand your post but im presuming yours is a 1.2 SPI? so thus your need to find a SRI manifold if you want a SR/GSI downpipe. But the simple option is to buy a 1.2 carb downpipe and front center section.

Graeme
23-01-09, 07:12 PM
Thats all I did, bought a second hand Magnex backbox ent cut and extended it just before the tailpipe, before i extended it it constantly smelt of exhaust fumes in the car

General Baxter
23-01-09, 07:13 PM
rear box, £7 brand new GM item

http://www.vauxhall-car-parts.co.uk/acatalog/Nova-Fuel-Exhaust.html

LoonTim
23-01-09, 07:15 PM
its a 1.2i (dunno about spi) and no 'need' for an sri manifold just wanted to improve it a bit and as i beleive i dont need a cat wanted to get a non-cat pipe which i thought the (?early?) sri's had?

LoonTim
23-01-09, 07:16 PM
thanks alot baxter for the link,,,brill mate

LoonTim
23-01-09, 07:43 PM
cheers general baxter,,,just orederd my back box, £17 inc. postage...not bad.

Asa-James
23-01-09, 07:47 PM
i have a "debaffled" loon backbox with an oval tailpipe welded on, needs some work to te rear panel to make it sit right (mine was mostly rust, so i just removed bits) yours if you want it bud


edit--nevermind!

LoonTim
23-01-09, 07:57 PM
were abouts in cheshire are you mate,,,a bit trigger happy with the buying me thinks lol how much you want for it?

Jack
23-01-09, 08:16 PM
Saloon exhaust is the same as the equivalent hatch item, aside from the tailpipe which is longer.


its a 1.2i (dunno about spi) and no 'need' for an sri manifold just wanted to improve it a bit and as i beleive i dont need a cat wanted to get a non-cat pipe which i thought the (?early?) sri's had?
SPI = Single Point Injection, of which yours is.

J reg won't need a cat for emissions.

AlexW
23-01-09, 08:17 PM
So thus your need a 1.2 carb system unless you go for the twin downpipe stuff.

Spudly
23-01-09, 08:20 PM
So thus your need a 1.2 carb system unless you go for the twin downpipe stuff.


And he puts his lambda sensor where exactly then if he gets a carb system?

Asa-James
23-01-09, 08:25 PM
£5? im about 5 mins from j19 m6, near knutsford/northwich

Sloth
23-01-09, 08:32 PM
hi. use a corsa 1.2 spi manifold the lambda is in it, and a carb down pipe, then whatever else. hatch and saloon centre is same btw.

AlexW
23-01-09, 08:42 PM
And he puts his lambda sensor where exactly then if he gets a carb system?

manifold is the same, lamba is in the manifold

LoonTim
23-01-09, 08:45 PM
NovaSR-ish,,,pm me your postcode and i'll see if i can persuade my dad to call round before or after college early next week if possible,,,aslong as its not to far as of course i dont actually need it anymore!!! lol.
Supersloth,,,i wanted something to make it a bit nippier, would a 1.2 spi manifold off a corsa not be any different to the one on it,,,i know that on its own it wont really make any difference but over time as i slowly collect more bits n peices it might be a decent little motor lol so what de-cat could i put on the 1.2corsa manifold?

Spudly
23-01-09, 08:45 PM
No theyre not, an spi system has a hole for the lambda sensor in the downpipe (which is part of the system) whereas a carb one does not!

Your move kid!

LoonTim
23-01-09, 08:48 PM
i'm not interested in a carb system, i understand i need a lambda sensor m8 cheers

Sloth
23-01-09, 08:54 PM
hi. use a corsa 1.2 spi manifold the lambda is in it, and a carb down pipe, then whatever else. hatch and saloon centre is same btw.


this gives you a 4 into 1 and a lambda for ya spi. its a slightly bigger bore and smaller silencers. budget good system.

LoonTim
23-01-09, 08:56 PM
sounds good mate i'll keep an eye out for one, cheers.

Spudly
23-01-09, 08:57 PM
Hate to say it but numpty boy is correct in using a corsa sytem bud, listen to himj he actually knows stuff unlike others lol

LoonTim
23-01-09, 09:07 PM
thats 2 votes for the corsa system then, spudly should i get the down pipe aswell or use mine,,,could i just swap mine with this? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CORSA-B-MANIFOLD-1-2-1-4-8-VALVE_W0QQitemZ260351033349QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_C arsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item26035103334 9&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1301%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C 240%3A1318

AlexW
23-01-09, 09:15 PM
No theyre not, an spi system has a hole for the lambda sensor in the downpipe (which is part of the system) whereas a carb one does not!

Your move kid!

Please find a pic of this? I have 3 spi engines sat at home, they all have it in the manifold. Whats your problem with me latly?!

Sloth
23-01-09, 09:17 PM
yeah get that and a nova carb down pipe matey

LoonTim
23-01-09, 09:20 PM
so the 1.2spi manifold (on ebay) with AWO6's carb down pipe? this is confusing lol

Sloth
23-01-09, 09:24 PM
yes. then fit any centre section, instant de cat.

LoonTim
23-01-09, 09:26 PM
sweet, i take it my lambda is on the manifold yes? possibly last q. lol

Spudly
23-01-09, 09:26 PM
Please find a pic of this? I have 3 spi engines sat at home, they all have it in the manifold. Whats your problem with me latly?!


My spi had the lamda in the down pipe, the manifold is only teh bit out of the ports and an inch or two down, the downpipe is seperate and is where the lambda lives.

I aint got a prob with you only the fact you aint as accurate in your facts as you think!

AlexW
23-01-09, 09:38 PM
Im just saying that in my experiance they have been on the manifold.

OP if you do need a manifold i have one here, cover postage and its yours.

LoonTim
23-01-09, 09:41 PM
i'll pm u