new here,,,weller steel wheels? for ins. reasons

[LoonTim]

Hi, (didnt kno if there was anywhere i should introduce myself like on some forums but couldnt find anywhere so decided not to), for insurance reasons i.e. cost of alloys at 17 i was wandering about other alternatives...the obvious are SR steelies then i got thinking about weller wheels as seen mainly on mini's and fords. Anyone know if they would fit or/and what would be needed to make em fit ('92 5dr Nova saloon)?

Cheers
Tim

[draper]

yeah they fit, search the projects forum for '100pound nova' he has some fitted

[Jack]

I thought weller steels came in quite a low offset?

In terms of insurance though, you will still have to declare them as they are an aftermarket modification.

Welcome to PNG by the way :D

[Jay]

Yes they are quite low jack, would be ok on a saloon though, unless your going "burgo" low...

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e46/jays_nova/2961389253_edccd2593a.jpg

[draper]

^^ they did foul the arches slightly but nothing we couldnt hammer out :D

[hc coupe]

I painted VW G60/golf "winter wheels" wheels white .... ET 36 however but look good for the money.

[Jay]

What's the offset on those wellers do you know draper?

[LoonTim]

RazorJack - I am hoping that being steel wheels they wont almost double my ins. when i pass and go on my policy like the alloys on it now will, although i know i will have to declare them,,,cheers.
Anyone know where to get them from? They wernt the ones i was actually thinking of though even though they are way smart, i will get some pics of the ones i want...cheers

[draper]

What's the offset on those wellers do you know draper?

not a clue tbh, i can find out tho :thumb:

[LoonTim]

I dont think there'll be any problems with clearance mate, when you see it you'll know what i mean,,,deffo needs lowering but it'll have to wait.
I seriously doubt the alloys on now have the correct offset, they were on a corsa but the lad who had it before me couldnt insure them on it so chucked em on the loon when he sold it.
I will try and get some pics up,,,do you have to have 15 posts to put pics up?

[Jack]

I will try and get some pics up,,,do you have to have 15 posts to put pics up?
Yep.

I'm sure someone posted a link a little while ago to a site that had all shapes and sizes of Weller wheels... have a nose on the search and see what comes up. I have a feeling it was in the styling forum somewhere...

[Shaun_O'Donnell]

Welcome to PNG fellow SAloon Brother. lol


p.s. you have a 4 door, not a 5.

[LoonTim]

fair enough a 4 door it is:) lol
havnt found the link yet razor but found some good ideas will continue to look, for now got a driving lesson...in a ford fiesta:D

cheers

[L14MNP]

You only class the boot as another door if the back window is part of the boot. That should be written across the top of every forum lol

Nice choice on Wellers dude, there's some bargains about. See if you can beat my 1.98 eBay steal for 4 :D

[draper]

Nice choice on Wellers dude, there's some bargains about. See if you can beat my 1.98 eBay steal for 4 :D

that was only because no-one posted the link on here :roll: :p lol

[Sloth]

roflmao, deemon tweeks do wellers in their racing (red) brochure. not cheap tho. what bout banded steelies?

[L14MNP]

Banded steels will kill you if you drive your car properly lol. Wellers have been around since the 70's iirc so there's a lot of them about, easy to recon and ideal for bouncing off curbs lol

Draper it's cos the guy who listed them was a total retard, the title was 'Wheals' and nothing else - yeah even spelled wrong.
BTW it was two separate auctions, no-one else had bid 99p lol

[LoonTim]

Yer i shulda known that aswell it was the first thing they taught us at college,,,different body types and engine layouts,,,lol
1.98!!! thats a bargain,,,fair do's to him for sticking with the sale alot of people would have refused to carry out thier end of the deal.

[LoonTim]

wat about pug 106 rallye steelies? they wuld look the dogs...
did you put your wellers on a nova L14MNP? got any pics?
How do you measure offset or does it have to be done at a garage???
cheers

[Jack]

Offset you can measure yourself, or it should be stamped on the wheel somewhere.

Pug 106 has a different PCD to the Nova does it not? Anyway the offset on pugs of that era is silly low as far as I'm aware...

[L14MNP]

That's the beauty of Wellers, with them being steel you can redrill the PCD. Aye Pug is 4x108. With them goin on a Nova offset will definitely be a problem.

I don't have any pics cos mine are on a Volvo lol. I just hang around here cos I like the smell.

Here's the Nova on Wellers that was mentioned earlier dude, dunno if you've seen it http://www.pngclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=106518
They are 13x7 I've been told. No idead about the ET though.

[LoonTim]

fair do's.
couple of q.
wat does 'PCD' stand for?
What exactly does 'ET' stand for and mean? getting confused lol

[Jay]

Pcd means pitch circle diameter, to put it short fords, pugs, and Citroen's are 4x108 and most other cars like vaux are 4x100, Et means offset, to cut it short your need an offset of 49 or as close to that as possible. :thumb: Cba to go into detail. Jay.

[Benn]

Yes they are quite low jack, would be ok on a saloon though, unless your going "burgo" low...


Thats not low.

[LoonTim]

ahh cheers jay,,,so the 16'' ford wellers wouldnt be any good. hmm...
anyone know what the offset on the 13's used on mini's etc are?
would love to find out what the offset of the alloys on it now are...they are 15x7 maybe 7.5 will find out tomorrow.
cheers

[Jay]

Thats not low.

Is imo.

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e46/jays_nova/00000023.jpg

[Jay]

ahh cheers jay,,,so the 16'' ford wellers wouldnt be any good. hmm...
anyone know what the offset on the 13's used on mini's etc are?
would love to find out what the offset of the alloys on it now are...they are 15x7 maybe 7.5 will find out tomorrow.
cheers

So the alloys you want are 15x7 maybe 7.5? If there et 49 they wont fit without spacers.

[Jack]

fair do's.
couple of q.
wat does 'PCD' stand for?
What exactly does 'ET' stand for and mean? getting confused lol
As said, Pitch Circle Diameter. In the case of 4 stud wheels, its the distance of each hole from the centre of the wheel (Novas are 4 stud and 100mm - 4x100)

ET is offset - the distance between the wheel mounting face and centreline of the rim. Lower offset means the mounting face is closer to the centre, so the wheel sticks out from the car. Higher offset means the mounting face is further from the centreline, so the wheel will sit further into the car. Novas use et49, so try to get as close to that as possible.

[LoonTim]

no mate the alloys on it now are 15x7 atleast, very wide, does not handle lol dont know how they are fitted or what size, they on it when i got it but they going as soon as a) insurance (17y.o) b)doesnt handle well c) low profiles make it very uncomfortable, i travel to college 30mile one way!!! which is why i want the steelies

[Jay]

Get some pics up of these y0 alloys..

[LoonTim]

cheers razor explains it well,,,alloys on it now you can just about see the edges of them when you standing behind the car!!! dont think it would even pass an MOT!!! Will get some pics once i've have the qualifications lol

[LoonTim]

they TSW's, look pretty smart but are in a sh1t3 state were intended for a corsa but as i said he culdnt afford to insure em so chucked em on the nova when he sold it to get rid of em. now i dont want em

[Jay]

.... Venoms? Like these.... ?.....
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e46/jays_nova/untitled-2.jpg

[LoonTim]

no m8 not quite as cool as them i'm afraid

[Welsh Dan]

As said, Pitch Circle Diameter. In the case of 4 stud wheels, its the distance of each hole from the centre of the wheel (Novas are 4 stud and 100mm - 4x100)

Nope :p .

Its the diameter of the circle that all of the holes lie on.

[Jay]

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[Jay]

no m8 not quite as cool as them i'm afraid

Oh ok then...

[LoonTim]

been on google images n i think they TSW Trackstar 5's

[Jay]

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e46/jays_nova/trackstar5lug_black_reg_pop_white.jpg

[LoonTim]

they very similar, i'm pretty sure thats em but they silver (i wish they were black!!!)

[LoonTim]

also they 5 stud in the pic

[Jay]

Get some pics up, you have 15 post now, get some up of the nova too.

[LoonTim]

http://i696.photobucket.com/albums/vv327/novaloontim/S1051229.jpg

[LoonTim]

how do you change size of pic? how?

[Jay]

Wooo miami blue saloon! :) I like, get them hidious wheels off!

[Jack]

In photobucket, find the pic, click edit and you should have an option to resize

[L14MNP]

Mini's are 4x101 or something very close to VX. Redrill the VX stud pattern or maybe you can persuade them to fit, or use wobble bolts.

Also make sure the centre bore will fit!

Tim, cool number plate font, old style FTW

[Jack]

Nope :p .

Its the diameter of the circle that all of the holes lie on.
Cock, yes, I got confused between diameter and radius. 4x200 would be like truck wheels lol

[LoonTim]

yer, alloys are going deffo m8, thanks for all the advice, just sorting out the pics then i'll get the rest up plus the steelies i want, cheers

[Jay]

Make a project thread. :thumb:

[sulphur]

Christ that needs slammin on its @rse. Nice colour though, looks good on a loon.

[LoonTim]

problem with a project thread is, being at college i dont really have the money to do anything with it, the only reason why i'm changing to steelies is cus as i said earlier, comfort and in the long run it will save me money mainly

[LoonTim]

http://i696.photobucket.com/albums/vv327/novaloontim/5891-1.jpg
steelies i want but the 'pcd' (?) looks rather large, or maybe these...http://i696.photobucket.com/albums/vv327/novaloontim/141797727_tp.jpg

[Jay]

Banded steels FTW i'd say
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e46/jays_nova/IMG_4286.jpg

Also please lower it.
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e46/jays_nova/S1051229copy.jpg

[LoonTim]

looks sweet lowered,,,u paying? lol culdnt just put it on springs wuld have to go springs n shocks kit,
found some 6x13 wellers on ebay with a PCD 4x100 but he doesnt know what the offset is...might just go wid some sr steelies, are banded steels legal, i culda sworn i read somewere they not legal???

[Jay]

looks sweet lowered,,,u paying? lol culdnt just put it on springs wuld have to go springs n shocks kit,
found some 6x13 wellers on ebay with a PCD 4x100 but he doesnt know what the offset is...might just go wid some sr steelies, are banded steels legal, i culda sworn i read somewere they not legal???

Get the wellers! Its a saloon, will look good what ever they are, if it gets lowered

[LoonTim]

sorry, wat am i on about...13x6 lol

[LoonTim]

it will get lowered eventually, if i can get a part time job 2 days a week then i'll be laughing n will be able to do some mods to it.
will definatly be keeping a close eye on the wellers, only prob they in york, that sounds a long way a way lol

[sulphur]

Banded steels look the nuts! Lowering is a must for loons.

Starmags look well on loons too, 7x13 4x100, unsure of the offset though. I'm sure someone had them on a loon before...maybe that one that had the widearach kit? *hunts for a pic*

Edit: This looks the nuts!!

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/xrwood/SP_A0205.jpg

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/xrwood/SP_A0206.jpg

Not exactly legal though, lol

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/xrwood/SP_A0207.jpg

[LoonTim]

yer i have read through that one, looks smart as,,,unfortuanatly lowering isnt an option at the mo and beleive me i do know it needs lowering, my dads sick of me saying it, maybe soon...get me wheels first!

[Sloth]

man that was on the bay a bit ago, its the same as my old un! bandeds are legal as long as theyre done by a cerrtified welder. id get some cors c 15" steelies and get the rim reversed, or 13" minilites and deck it

[Benn]

man that was on the bay a bit ago, its the same as my old un! bandeds are legal as long as theyre done by a cerrtified welder. id get some cors c 15" steelies and get the rim reversed, or 13" minilites and deck it

Theres no law on banded rims at all. Its all down to your safty.