if you had a mint gsi

[Novaboyleon]

Right, if you had a mint gsi nova in silk violet, all original apart from the usual subtle mods but with standard mint interiour bodywork etc. would you leave it as it is with sweet recently fully rebuilt 1600 engine to keep it as a future classic, or do you stick a redtop in it like al the others and ruin and de-value it?

Theres not enought mint standard top spec novas left around no more imo, want to get this across to my mate dave!

[General Baxter]

if id have one?

id just chop the crap out of it, lol


leave it small block 8v ;)

[nova_saloon]

well depends what you want it for. it would be nice to see standard ones around !

[Novaboyleon]

exactly, the only novas to be redtopped imo is base models like merits etc, unless you keep them standard minters

[Jay]

exactly, the only novas to be redtopped imo is base models like merits etc, unless you keep them standard minters

Seconded. :thumb:

[amggsi]

I've 2 GSi's and both are staying standard small block!!

[meritlover]

if i had another standard Nova i would have sex with it every night. clean std cars should never be modified.

[Novaboyleon]

suspension upgrade and wheels are the only really necessary change i think

[Pistol Pete]

Why would sticking a redtop in it de-value it and ruin it?

lol stick one in and have some fun in it. Its not like a GSI is a rare model, like a sport.

And when you say subtle mods, you mean.....?

[just vaux trev]

i had an imaculate silky gsi about 4 years ago loved it to bits just the way it was spax 60mm and speedline 2020's thats it,
and some smack rat stole it and wrapped it round a post, hence the looker in sig, but nothing will replace it,agreed on the basic model upgrades,and mild upgrades on the rarer specs

[Novaboyleon]

indeed top spec models are worth more in more standard form i think

[Benn]

I dont want a slik one, gotta be a black one.

And as youve allready said its got " usual subtle mods " so its not standard so might aswell change the engine and so on.

[Novaboyleon]

would you say redtop a nova sport? gte and gsi novas will become as rare and sought after as the sport soon i think

[*Dave*]

leon!

my car isnt standard and the mintest.
speedlines,coilover,v6 brakes,full exhaust system,heated seats,momo steering wheel,sound system,ETC.

i am not throwing loads of money at my 1.6 to make it faster when i can XE it for half the price.

id like to leave the 1.6 in but ii want it faster, END OF!

i completly understand what you are saying but as (NOVA SALOON) has said above, ''it depends what you want it for''.



and one last thing its too late to go back.
1.6 lump is sold,engine bay welded ready for paint and the xe alomost built.

[chris gsi]

i do like a nice standard gsi but i did change mine a bit from standard

[Novaboyleon]

arrrghhhhhhh george, just wanted to get a few opinions thas all ol boy, you kno what i mean tho, when looking to but a gsi or gte like i was a little while back early last year its hard to find one that doesnt hav an xe in it!

[Benn]

would you say redtop a nova sport? gte and gsi novas will become as rare and sought after as the sport soon i think

People have. But the sport was a proper LT, as there where only so many made.
The gsi and gsi was a full run. So now as rare or special.

[Novaboyleon]

you dont see hardly any around though anymore!

[EUROTURBO]

as much as it would be nice to keep a standard GSI in pristine condition, you want to start with a high spec base car in my opinion to get the best outta what you want, if you want a track slag then i see your point and base models the way to go but for a high qualtity finish of a GSI. theres only a few ones around and to be fair they do look good.

[*Dave*]

just because im going to beat you leon, dont try and make me feel guilty.

i want to wipe the smile from peoples faces when i fly past them in their saxo's and bmw's and so on........

[Benn]

So? You dont see that manny spins but there where still thousens made is my point.

All depends if you can drive a standard car about. I couldnt, anless it was made to be better that vx could build it, much like Dec has.

[Novaboyleon]

just because im going to beat you, dont try and make me feel guilty.


oh no no no george we not in no competition, as im not cheating, anyways its nothing to bragg about beating 1.6's when you have a 2.0, i'd like to see though how well i might do against you even with my subtle engine mods

[Big_Chap]

would you say redtop a nova sport? gte and gsi novas will become as rare and sought after as the sport soon i think


Jon shield of courtenay did it...

I also have an xe'd gsi and is definitely worth more than a standard gsi so not sure where the devalued comment comes from.

Always liked silk violet along with diamond black and with them being rare in that colour these days I'd be tempted to keep it standard but as said it ain't standard so doesn't matter too much. And you can always fire a 1600 back in it if they become so sought after but I can't really see them being THAT sought after, also, it's pretty easy to replicate a gsi and there are probably more reps than originals

[Novaboyleon]

thats what i mean its ok maybe to do it to a replica but originals aint easy to find

[draper]

its only a bloody nova lol

the whole charm of novas is you can make them pretty quick (baby XEs/XEs/LETS etc) for next to nothing

[Rick Draper]

I would LET it.

[vauxmad_kev]

If I had a mint silk violet GSi... and I wanted a tarmac eating beast, I'd get another Nova and drop the red top into that.

It is my personal opinion that silk violet is the nicest colour. I would love a GSi in that colour ever since my friend had one a few years ago.

I wouldn't do it, but then... that's only my 50 pence worth.

[Leeboo]

A mint Silk Violet GSi....

...... Lowered 60mm on good shocks and springs, K&N panel filter, and sunroof open.

Done.

Silk Violet is a rare colour in GSi's but IMO not the nicest.

[7ova]

A mint Silk Violet GSi....

...... Lowered 60mm on good shocks and springs, K&N panel filter, and sunroof open.

Done.

Silk Violet is a rare colour in GSi's but IMO not the nicest.

which colour do you think?

[Leeboo]

I think diamond black metallic is the nicest, with either white or red coming second.

All in my opinion of course, theres a lot to be said for a tidy silk violet too.

[chris gsi]

whites the best colour lol

[Mike]

Id stash it in a garage for a couple of 10 years, then break it into a million pieces come 2020 and eBay the lot :D

[7ova]

i had i j reg silk violet gsi and a k reg red gsi about a 10 months ago
put them both back to standard and sold them on, made a good profit ;)
i have a mistral grey gsi now which i am rebuilding to keep.
grey gets my vote

[Mike]

Nah, white.

[7ova]

white does look well when original (apart from alloys and suspension mods)
but because i have one grey 100%

[Riggy]

white , black , red , grey , silver , silk violet

[vaughanmc]

If I had a mint GSi and it was original I'd likely keep the standard 1.6 engine in it but lower it slightly :)

Each to their own though

[L14MNP]

I'm with Mike. Mothball it for a decade or two then reap the rewards lol

[Lee H]

Standard GSi's are lame. They need an engine conversion and better suspension at the very least.

Don't see the big appeal of standard Nova's at all.

[Big_Chap]

Not that rare, 3 GTEs, 1 GSI and about 10 sr's on pistonheads, all original!

[sport]

Yawn not this again, had this thread the other day with an SR.

Right if i had this GSI your on about i would remove the engine and replace with a 1.0l better on fuel!!! lol

[nick_nova]

xe it :) faster the better...

[Smurf-Xx]

I'd leave it as it is. I'd be happy with that seeing as though I drive a ****ed 1.2!

[Plug]

i stick my 50cc aprillia engine in the

[L33 LEG]

its a nova. forget about how much itl be worth in a few years/decades time. stick whatever engine you want in it, do whatever you want to it, and enjoy it :)

[s14a]

im looking to but a mint standardish gsi and cant get 1 good enough, sell me it and il pay good money and coose from 1 of the 100s of already built red tops....

[just vaux trev]

pics pics pics pics

[dj_wudgey]

id leave it personally!!! maybe if it was a wreck id put one in but only if!!!

[*Dave*]

THIS AS THE CAR IN QUESTION.
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj183/davenova/Image029.jpg
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj183/davenova/Image027.jpg

[*Dave*]

:thumb: http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj183/davenova/Image028-1.jpg
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj183/davenova/Image017.jpg

[Big_Chap]

also, GSI's ain't that rare, we have atleast 5 and 1 rep in my town, only one is the standard engine, 1.6t, 2.5 v6, and 2 xe's, one of which is painted a different colour (k95vhd)

[Welsh Dan]

Thats not mint. However if that car was mine I'd remove that ugly splitter, halfords fuel cap, stick a proper parcel shelf back in, fit unpainted or body coloured skirts. Then once it didn't look molested I'd think about what to do engine wise. I don't know what suspension is on it, so I'd sort that, stitch weld and plate the chassis then if I had the funds I'd fit an XE or LET.

[*Dave*]

Thats not mint. However if that car was mine I'd remove that ugly splitter, halfords fuel cap, stick a proper parcel shelf back in, fit unpainted or body coloured skirts. Then once it didn't look molested I'd think about what to do engine wise. I don't know what suspension is on it, so I'd sort that, stitch weld and plate the chassis then if I had the funds I'd fit an XE or LET.

well the car is pretty rust free,the spliter needs replacing,what wrong with the parcel shel?
it has spax RSX coilovers on it, and its being XE'd as we speak.

[just vaux trev]

cant beat silky imo>
my rep,(pic whore)
http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee77/justvauxtrev/DSC00301.jpg
http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee77/justvauxtrev/DSC00459.jpg
http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee77/justvauxtrev/DSC00838.jpg

[draper]

^^ you never did pm me back regarding that trev ;)

[Welsh Dan]

wrong with the parcel shel?

6x9s.

It looks like its in good condition, but its not mint. Keith Robinsons is mint, I challenge you to spot dirt on that, never mind rust lol.

[just vaux trev]

^^ you never did pm me back regarding that trev ;)

i know i tried to pretend you didnt pm lol it's ma baby and would only sell for >>>>pm>>>on it's way

[raymond]

thats nearly as standard as my sri lol

na id keep the small block my nova has blown three sri engines up in the last twelve month but i still revert back to the 1400 everytime even though they are ****e engines

[just vaux trev]

/\ not at all s###e engines

[white2lSR]

Don't see the big appeal of standard Nova's at all.

Amen brother :thumb:

Next person to start a thread like this should be sin binned ;)

[Novaboyleon]

i see there is good and bad on both views!

[gordo]

keep it standard possibly suspension and speedlines.

[Benn]

keep it standard possibly suspension and speedlines.

Controdicting(sp) its self,

[wilson_sri]

I had a clean near standard GSI. Only on speedlines with 60mm springs.I changed everything, but still kept it subtle and looking standard, more OEM+? And i think its a hell of a lot better!End of the day its your car, do what you want to do with it.

[ewee870]

get a c20let dropped into it, set of lines suspension and keep the rest standard! :)

[Steve]

Im with leon on this, there aren't enough original ones left. Ok so it isnt 100% original but no-one wants a nova with std brakes and suspension!

I know dave won't change his mind but I still reckon he should leave the 1600 in, they're not exactly slow and can still be tuned to get better performance.

How many people have seen a nova redtop with speedlines? everyone! lol lol

[Lee H]

How many people have seen a nova redtop with speedlines? everyone! lol lol

True but you have to ask youself why there are so many like this. Its got to be because it works well.

1.6's are slow, XE's aren't quite as quick as everyone likes to make out either.

[Steve]

True but you have to ask youself why there are so many like this. Its got to be because it works well.



Meh, I put it down to lack of imagination! :tard:

Theres loads of other vauxhall wheels besides cesaros which suit novas, although no-one seems to realised this! I've always done what I think looks good and thats it, I don't just think hmm I saw a nice gsi the other day with a redtop motor, speedlines and a digi dash, think i'll do the same! Vauxhall should have known better and just built them like that out of the factory! lol

[draper]

but weve had the imagination phase, it was all big bumpers and lairy paint, now its back to simply cosmetic mods and good/quick/solid engines and handling

[Lee]

<<<<<<<<<< See under my name

I opened the bonnet on the 1.2 to check the fluids the other day, and I thought some bastid had stolen the engine!

Then I found it under the air filter :)

[Jack]

I opened the bonnet on the 1.2 to check the fluids the other day
Fluids FTL. "Solids" are where its at :D

[Lee]

LMFAO! Slush puppy coolant FTW :)

If you want my 2p's worth, fitting an XE only molests the inner wing, and that can be done nicely. SO if you ever feel the need to go back to a lawnmower engine, you can and no one will ever know the difference!

[*Dave*]

LMFAO! Slush puppy coolant FTW :)

If you want my 2p's worth, fitting an XE only molests the inner wing, and that can be done nicely. SO if you ever feel the need to go back to a lawnmower engine, you can and no one will ever know the difference!

very good point!

leon wont listen tho.

[Riggy]

or as someone has said in the post , run a front mounted alternator , no mods to your inner wing then ,

there are a few cars which runn them , just that no one will give you info on it lol i tried and got nowhere so just battered my inner wing ,

but if your good at fabricating things up you could do it easy

[draper]

another thing ive just thought of, what about the blue SR in this months total vauxhall, are the purists saying thats been ruined with an engine swap ?

[L14MNP]

I vote for a nice tap with the hammer instead of cutting/boxing the leg. Much neater and as said, much more subtle even if you revert back to small block it doesn't stand out.