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Brettski
02-01-09, 02:08 AM
well for thows who havent seen my mk1 sr it is a nice clean example of wot a nova should look like but thats just my opinion lol
i am unsure if i should xe it due to the fact of will id go down in value or will i just ruin it in generall ?????????
http://i330.photobucket.com/albums/l418/novabrettski/eggthenova.jpg
http://i330.photobucket.com/albums/l418/novabrettski/n774520690_3259695_6344.jpg
views please thanks bretski:thumb:

chimp007_uk
02-01-09, 02:10 AM
standard looked awesome at pvs :)

sulphur
02-01-09, 02:14 AM
That looks awesome. Have you not considered tuning the 1.3? I wouldn't change that other than some engine mods maybe. Looks lovely, wonder why I haven't seen it around.

BIGS
02-01-09, 02:15 AM
keep it as it is, stunning motor!

General Baxter
02-01-09, 02:21 AM
set of T40's, cam, 4-1 manifold, sorted :D

BIGS
02-01-09, 02:21 AM
or r1 carbs?

Plug
02-01-09, 02:23 AM
just tune that engine.

lovely looking car btw

sulphur
02-01-09, 02:24 AM
I agree with Baxter, T40s FTW! :)

tom reid
02-01-09, 02:25 AM
Keep the smallblock.

Sloth
02-01-09, 02:32 AM
turbo 1.3? like the courtenay ones. be different.... use reno 5 gt turbo stuff.

General Baxter
02-01-09, 02:49 AM
I agree with Baxter, T40s FTW! :)

'falls over' lol

Sloth
02-01-09, 03:18 AM
'falls over' lol

'feels the tremors in hull!' :D lol

General Baxter
02-01-09, 03:35 AM
dont be a nob ;)

white2lSR
02-01-09, 10:38 AM
If you want an Xe in it then fit one. Wont make any difference to the price. Mine was on ebay recently and the auction finished at £2000. I havnt seen any clean standard ones making that much.
Nobody goes to see a mk2 escort and refuses to buy it because it has a coswort lump in it instead of the standard lump.
If you do decide to do it, take your time and do the conversion well so it looks like it should have come out the factory like that.

Rick Draper
02-01-09, 10:40 AM
XE it.

Ernie
02-01-09, 10:40 AM
as above as it is mint and one of my fav novas around at the mo.

Novaload_Nick
02-01-09, 10:51 AM
i have a full irmscher injection system that would look awsome on that ;)

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k253/Novaload_Nick/4247_1.jpg

Graeme
02-01-09, 11:14 AM
I say xe it but got to be kept old school looking. Webers, minimal wiring and definately no bling

Dod
02-01-09, 11:24 AM
Leave it as a 1300cc small block but yes, indeed an Injection Setup would look awesome on it.

bmw156
02-01-09, 11:30 AM
i think if you done the conversion well and it looked well done then do it, and like some one else said keep it on carbs.

if not then dont do it and just love it for a awesome SR

scott.parker
02-01-09, 12:12 PM
See I'm a swaying toward keep the 1300 in, maybe carb's, or that injection system would be cool!

Only reason i would not go xe is that there will be a point when there is NO 1300,1400 SR's or 1600 GTE/GSi's left, where as dose it matter if it was a 998 trip? lol not really..

Scott

VXandy
02-01-09, 12:19 PM
Leave it as it is brett or trade me for my MK2 nova van xe conversion ;)

dj_wudgey
02-01-09, 01:22 PM
go with 40's and ect on the 1.3 matey absolutely stunning motor pall. just dont ruin it by cutting/welding to fit a xe!!! or fit a 1.6 8v just stay small block!!

Graeme
02-01-09, 01:26 PM
Another good suggestion there, 1.6 8v, t40s, cam and four branch. good gains and still old school

Spudly
02-01-09, 01:30 PM
Definately stay smallblock with either irmscher injection or webbers, as said there will soon be no original SR`s and the like left.

If you want an XE find a mk2 and throw one in there for a track toy but keep yours as she is pretty please:thumb:

Paul
02-01-09, 01:33 PM
looks like a nice clean shell for an XE that does :)

draper
02-01-09, 01:34 PM
what about a 2ltr 8v to keep the old skool vibe flowing ? although XEs are that old now lol

if it was me id XE it

dj_wudgey
02-01-09, 01:36 PM
nah should be left origional will be worth much moore in years to come!!!

Dar
02-01-09, 02:57 PM
Leave it as is, XE's are slow and boring.

Spudly
02-01-09, 02:59 PM
nah should be left origional will be worth much moore in years to come!!!


Steady lad its only a nova so its never gonna be worth say £3mil in forty years lol

But again i reckon it would be spoiling it to big block it bud!

General Baxter
02-01-09, 03:07 PM
Steady lad its only a nova so its never gonna be worth say £3mil in forty years lol

it might be the last one :thumb:

Spudly
02-01-09, 03:20 PM
There will be brets (this one) Keiths, Joffs, and roystons i reckon oh and obviously a certain few sports which by then vaughan will have in his collection of "the only nova sports left in existence" lol

dj_wudgey
02-01-09, 03:23 PM
Steady lad its only a nova so its never gonna be worth say £3mil in forty years lol

But again i reckon it would be spoiling it to big block it bud!

lol i know that but still it would probrably fetch moore as it is than after its been cut apart and had a xe welded in im all for big engines and going fast but it has to be in base modle's. In years to come there will be none off these left so may aswell try save some now eh lol

twistysnovagte
02-01-09, 03:30 PM
See I'm a swaying toward keep the 1300 in, maybe carb's, or that injection system would be cool!
1600 GTE left, mine will be staying standard,while in my hands:thumb: my opinion would be to keep as it is too,but if its in your head to do this conversion then LET it be!:D

Steve
02-01-09, 03:42 PM
as most will agree a big block engine will ruin it, sure it will be fast but original sr's just aren't about anymore.

I say keep the lump, twin carbs, cam and headwork with decent suspension and job done!

dj_wudgey
02-01-09, 03:44 PM
as most will agree a big block engine will ruin it, sure it will be fast but original sr's just aren't about anymore.

I say keep the lump, twin carbs, cam and headwork with decent suspension and job done!

you just hit the nail on the head thats what my sr is having!!

Leeboo
02-01-09, 04:20 PM
Have you considered fitting a 1.6 carb engine from a belmont or similar?

The 1.6 looks completely identical to the 1300 - same gearbox, same carb etc. Only change is, the 1.6 makes more power, 80/90 bhp standard. Something to think about.

Ste L
02-01-09, 04:43 PM
just bang and xe in it, and be done

sport
02-01-09, 05:43 PM
Its your car do as you please with it, if it was my car i would leave as standard as there isnt many in that kind of condition.

sport
02-01-09, 05:45 PM
Brettski how much were you wanting for the car when it was forsale?

vaughanmc
02-01-09, 05:46 PM
I'd leave it as it is but...

...Put a set of 40's on it :)

craig green
02-01-09, 05:51 PM
Keep it std.

It'd be a massive shame to ruin that with a big block.

R1CH
02-01-09, 05:55 PM
If your even thinking about fitting an XE then your obviously getting bored of the 1300 (don't blame you), whats the point in have a clean / good looking car thats slow as sh*te !!
So what if its an origional 1300 SR, its just a Nova at the end of the day.

craig green
02-01-09, 06:07 PM
Not everyone is capable of installing a fuel injection engine nicely though.
I've lost count of the ruined cars with the bodies hacked up for clearance & wires strewn around the bay. Considering the rarity of a genuine old SR like that, IMO adding an XE will kill its future value.

scott.parker
02-01-09, 06:37 PM
There is a Jamaica yellow SR for sale on here,and it's been XE'd if i had some spare Cash and it had been the 1300 8v still i would rip there arm of for it!

FFS I'm on my second XE nova and i know i butchered a GSi into it's grave the first time round,so i wouldn't like to see any more nice SR's go the same, OK this is my opinion, it dose seem the opinion varies person to person.

Scott

Lee H
02-01-09, 06:39 PM
I'd XE it, never seen the appeal of a carbed engine thats slow and not as good on petrol.

Sloth
02-01-09, 06:50 PM
i can see mint early sr's getting to 10 k to 15 k in 20 years time.

sport
02-01-09, 07:00 PM
There is a Jamaica yellow SR for sale on here,and it's been XE'd if i had some spare Cash and it had been the 1300 8v still i would rip there arm of for it!

FFS I'm on my second XE nova and i know i butchered a GSi into it's grave the first time round,so i wouldn't like to see any more nice SR's go the same, OK this is my opinion, it dose seem the opinion varies person to person.

Scott

Im with Scott, i know what you mean about the jamacia SR would have been intrested in that if it hadnt been XE'd. Can remember when it was first advertised on ebay as a 1300 wished i put a bid in then.

nova_saloon
02-01-09, 07:08 PM
in the end its a car! wether you want to enjoy it for a few year beating people at the lights with the xe. but id take the guy up on that injection system maybe

Novaload_Nick
02-01-09, 08:19 PM
he has pm'd just waiting on reply :)

John
02-01-09, 08:46 PM
xe it! more fun, just don't hack massive amounts of the chassis leg so you can put back to original if you wanted to!

Ste L
02-01-09, 08:49 PM
xe it! more fun, just don't hack massive amounts of the chassis leg so you can put back to original if you wanted to!



front mounted alt, like chris t's ;)

Ash
02-01-09, 09:00 PM
I'll pay you *to keep it as it is.

* a pound

stuartyj21
02-01-09, 10:17 PM
keep it original mate, its getting hard to find good clean examples..

Pistol Pete
02-01-09, 10:18 PM
A good looking example you've got there. Some carbs would suit that down to the ground IMO. But an XE would also be fun.

Dan_Coombs
03-01-09, 12:16 AM
Looks brilliant mate, i'd say keep it as a 1.3. Just tune the engine ;)

Could someone tell me what wheels they are?

Steve
03-01-09, 12:17 AM
Think they're 15s from a cav expression or similar model.

Also, I reckon that sr would look better with orange indicators, gives it a bit more contrast.

Novasport
03-01-09, 12:26 AM
I have this dilemma, although I have not finished the Sport yet I am looking ahead to my A reg SR project. I have the original 1.3 lump and spare carbs & 4 branch I could fit but I have the urge to fit an XE(Which I now have).
I want to keep the car looking totally standard looking but run an XE on twin carbs, I am hoping running it on carbs & having a front mounted alternator will prevent me from having to do irreversible body mods for fitting a loom & for alternator clearance so I can return it to standard if required.

I have the Sport for smallblock fun & would have the SR for big block fun, never had an XE'd Nova so would have best of both worlds

NOVA13SPORT
03-01-09, 02:07 AM
Im with Scott, i know what you mean about the jamacia SR would have been intrested in that if it hadnt been XE'd. Can remember when it was first advertised on ebay as a 1300 wished i put a bid in then.

i'm with scott and sport , don't xe it, irmscher injection or t40's

jamaica
Can remember when it was first advertised on ebay as a 1300 wished i put a better bid in then as i didnt get my finger out and bid enough

dj_wudgey
03-01-09, 12:52 PM
keep it original mate, its getting hard to find good clean examples..

i agree dude!!

scott.parker
03-01-09, 05:41 PM
OK another thing Ive just thought of, say if your at a show or an event right, you walk round and look at all the nova's on a stand or parked up etc, lots and lots (not track cars,nor some even stitched in the bay) have XE's in.

I just think it's really nice to walk up to a nice clean nova and see it's NOT an XE, most none vaux people will start thinking that XE's came in all nova's soon! lol

My mates 1600 8v turbo's another good one, most "none" vaux people think that when the bonnet opens there will be a let in it,and they they go OH! whats that then??

Just nice to see them kept "original" when there that good, thats all.

Scott

Spudly
03-01-09, 07:31 PM
I just think it's really nice to walk up to a nice clean nova and see it's NOT an XE, most none vaux people will start thinking that XE's came in all nova's soon! lol


This has already started to happen tbh, im not sure but i think it was an article in tv ages ago i remember reading something along the lines of.......

cav turbo with bonnet open, young kid happens along and asks owner "how much work was it to fit a turbo engine in here then" owner dumbfoundedly asks wtf you mean and kid replies "i thought these were only in astras and corsas/novas" lol

andy_017
03-01-09, 08:32 PM
XE it :thumb:

Riggy
03-01-09, 09:31 PM
yeah XE it fella

floydy13
03-01-09, 09:44 PM
leave it as it is, not enough left like yours is at the mo. if i was you i would buy another nova an xe that if i really wanted one!
i think youve got a real nice nova there.

dj_wudgey
03-01-09, 11:53 PM
leave it as it is, not enough left like yours is at the mo. if i was you i would buy another nova an xe that if i really wanted one!
i think youve got a real nice nova there.

i agree matey!! go use a base model for xe's

DW-Nova
04-01-09, 02:10 AM
Please dont XE it, very bad idea imo ! i was sold on the idea at one point until i realised how god dam heavy they are !! they're massive ! Also with what looks like such a mint SR it'd be sacralige to chop it all about, persist with the 1.3 mate, theyre not slow to start with in all fairness and i'm sure that you could get it flying with a few nice mods !

dj_wudgey
04-01-09, 12:37 PM
i wanted to put a xe in my sr but i changed my mind with how thin they are getting on the water and i didnt want to cut and put a welder to her when she does not need it!!! but my shed off a gte will be getting a xe lump!!

Brettski
06-01-09, 02:09 AM
well thanks very much ppl for all your coments looks like the good old 1.3 donkey will stay but i have irmscher injection in mind now thow because i think it would b nice to see it runing on my car as i have never seen 1 b4 ???????

has any one else?:confused: :confused:

Jack
06-01-09, 09:47 AM
^ Yes.

Please dont XE it, very bad idea imo ! i was sold on the idea at one point until i realised how god dam heavy they are !! they're massive
And they don't handle, so I hear



lol

tbh its up to you. Yes, keeping the car a 1.3 would retain its originality, but an XE would be reliable power. Crappy MPG and taking hours to get anywhere would soon annoy me, but then if I wanted a car to put a 2.0 into I wouldn't purposefully seek out a tidy SR (unless all the other available cars were ratty and the SR was the best condition).

scott.parker
06-01-09, 12:17 PM
well thanks very much ppl for all your coments looks like the good old 1.3 donkey will stay but i have irmscher injection in mind now thow because i think it would b nice to see it runing on my car as i have never seen 1 b4 ???????

has any one else?:confused: :confused:

Nope!

So snap up that injection setup and get it on! :thumb:

novaowner999
06-01-09, 12:32 PM
keep it standard and get a 1200 shell and xe that. you can never have enough novas :)

dj_wudgey
06-01-09, 12:39 PM
keep it standard and get a 1200 shell and xe that. you can never have enough novas :)

i agree fella!!!

DW-Nova
07-01-09, 10:42 PM
people saying crappy mpg with the original 1.3 8v ? i had a 1.4 8v and it was ace on petrol ! under normal driving it'd do 40mpg easy !! thats good enough for me !

NOVA13SPORT
07-01-09, 11:27 PM
" looks like the good old 1.3 donkey will stay but i have irmscher injection in mind now thow because i think it would b nice to see it runing on my car as i have never seen 1 b4 ???????"

has any one else?:confused: :confused:

irmscher injection people

steve(duick) spider and yellow gt
novacabrio nova cabrio

http://www.pngclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=79342&page=6&highlight=irmscher+injection

http://www.pngclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=101390&page=4&highlight=irmscher+injection

i have two but not fitted yet

Jack
07-01-09, 11:29 PM
people saying crappy mpg with the original 1.3 8v ? i had a 1.4 8v and it was ace on petrol ! under normal driving it'd do 40mpg easy !! thats good enough for me !
Yes, but at the same time an XE can be getting 40mpg whilst still going fast lol

Novasport
07-01-09, 11:53 PM
This is the kit fitted complete with the original alloy airbox which is usually missing...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v305/NovaSport/injection.jpg
Bits of the last kit I sold, similar to 1.8i setup...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v305/NovaSport/DSCN0457-1.jpg
Irmscher diagram...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v305/NovaSport/teilelistelh8.jpg
Try and get the airbox with the kit, the kit I have now I got for £50 delivered from Germany a few months ago but the airbox was drilled as they normally are. Luckily I managed to get another airbox undrilled:D

Steve
08-01-09, 09:13 AM
Aren't the airboxes the same as a nova gte? Can't see any differences.

DW-Nova
12-01-09, 11:40 PM
Get a cone filter on ther :)


Yes, but at the same time an XE can be getting 40mpg whilst still going fast lol

/\ Maybe, well until you come to the corner's lol

Talon
13-01-09, 04:10 PM
depends what you want completely doesnt it.

do you want a car that will get respect from forum users? and people generally in the know.

or do you want a car for YOU?

in my opinion it is only a nova, a car that wad designed to be cheap for the masses, people go on like there some sort of super fantastic machine thats changed the world forever.

an xe is the cheapest, easiest way to bigger power. sure you could lob a 1.6 in and put it on throttle bodies but it will cost £££.

a 1.3 with injection or carbs will be nippy but never fast.

and xes arent that heavy for gods sake.

dj_wudgey
13-01-09, 04:16 PM
its not the weight and that its the fact its a rare car now should be left as it is imo!!

Novasport
13-01-09, 08:19 PM
Aren't the airboxes the same as a nova gte? Can't see any differences.

They were a specially made cast aluminium airbox that mated to an original 1.8E injection airbox lid from a Mk1 Astra/Mk2Cav.

LEWI007
13-01-09, 09:48 PM
Twin 40's all the way Keep It a proper Old Skool 1300 SR !

CP
13-01-09, 10:10 PM
If it matters to you to have something a bit different dont XE it. Otherwise it'll just become another *******ized amalgam of bits out some old cavalier or astralol (Plus it wont handle any more:D )

Rich
13-01-09, 10:24 PM
1600 16v hasnt been mentioned yet??

Simple to do, dont need to be modifying chassis legs but you get more oomph. Can get nice power from them too quite cheaply

Could easily convert back if you wanted later on then.

If it was me i would probably just stick a c20xe in though lol But i agree it would sort of ruin a nice rare model.

Benn
13-01-09, 10:32 PM
Leave the engine but twin carb it.

Mint FRST
13-01-09, 10:37 PM
Irmcher Injection and turbo your small block FTW....

Steve
13-01-09, 11:41 PM
Maybe, well until you come to the corner's lol

Again, the main reason alot of big block novas don't handle well is that the pikeys that put the engine in assume it will handle fine on std chopped springs or a 2nd hand gmax kit! lol

jimbob-mcgrew
14-01-09, 12:05 AM
unless your a spead freak, id say keep your 1300 block.
can still thrash it about, and the handlings gonna stay crisp.
damn nice car btw.

dj_wudgey
14-01-09, 12:08 AM
id go with webbers me mainly for the noise lol

Rick Draper
14-01-09, 12:41 AM
I would XE it as the roof iirc is not fitted with a standard tilt and slide.

Dave.
14-01-09, 12:44 AM
I would XE it as the roof iirc is not fitted with a standard tilt and slide.

them types were optional from the factory if its the one im thinking of

mines got one and so have many other novas, im nearly 100% sure they were an extra :D