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philly
28-12-08, 03:08 PM
any deal with damp in their line of work? i need to know the best way to draw it out from the walls and stop it coming back, landlord has had the gutters changed as they think that was the problem and bought us a dehumidifier!

cheers

Clean 2.0 nova
28-12-08, 03:10 PM
Dehumidifier to draw it out from the walls, damp proof membrane and / or visqueen to keep it dry. If its one area of wall try removing a brick near the bottom of the wall outside and get your hand in, its amazing how much cr@p you can pull out. Bits of mortar / general rubbish that bridge the inner and outer skin of a cavity wall can make the inside damp.

Obviously walls are built in many different ways.

ade
28-12-08, 03:12 PM
is the wall the damps coming built into the side of the ground. Is the damp course layer breached/covered (eg soil etc over it)

Is there adequate ventilation? (eg vent bricks not blocked)

Is your heating working?

philly
28-12-08, 03:42 PM
heating is pretty poor to be honest but it does work, but its not down stairs the damp, its only upstairs which seems odd, like is stops mid stair level which is why they thought it was the guttering because it was shot anyhow.

Nick
28-12-08, 03:45 PM
How old's the house ?

Could be plausable and it's hitting a stop point at a cavity tray

Either way, it's obviously definetly not rising damp. It's roof/top related.

Dod
28-12-08, 04:07 PM
Ok, a few questions to help determine whats going on.

Is it an Old house?
Drylined or Concrete walls?
Where is the Moisture coming through, ceilings or walls, in the corners or the centre?
Is it Mouldy or just damp?

stevie-p
28-12-08, 04:08 PM
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Dod
28-12-08, 04:10 PM
The only damp coming from the floor would stay on the floor and warp the floor boards. Damp is usually cold and so comes downwards. If it was rising it'd creep up the walls etc and be pretty noticable.

ade
28-12-08, 05:57 PM
if its drain pipes you'd see a dirty stain on the walls where the drain was leaking and the damp (in theory) would br behind it.

Nick
28-12-08, 06:03 PM
to be fair, if you've got a landlord.

Just tell him you'l get environmental health round to assess the living conditions. If it's BAD they'l give him a beating.

Happened to a friend, He had a literally green living wall in his bedroom at uni - made his paperwork damp, clothes damp e.t.c and he developed a bad chest.

Finally went to environmental health, got moved into a hotel for 2 weeks at the landlords expense and he had to fully repair everything.

Depends, how bad it is though - but damp isn't good for your health.

Mike
29-12-08, 07:33 AM
I work with it nearly every day!

The ONLY real cure is hack the walls back to the brickwork, let them dry out, then dab and board the walls with plasterboard.

EDIT: Just read the full thread lol if its only upstairs, sounds like the tar sheeting in the loft has been breached and/or the facia boarding is funked and its getting in from there.

Get some torches, get up the loft and have a butchers round there :thumb:

mowgli
29-12-08, 09:39 AM
its either as mike says a knackered roof etc, or it simply is down to condensation. what is the ventilation like upstairs, modern houses with replacement double glazing (without trickle vents) are terrible for it.

a bloke I know had a problem with a flat he rented out which had terrible damp problems, the tenant was trying to claim for thousands of pounds worth of designer clothes that were ruined....

it ended up that
1. she was using a tumble drier without an outside vent, causing horrendous condensation.
2. she worked at a designer clothes outlet had got hold of a couple of bags of scrap clothes
3. she got caught....

philly
29-12-08, 10:46 PM
Ok, a few questions to help determine whats going on.

Is it an Old house?
Drylined or Concrete walls?
Where is the Moisture coming through, ceilings or walls, in the corners or the centre?
Is it Mouldy or just damp?


sorry about the delay....

its an old house. probably 60's atleast it was built

dry lined walls

moisture is coming through celing and walls and in corners of cupboards

both really, its a green mold on the wall, which can be wiped off at certain points but its stained the paint so to speak to it looks like its set in the plaster

the landlord seems ok, but the builder he uses is his next door neighbour so i think he is
A) ripping him off as he would think hes getting a good job
B) fobbing him off with a load of bul**** also to save money

Dod
29-12-08, 11:02 PM
Ok if its green its defintely ****ed. It means theres all manor of things coming through. The best fix is to line the existing walls with Damp Proof Membrane and use a drylining like Thermal Board (areoboard Backed) on it and the ceiling. It'll stop the damp coming through but realisticially there is a big issue with it. I'd look to the roof area and the outside walls for evidence of damp penetrating.

Nick
29-12-08, 11:05 PM
sorry about the delay....

its an old house. probably 60's atleast it was built

dry lined walls

moisture is coming through celing and walls and in corners of cupboards

both really, its a green mold on the wall, which can be wiped off at certain points but its stained the paint so to speak to it looks like its set in the plaster

the landlord seems ok, but the builder he uses is his next door neighbour so i think he is
A) ripping him off as he would think hes getting a good job
B) fobbing him off with a load of bul**** also to save money

Go to environmental health. It aint your house, it aint your ****ing problem.

Dod
29-12-08, 11:12 PM
A point worth mentioning it that it may not be his house but its obviously his home. Its easy to grow attatched to somewhere you spend most of your time, maybe its a place he doesnt want to leave and so doesnt want to piss his land lord off.

Never the less, its a health issue that your landlord does need to address seriously mate.

Nick
29-12-08, 11:19 PM
You have more rights as a tentant than he does as a landlord. Pay your rent on time, what the hell can he do.

Tell him sternly to sort it - Green walls are not good.

Mr.B
29-12-08, 11:24 PM
Anymore gen on the Enviromental Health process? because my Landlord is a bit of a idiot...

Having the same problem,

Living room: appearing in corners from the bottom up.
Bedroom: appearing in corners from the top down and under window.
Black stains through the paint and wallpaper :(

Dod
29-12-08, 11:35 PM
Black Stains is pretty much the last thing to show before grass growing. That definately needs sorting. Have a word in his ear, you want it sorted sufficiantly or you'll be onto the EH Folk.

Mr.B
29-12-08, 11:42 PM
Black Stains is pretty much the last thing to show before grass growing. That definately needs sorting. Have a word in his ear, you want it sorted sufficiantly or you'll be onto the EH Folk.

Thanks :thumb:

Nick
30-12-08, 12:39 AM
It does have to be considerable for it to be deemed dangerous.

But you've gotten think, a damp atmosphere is not good for your respiratory system - nor is an atmosphere full of spores of mould.

If your lanlord is being a chump, then teach him a lesson. There's not much he can do back to you.