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Hi Chaps as there seems to be a few threads about smallblocks i thought i would post some pics of our new car .As some may know i had a nova sport that my brother rolled earlier in the year
http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo114/toymex/brands074.jpg
well we bought another shell with the intention of swapping the bits over,but along the way i decided i wanted to go racing so things have evolved along the way here are some pics, i must hasten to add this is very much a budget build so we have tried to do as much as possible ourselves with help from a chap called Andy tedder ( A T raace engines )who is one top fella and really knows his onions
http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo114/toymex/novaarches007640x480.jpg
http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo114/toymex/novaarches005640x480.jpg
http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo114/toymex/190640x480.jpg
http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo114/toymex/188640x480.jpg
vaughanmc
22-12-08, 07:14 PM
Looks mean :)
What from the Sport is being transferred ?
nice looking car there.what other type of plans you got in mind?
the engine and box are being used the engine has had new rings the block decked the inlet side of the head has been re worked,it all ready has big wasted stem valves solid lifters and quite a wild cam ,the straight cut box has had a freshen up and a new plate lsd has been fitted as we found the old one was smashed to pieces we think this may have been the cause of the sport rolling ,the cage has been used as this did not suffer any damage thas about it really as this one is going wide track the hockley or pilbeam lower arms and tie bars that we had are of no use so we have had sone new ones made,it is also going to run 13x10 wheels so we have had to fit the wide arches
Plans are to get a 4.1 cwp fitted as the 4.54 that was fitted is no good due to the 13 inch wheels once that is fitted we can get the engine in try the new lower arms /tie bars for size and see if the wide arches are going to cover the wheels we may have to extend the wide arches if we decide to go full wide track then get and do some testing as the first race is in March
Here Are a few more pics
http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo114/toymex/rearcage008640x480.jpg
We have had these plates fitted so camber can be easily adjusted at race meetings
http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo114/toymex/rearcage017640x480.jpg
These are the 13x 10s
http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo114/toymex/rearcage015.jpg
http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo114/toymex/rearcage014640x480-1.jpg
bit of door lightening
http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo114/toymex/rearcage012.jpg
THe fuel tank 4 gallon as we only have 15 minute races
Those topmounts look cool! Should be a good car when you've finished with it.
Edit: I think I recognise that A.T. Race Engines sticker, think I've met Andy, he's a great guy.
Hi m8 Andy is a top fella he is helping with the build of the car as he has experince with racing novas,they are his wheels he is lending me to see if they are going to work ,he has also rebuilt the engine ,box and diff etc i really cant speak highly enough about him:thumb:
stevie-p
22-12-08, 08:30 PM
those wheels look great and so does this build great work so far
Cheers M8 hopefully it will work ok as i will be racing some very quick minis ,170 bhp and weighing 600kgs:eek:
kenny_afh
22-12-08, 08:42 PM
thats as cool as ****! i'll be watching this.
what are the top mounts from or are they customs? look like maybe stock rod parts or something. i was toying with the idea of widetracking my rally car but was just gonna cut and refit the turrets at a bigger angle.
also where you gonna race it when youre fitting such wee wheels? ovals?
dj_wudgey
22-12-08, 08:47 PM
looks mint as fook matey!!
Hello Kenny the strut tops are custom made ,i have got a mk2 escort that is built to tarmac gp4 spec the chap who built it Retromotorsport uses them on his race cars, i will be racing in the dunlop motorsportnews champonship, it is based in the southeast visiting brands llyden ,castle coombe ,thruxton and silverstone gp circuit we will be changing the cwp for the longer circuits but may have to get higher profile tyres to try to increase the topend
This looks very impressive toymex. Will be keeping my eye on this project. You never know, you may be asked to join the unofficial small block club in the near future, just need to discuss the idea with my fellow small blockers ;)
kenny_afh
23-12-08, 01:05 AM
we will be changing the cwp for the longer circuits but may have to get higher profile tyres to try to increase the topend
why not just start with larger wheels in the first place or do you have a stock of tyres from the mk2?
also as a sidenote, when youre holesawing everything you should really trim the front panel right down to its seams, the sides that protrude under the headlights are entirely non structural. only benifit of them (especially with your wings) would be to use as a fixed mounting point for brake ducts or an oil cooler.
holy shizzle, this looks like an awesome build
Hi Kenny thanks for the replys we are running 13s as we have the wheels and more importantly the tyres also Andy who is advising with the build is familiar with racing a nova on 13s and also setting up cars so it makes sense to try these there is no downside i can see other than gearing and brakes,on the gearing with a 3.7 cwp it will give a top speed of approx 130 which as its still only a 1400 i think it will struggle to pull any greater top end without compromising low speed cornering ie pulling out of corners ,but it is all a bit of trial and error so time will tell and with the brakes at the moment i am still running the 16v astra stuff with grooved discs and decent pads they just fit under the 13s the car will be lighter than the sport and they were great on that car ,now i know i will have a lot more grip but we will see if i need to i can get some decent 4 pots
Hi Burgo thanks for that ,all the nice comments help with motivation to get it finished:thumb:
16v Nova Kev
23-12-08, 09:59 AM
nice work chap my nova is on a crash diet too. keep up the good work:thumb:
tom reid
23-12-08, 05:46 PM
Never mind joining the smallbollock club, join The Bumshunters Corporation, we have bigbollocks, and you'll need them them with that car.lol
:cool:
will be keeping an eye on this
Hello m8 hows the old fella hope your looking after him hes got loads to do when he gets backlol what did you think of the lower arms :thumb:
tom reid
23-12-08, 05:58 PM
The Wide Track Kits are the Bees Knees, are'nt they? have you got any pics to post?, if not I could put some up, if you don't mind.
Yeah, I looked after the old boy, but he must be getting forgetful in his old age, he forgot to take most of the stuff he came for, lol.
I havent got any pics Tom so feel free to post some m8 ,i will have to send him with a list next time so he rememberslol
write it on his hand so he doesnt forget lol
Good stuff - refreshingly different. I like the idea of the wide 13" wheels on slicks. I would imagine it'll corner like a kart
:cool: Shame about the sport. Is this the same engine? 1400cc? or the 1300 overbored?
Any photos of the wide track kit? Looking forward to seeing this one
Absolute quality! :thumb: Look forward to the updates!
tom reid
23-12-08, 10:29 PM
this is the n/s kit, the TCA take r/h ropse-joints and the tie bar takes a l/h rose-joint, no need to undo it for adjustment
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3241/3132012024_46ea4e0715_m.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/16764489@N05/3132012024/)http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3205/3132011338_a9430876af_m.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/16764489@N05/3132011338/)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3085/3132010654_5360bb9511_m.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/16764489@N05/3132010654/)http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3294/3132009994_3197f2ab91_m.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/16764489@N05/3132009994/)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3090/3132009362_10956000bd_m.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/16764489@N05/3132009362/)
i'm loving this build already, well done. :thumb:
am now needing daily amounts of more pics!
ste
nova ian
23-12-08, 10:53 PM
Wow, very impressive build this looks. Will keep an eye on this one.
Some innovative ideas & special parts too.
Keep up the good work
one quick question. how the funk do you get 170bhp out of a 1.4 8v
meritlover
24-12-08, 03:19 AM
one quick question. how the funk do you get 170bhp out of a 1.4 8v.
NAAAAAWWWS!lol
HI Burgo not sure how the mini boys do it tbh but i am sure when we are on track we will see if its truelol
nathan.
27-12-08, 11:54 AM
Very nice :cool::thumb:
unless youve got an all steel bottom end and can rev to about 10k i dont see it happening tbo
If you search bill richards racing it says the 8 port car currently has 172 bhp and he is going 16v next year a development head in conjunction with KAD but luckily that puts him in the class above:D
If you search bill richards racing it says the 8 port car currently has 172 bhp and he is going 16v next year a development head in conjunction with KAD but luckily that puts him in the class above:Dthats not a vauxhall engine tho
Matt Pickering
27-12-08, 03:36 PM
Thats a nice looking built!!
Matt.
Mine certainly wont be making 170bhp ,it made 113bhp 96lbft before but there were a few problems with it ,bent exhaust valve and cam timimg issues,its had many little tweaks with the rebuild so hoping for a bit more but we will be lucky to see 140 let alone 170
Novasport
27-12-08, 08:42 PM
You ought to look into Arnes(Duicks friend) engine, he is running a destroked 1.6 8v engine(To 1300cc) on 45's that is putting out 175bhp iirc!
There is a clip of it racing that has been posted on PNG somewhere.
That sounds interesting have you goy any more info or a link?
Frankspeed Motorsport
18-01-09, 10:12 PM
looking gud buddy
Well its been a while since ive updated this thread so here goes Tomlol ,i have bought some comp brake 4 pots discs and bells but they dont fit:confused: ,the brake pads hit the caliper mounting bracket so i am waiting for compbrake to get back to me
http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo114/toymex/novadash003.jpg
http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo114/toymex/novadash002.jpg
I have been waiting to get a 4.1cwp so that i can get the engine and box in,a big thanks to Gary c from the site it arrived thursday got it fitted to the box friday engine and box in saturday:thumb:
http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo114/toymex/novadash004.jpg
http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo114/toymex/novadash005.jpg
Gary c wanted a pic of a tony law 4 into 1 manifold so a couple of pics for him
http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo114/toymex/novadash007.jpg
http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo114/toymex/novadash008.jpg
Sorry about that put links up instead of pics:confused:just fixed it:thumb:
LEWI007
19-01-09, 08:02 PM
a SPORT Rolled ? :eek::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry:
i dislike you :mad:
once youve rebuilt this will it be classed a a sport "reshelled" but still a sport ?
looks like a 4-2-1 manifold.
nice brakes bet they set you back some.
Its definatly a 4 into 1 m8 just my crappy picslol and yes the brakes were not cheap so i am well p,d off they dont fit
I dont know about the sport re shelled i have wondered that myself,i was absolutly gutted about the sport but atleast my brother walked away unscathed and when we stripped it down it was starting to show its age and atleast it died doing what they were meant for:thumb:
Novasport
19-01-09, 08:40 PM
That sounds interesting have you goy any more info or a link?
1600 block, steel crank based a a 12ST item, titanium rods, forged pistons, 8v head & throttle bodies. The compression ratio was about 12:1 or similar and the bottom end has the ability to rev to 13,000 rpm(Only the cylinder head prevents this). Apparently the rods stretch to give a piston to valve clearance of a fraction of a millimeter and they had to move the spark plugs upwards as the pistons hit the plugs on testing!!!
Cheers for that ,it sounds very expensive although it does sound the nuts on the videos:D i can go up to a 1600 8v and stay in the same class but i think i might start to collect parts to build a 1600 16v and go up to the class above,out of interest do you know if it runs a dry sump im guessing it does to enable it to rev that high:eek:
Novasport
19-01-09, 09:22 PM
Cheers for that ,it sounds very expensive although it does sound the nuts on the videos:D i can go up to a 1600 8v and stay in the same class but i think i might start to collect parts to build a 1600 16v and go up to the class above,out of interest do you know if it runs a dry sump im guessing it does to enable it to rev that high:eek:
Err no it doesnt:tard: , that is next on the list. The main reason to swap to a dry sump is to get the car even lower:wtf: I was chatting with Arne & Steve at the pub the other night when they come over, Arne has a specialist engine builder that helps him create this monster engine. Although exact amounts were not discussed we are talking quite a few thousand Euros!
The car is an awesome spec, most of the panels are carbon fibre. Get this, it only uses standard Delco brakes:eek: , his reasoning behind this was that he did not need to brake alotlol
Apparently it is the fastest 8v about but he wants to swap to 16v soon which will allow the bottom end to be able use more of the 13,000 rpm without the restriction of the 8v head.
The Polo's that hill climb are running over 200bhp from 1300's by using 2x motorbike cylinder heads adapted to fit!
tom reid
19-01-09, 10:25 PM
About time too, lol, what's with the brake issue, wrong pads or mount?
Hi Tom you can just about see from the pics the brake pads hit the bracket that bolts to the hub,not a huge problem i am sure Andy could mill the bracket but when you are paying over £700 you expect them to fit:(
dj_wudgey
24-01-09, 12:40 PM
looks well ace this project shame about the sport though!!
Cheers m8 yes its gutting about the sport ,but onwards and upwards as they say
craig green
24-01-09, 09:07 PM
Lovely project & ideas.
well it is just about finished just a couple of small bits a fuel tank cover and i have got to decide whether to fit wing mirrors or fit a longacre centre mirror but it wont stop me doing some testing,hoping to do a trackday at lydden on saturday to finalise setup etc
http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo114/toymex/nova14309011640x480.jpg
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That looks awesome, nice one.
novalicous
15-03-09, 02:53 PM
that looks mean lol
very nice car :thumb:
dj_wudgey
15-03-09, 02:56 PM
looks mean as f*ck that!! only thing that lets it down for mr is the lights!!
I know what you are saying , being a race car i didnt want to run with glass so i removed the glass and bent some perspex not the best but function over form im afraid,plus it saves a bit of weightlol
i just got looked at funny because of the noise i made looking at it
thats looks very nice.. keep up the good work..:D
tom reid
15-03-09, 09:32 PM
Oi, Jezz
I'd love to see you parking it in town, you'd need arms like Arnie!
It's a credit to you:thumb:
dj_wudgey
15-03-09, 09:40 PM
I know what you are saying , being a race car i didnt want to run with glass so i removed the glass and bent some perspex not the best but function over form im afraid,plus it saves a bit of weightlol
cant argue with that matey anything to save weight lol
That looks totally stunning :thumb:
Well its been a while since i updated this thread i only managed a couple of races due to breaking the car and funds really,first race was at brands managed a 57.7 sec lap with a slipping clutch then a while later i raced at llyden hill where i managed a 46 sec lap but broke the engine and box so that was that for the year i suffered oil starvation due to cornering speeds ,as the class structure has changed and i had blown the engine up a decision was made to build a 1600 16v for the coming season ,i havent any pics of the engine as Andy Tedder is currently building it but it will have all the normal bits forged pistons steel rods etc and a trick head and cams that Andy had done a while ago oh and a dry sump set up to avoid the oil problemslol
http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo114/toymex/nova054.jpg
http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo114/toymex/nova055.jpg
that dry sump looks the bees knees lol :thumb:
Novaboi_1991
13-12-09, 08:24 PM
Where you from mate? lydden hill is very local to me :)
craig green
13-12-09, 08:29 PM
I missed the completed pics of this, wow it looks purposefull.
The 1600 valver should be in adifferent league, so good luck with that when you hit the circuits again next season.
not local to llyden , but the race series i race in race there aswell as brands ,thruxton ,etc Bill Richards the resident instructor races his mini in the same championship
Cheers Craig its not quite as shiny any more as its got a few scars and yellow paint from a little mix up with a bda escortlol
jimbob-mcgrew
13-12-09, 08:54 PM
13 x 10's man ... lol no messing around
shame to hear about the 8v, youll have to overfill it next time lol
vaughanmc
13-12-09, 10:51 PM
Looks very very nice mate! Love the front end with the Laguna splitter! They never fail :thumb:
It has been a while since i updated this thread ,we have been building a 1.6 16v drysumped engine ,just finished it off and took the car to arena essex to bed the engine in before we get the map checked and hit the race track again here is a little video ,couldnt get full throttle and we kept the revs to 6k but it sure does feel strong cant wait to race it
http://s367.photobucket.com/albums/oo114/toymex/?action=view¤t=novaessexarena001.mp4
milko96
21-06-10, 07:08 PM
Sounds well!
Get some more pics up, love the look of this thing...
As requested a few current pics
http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo114/toymex/novaessexarena005-1.jpg
http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo114/toymex/novaessexarena008-1.jpg
http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo114/toymex/014.jpg
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That looks a awesome bit of kit
what side skirts are they ? Irmscher ?
Novasport
21-06-10, 09:31 PM
Part of a Rally-X or Magnum Motorsport wide arch kit I'd say
auzzy-b
22-06-10, 12:51 PM
That looks well cool!!!
dhdev (Oli)
22-06-10, 01:14 PM
Love it, the 1.6 16v is going to totally transform it!
Love it, the 1.6 16v is going to totally transform it!
It feels a bit lively compared to the old 1400 ,trying to spin the fronts up in 3rd ,not had that before:eek:
what side skirts are they ? Irmscher ?
Think they are pro tec just part of the widearch kit:thumb:
looking good mate the 16xe's are pretty nippy engines standard in a nova imo
Wish i had some pennys to build a decient spec one :)
dhdev (Oli)
22-06-10, 06:16 PM
It feels a bit lively compared to the old 1400 ,trying to spin the fronts up in 3rd ,not had that before:eek: What fd is that with? Is that running slicks too? What diff are you using? Cold tyres?
I'm surprised at that, mine was always well behaved in the dry, in the wet it wasn't so good.
garethcolley
22-06-10, 10:14 PM
Nice car, wheel/tyre setup looks 'grippy'!
peester
22-06-10, 10:42 PM
thats how its done. good work.
What fd is that with? Is that running slicks too? What diff are you using? Cold tyres?
I'm surprised at that, mine was always well behaved in the dry, in the wet it wasn't so good.
Cant remember what fd think 3.7 tran x slipper and warm tyres but it was at arena essex so a v tight bend and me getting on the throttle early ,could allways just plant it with the 1400:d
dhdev (Oli)
23-06-10, 07:58 AM
When and where is your next race? I'd be interested to see some lap times :)
When and where is your next race? I'd be interested to see some lap times :)
Not sure yet Oli ,i am going to do a trackday or two to get used to the car again as its been almost a year since i drove it last ,it will probably be brands indy where i have got a 57.7 to beat, hoping to be in the late 55s but need to get to 53 to be winning my class:eek:
dhdev (Oli)
23-06-10, 03:22 PM
Not sure yet Oli ,i am going to do a trackday or two to get used to the car again as its been almost a year since i drove it last ,it will probably be brands indy where i have got a 57.7 to beat, hoping to be in the late 55s but need to get to 53 to be winning my class:eek:
I'd think you'd manage 53's easy, I was lapping in 56/57 in a 1020kg Mk2 golf that wouldn't rev past 6.5krpm on 888's!
I'd think you'd manage 53's easy, I was lapping in 56/57 in a 1020kg Mk2 golf that wouldn't rev past 6.5krpm on 888's!
Not sure about the 53,s there is a 16v nova 200bhp+ sbd lump he struggles to get sub 55,s when you get to my age you dont tend to be as brave as you once were,i have only got very old slicks that really should be in the skip my mate who helps with the car and has raced alot before reckons there is a good 1-1.5 seconds in new tyres we will have to see on that one:thumb:
You were doing well to get those times on 888 what the spec of your car do you have to keep them pretty standard
dhdev (Oli)
23-06-10, 08:27 PM
Not sure about the 53,s there is a 16v nova 200bhp+ sbd lump he struggles to get sub 55,s when you get to my age you dont tend to be as brave as you once were,i have only got very old slicks that really should be in the skip my mate who helps with the car and has raced alot before reckons there is a good 1-1.5 seconds in new tyres we will have to see on that one:thumb:
You were doing well to get those times on 888 what the spec of your car do you have to keep them pretty standard
170bhp, standard disc size and calipers, 6-point cage, H&R coilovers. It's basically GTI Championship spec at the moment, which is fairly standard. The top Championship boys run in 57 dead and I'm the class above.
There is definately time to be had in new slicks, you'll certainly get the heat into new slicks better and get the most out of them. I've been told you get what you pay for with slicks, apparently the Dunlops are miles ahead of the likes of silverstones etc. I've certainly found in back to back testing that Dunlop Direzzas are worth about a second on R888's.
Here are a few pics of the engine bay minus carbs and the side exit exhaust
http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo114/toymex/nova002.jpg
http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo114/toymex/nova003.jpg
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dhdev (Oli)
23-06-10, 08:55 PM
So very very cool. :cool:
So very very cool. :cool:
Cheers Oli ,i have tried to do it on a tight budget where possible ,so the throttle bodies will have to wait
peester
08-08-10, 08:39 PM
few people asking after this , after todays appearance..
what spec did it run out at?
Hi it is as pics 1600 16v built by at race engines 45,s mapped ignition this was the first time out with this engine ,its not been on the rollers so dont know power but hoping around the 200 i was trying to keep the revs down as its new so kept it to about 7k i had gear selection problems in the first session where i couldnt get 5th so there are a couple of vids where it sounds a bit funny that was me just holding it at 7k
I had a great time ,its the first time my brother who helps with the car has been in it ,he had a smile a mile wide all the way home he didnt help lap times though as he is a big unitlol
peester
08-08-10, 09:21 PM
good stuff chap, looks the bizz ; keep up the good work.
dj_wudgey
24-08-10, 02:09 PM
this looks mint mate!!!
Ta ,allthough i have to say it goes better than it lookslol
Small update ,i had my first race of the year booked for the weekend Oct 30th /31st at Brands ,it would be my first outing with this engine,but it was the championships last meeting of the year.
I was only accomponied by just the misses as my usual helpers were busy doing other things ,it was a brightish morning but damp under foot,the car was a bitch to start had to borrow a fellow racers battery charger as my varley and jump pack wouldnt turn it over fast enough when i did manage to get it started there was a big queue at scrutineering ,car went straight through no problems but i was a bit late getting back to the paddock,so was trying to demist the windows and check tyre pressures when the call to the assembly area was announced ,i didnt even have my race suit onlol got noise tested on the way to the assembly point 102db,s happy with that.
It was still damp underfoot and sat in the assembly area i was checking the other cars and there seemed to be a lot of cars on wet tyres so i started to panic that i had the wrong tyres :( i have never driven with slicks in the damp so was a bit nervous ,but did notice Richard Brent my class leader was on slicks and seasoned mini racer Bill Richards was on slicks aswell so helped settle my nerves a bit,I left the pit lane behind Bill and Richard at what seemed to be a very gentle pace but as i have a habit of pushing too hard on cold tyres and spinning i stayed behind them.
It was really busy on track 32 cars in quali ,i soon got passed by the escort cossys and what looked like a btcc bmw and a couple of bmw minis that were on wet tyres ,but i seemed to be fairly quick compared to some other cars around me they seemed really slow in the bends.
The car was handling really well and was only understeering if i tried to come on the throttle too early out of bends and the back stepped out a couple of times at paddock but it was very controllable,the new engine was awesome and i can honestly say that nothing other than a couple of class A cars were quicker down the straight, but it was so busy on track that i never seemed to get a clear lap so towards the end of the session i came up behind a sierra cossy and bmw that were holding me up so coming out of paddock i got a run on them and decided i would do a banzai move up the inside into druids:eek: just as we got to the braking zone i dived up the inside hit the brakes and accelerated on the damp tracklol slicks and a damp line dont mix and i ended up in the gravel:cry: not just that but i had snapped the cambelt as some gravel had got trapped between the pulleys and belt.
As i was towed back into the pits a mate came up and said you were doing allright ,i didnt think i had done too well and thought that i could have gone a couple of seconds quicker if i had of got a clean lap in but when the quali results came in i had qualified in class pole, i had out qualified all of the class above and had qualified 12th out of 32 cars but i couldnt make the race due to the cambelt.
Oh well roll on next year and hope to see a few at the race meetings :thumb:
Good report, bad luck on the cambelt, these things happen.
Roll on 2011 !
Yes James roll on 2011, hopefully see you with the pug at a trackday
mk1nova_rich
03-12-10, 07:36 PM
just had a read through mate, loving the spec and stance of the car :d looks the business. Shame about the cambelt going but best of luck for next season mate :)
Yes James roll on 2011, hopefully see you with the pug at a trackday
For sure mate, you will probably kick my ass lol
Gutted for you mate, sounds like you were pulling well & putting the times in too aswell.
For sure mate, you will probably kick my ass lol
I might stand a chance in the corners but im not to confident on the straights, didnt realise you were at Brands the other day or i would have made myself known:thumb:
Gutted for you mate, sounds like you were pulling well & putting the times in too aswell.
Cheers Mike i am looking forward to next year got a bit of weight to come out of the car when i fit my split rims so should be a bit quicker still:)
I was looking for Pig and couldn't see him anywhere ! you would of thought he might of stood out a little lol
We'll catch up at some point, the car is a track toy, I'm not going to rip it to death until I'm 100% confident driving it !
First step will be to back the boost off a little !
First step will be to back the boost off a little !
Probably a good idea as i bet when that lets go you are not going to be going slow:d Dont know how you didnt see Pig,think he spent most of his time drooling over Ricky,s escort
Well now I've seen the pics that was exactly where he was !
Well its been a while but i have finally managed to get my split rims fitted,sorry about the size of the pics,im doing a trackday on the 23rd at coombe so i will be able to try them out ,ive changed the size of the rears so its going to be a bit of a test,Dar is booked on aswell ,be good to have another nova to play with if i can keep up
http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo114/toymex/013.jpg
http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo114/toymex/014-1.jpg
http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo114/toymex/015-1.jpg
http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo114/toymex/012.jpg
They look awesome what size are they?
Painted bumpers look lairy too :cool:
They look awesome what size are they?
Painted bumpers look lairy too :cool:
Cheers Iain ,they are 10x13 on the front and 91/2 on the back
scott.parker
12-09-11, 05:55 PM
Subscribed! I'll go back an look from the start when the missis is not home! lol
Holy cow that looks fricken awesome :cool:
Cheers chaps all i will say is it goes better than it looks:thumb:
scott.parker
13-09-11, 01:00 PM
Just had a look through it all, looks amazing, seams like you've had a bit of bad luck here an there, killing an engine in gravel, seen this happen 3 times to people on here now..
One thing i want to know, is that a ballast/handicap weight or something under the rear bumper/boot floor?
Scott
looking real good there jezz - i WILL get to see this on track at some stage!
(hmm i see an orange theme - want anything in HOLY-CRAP-ITS-BRIGHT orange flock lol?)
looking real good there jezz - i WILL get to see this on track at some stage!
(hmm i see an orange theme - want anything in HOLY-CRAP-ITS-BRIGHT orange flock lol?)
Cheers for that ,we will definatly catch up sometime Donny us on my list of tracks to do ,as for the bright orange flocking i might take you up on that:thumb:
Just had a look through it all, looks amazing, seams like you've had a bit of bad luck here an there, killing an engine in gravel, seen this happen 3 times to people on here now..
One thing i want to know, is that a ballast/handicap weight or something under the rear bumper/boot floor?
Scott
Hi Scott it is the fuel tank placed as low as i can get it ,i am well clear of having to carry ballast ,the 1600 weight limit is 650kgs with driver ,i am well over that:thumb:
calibra-keith
13-09-11, 07:00 PM
i wondered what happened to this, you've done what i was thinking on doing with the exhaust, and wheels set it off just nicely.
i wondered what happened to this, you've done what i was thinking on doing with the exhaust, and wheels set it off just nicely.
Cheers Keith ,the exhaust works well no need to try to get over the rear beam,but its a bit of a squeeze to get enough silencing in ,it is a bit loud for trackdays @102db but i have a little bodge for noise testing:eek:
gary_126
14-09-11, 01:51 AM
Any videos of it in action? looks cool!
No i haven,t got any video ,i am not allowed when i have raced it ,but i hope to take a bit next week when i am at Coombe
Well did a trackday at Coombe last Friday,video camera didnt like the vibration so no videos ,car was going well i didnt get to have a play on track with Dar as he was having issues,but did manage to have a little play with a 3 door cossie race car that had just been built,anyway here is the only pic i can find:thumb:
http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo114/toymex/novacoombe2392011.jpg
Holy moly that looks awesome, did you beat the Cossy then?
I was quicker through the bends but as soon as he got it straight his 500 odd brake could keep him infront,i missed 4th when chasing him down but managed to get behind him again then he pulled off but i think he was a bit suprised at how quick it was
Here is a link to a video taken from a sierra cosworth ,i pass him early on then i slow down for a lap as i was going to come in then the 3 door passes and i take chase,only a fleeting view but its the only footage i can find,the escort in the rear view mirror has an na yb cosworth on slide throttle injection and seq box:thumb:
http://api.viglink.com/api/click?format=go&key=d80a3adf02b15b2481af625295166384&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turbosport.co.uk%2Fshowthread .php%3F171699-Some-vids-from-trigs-trackday-on-friday&v=1&libid=1317405933761&out=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DjpL gOzfVmFc%26feature%3Dmfu_in_order%26list%3DUL&ref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turbosport.co.uk%2Fforumdispl ay.php%3F129-Movies&title=Some%20vids%20from%20trigs%20trackday%20on%2 0friday&txt=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DjpL gO..._order%26amp%3Blist%3DUL&jsonp=vglnk_jsonp_13174059629731
novaboyopr
30-09-11, 08:06 PM
is it just me who is hearing that cossie.
sounds like a fighter jet lol
5:00 sounds awesome when you overtake, even if the noise is brief lol
is it just me who is hearing that cossie.
sounds like a fighter jet lol
Probably has a chav/gay/screamer pipe.
Well the nova is all loaded up ready for the Retro cars magazine trackday at Brands tommorow,i have got a new camera (gopro hd) so hope to get some footage,i will try to avoid the gravel traps this time,if anyone is local pop in and say hello:thumb:
Awesome, those cameras look pretty swish so you should get some good footage
@ that cossy ! looks a bit of a handful.
Car sound well mate, hope tomorrow goes well.
Cheers James ,hope to see you at a trackday soon with the pug
It will happen, not till next year though but I am looking forward to it :) Will have to get you up here !
I hope to get to Donnington at some point but wont pass noise at bedford as its currently 102db,maybe see you at donny some time,you have got to get the pug to 1 of trigs days at coombe ,they are a nice relaxed day and a proper laugh
Donny would be good, Bedford is a no no for me too I'd of thought, going to try hard to get it under but its not exactly got the quietest exhaust note. Same goes with my mates red nova, we both enjoyed Bedford in the past but the 87.5 drive by is a killer !
Trigs trackdays do look good, Combe is a fair trek from here though !
autoworksnovasport
09-11-11, 08:40 PM
just read this start to finish very impresive
C612DNM
10-11-11, 08:00 AM
Good luck on the trackday - hope it goes to plan.
Vids needed of the track day :d
davidfox280585
10-11-11, 11:06 PM
love it looks well hard!!!!
Well we lived to fight another day ,the car was handling the worst it ever had in the morning more like a rear wheel drive than front ,wasnt sure wether it was because there was a lot of fluid spilt (they shut the track for a bit to clean it up ) or wether it was it was a bit cold and damp,i tried putting the thinner rears on thinking i wasnt getting any temps in them but that didnt help ,really was a handfull and didnt give any confidence to push on. At lunch we swapped tyres again and a quick spanner check i thought the rear antiroll bar may have come loose but it was all fine so decided to try again but only managed 1 lap it felt worse than ever came back in to have another look and found the problem:thumb: so out i went and had a proper play car was back to how it should be and enabled me to have a bit of confidencein it .i have a video that i will try to upload later that was in the morning before we fixed it.this is a little vid my brother took on his phone
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=179956232091233
What was the problem in the end then?
pyromaniac_yeti
11-11-11, 06:12 PM
Yeah, do tell?!
nothing exciting just a rear wheel bearing:d
Here is a pic from yesterday
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/383271_157986930965988_100002640455519_259612_1322 862691_n.jpg
Looks like you got 'papped' on track too! Looks awesome mate!
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa65/sethke/Classics%2011/RetroCarsTrackDay/Retrocarstrackday_058.jpg
Ahhh it looks so hardcore! I want to get out on track with it at some point!
Are you mega short or is the seat very low down? :p
Ahhh it looks so hardcore! I want to get out on track with it at some point!
Are you mega short or is the seat very low down? :p
Bit of both lolim not the tallest but seat is mounted as low as i could get it ,Next PNG trackday let me know and i will be there as long as the car is running:thumb:
vid from facebook won't work! :(
It works for me:confused:
vid from facebook won't work! :(
calibra-keith
12-11-11, 08:20 PM
Hi toymex do you have any more pictures of engine and some spec, and under car of how you've done the exhaust ?
I not much good at taking pics ,i havent got any of the exhaust ,allthough all it does is collect from the manifold into a silencer then a 90degree bend into another silencer straight out the side ,i used the original exhaust hangers and welded a bracket to the 90 degree bend for the rubbers,the engine is built by Andy Tedder (AT race engines) Steel rods ,omegas fully ported head AT spec cams Sbd retainers etc pace dry sump running 45,s on mbe:thumb:
http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo114/toymex/nova002.jpg
http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo114/toymex/nova003.jpg
I missed this some how. Fantastic car and build. From the vids it goes very well on track and you look like you can handle it very well. Good power from the 1.6 too.
peester
13-11-11, 04:25 PM
good to see more pics/info/it getting out and about.. been a bit misterious this car; did you say its getting a full feature in total vauxhall mag soon?
No mystery,s with the car mate just funds have stopped me racing it this year ,i hope if funds allow to do a full season next year and you will hear how i get on good or bad and hopefully some videos of some proper racing,i dont think its really feature car quality very much function over form
good to see more pics/info/it getting out and about.. been a bit misterious this car; did you say its getting a full feature in total vauxhall mag soon?
peester
13-11-11, 05:23 PM
well thats its appeal - theyve featured lots of cars over the years that are function over form - deffo makes a nice change from seeing breathed-on newer vauxhalls in the mag all the while anyway.
novarally
07-05-12, 10:02 AM
Hi Toymex.
Have you modified your rear wide arches to give you more tyre clearance?
I need more room at the back of my Nova to lower it more, but the tyres are touching the arches already.
I see you've extended the arch lip at the front, but it doesn't look like you have at the rear? I didn't want to have to do body modifications after getting mine all painted, but it looks like I'll have to.
On mine the bottom lip of the wide arch seems to curve back in toward the wheel right at the bottom, which is very annoying.
Thanks,
Colin
autoworksnovasport
07-05-12, 11:13 AM
was it a new kit you bought colin as most of these "the moulds" for them are getting old now and dont give a "good" product at the end like you say the lip comes back in ect somtimes better off trying to find a good condition old kit
Hi Colin
I havent modified the rear tbh all i have done is remove the rear arch lip the bit that on a normal rear1/4 would be rolled,i have also sort of squeezed the panel front to rear when i bolted it on (mine is bolted on )to give a little more clearance ,i must run the rear of mine a little higher than yours as i can fit 9 1/2 inch rears without a problem although the offset might be different . I am thinking of getting bigger rear arches made so i can run a wider track at the back
novarally
07-05-12, 01:06 PM
Hi Colin
I havent modified the rear tbh all i have done is remove the rear arch lip the bit that on a normal rear1/4 would be rolled,i have also sort of squeezed the panel front to rear when i bolted it on (mine is bolted on )to give a little more clearance ,i must run the rear of mine a little higher than yours as i can fit 9 1/2 inch rears without a problem although the offset might be different . I am thinking of getting bigger rear arches made so i can run a wider track at the back
Thanks.
I think part of the problem with my kit is that being made from very thin carbon fibre (at my request), it is really flexible, so may have distorted a little.
I'm running 7" rears (not sure of the offset TBH), but my rear beam is 30mm wider than standard due to the use of the KAD Mini hubs and stub axles.
I'm going to have to find something suitable to flare the arch out a bit more, something in carbon fibre, of course! Only problem is the shape of a Nova rear arch isn't the same as most other cars, so it might be tricky.
Thanks.
I think part of the problem with my kit is that being made from very thin carbon fibre (at my request), it is really flexible, so may have distorted a little.
I'm running 7" rears (not sure of the offset TBH), but my rear beam is 30mm wider than standard due to the use of the KAD Mini hubs and stub axles.
I'm going to have to find something suitable to flare the arch out a bit more, something in carbon fibre, of course! Only problem is the shape of a Nova rear arch isn't the same as most other cars, so it might be tricky.
Can i ask where you got your wings made in carbon and a rough cost pm me if you would rather .
Cheers
Jezz
novarally
07-05-12, 06:44 PM
Can i ask where you got your wings made in carbon and a rough cost pm me if you would rather .
Cheers
Jezz
Jezz.
I use Phil Baines in Darlington for all my carbon and fibreglass, he trades as PB Fibreglass. I've used him for many years and he's fantastic.
My whole wide arch kit (front and rear bumpers, pair of front wings and pair of rear quarters) in the thinnest possible carbon fibre was roughly £900, that was a couple of years ago now.
I've had my motley collection of fellow racers looking at my Nova this afternoon, and we've decided that it would be better to decrease the track width slightly by machining the hub mounting face down by 5mm on each side, which should give me the arch clearance that I need.
I'd sooner not modify the bodywork as it could end up looking horrible.
Jezz.
I use Phil Baines in Darlington for all my carbon and fibreglass, he trades as PB Fibreglass. I've used him for many years and he's fantastic.
My whole wide arch kit (front and rear bumpers, pair of front wings and pair of rear quarters) in the thinnest possible carbon fibre was roughly £900, that was a couple of years ago now.
I've had my motley collection of fellow racers looking at my Nova this afternoon, and we've decided that it would be better to decrease the track width slightly by machining the hub mounting face down by 5mm on each side, which should give me the arch clearance that I need.
I'd sooner not modify the bodywork as it could end up looking horrible.
Thanks for that Colin ,i dont blame you on the machining of the hub after making the car look so good it would be a real shame to start chopping it about ,i dont see 5mm off the hubs being to much of a problem if you have allready made it 30mm wider
6pot nova
08-05-12, 05:43 PM
good job nice work
Well i havent raced the car in a while so have been playing with the front bumper making a splitter that will go back past the bottom pulley giving it some protection from fravel if i happen to visit a gravel trap ,i have also bought a floor mounted pedal box that i will fit over the winter
http://media2.turbosport.co.uk/2011/5/2012080620031509092014.JPG
http://media2.turbosport.co.uk/2011/5/2012080620036188074015.JPG
When did you go mk2 front end? Fibreglass one piece? That splitter looks mental, awesome, whats it made of?
Love that front. Very hard core looking.
When did you go mk2 front end? Fibreglass one piece? That splitter looks mental, awesome, whats it made of?
I recently bought another complete wide arch kit so used the bumper ,its only ply for the splitter a bit heavy but if it helps i might look to get something a bit more exotic ,although i read it needs to be 1/2 inch thick so a carbon sheet wont work
Love that front. Very hard core looking.
Cheers Ben ,im hoping that the aero side of it works ,i will have to wait untill i race next at Brands to tell
novarally
06-08-12, 09:55 PM
Cheers Ben ,im hoping that the aero side of it works ,i will have to wait untill i race next at Brands to tell
As part of the major repair work needed to my Nova, I'm having my friend Simon McBeath (aerodynamicist) look at the whole car, and design an aero package for me, so there may be some information to share.......
I'm far from an expert, but certainly all the holes in the front end will not be helping things one bit!
Looking good, I must get along to a race meet and see it in action !
well as the season has finished i thought i would strip the car down and revise a few things ,like seating and steering position .I have also bought throttle bodies so i have got to revise the fuel tank /pump setup so thought it would be easier to start with a blank canvas
http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo114/toymex/novaevo22012007_zps79aa4b3d.jpg
mount for pedal box
http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo114/toymex/novaevo22012006_zpsec5e6c5d.jpg
Seam welding ,my welding is not the best but is getting better with practice
http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo114/toymex/novaevo22012005_zps7f480388.jpg
BRoadGhost
31-12-12, 07:23 PM
Are you welding directly above you there then? While everything's accessible you could weld tube between the two beam mounts; I made a frame up that doubles up as support for the exhaust back box and rear diffuser. Pedal box should be exciting, are you already hydraulic clutching?
You can have as many holes in a front end as you like; what matters is where that air then goes.
tom reid
31-12-12, 07:24 PM
I've heard an ugly rumour that your completely stripping the car?
Have a go at welding the front of the cage in, well worth it imho.
peester
31-12-12, 07:30 PM
throttle bodies; you ran carbs until now then?
Are you welding directly above you there then? While everything's accessible you could weld tube between the two beam mounts; I made a frame up that doubles up as support for the exhaust back box and rear diffuser. Pedal box should be exciting, are you already hydraulic clutching?
You can have as many holes in a front end as you like; what matters is where that air then goes.
Car is on a spit Simon :thumb:
I've heard an ugly rumour that your completely stripping the car?
Have a go at welding the front of the cage in, well worth it imho.
Hi Tom the front cage is already welded to the turrets ,i am doing lots of strenghtening of other bits ,on Andys advice .i hope to be bringing it up north soon mate i hope to take it to Preston to get the shell dipped
Happy New Year by the way
throttle bodies; you ran carbs until now then?
Yes it has allways been on carbs and mapped ignition ,i am only changing as i can alter trumpet lengths on throttle bodies to see if if it helps with torque and i couldnt with the carbs as they would hit the bulkhead
peester
31-12-12, 07:44 PM
so the manifold for carbs is 90 deg. from the head, where as for itb's itll be around 45 deg; more space.
Yes inlet tract length does play a part with low down torque, amongst other ways - injector choice too plays a part, spray patterns as well as the rate.. you might find a fair jump in torque/power from carbs with itbs..
what management do you run now?
so the manifold for carbs is 90 deg. from the head, where as for itb's itll be around 45 deg; more space.
Yes inlet tract length does play a part with low down torque, amongst other ways - injector choice too plays a part, spray patterns as well as the rate.. you might find a fair jump in torque/power from carbs with itbs..
what management do you run now?
I am not expecting much of an increase tbh but anything is a bonus plus the R/R operator says it helps proplong engine life as you are never bore washing with fuel.
It is currently on MBE mapped by Steve Broughton
I'd be happy with that welding. Si's idea of a brace between the beam mounts sounds good.
peester
31-12-12, 07:54 PM
hey im quietly confident for you lol.. not the red ignition-only MBE system? else you need new ecu loom etc..
hey im quietly confident for you lol.. not the red ignition-only MBE system? else you need new ecu loom etc..
I have bought a complete engine with the sbd throttle body kit so has everything required ,but no i have an Mbe ecu off of a clio cup car that will support fuel inj if required
I'd be happy with that welding. Si's idea of a brace between the beam mounts sounds good.
Cheers Ben ,its getting better tbh but i am a bit of a tart and its not BTCC standardlol
I understand that... But bet you arnt using a £KKKK welder...
I understand that... But bet you arnt using a £KKKK welder...
No you are right there clarke hobby mig :(
peester
31-12-12, 08:31 PM
I have bought a complete engine with the sbd throttle body kit so has everything required ,but no i have an Mbe ecu off of a clio cup car that will support fuel inj if required
ah then steve will get it singing for sure. Good stuff.
ah then steve will get it singing for sure. Good stuff.
Steve wont be mapping it ,i use HT racing at Brands Hatch he is a genius with set up and very fairly priced ,you dont see big numbers on his rollers but out on circuit tells you all you need to know :thumb:
tom reid
01-01-13, 09:17 AM
Happy new year to you too mate.
Preston?, there's nowhere closer to you?
Happy new year to you too mate.
Preston?, there's nowhere closer to you?
Hi Tom ,it will be cheaper to take it to Preston they use heat to remove paint ,then dip it and put in primer for less than i have been quoted down here just to soda blast it .
Its the southern taxlol
zeifer33
01-01-13, 03:19 PM
Really nice car:thumb:
No you are right there clarke hobby mig :(
Me too, but that's still nice welding dude.
BRoadGhost
01-01-13, 11:23 PM
Yeah they look fine and you'll notice the difference straight away in how the front feels when pushing :)
Me too, but that's still nice welding dude.
Cheers Ben
Yeah they look fine and you'll notice the difference straight away in how the front feels when pushing :)
The front end has always been seam welded and strenghtening plates so other than a few tweaks the front will be the same
few pics of progress
http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo114/toymex/novaevo2003_zpscb85e022.jpg
http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo114/toymex/novaevo2001_zps6fb24d51.jpg
http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo114/toymex/novaevo2008_zpsf9f9c39a.jpg
http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo114/toymex/novaevo2006_zps7c1e9e89.jpg
http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo114/toymex/novaevo2005_zps8d13c4b2.jpg
http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo114/toymex/novaevo2002_zps91762986.jpg
Didn't realise you were going to do all this, looks sweet. Is that a brace bar to the bulkhead/steering rack from the triangulation just to reduce flex?
Is there going to be a flat section between the floorpan and the fuel tank area to stop air going up between the two?
Didn't realise you were going to do all this, looks sweet. Is that a brace bar to the bulkhead/steering rack from the triangulation just to reduce flex?
Is there going to be a flat section between the floorpan and the fuel tank area to stop air going up between the two?
Yes bar is to stiffen bulkhead and i have a piece of ally to close the tank well ,it is removable to gain acess to pum and swirl pot that i am having put on tank
BRoadGhost
03-02-13, 06:43 PM
Those seat mounts look proper; mine seem a million miles in the air by comparison. Getting the seat decked will help you come race time :)
Love the little gusset for the N/s gearbox mount too; I might have to pinch that idea!
What I mean by saying stitch welding the rear chassis legs you'll notice in the front when pushing, is because when you do something to the back like that, you notice the change in how the front feels. You're really fortunate to have the thing on a spit; that little bar bracing the back of the rack should really be noticeable too making it feel way more solid. I've a feeling you won't be far off bending TCAs with those slicks now :o
Those seat mounts look proper; mine seem a million miles in the air by comparison. Getting the seat decked will help you come race time :)
Love the little gusset for the N/s gearbox mount too; I might have to pinch that idea!
What I mean by saying stitch welding the rear chassis legs you'll notice in the front when pushing, is because when you do something to the back like that, you notice the change in how the front feels. You're really fortunate to have the thing on a spit; that little bar bracing the back of the rack should really be noticeable too making it feel way more solid. I've a feeling you won't be far off bending TCAs with those slicks now :o
I wont be bending tca,s Simon they are over engineered tubular ones so very strong ,the spit is a life saver if you want to borrow it when i have finished you are more than welcome
tom reid
04-02-13, 03:54 PM
Excellent work, you're getting on with it mate.
Love the tank in the box in the boot floor, really like your front cross member too, why have you moved it forwards? Loving the progress.
Love the tank in the box in the boot floor, really like your front cross member too, why have you moved it forwards? Loving the progress.
Hi benn the crossmember is moved forward just to provide more room between the rad and exhaust manifold ,in case i want to do some aero mods in the future
Excellent work, you're getting on with it mate.
Cheers mate
All under Andys supervision ,hopefully make it a bit quicker
Hi benn the crossmember is moved forward just to provide more room between the rad and exhaust manifold ,in case i want to do some aero mods in the future
Ah good thinking in advance. Fantastic build.
A few pics of progress ,nearly ready for colour
http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo114/toymex/novaevo2001_zpsa211a0d1.jpg
http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo114/toymex/novaevo2004_zps8a5cba72.jpg
http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo114/toymex/novaevo2002_zpsa4960dd1.jpg
http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo114/toymex/novaevo2003_zps5f39f401.jpg
calibra-keith
03-03-13, 02:43 PM
Hopefully mine will look like that soon
Really like the extra bracing you added, rear beam mounts is a good one.
http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo114/toymex/novaevo2006_zps7c1e9e89.jpg
What's the cut out in the chassis leg for? (the curved one..)
Hi Ben the cut out is for access to the dry sump pump ,i prime the oil system before i start the car so it always has oil pressure ,i neeed to ask a bit of advice from you regarding paintwork ,is it allright to pm you later this evening with a few questions ?
Hi,
Ah i see, any more pics of it? And yeah pm any questions you have. Always happy to help.
Hi,
Ah i see, any more pics of it? And yeah pm any questions you have. Always happy to help.
i dont think i have anymore pics of it tbh pm,d you
cheers
jezz
Did you just weld in a shaped bit of metal? I was just worried about strength.
Yes i just used a large hole saw to cut the innerwing and formed a bit if plate to the rightish shape then welded it in ,it has probably strenghtened that area a bit tbh .have you got clearance issues
Looking good as always!
Cheers Jake
I keep checking to see if you've fitted the tbs yet... Looking forward to seeing the comparative figures etc!Looks ace too!
Yes i just used a large hole saw to cut the innerwing and formed a bit if plate to the rightish shape then welded it in ,it has probably strenghtened that area a bit tbh .have you got clearance issues
Ok, that's kinda how i thought of doing it.. And yea i want to run the inlet pipping under there, to have the filter out of the way...
I keep checking to see if you've fitted the tbs yet... Looking forward to seeing the comparative figures etc!Looks ace too!
Thats a while off yet ,but figures will be interesting when i get it on the rollers
Managed to get a bit of time on the nova this weekend ,so threw a bit of paint at the underside and engine bay ,not a perfect job but its a race car at the end of the day and i havent the budget to get it proffesionally done
http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo114/toymex/novapaint001_zps64bf8988.jpg
http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo114/toymex/novapaint004_zps58ab6b6c.jpg
http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo114/toymex/novapaint003_zps010a1472.jpg
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Looking great dude, paint looks good too. Surprised you didn't plate the front floor chassis leg outer bits (where they bend when they are jacked up)
Must of missed the top mount work, they look awesome.
Cheers Ben i did think about plating the chassis bits but decided not to ,i am not too worried what they look like i did think of sill stand points aswell but cba ,the top mounts were done when the car was first built but tbh we dont use the adjustment for camber ,that is all done on the lower arm ,but if we ever decide to go wide track then they will be usefull,thanks for the advice on the paint, it went a lot better than i was expecting and looks half reasonable
Be interested to see how you're adjusting camber on the lower arm, there isn't really any 'good' way of doing it on a Mac Strut without having different sets of coilovers made up lol
I was probably favouring the top mount method which is why I'm intrigued :)
BRoadGhost
11-03-13, 10:53 PM
Ooo a gusseted bar on the rear chassis legs; you'll notice that :)
thanks for the advice on the paint, it went a lot better than i was expecting and looks half reasonable
Any time. It's why i'm here. Glad it went ok.
Be interested to see how you're adjusting camber on the lower arm, there isn't really any 'good' way of doing it on a Mac Strut without having different sets of coilovers made up lol
I was probably favouring the top mount method which is why I'm intrigued :)
I am no expert at setting the car up ,but the chap who sets it up found the adjustable bottom arms better for adjusting the camber ,the top mounts were done in case we go wide track so it has lots of adjustment just to get it spot on
Ooo a gusseted bar on the rear chassis legs; you'll notice that :)
I am looking forward to driving it to see what difference the stiffer shell makes ,its going to be interesting
Any time. It's why i'm here. Glad it went ok.
The advice was spot on Ben ,i m looking forward to painting the outside where its not so fiddly to see what sort of finish i can get ,i also bought a Devibiss FLG gun which i think helped as its much better than my old guns
I am no expert at setting the car up ,but the chap who sets it up found the adjustable bottom arms better for adjusting the camber ,the top mounts were done in case we go wide track so it has lots of adjustment just to get it spot on
So how exactly is it done? Just wind a rosejoint out?
So how exactly is it done? Just wind a rosejoint out?
It has rose joints so iirc the joint was adjusted but it was done about 3 years ago so cant remember the exact process to get all the readings right ,the top mounts were adjusted at the same time so i guess a combination of both
The advice was spot on Ben ,i m looking forward to painting the outside where its not so fiddly to see what sort of finish i can get ,i also bought a Devibiss FLG gun which i think helped as its much better than my old guns
Glad i could help, love what your doing so.
The outside will be much easier as you can just sweap all the way along... A good gun makes life much much easier too. Good tools and all that...
jimbob-mcgrew
14-03-13, 06:21 PM
top build this mate, done a great job.
i love seing projects like this, that you can see the car evolve for its needs.
good luck with the summer re-launch too.
itll be faster this time by the looks of it. you'll be fighting less gravity with the changes youve made :thumb:
boffer8
16-03-13, 12:15 PM
What did you make the mounting plate out of? (thickness wise and what have you welded underneath it as i can see the penetration coming through?)
mount for pedal box
http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo114/toymex/novaevo22012006_zpsec5e6c5d.jpg
What did you make the mounting plate out of? (thickness wise and what have you welded underneath it as i can see the penetration coming through?)
mount for pedal box
http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo114/toymex/novaevo22012006_zpsec5e6c5d.jpg
The plate was made by a chap i know JB Fabrications ,it is welded directly to the floor the weld marks i think you mean are for the channels that hold the captive nuts so the box can be moved to suit driver preference ,i think it is 2mm HTH
Jezz
I have been working on the nova as and when i get a bit of time and its not freezing outside ,most of the interior is painted but i have got to do a few bits again as i got a bit greedy and laid the clear on a bit heavy and got a few runs ,i am pissed off with painting so decided to bolt a few bits back on ,i am going to have to do all the brake lines again and the gear linkage and steering column is going to take some work but its going in the right direction
http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo114/toymex/novaevo2004_zps597f7b22.jpg
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masseyk@deeside.ac.uk
01-04-13, 06:29 PM
That gearstick set up looks ace..
Shifter setup looks neat, will that be the final position?
Shifter setup looks neat, will that be the final position?
Give or take a few mm ,it is quite fiddly to set up so it is on slotted mounts to help
Love this car it's fapping awesome
Southie
01-04-13, 10:41 PM
As above, it's a cracking build :cool:
Nice inside colour, looks good too. A run or too wont matter.
Love the pedal set up, rest is very cool. Shirter is very trick, direct to turret yes? Does that mean the selection is reversed?
Loving this rebuild!
Gear shift is direct to turret ,the selection is the same as standard H pattern ,i have used the sme one for a while now it takes a bit of setting up but is very precise when correct :thumb:
Nice inside colour, looks good too. A run or too wont matter.
Love the pedal set up, rest is very cool. Shirter is very trick, direct to turret yes? Does that mean the selection is reversed?
Loving this rebuild!
Ah nice, yeah i bet its mm right when all on.
looking really good mate, is that a rather tasty alloy steering column mount i spy? like the plate for the gearshifter rod bearing too:thumb:
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